But it's "Free!!!" according to the socialist. Its like people don't realize what taxes is. Once they start working "real jobs" and paying "real bills and taxes," they'll hopefully learn their lesson. If not, then they're too dumb to understand that nothing is "Free." Everything has a price.
"We should tax the wealthiest people." When they say this, they do realise that people are wealthy because of capitalism, right? So in their idea of a socialist country, capitalism plays a huge role.
yet to what point is it too much? You have billionaires that don't even want to pay minimum wage/scam their way as Wells Fargo did. please, stop advocating about the rich when they literally dgaf about you.
@@gp7493 -it is the rich that have companies/businesses that provide jobs for non rich people. I'm going to take a wild guess that you are for socialism. Socialism is basically legalized theft. It sucks.
@@gp7493 -It would be no surprise if you are the bumbling twit at the end of the video. Just so you know, it did not fail. Those who oppose capitalism & free democracy will illogically claim otherwise.
It's NOT their fault. They have been taught over the years they are smart and should make their own decisions. They have virtually no real world experience. But WE as parents have failed them, because we have coddled them, and protected them from the big bad world so much that they now believe everything is unicorns and sparkles.
What happens when a college student decides 3/4 through school, they want to change careers ? What if they go to school , graduates after spending 60k of taxpayers money; then decides to not use their degree ? What about the 10’s of thousands of students that drop out because they can’t handle the work ? As a taxpayer, I’m not willing to pay for other people’s failures.
There would have to be a contingency plan for the government. If this were to be implemented, they would have to make strict "payback" rules that would make those that don't succeed or choose to be wishy washy pay for it.
But if it's free more people get the chance of graduating and becoming productive citizens, thus paying more in taxes over their life than what they took as students. If someone can succeed in college now, they will also succeed if it's free. If you add to that the number of people that could succeed, but lack the resources, it's obvious that free public colleges could only increase the number of college graduates. There will he more social mobility and the middle class would grow, which is good for everyone. In short, you're just selfish
@@koalanefelibato4365 I think you are right. It's a matter of investing in our future. Even if it did devalue a degree, a country powered by slightly less than college educated students is better than a country of highschool student, and a handful of college educated students. I think trade schools should be part of the equation too.
@@vyper900 Yup, but I also don't think that college degrees would lose value. As automation rises, ownership of a college degree will only become more necessary in order to find a job. So it doesn't just increase social mobility; free public education could also prevent an employment crisis.
I don't think it is ignorance so much as it is the feeling of entitlement. These students just willingly ape the Democrat philosophy of taxing the wealthy but fail to realize that "free" education will necessitate tax increases on all tax paying citizens.
The last guy interviewed is the only one who could think with his head rather than his heart. Edit: I’m not referring to the chick at the end who has zero clue what she’s saying at all btw.
vyper900 perhaps, but I think that we were shown that a lot of people don’t know what they’re talking about on this stuff, they only grasp the surface emotions, not delve deep into the facts. That’s the problem here :)
@@jalakor I think you are absolutely correct, but that can be said about both sides of and argument of political matters. I don't know this as fact, but I'm willing to bet that they only showed the interviews that supported their claim.
vyper900 that’s a fair point. I don’t know what the criteria for their interviews are for sure. You see, I identify as moderate, and that bias is one reason why I’m not conservative, just a Moderate with conservative values :)
Mr. Goldfish and you misunderstood my comment, some big name schools charge as much as 10k per quarter! They even trying to increase that to 12k! That’s too much, lowering that to 7-9k at least would help. And by faculty members testimony they said tuition money is only 10% of revenue generated! Bottom line you don’t know shit Jon snow!
@@SpJrD No you misspelled "college" as "collage" (a form of art) and he was taking a jab at that. I agree with your argument (although I think it should be nationalised and subsidised).
My wife is graduating from a state university in 2 weeks. She’s leaving with a bachelors in accounting, and a business degree. ( 2 degrees because most of the classes she took can be used interchangeably between programs ). Our total bill for her education, right around 8k . We’re going to stay in our apartment and pay this bill off in a year.
She must have had a ton of scholarships and grants or had a very good paying job to pay off classes at the beginning of each semester because thats amazing to only have 8k in debt. I have so much, im going to basically never retire
Congratulations! It is rare these days that young people have good plan about their future and know what they need to do and understand their responsibility. Thumbs up for you and your wife!
@@GodsAutobiography I live in Canada and pay 42% taxes off my earning to pay for all the "free stuff". Not to mention the two taxes I pay whenever I purchase items. I wonder if I would have any money left if I started paying for free colleges. Your argument is absolutely retarded. Lets see how willing you are when over half your pay goes to other peoples "free stuff".
@ProgramKing a social ideology that the means of production, distribution, and exchange is owned by the community or everyone. Very interchangeable with Communism.
@@Everythingisgoingtobealright Ya, that doesn't bother me either, in just don't think it sounds dick ish, then again, I'd be hard pressed to hear something that would bother me. I do a lot of shoulder shrugging. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If you ask a person in college if they want it to be free,they are obviously going to say yes.Thats like asking people in a restaurant if they want free food lmao.
Everything should be free, duh! Who would pay for everything...... duh?! These kids should all be shipped of to Venezuela to see how great and awesome socialism really is!
Or, you know, Europe. In Germany, you pay a Semesterbeitrag or "semester contribution" (for administration fees, a ticket for public transportation etc.) and it's 400€ tops (mostly much lower) each semester. Students loans or something like that are just not a thing here. No bank would give a youngster fresh out of secondary school a loan of tens of thousands of euros, that would be immoral.
@Christopher Yeah, I know that. Personally I am not liberal, but conservative. But what comes to economics I must say that I believe in nordic system. It works in Finland pretty well. They are doing just very well, maybe best in the world.
The Venezuelan people with degrees for free education are now in Colombia begging for work and money in the streets. Just come and check it out by yourselves. I'm living in Colombia, obviously.
How did NON THINKERS qualify for college? My son didn't go to college and makes a cool million plus annually through his hard work and entrepreneurial skills.
You shouldn't. If you work hard, chances are you don't pay much in tax. The ones who should be paying by far the most tax (but aren't) are the rich who generally don't work for their wealth.
@@mr.goldfish1530 Define "work" and why the rich didn't do it. Not all work is created equal. Jeff Bezos, for example, oversees a Multi-Billion Dollar Company that has improved the lives of many be allowing them to buy cheaper products. Thus Bezos gets how much the company pays him for bringing in that money, plus his stocks. The Cleaning Crew at my office may work 12 hours days, yet they do not create billions of dollars of Wealth Like MR. Bezos. And If you point to inheritance, than let me remind you that 80% of family fortunes are gone within 3 generations. And if you still say ask why the children of someone Like Sam Walton (the founder of Walmart) should get rich, than I ask you they same thing about Welfare recipients. They didn't work for Mr. Walton's wealth anymore than his children did. The only difference is that Walton Choose to give his money to his children. If he had chosen to give it all to pore people, than that would have been great as well. Rich people work harder for their Wealth than anyone
@@charlesevanshughes3638 Not all work is created equal, but wages do not reflect that. As the most economically literate, the financial sector tends to pay the largest salaries, as you'd expect. This does not mean doctors and engineers add less value for individuals or society, just that they don't receive the same pay. Also consider that random economic transactions over time tend to accumulate in the hands of the few (this is what the game Monopoly was created to show). Progressive tax systems are a necessary part of keeping a stable system. Without this system, it would have been impossible for individuals to accrue even 10% of this wealth.
@@danwbeeston6146 Of course wages reflect how valuable work is. A doctor's work is more valuable than a janitor, and thus is paid more. If Everyone was a doctor and few people were willing to be janitors, than janitors would be worth more and be paid more. A CEO who runs a multi-billion dollar company creates more value than a doctor, and thus is paid more. You might not like that, but it is true. Progressive tax systems are morally corrupt, as they do not treat people equally. Could you imagine a system where the government takes money from you if you had x skin color? Everyone should be taxed at the same, preferably low, rate.
@@charlesevanshughes3638 I'm not disputing that CEO's add more value. However progressive taxation systems are fair as they attempt to apply a flat tax rate to disposable income. If I earn 20k a year yet my needs (food, gas, board) comes to 18k a year, then a 10% tax of my take home pay, 2k, leaves me with nothing to spare. If I earn 50k a year however, and I live a slightly more lavish lifestyle and a spend 25k on needs and still pay a 10% tax of 5k a year, I still have 20k in disposable income. This means the government only took 20% of my disposable income. High levels of wealth also lower the propensity to spend and reduce the monetary velocity and lower growth. As people on lower income spend a much higher proportion of their income, when the government gives out benefits to an area, it is essentially increasing sales for basic industries in the area. Think of it as a subsidy for inferior goods but the firms still have to behave efficiently
"Are you for free college for all conservative Christian colleges?" I'd like to see the question phrased like that. That might be too much for the average liberal student.
@@skitboyz7418 sweet with us in the royal army we only get that if we served as soldiers for a year and then go to the officier school while at the same time studieng
@@markkuiper7380 it's similar here. You only get it after one year in service. You don't have to be an officer to go to college, but you can go to college to become an officer
Democrats: “Let’s do it! It’s in our budget...” Republicans: “Don’t do it because we can’t fit it in the budget!” Greens: “The only thing we budget is time!” Libertarians: “Wait... you guys got a budget?!”
Bring back Vocational High Schools. Plumbers, electricians, mechanics, truck drivers, carpenters, masons, mill workers all make good money without college.These trades are still needed in America.
When these Stu-Dents demand "Free Education", ask them "do you "feel" that wealthy people, such as celebrities, late night talk show hosts, network news anchors, and tenured professors, should have to fund Free Education for All?". Stand back and watch them melt.
I live in Europe and growing up, I always thought it's a dream to live in the us. But the older I get the more I realize what I actually have in my country... I couldn't imagine living without these things like free education or free healthcare. It's just good to know that no matter in what position you are, even at your lowest point in your life, you will never die because you can't afford food or health care...
TRUE, it just blows my mind these things are even up to debate in the US, I always thought it was the same everywhere, you know free healthcare and Education. The more I learn about the US the more it looks like a dystopian country to me.
My father used to say it's good to want when I said I wanted something... He would then be silent and ignore me. The lesson was if you want something then you need to go get it for yourself.
This was great because will went more in detail with educating these uninformed people...would like to see more of really making them think - well done!!!!!!! love prageru
Demand is why education is so expensive. The government has certainly increased the demand by subsidizing and otherwise interfering with the market but mostly that have increased the demand for education by allowing mass immigration to take place. Not only do immigrants demand educations but they influx in the labor force has stifled wages for average folks who now look to furthering their educations to get an edge economically.
Arguing against making school more affordable is ridiculous... There's MULTIPLE countries that even PAY students to study. YES the garbage men over there pay for the schools, yet they have better living conditions than in the US. I wonder why...
@@forteastro6996 naw that's not really how it's gonna work anymore in the automation age we're experiencing. College is becoming a basic requirement if you want to be middle class. Republicans just underplay it's necessity to keep their anti-free college argument alive.
@@nicolasoke7421 "...automation age..."? Look around. How much is automated? This is still an information tech age, where the average company requires higher educations at higher levels of management. But this is not where most of the jobs are at. Most of the jobs are in the trades dealing with the automotive, engineering, infrastructure sectors, etcetera. These jobs are plentiful, but youngsters are being told they aren't worth the trouble, that it is more beneficial to have a college or university degree to get a higher paying job. What they aren't being told is that those jobs are dwindling and difficult to find and the competition for them is staggering. Kids are coming home from tertiary school with no prospects and end up working a mcjob. The trades are where the jobs are now, and it's possible to become upper middle class in them within a decade.
It's been in place for years. And the effects as you can expect are quite dreadful : - Standards in terms of admission greatly lowered - Decrease of overall quality of education and teaching (which means the average level is lowered too) - Degrees not worth a dime if you don't do a master's degree And it's just a vicious circle that's going to continue until people realize that they screwed up... (let's not talk about SJWs who are invading French universities, it'll depress me ^^')
In fact as a french student I have to say that universities are not that good but it's because we have an other system called "great school" that we can do after school if we have the level to attend it and it is very selective, but as the best students are doing this, the other part of people wanting a degree are just worst than in other countries because the best students are not going to university
For one, as more people become accredited, the value of that accreditation tends to go down. Second, and connected to the first, the curriculum tends to be changed to fit the capabilities of the least among the students further lowering the value. And then there's the fact that just because you want to have a certain profession, it doesn't mean positions are available. And, again, if there is one job opening but a thousand candidates, the business can low-ball on salary knowing at least one of those thousand will accept less than the going rate just to have a job. For that matter, they might fire current employees to replace them with others who'll accept half as much. Congratulations, you just shifted the earnings of everyone down...which defeats the purpose of seeking higher education in an attempt to increase your earning potential. These kids aren't intelligent enough to enter higher education yet.
Hey, why not free tuition? Public schools are 'free'; lunches given out there are 'free'. Why not everything for free?? Thank goodness there are no taxes on the school buildings, the faculty work for free, the buses run for free, and the administration also contribute their time. Ah, free stuff...you gotta love it...
Yep, free school!!! Professors and administrators work for free, students build and maintain all of the buildings, and 90% of all athletics revenues go to pay for buildings and grounds. Then we could make it frraaaeeee (vocal fry added).
I love it when a U makes fun of college students. Such a clear indication of what they want: embarrass them and use it to spread cheap easily debunkable propaganda.
Also most European think it should be free. Free education, so the garbage man's kids can have also free education and hence break the cycle of poverty. Same rights of education, despite of their financial means. Connect the college entry to the mental ability of the people and not to the financial ability of their parents. I am from Switzerland!
Don't hate me for asking, I'm just trying to learn. Isn't it fair that the taxpayers pay for college? These kids are our future and if they have a higher education and get jobs where they make a lot of money they will be taxpayers of a higher class and bring the government more money which they can invest in stuff like healthcare, education, the military etc. Obviously you'd need a government you can trust right but in theory it makes sense to me but maybe someone can change my mind.
Jan Frank Peter Koen of honestly believe having a degree will guarantee you getting a job once you graduate then you haven’t been out in the real world
Yes, the trash man should pay for my education. Without me, he wouldn’t have a job. When will people realize that an educated society benefits them. If the trash guy didn’t pay for my education, then we’d all be picking up each other’s trash. No offense to anyone in the trash industry, their work is essential to our society.
Or France. Sorry, I'm French, like the guy in the video, and I don't see why we shouldn't make it at least much more affordable to normal folks. Isn't education paramount ? Are you people against the idea of tax ?
@@mr.goldfish1530 Oh the lies you have been told. America has the best treatments for 49 of the 57 main types of cancer. We have 3 times as many MRI machines as Canada. We have Twice as much Disposable income. We have the longest lifespan when you account for Car deaths and fat people who choose to be that way. We have the lowest infant mortality rate in the world, and the second lowest Maternal Deaths during Child berth. We are the only country to enjoy freedom of speech enshrined in our founding documents, and the only one to Grant citizens the constitutional (or equivalent) right to self protection via use of a firearm. The Average American-owned car is 2007, while the Average Sweedish-owned car is 1999. The worst thing about us is that Planned Parenthood legally murders 100 of thousands of children every year, and we are looking to change that.
@@charlesevanshughes3638 First, the US may have good treatments but what's the point in having good treatments if it'll cost thousands of dollars for the individual? I'm gonna pretend you actually care for a second and say that the poor should not be excluded from life saving treatments just to save a few dollars in the pockets of most people. Also, you shouldn't use average wage or GDP/capita to determine wages. To effectively do the first, you would have to exclude the rich and the second is only relevant in a purely communist society. What you should use is median wage and considering the US poverty rate, I doubts that's very good.
It's amazing how people who know nothing think they are entitled to everything. Academics are out of control on cost. I don't think after working full time through my entire college life and going to local schools because that was what I could afford that I should now be paying for someone to go to the school of their choice! Everyone is entitled. Entitled to an opportunity nothing more. If someone is offered a scholarship because of academic excellence, they have earned something in a different way and there are usually some strings attached to some of those.
Poor people shouldn't have to go tens of thousands of dollars into debt while the rich, who generally don't work for their wealth, don't. Equal opportunities is self-explanatory. Rich people shouldn't have more opportunities than poor people but they do and this is one way in which this can be seen.
I'm from an EU country and college here is very affordable but only if you are going to a public college, not a private one. I think that's the big mistake Americans make when they say it's free in Europe, they assume private colleges are free too.
In my country, the state colleges are for free, but you HAVE TO pass the entrance exam. If you don’t get a certain score, you won’t be accepted. And also the capacity is limited, so only the best get in. When I tried to apply for an American college, they didn’t care about any entrance knowledge and just money. Basically if your parents are rich you get in.
@@The-Musical-Lover money is everything here, unfortunately. I come from a poor family and my step-dad is a farmer. The state hardly helped me out at all because my step-dad owns a lot of land. But they don't take into account the fact that owning land that's been in the family for a long time doesn't equate to being wealthy...
Had this argument with a friend not too long ago. He was on the side that college should be free for everyone/all government funded. I tried to explain a college degree would... A) hold less value B) the money has to come from somewhere so if the government is paying for it they're going to cut cost wherever they can (never upgrade the computer lab, cut labor that keeps the campus up ect.) C) class attendance would go down cause a lot of folks (especially fresh out of HS kids) wouldn't take it serious. Do I think it's over the top expensive as it stands? Absolutely! Should it be free? Heck no! Need to find a balance in the middle.
I'm from the Netherlands, here the collegesbare significantly cheaper (somewhere between 1040 to 3000 euroes a year which would be around 1500 to 4000 dollars a year) and you right about the class attendance especially in the first year a lot of people(kids of we're being honest) who are fresh out high school don't take it serious and almost 20% of the people who attent go and change to a different major or drop out of school in the first two months. Also a side effect is that school take in more students than they have to/than there are job opportunity for sometimes just for the money.
Some schools provide free education in other countries and even pays you monthly like Australia or If you have good grades and graduate you get money or incentives. It should be that way
Not really and not everybody would have a degree anyway. It won't lose its purpose because it is to show that you have a qualification. Not everyone wants every qualification. If you want to be a farmer why would you want a degree in astrophysics? That's hardly useful for a farmer and most people know that. Including farmers.
@@mr.goldfish1530 So you wouldn't let everyone have "free College"? And most people don't want a degree in Astrophysics, they want a degree in general. If they aren't qualified, than they will just flunk out after a few semesters, not have to pay any money for wasted time
@@charlesevanshughes3638 The inqualified will flunk out regardless. With subsidised (not free) tertiary education, the poor will still be able to move on with their lives without the burden of still thousands of dollars in debt.
@@mr.goldfish1530 As We have been having these conversations in multiple threads, I propose an almost No-cost solution to the college debt crisis we both should agree with: Some organization, possibly Non-profit, recruits a few professors in a diverse group of fields. The lectures of those Professors would be captured and put on a site for anyone to view and get the education. After watching a semestor's worth of material, they could travel to the a designated college for a few days to take finals. People could get their degrees at minimal cost while working a job. Sure, they would not be able to live the "dorm life", but anyone who goes to college with the sole intention of doing that doesn't belong in college at all.
@@charlesevanshughes3638 That has consiserable drawbacks. The main one in my opinion is the lack of personalised help (and it can be quite hard to find some things on the internet.
Public school is "free" and it turned out just fine with teachers unions and never leaving a child behind. Also the military is 16% of total federal spending. Entitlement programs are over 70%
Phd student here. Human society is like a human body. Every body part has it's own unique purpose and can't function without another. It's ridiculous that we glorify college degree related jobs over blue collar jobs. We can't have a working society filled with only white collar jobs. The most important thing is that you excel in whatever you want to do or are called for in life. Be the best in your trade, whatever it may be!
Yikes! Poor taxpayers then the moment they get their paychecks the money will just be gone with the wind. In my country only the public schools are free, but you need to pass a high score in the college exams, 65% for a vocational course olny, the passing is 70% if you want the whole BS/AB course be available to you, then 80% for Engineering and medical courses and you'll take another exame for those respective courses. It's only a win win situation the taxpayers pays for our college, while they are guaranteed that we'll give them high grades.
"Free college for everybody" lol wait for another few years it will went from "equal right for every body" to "f you" real quick after all the real bills and taxes come knockin on their faces xD
Maybe if they spent some time in another country like russia or the middle east maybe they would understand why our military is actually the most important thing we have
@@MRGFUNKY0 US loses its freedom from the inside. No amount of military can save that. Once the uneducated people become majority (20 years at most) we'll see how free US will be, when the thought police chooses what words can be used and what ideas can be thought And the US military, it won't probably be that much if it weren't for all the "NATO" bases outside US, which aren't really for US' defence
NYU costs 50K per year, plus books and rent, not to mention NYC prices for even groceries. If they wanted affordable, or in NYS free colleges they could go to a state-owned institutions. Practice what you preach
Children? It's not limited to just them. Besides, these are college students. "Children" is debatable.. sort of... never mind, they are children. They will be children until their late 30s... possibly forever.
In 1980 the annual cost of tuition (average) was $9,438.00. using only a widely accepted and moderate, basic, average inflation increase of 2.24% annually compounded multiplied for 40 years, yields an average annual tuition of $22,893.57 in 2020... But the actual average cost of tuition per year in 2020 is $23,872 which is $978.43 over the average basic inflation rate (which isn't very much, really), and this is with a massive increase in population. Now, let's compare minium wages using the same inflation formula of 2.24% over the same period of 40 years, calculated annually. In 1980 the federal minimum wage was $3.10/hr, using the formula this becomes $7.28/hr which is exactly what the federal minimum wage is today in 2020, it is $7.28/hr... But that's the absolute minimum federally, most states have higher minimum wages than this, some are even more than DOUBLE the federal minimum wage and less than half the states (21) use the federal minimum wage as standard... So when we look at the tuition costs, yeah, they're higher in 2020 than in 1980 but relatively speaking, it's not even a thousand dollars more than it used to be -and people on average make a lot more money now than they did 40 years ago (again, relatively speaking). Keep in mind all of these calculations do NOT include bursaries, scholarships or other financial aide widely available to students -which can significantly reduce the costs of tuition well below inflation or in many circumstances, outright pay for a "full ride"(no tuition charge) for students... Unfortunately, most students do not apply for financial aide and if that's the case, that's your own fault for not even attempting to help yourself. So my questions are this: Is there actually a problem here? And why should someone else pay for your post secondary education? As an adult, you make your own choices and compete for yourself. The best educations should go to the best and brightest students, those who are willing to put in the work, to pay for themselves and succeed. Furthermore, being that the costs of tuition have risen over inflation by not even $1,000, another good question is: what have the costs of operation for post secondary education institutions risen by? What grants, what policies, what financial incentives and financial aide and tax exemptions from governments do these establishments recieve and what donations do these establishments recieve? We certainly do not have the full story. My guess is that we actually have things better and easier for students today than we ever have had before. We just don't know it. Edit: The increase of tuition over inflation in forty years from 1980 to 2020 is 0.9580102105% overall, NOT compounded. This yields an average increase to the average tuition costs of 0.0239502553% per year over inflation (for calculations, I'm just going to use 0.0239503%)... So let's put this in terms that even Will Witt's interviewees can understand: this year your tuition will cost you $23,872 which is less than 1% over inflation over forty years. And next year, your tuition will increase over inflation(which again, inflation is fair) by $5.72(the cost of a latte) from 2020 year to 2021. Your cost is (23,872+2.24%)+(a latte)=$24,412.45. it increases by $540.45 that year -or $45.03 a month. Skip that latte and you're on 2020's budget, because afterall -minimum wages increase on average with inflation and most states actually have a much higher minimum wage than the federal standard. You can also take a part time job which pays more than minimum wage, you know. It's your choice. If we do not at last apply a moderate increase to tuition fees which matches inflation, the schools lose money and will not be able to function. Duh. Also, don't forget that post secondary graduates not only have a much, much lower rate of unemployment than high school graduates, they earn on the low end, $17,500 more per year than high school graduates... And their wages increase at a minimum with inflation and usually also have benefits in addition to these much higher wages. Take the loan. Apply for bursaries, apply for scholarships, get a part time job and spend as little as possible while you're in school. Take classes which will benefit your goals, work hard and work smart so you actually learn something useful.
This channel is amazing! I work in financial aid and cannot for the life of me, understand why so many people who either have no business being in college, or who have no idea what they are doing there, are taking out LOANS just to figure it out?! Please... Do some apprenticeships, go to a community college first or a trade school if you have no clue what you're trying to go major in... Do not take out $50,000 dollars in Federal loans, for a liberal arts degree that's not even worth $.50 cents
It should be free so that a lot of people will have certificates that they can hang up in the living room wall. This way they will feel important..but NO!!
I am from Slovakia. We have free universities. Now, how do you fund a university? The first attempt our government did, was to fund unis based on how many students they allow in the first semester. This created a situation, where unis accepted everyone, banked on the headcount and then filtered most of the students after 1st semster. It didn't work. So the gov decided, they will instead fund unis based on how many students actually graduate, and this was even worse, because the unis became incentivised to let everyone get a degree, because they got $$$ for passing students...
It is not the education they want, it is that useless piece of paper they get at the end. Dummies. These people should be grateful that there is so much information out there. In my time, there was no PragerU or Mike Rowe, et al. We couldn't do the research on education that you can now. I wish I would have never gone to university and instead focused on Trade and Technical school. It matched my skills much better, but because I was good at math, I was pushed towards a degree. I have never been happy since.
It is baffling how many people decide to attend college and take on massive debt without having any idea what they want to do with their education and thus how they plan to pay off their debt. If you aren’t decided on what career you want to pursue, but still want some level of post-high school education, then attend a smaller, community college. It’s WAY cheaper and gives you time to decide what career you want to pursue without spending an enormous amount of money for the same general-Ed classes you will be taking for your first 1-2 years at a larger university.
By the time I was 18 i had already filed taxes for 5 years. I went to my bank were I had an account and a car loan {One car loan already paid off} and got my student loan. I paid that off too. All that because I worked for it from a young age. Thanks Mom and Dad for preparing me for life.
That last girl was a perfect example of what I usually get when I try to start political conversation with most Liberals. They don't have a clue about anything, but they have an opinion on everything.
The last sound bite was pure gold. You could cry for the education system in this country.
1pt21jigawatt great Scott !
You can't even reason with these people because everything comes out of their mouth is pure nonsense.
In my mind, your comment was read out by Christopher Lloyd
I just saw Christopher Lloyd in person at a fan convention in Dallas so the timing of this comment is funny for me
Left's logic:
Free education
Free healthcare
Free housing
Free food
But from where the money?
"Tax the rich"
I'm a garbage man. I am damn glad I am garbage man. I sure as hell don't want to pay for someone else's college tuition.
But it's "Free!!!" according to the socialist. Its like people don't realize what taxes is. Once they start working "real jobs" and paying "real bills and taxes," they'll hopefully learn their lesson. If not, then they're too dumb to understand that nothing is "Free." Everything has a price.
Shinobiwan Finally a person with sense unlike the dummies on this video unbelievable 🙄
KegHound86 Ur damn right!!
Well you also pay for the bailouts of Boeing, oil and gas industry, and insurance
And you would on war???
How does your IQ not drop when you talk to these people
My IQ DOES drop when I listen to them. Thanfully I'm reading Thomas Sowell books so it all evens out
like like like like
I don't!I lost some of my brain cells instead.
@@allizappamcminn4376 Lose some more, you may be able to hold a leadership position in Antifa.
I'd be more worried about the equally thought out decisions they make about hygiene and disease prevention in general.
"We should tax the wealthiest people." When they say this, they do realise that people are wealthy because of capitalism, right?
So in their idea of a socialist country, capitalism plays a huge role.
Socialism has always relied on capitalism to create wealth that it can squander.
yet to what point is it too much? You have billionaires that don't even want to pay minimum wage/scam their way as Wells Fargo did. please, stop advocating about the rich when they literally dgaf about you.
@@gp7493 -it is the rich that have companies/businesses that provide jobs for non rich people. I'm going to take a wild guess that you are for socialism. Socialism is basically legalized theft. It sucks.
hja so reaganomics which failed? And sure use socialism. I haven’t heard that defense used before 😂
@@gp7493 -It would be no surprise if you are the bumbling twit at the end of the video. Just so you know, it did not fail. Those who oppose capitalism & free democracy will illogically claim otherwise.
They all say “I think” but so few of them actually do.
It's hilarious how Leftists all have the hive mind. They'll all say the exact same words when they bring up their bs excuses.
It's NOT their fault. They have been taught over the years they are smart and should make their own decisions. They have virtually no real world experience. But WE as parents have failed them, because we have coddled them, and protected them from the big bad world so much that they now believe everything is unicorns and sparkles.
Deep for Sheep
Actually, it's "I feel"
What happens when a college student decides 3/4 through school, they want to change careers ? What if they go to school , graduates after spending 60k of taxpayers money; then decides to not use their degree ? What about the 10’s of thousands of students that drop out because they can’t handle the work ? As a taxpayer, I’m not willing to pay for other people’s failures.
There would have to be a contingency plan for the government. If this were to be implemented, they would have to make strict "payback" rules that would make those that don't succeed or choose to be wishy washy pay for it.
But if it's free more people get the chance of graduating and becoming productive citizens, thus paying more in taxes over their life than what they took as students. If someone can succeed in college now, they will also succeed if it's free. If you add to that the number of people that could succeed, but lack the resources, it's obvious that free public colleges could only increase the number of college graduates. There will he more social mobility and the middle class would grow, which is good for everyone. In short, you're just selfish
@@koalanefelibato4365 I think you are right. It's a matter of investing in our future. Even if it did devalue a degree, a country powered by slightly less than college educated students is better than a country of highschool student, and a handful of college educated students. I think trade schools should be part of the equation too.
@@vyper900 Yup, but I also don't think that college degrees would lose value. As automation rises, ownership of a college degree will only become more necessary in order to find a job. So it doesn't just increase social mobility; free public education could also prevent an employment crisis.
Well said ....the same could also be kind of applied to health care.....I'm not willing to pay for other people's unhealthy lifestyle!
“I think we should tax the wealthiest people in the country” lol every time
We should get more government benefits.
Way Out Here That is a lazy ass hell answer!
The rich just have infinite money according to them.
Every. Freakin'. Time.
@@andreanacalhoun9454 which answer?
The woman at the end.
WOW
TJ Avery I agree
She wasted her money.
TJ Avery I have potted 🌱 plants in my house 🏡 smarter than her 😂
Damn Republicans taking over new york because there's more democrats than democrats voting Republican than democrat republicans...
The woman at the end certainly learned a whole lot from college. Is her major Gender study or Resistance?
I don’t know if these students realize that NYU is a private university and would not be included in the “free” college that is being proposed.
My boy will looks fresh.... Very fresh
God, the ignorance of these people is incredibly insulting
Omg nailed it 👍👍
I don't think it is ignorance so much as it is the feeling of entitlement. These students just willingly ape the Democrat philosophy of taxing the wealthy but fail to realize that "free" education will necessitate tax increases on all tax paying citizens.
Other than the last dude in the gray coat
because most of them except for the last bloke, should have done anything else but go to uni.
Yes, but they can flip their hair so well.
"Buttons For Resistance", LOLOLOL. What a Capitalistic idea of selling buttons in the free market!
trudeu's picture is on those buttons, which explains a lot..
They see a demand, so they make a supply!
"Get your Virtue Signaling supplies here!!"
@@mariawiant449 LOL, good one!
@@rangariraikunedzimwe2780 haha the button says moving to Canada. No one's stopping them. Go already to President Castro's love child's fantasyland!
The last guy interviewed is the only one who could think with his head rather than his heart.
Edit: I’m not referring to the chick at the end who has zero clue what she’s saying at all btw.
That chick was probably high, and only used in the video to manipulate the viewers into thinking that people who believe in this are idiots.
vyper900 perhaps, but I think that we were shown that a lot of people don’t know what they’re talking about on this stuff, they only grasp the surface emotions, not delve deep into the facts. That’s the problem here :)
@@jalakor I think you are absolutely correct, but that can be said about both sides of and argument of political matters. I don't know this as fact, but I'm willing to bet that they only showed the interviews that supported their claim.
vyper900 that’s a fair point. I don’t know what the criteria for their interviews are for sure. You see, I identify as moderate, and that bias is one reason why I’m not conservative, just a Moderate with conservative values :)
I wonder why some students aren’t brainwashed like the others. It must be because of good parenting and higher IQs.
Leftist student vocabulary handbook: like, honestly, I feel, kind of
You just basically said "I'm not feeling good today" In their language.
You know!?
Know what I'm sayin'?
right wing student vocabulary: libtards, murica, and screw the left.
@@ojc1787 left wing edition: nazi, racist, hate speech, I'm opressed.
No need for free college, just lower tuition significantly❗️
Ooh, where can I get a free collage? Assuming the artist will do it for free, or a significantly lower rate.
D Val some international Universities with high ranking offer free to lower tuitions.
@@SpJrD You misread.
Mr. Goldfish and you misunderstood my comment, some big name schools charge as much as 10k per quarter! They even trying to increase that to 12k! That’s too much, lowering that to 7-9k at least would help. And by faculty members testimony they said tuition money is only 10% of revenue generated! Bottom line you don’t know shit Jon snow!
@@SpJrD No you misspelled "college" as "collage" (a form of art) and he was taking a jab at that. I agree with your argument (although I think it should be nationalised and subsidised).
Remember kids:
Wanna keep your own property-greed
Wanna take other's property-moral
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, central and south america Russia Germany
My wife is graduating from a state university in 2 weeks. She’s leaving with a bachelors in accounting, and a business degree. ( 2 degrees because most of the classes she took can be used interchangeably between programs ). Our total bill for her education, right around 8k . We’re going to stay in our apartment and pay this bill off in a year.
She must have had a ton of scholarships and grants or had a very good paying job to pay off classes at the beginning of each semester because thats amazing to only have 8k in debt. I have so much, im going to basically never retire
Prepare yourselves for greatness, Doug. You’re already leaps and bounds ahead. Cheers.
Congratulations! It is rare these days that young people have good plan about their future and know what they need to do and understand their responsibility. Thumbs up for you and your wife!
Good job on actually planning for your life.
Assuming she hasn't been weaponized against you by the professors. lol....i know, not funny if true.
They only love "free" college until they graduate and start working and then have to pay for someone else's college. lol
E.L.Dorado I thought the same thing lol.
I'm paying for my own college and I'm willing to have my tax dollars pay for other people's college. Your argument is retarded.
Gods Autobiography You would like the government to rob you so some loser who got nowhere in high school can go to college?
@@GodsAutobiography I live in Canada and pay 42% taxes off my earning to pay for all the "free stuff". Not to mention the two taxes I pay whenever I purchase items. I wonder if I would have any money left if I started paying for free colleges. Your argument is absolutely retarded. Lets see how willing you are when over half your pay goes to other peoples "free stuff".
To have that level of foresight, you'd need a functioning IQ that was above 80. I don't believe they posses that.
I'm actually amazed you found 1 student with a functioning brain. He must have been home schooled...
He doesn’t even go to NYU, he’s a friend of mine that goes to NJIT.
@@harleyserafini51 then we hats off to that student that attends to NJIT! WOOP WOOP!!!
@@cuber759 Kehehe 😆😂🤣
@@harleyserafini51 he looks like he grew up wealthy and saw his father work for his money.
Home school is bad you font know how to talk to people
"The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money"
-Margaret Thatcher
@ProgramKing a social ideology that the means of production, distribution, and exchange is owned by the community or everyone. Very interchangeable with Communism.
@ProgramKing socialism is more associated with liberty and communism is more associated with an authoritatarian state like North Korea
@ProgramKing either way both ideologies aren't what they seem as they mke it out to be on paper.
@ProgramKing true
I expect each one of these children to become a janitor at the University they graduate from.....and do it for free.
The guy at the end was the only one who should have the luxury of education. He wasn't a taker.
He’s right thankfully, but even in his accuracy he somehow manages to be elitist.
brantpam222
“Only the exceptional should go to college”. It’s kind of true but sounds dickish.
@@brantpam222
To be honest, only exceptional jobs should require college. Very few occupations should require a degree.
@@brantpam222 who cares? Elitism doesn't bother me. Act better than me all day, it bothers me not.
@@Everythingisgoingtobealright Ya, that doesn't bother me either, in just don't think it sounds dick ish, then again, I'd be hard pressed to hear something that would bother me. I do a lot of shoulder shrugging.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Steven Crowder would like to know your location
They have similar views...
madwtube If you mean “physically with violence” then yes you are correct.
Don't forget Ben Shapiro
Don't forget Jordan Peterson
If you ask a person in college if they want it to be free,they are obviously going to say yes.Thats like asking people in a restaurant if they want free food lmao.
Kaisa D ok but I’m just saying most people would if you asked them up front
true
Not true. I want to pay for my stuff and have lower taxes
You right.
Zero to Awesome
“I think the Government has the budget for it”.
*U.S. Federal Debt: Over One Trillion*
Zero to Awesome 21 trillion
99 trillion
125 Trillion
Shadow it’s 21 trillion. If it was that much then the economy would have already crashed
Lockon Stratos it’s 21 trillion. If it was that much then the economy would have already crashed
Everything should be free, duh! Who would pay for everything...... duh?! These kids should all be shipped of to Venezuela to see how great and awesome socialism really is!
Taxes? Cut from unnecessary spending?
Works in Scandinavia, why it wouldn't (again) work in USA?
Or, you know, Europe. In Germany, you pay a Semesterbeitrag or "semester contribution" (for administration fees, a ticket for public transportation etc.) and it's 400€ tops (mostly much lower) each semester. Students loans or something like that are just not a thing here. No bank would give a youngster fresh out of secondary school a loan of tens of thousands of euros, that would be immoral.
Make a special education trip to Venezuela lol or North Korea
@Christopher Yeah, I know that. Personally I am not liberal, but conservative. But what comes to economics I must say that I believe in nordic system. It works in Finland pretty well. They are doing just very well, maybe best in the world.
The Venezuelan people with degrees for free education are now in Colombia begging for work and money in the streets. Just come and check it out by yourselves.
I'm living in Colombia, obviously.
How did NON THINKERS qualify for college? My son didn't go to college and makes a cool million plus annually through his hard work and entrepreneurial skills.
TAX PAYER'S MONEY!!!!! Seriously?
I honestly don't see why I should be penalized for working hard and making the money I have.....
You shouldn't. If you work hard, chances are you don't pay much in tax. The ones who should be paying by far the most tax (but aren't) are the rich who generally don't work for their wealth.
@@mr.goldfish1530 Define "work" and why the rich didn't do it. Not all work is created equal. Jeff Bezos, for example, oversees a Multi-Billion Dollar Company that has improved the lives of many be allowing them to buy cheaper products. Thus Bezos gets how much the company pays him for bringing in that money, plus his stocks. The Cleaning Crew at my office may work 12 hours days, yet they do not create billions of dollars of Wealth Like MR. Bezos.
And If you point to inheritance, than let me remind you that 80% of family fortunes are gone within 3 generations. And if you still say ask why the children of someone Like Sam Walton (the founder of Walmart) should get rich, than I ask you they same thing about Welfare recipients. They didn't work for Mr. Walton's wealth anymore than his children did. The only difference is that Walton Choose to give his money to his children. If he had chosen to give it all to pore people, than that would have been great as well.
Rich people work harder for their Wealth than anyone
@@charlesevanshughes3638 Not all work is created equal, but wages do not reflect that. As the most economically literate, the financial sector tends to pay the largest salaries, as you'd expect. This does not mean doctors and engineers add less value for individuals or society, just that they don't receive the same pay.
Also consider that random economic transactions over time tend to accumulate in the hands of the few (this is what the game Monopoly was created to show). Progressive tax systems are a necessary part of keeping a stable system. Without this system, it would have been impossible for individuals to accrue even 10% of this wealth.
@@danwbeeston6146 Of course wages reflect how valuable work is. A doctor's work is more valuable than a janitor, and thus is paid more. If Everyone was a doctor and few people were willing to be janitors, than janitors would be worth more and be paid more. A CEO who runs a multi-billion dollar company creates more value than a doctor, and thus is paid more. You might not like that, but it is true. Progressive tax systems are morally corrupt, as they do not treat people equally. Could you imagine a system where the government takes money from you if you had x skin color? Everyone should be taxed at the same, preferably low, rate.
@@charlesevanshughes3638 I'm not disputing that CEO's add more value. However progressive taxation systems are fair as they attempt to apply a flat tax rate to disposable income. If I earn 20k a year yet my needs (food, gas, board) comes to 18k a year, then a 10% tax of my take home pay, 2k, leaves me with nothing to spare.
If I earn 50k a year however, and I live a slightly more lavish lifestyle and a spend 25k on needs and still pay a 10% tax of 5k a year, I still have 20k in disposable income. This means the government only took 20% of my disposable income.
High levels of wealth also lower the propensity to spend and reduce the monetary velocity and lower growth. As people on lower income spend a much higher proportion of their income, when the government gives out benefits to an area, it is essentially increasing sales for basic industries in the area. Think of it as a subsidy for inferior goods but the firms still have to behave efficiently
"Are you for free college for all conservative Christian colleges?"
I'd like to see the question phrased like that. That might be too much for the average liberal student.
Whenever I feel optimistic about America’s future, Will Witt shows up...
This guy is my dream guy: cute, inteligent, republican, conservative 😍
I’m pretty sure he is still single
That's gay
Nothing he said was either republican or conservative. It's just economics 101.
@@hrvojematic he is openly conservative
He is openly gay
I'm early let me think of a joke
Socialism
nice
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That's hot. Hot as in civil war hot
One of those girls looked like a straight up bird. Someone get me outa here help!
TompyGamer CZ
That actually made me laugh
I remember when I used to want free college for all. Then I joined the military.....
Wait is studieng free in your army ?
@@markkuiper7380 in the us army, yes. 100% college tuition at whatever public University you attend
@@skitboyz7418 sweet with us in the royal army we only get that if we served as soldiers for a year and then go to the officier school while at the same time studieng
@@markkuiper7380 it's similar here. You only get it after one year in service. You don't have to be an officer to go to college, but you can go to college to become an officer
@@skitboyz7418 I ment that you have to go to and army college after that one year service
Democrats: “Let’s do it! It’s in our budget...”
Republicans: “Don’t do it because we can’t fit it in the budget!”
Greens: “The only thing we budget is time!”
Libertarians: “Wait... you guys got a budget?!”
Bring back Vocational High Schools. Plumbers, electricians, mechanics, truck drivers, carpenters, masons, mill workers all make good money without college.These trades are still needed in America.
Will they still feel the same way when they get out of school, get a job, and find out their tax dollars are paying for every one else's college.
I'm waiting for the free Corvettes and yachts policy. Free two months in Tahiti should be next.
That's more likely to happen than subsidised education under Trump.
When these Stu-Dents demand "Free Education", ask them "do you "feel" that wealthy people, such as celebrities, late night talk show hosts, network news anchors, and tenured professors, should have to fund Free Education for All?".
Stand back and watch them melt.
I live in Europe and growing up, I always thought it's a dream to live in the us. But the older I get the more I realize what I actually have in my country... I couldn't imagine living without these things like free education or free healthcare. It's just good to know that no matter in what position you are, even at your lowest point in your life, you will never die because you can't afford food or health care...
TRUE, it just blows my mind these things are even up to debate in the US, I always thought it was the same everywhere, you know free healthcare and Education. The more I learn about the US the more it looks like a dystopian country to me.
@@orbit1894 Yeah. People like those at PragerU make it a hell of a lot worse...
My father used to say it's good to want when I said I wanted something... He would then be silent and ignore me. The lesson was if you want something then you need to go get it for yourself.
This was great because will went more in detail with educating these uninformed people...would like to see more of really making them think - well done!!!!!!! love prageru
Where do I submit my list of things "I want"? Santa no longer responds...
For a start, I look GOOD in a Porsche GT3...
Demand is why education is so expensive. The government has certainly increased the demand by subsidizing and otherwise interfering with the market but mostly that have increased the demand for education by allowing mass immigration to take place.
Not only do immigrants demand educations but they influx in the labor force has stifled wages for average folks who now look to furthering their educations to get an edge economically.
Arguing against making school more affordable is ridiculous... There's MULTIPLE countries that even PAY students to study. YES the garbage men over there pay for the schools, yet they have better living conditions than in the US. I wonder why...
"Do you think it's fair that my tax dollars pay for your school?"
Sir...have you heard of K-12 education?
Thats basic. University would be different. Not necessary unless you wish to push a higher career.
@@forteastro6996 naw that's not really how it's gonna work anymore in the automation age we're experiencing. College is becoming a basic requirement if you want to be middle class. Republicans just underplay it's necessity to keep their anti-free college argument alive.
@@nicolasoke7421 "...automation age..."? Look around. How much is automated? This is still an information tech age, where the average company requires higher educations at higher levels of management. But this is not where most of the jobs are at. Most of the jobs are in the trades dealing with the automotive, engineering, infrastructure sectors, etcetera. These jobs are plentiful, but youngsters are being told they aren't worth the trouble, that it is more beneficial to have a college or university degree to get a higher paying job. What they aren't being told is that those jobs are dwindling and difficult to find and the competition for them is staggering. Kids are coming home from tertiary school with no prospects and end up working a mcjob. The trades are where the jobs are now, and it's possible to become upper middle class in them within a decade.
The Government should pay. They have the budget, no need to tax the American public or the rich
Abner Lainez Fool that money comes from the taxpayer, eventually when the money runs out someone has to put more money back in.
Yeah they do (coughs in 22 trillion dollars of debt)
Listening to those college students lowered my IQ.....
He's from France and he thinks it's a good idea? Well see how those policies turned out for France
It's been in place for years. And the effects as you can expect are quite dreadful :
- Standards in terms of admission greatly lowered
- Decrease of overall quality of education and teaching (which means the average level is lowered too)
- Degrees not worth a dime if you don't do a master's degree
And it's just a vicious circle that's going to continue until people realize that they screwed up... (let's not talk about SJWs who are invading French universities, it'll depress me ^^')
In fact as a french student I have to say that universities are not that good but it's because we have an other system called "great school" that we can do after school if we have the level to attend it and it is very selective, but as the best students are doing this, the other part of people wanting a degree are just worst than in other countries because the best students are not going to university
What's this? Poor people are allowed to be educated and enter the careers they desire without going tens of thousands of dollars into debt? *HERESY*.
"I think the government has the budget" You know your college debt? Well you'll never believe this
They don't even think about where all the money comes from
For one, as more people become accredited, the value of that accreditation tends to go down. Second, and connected to the first, the curriculum tends to be changed to fit the capabilities of the least among the students further lowering the value. And then there's the fact that just because you want to have a certain profession, it doesn't mean positions are available. And, again, if there is one job opening but a thousand candidates, the business can low-ball on salary knowing at least one of those thousand will accept less than the going rate just to have a job. For that matter, they might fire current employees to replace them with others who'll accept half as much. Congratulations, you just shifted the earnings of everyone down...which defeats the purpose of seeking higher education in an attempt to increase your earning potential.
These kids aren't intelligent enough to enter higher education yet.
I think maybe, like, yeah, but, you know, because um, like government has like, the budget you know.
"ummm (please earth swallow me whole, gahd please!) yes?"
earth-chan doesn't swallow
Hey, why not free tuition? Public schools are 'free'; lunches given out there are 'free'. Why not everything for free?? Thank goodness there are no taxes on the school buildings, the faculty work for free, the buses run for free, and the administration also contribute their time. Ah, free stuff...you gotta love it...
Would you be happier,if people from poor families couldn´t attend even primary school?
Yep, free school!!! Professors and administrators work for free, students build and maintain all of the buildings, and 90% of all athletics revenues go to pay for buildings and grounds. Then we could make it frraaaeeee (vocal fry added).
I love it when a U makes fun of college students. Such a clear indication of what they want: embarrass them and use it to spread cheap easily debunkable propaganda.
Also most European think it should be free. Free education, so the garbage man's kids can have also free education and hence break the cycle of poverty. Same rights of education, despite of their financial means. Connect the college entry to the mental ability of the people and not to the financial ability of their parents.
I am from Switzerland!
"connet the colege entry to the mental ability" you mean rewarding those who are good in studies, right?
Don't hate me for asking, I'm just trying to learn. Isn't it fair that the taxpayers pay for college? These kids are our future and if they have a higher education and get jobs where they make a lot of money they will be taxpayers of a higher class and bring the government more money which they can invest in stuff like healthcare, education, the military etc. Obviously you'd need a government you can trust right but in theory it makes sense to me but maybe someone can change my mind.
if you suddenly give 50 million people a free college education the value or college goes down and no real wealth will be generated as a result
@@nalfmalf but the result of college will still be getting a degree with which you can get jobs even though college will lose value
Jan Frank Peter Koen of honestly believe having a degree will guarantee you getting a job once you graduate then you haven’t been out in the real world
I want all those kids to pay for my daughter’s college tuition! Yayy! I’m so glad I know they are willing to give “free” college for all!
Well I’m glad you think that way but Everything may not be when it seems but if you’re willing to give that a shot then good luck with that
Yes, the trash man should pay for my education. Without me, he wouldn’t have a job. When will people realize that an educated society benefits them. If the trash guy didn’t pay for my education, then we’d all be picking up each other’s trash. No offense to anyone in the trash industry, their work is essential to our society.
Like Venezuela.
Or France. Sorry, I'm French, like the guy in the video, and I don't see why we shouldn't make it at least much more affordable to normal folks. Isn't education paramount ? Are you people against the idea of tax ?
Or Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and The Netherlands, all of which feature massively higher standards of living.
Funny that.
@@SCharlesDennicon The way to make it more affordable is to get government out of the business, and let the free market do it's work
@@mr.goldfish1530 Oh the lies you have been told. America has the best treatments for 49 of the 57 main types of cancer. We have 3 times as many MRI machines as Canada. We have Twice as much Disposable income. We have the longest lifespan when you account for Car deaths and fat people who choose to be that way. We have the lowest infant mortality rate in the world, and the second lowest Maternal Deaths during Child berth. We are the only country to enjoy freedom of speech enshrined in our founding documents, and the only one to Grant citizens the constitutional (or equivalent) right to self protection via use of a firearm. The Average American-owned car is 2007, while the Average Sweedish-owned car is 1999. The worst thing about us is that Planned Parenthood legally murders 100 of thousands of children every year, and we are looking to change that.
@@charlesevanshughes3638 First, the US may have good treatments but what's the point in having good treatments if it'll cost thousands of dollars for the individual? I'm gonna pretend you actually care for a second and say that the poor should not be excluded from life saving treatments just to save a few dollars in the pockets of most people.
Also, you shouldn't use average wage or GDP/capita to determine wages. To effectively do the first, you would have to exclude the rich and the second is only relevant in a purely communist society. What you should use is median wage and considering the US poverty rate, I doubts that's very good.
*When your friend on the right disagrees with your statement* 0:18 lmao
It's amazing how people who know nothing think they are entitled to everything. Academics are out of control on cost. I don't think after working full time through my entire college life and going to local schools because that was what I could afford that I should now be paying for someone to go to the school of their choice! Everyone is entitled. Entitled to an opportunity nothing more. If someone is offered a scholarship because of academic excellence, they have earned something in a different way and there are usually some strings attached to some of those.
Poor people shouldn't have to go tens of thousands of dollars into debt while the rich, who generally don't work for their wealth, don't. Equal opportunities is self-explanatory. Rich people shouldn't have more opportunities than poor people but they do and this is one way in which this can be seen.
I'm from an EU country and college here is very affordable but only if you are going to a public college, not a private one. I think that's the big mistake Americans make when they say it's free in Europe, they assume private colleges are free too.
These people are basically saying I like talking money from the people who can afford my college
In Asia we qualified free college if you maintain your grade to A+
The way it should be
In my country, the state colleges are for free, but you HAVE TO pass the entrance exam. If you don’t get a certain score, you won’t be accepted. And also the capacity is limited, so only the best get in. When I tried to apply for an American college, they didn’t care about any entrance knowledge and just money. Basically if your parents are rich you get in.
Also you only have 3+1 year free, then you can study two more years but have to pay. 6 years max of studying.
@@The-Musical-Lover money is everything here, unfortunately. I come from a poor family and my step-dad is a farmer. The state hardly helped me out at all because my step-dad owns a lot of land. But they don't take into account the fact that owning land that's been in the family for a long time doesn't equate to being wealthy...
"I've tought myself more than schools have" - Benchlady 2k19
Here's the thing college will stop meaning anything if it's free and for everyone
Had this argument with a friend not too long ago. He was on the side that college should be free for everyone/all government funded. I tried to explain a college degree would...
A) hold less value
B) the money has to come from somewhere so if the government is paying for it they're going to cut cost wherever they can (never upgrade the computer lab, cut labor that keeps the campus up ect.)
C) class attendance would go down cause a lot of folks (especially fresh out of HS kids) wouldn't take it serious.
Do I think it's over the top expensive as it stands? Absolutely! Should it be free? Heck no! Need to find a balance in the middle.
I'm from the Netherlands, here the collegesbare significantly cheaper (somewhere between 1040 to 3000 euroes a year which would be around 1500 to 4000 dollars a year) and you right about the class attendance especially in the first year a lot of people(kids of we're being honest) who are fresh out high school don't take it serious and almost 20% of the people who attent go and change to a different major or drop out of school in the first two months. Also a side effect is that school take in more students than they have to/than there are job opportunity for sometimes just for the money.
Some schools provide free education in other countries and even pays you monthly like Australia or If you have good grades and graduate you get money or incentives. It should be that way
It is a privilege and not a right. Work for it.
I always make this question: do you agree that someone who works in McDonald pays for your education there in Harvard???
People are usually mute 🤐
When every one has a college degree the degree loses it's important.
Not really and not everybody would have a degree anyway. It won't lose its purpose because it is to show that you have a qualification. Not everyone wants every qualification. If you want to be a farmer why would you want a degree in astrophysics? That's hardly useful for a farmer and most people know that. Including farmers.
@@mr.goldfish1530 So you wouldn't let everyone have "free College"? And most people don't want a degree in Astrophysics, they want a degree in general. If they aren't qualified, than they will just flunk out after a few semesters, not have to pay any money for wasted time
@@charlesevanshughes3638 The inqualified will flunk out regardless. With subsidised (not free) tertiary education, the poor will still be able to move on with their lives without the burden of still thousands of dollars in debt.
@@mr.goldfish1530 As We have been having these conversations in multiple threads, I propose an almost No-cost solution to the college debt crisis we both should agree with: Some organization, possibly Non-profit, recruits a few professors in a diverse group of fields. The lectures of those Professors would be captured and put on a site for anyone to view and get the education. After watching a semestor's worth of material, they could travel to the a designated college for a few days to take finals. People could get their degrees at minimal cost while working a job. Sure, they would not be able to live the "dorm life", but anyone who goes to college with the sole intention of doing that doesn't belong in college at all.
@@charlesevanshughes3638 That has consiserable drawbacks. The main one in my opinion is the lack of personalised help (and it can be quite hard to find some things on the internet.
Please teach these people how the capitalism system and the tax system work. This just hurts to watch
They know they're advocating for redistribution of the taxes to go from the military to education.
Public school is "free" and it turned out just fine with teachers unions and never leaving a child behind.
Also the military is 16% of total federal spending. Entitlement programs are over 70%
Phd student here. Human society is like a human body. Every body part has it's own unique purpose and can't function without another. It's ridiculous that we glorify college degree related jobs over blue collar jobs. We can't have a working society filled with only white collar jobs. The most important thing is that you excel in whatever you want to do or are called for in life. Be the best in your trade, whatever it may be!
Congratulations America, we've raised a generation of free loaders and socialists
That last clip killed the last few brain cells that were left in me.
3:13 - there is hope yet!!!
The Canadian province of Quebec has the lowest tuition fees in North America, but it also has the worst graduation rates.
Yikes! Poor taxpayers then the moment they get their paychecks the money will just be gone with the wind. In my country only the public schools are free, but you need to pass a high score in the college exams, 65% for a vocational course olny, the passing is 70% if you want the whole BS/AB course be available to you, then 80% for Engineering and medical courses and you'll take another exame for those respective courses. It's only a win win situation the taxpayers pays for our college, while they are guaranteed that we'll give them high grades.
"Free college for everybody" lol wait for another few years it will went from "equal right for every body" to "f you" real quick after all the real bills and taxes come knockin on their faces xD
I’m waiting for this same group to claim that we’re entitled to free sex too under the guise of better health care.
@William Pibb I know, right?! I wrote that and then thought, now hold on a minute... 😆
“They should stop spending so much money on military”
Because staying alive and free isn’t important.
Blue Carbon ehh the “free” part is debatable
Maybe if they spent some time in another country like russia or the middle east maybe they would understand why our military is actually the most important thing we have
@@oooooo6308FREE , the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.
@@MRGFUNKY0 US loses its freedom from the inside. No amount of military can save that. Once the uneducated people become majority (20 years at most) we'll see how free US will be, when the thought police chooses what words can be used and what ideas can be thought
And the US military, it won't probably be that much if it weren't for all the "NATO" bases outside US, which aren't really for US' defence
@@BingChilingEnjoyer LMFAO Spoken Like a true DEMACRAP....................................
NYU costs 50K per year, plus books and rent, not to mention NYC prices for even groceries. If they wanted affordable, or in NYS free colleges they could go to a state-owned institutions. Practice what you preach
I’m in the Army and I cannot frikin fathom that these are the people I’m putting so much of my life on the line for 🤦🏽♀️
Ever notice that children always say like like like
Children? It's not limited to just them. Besides, these are college students. "Children" is debatable.. sort of... never mind, they are children. They will be children until their late 30s... possibly forever.
Ever notice that old people always seem to hate newer generations?
The kid who said the government has the budget made my heart drop💀 does he not know that we pay the gov??
I made it to 1:08 before stopping the video.
How come they never blame their teachers?
When I went to a State college, it was around $300 to $400 tuition a semester.
0:35 Being French I can assure this person does not represent our people...
Yes, why did he even move to the US if college was free in France.
@@reddash358 Ah yes, forget every other possible reason. He has free college in France, so he should stay there duh
Defanet like what other reason
I didn’t move there for college. I already got my degrees in France. Bye now
In 1980 the annual cost of tuition (average) was $9,438.00. using only a widely accepted and moderate, basic, average inflation increase of 2.24% annually compounded multiplied for 40 years, yields an average annual tuition of $22,893.57 in 2020... But the actual average cost of tuition per year in 2020 is $23,872 which is $978.43 over the average basic inflation rate (which isn't very much, really), and this is with a massive increase in population.
Now, let's compare minium wages using the same inflation formula of 2.24% over the same period of 40 years, calculated annually. In 1980 the federal minimum wage was $3.10/hr, using the formula this becomes $7.28/hr which is exactly what the federal minimum wage is today in 2020, it is $7.28/hr... But that's the absolute minimum federally, most states have higher minimum wages than this, some are even more than DOUBLE the federal minimum wage and less than half the states (21) use the federal minimum wage as standard...
So when we look at the tuition costs, yeah, they're higher in 2020 than in 1980 but relatively speaking, it's not even a thousand dollars more than it used to be -and people on average make a lot more money now than they did 40 years ago (again, relatively speaking).
Keep in mind all of these calculations do NOT include bursaries, scholarships or other financial aide widely available to students -which can significantly reduce the costs of tuition well below inflation or in many circumstances, outright pay for a "full ride"(no tuition charge) for students... Unfortunately, most students do not apply for financial aide and if that's the case, that's your own fault for not even attempting to help yourself.
So my questions are this:
Is there actually a problem here?
And why should someone else pay for your post secondary education? As an adult, you make your own choices and compete for yourself. The best educations should go to the best and brightest students, those who are willing to put in the work, to pay for themselves and succeed.
Furthermore, being that the costs of tuition have risen over inflation by not even $1,000, another good question is: what have the costs of operation for post secondary education institutions risen by? What grants, what policies, what financial incentives and financial aide and tax exemptions from governments do these establishments recieve and what donations do these establishments recieve? We certainly do not have the full story.
My guess is that we actually have things better and easier for students today than we ever have had before. We just don't know it.
Edit: The increase of tuition over inflation in forty years from 1980 to 2020 is 0.9580102105% overall, NOT compounded. This yields an average increase to the average tuition costs of 0.0239502553% per year over inflation (for calculations, I'm just going to use 0.0239503%)... So let's put this in terms that even Will Witt's interviewees can understand: this year your tuition will cost you $23,872 which is less than 1% over inflation over forty years. And next year, your tuition will increase over inflation(which again, inflation is fair) by $5.72(the cost of a latte) from 2020 year to 2021.
Your cost is (23,872+2.24%)+(a latte)=$24,412.45. it increases by $540.45 that year -or $45.03 a month.
Skip that latte and you're on 2020's budget, because afterall -minimum wages increase on average with inflation and most states actually have a much higher minimum wage than the federal standard. You can also take a part time job which pays more than minimum wage, you know. It's your choice.
If we do not at last apply a moderate increase to tuition fees which matches inflation, the schools lose money and will not be able to function. Duh.
Also, don't forget that post secondary graduates not only have a much, much lower rate of unemployment than high school graduates, they earn on the low end, $17,500 more per year than high school graduates... And their wages increase at a minimum with inflation and usually also have benefits in addition to these much higher wages.
Take the loan. Apply for bursaries, apply for scholarships, get a part time job and spend as little as possible while you're in school. Take classes which will benefit your goals, work hard and work smart so you actually learn something useful.
This channel is amazing! I work in financial aid and cannot for the life of me, understand why so many people who either have no business being in college, or who have no idea what they are doing there, are taking out LOANS just to figure it out?! Please... Do some apprenticeships, go to a community college first or a trade school if you have no clue what you're trying to go major in... Do not take out $50,000 dollars in Federal loans, for a liberal arts degree that's not even worth $.50 cents
It should be free so that a lot of people will have certificates that they can hang up in the living room wall. This way they will feel important..but NO!!
Keep shining that LIGHT👏🧨⚡🔥💡🕯 of COMMON SENSE! IT WILL help some WILL!
Thanks again!
I am from Slovakia. We have free universities. Now, how do you fund a university? The first attempt our government did, was to fund unis based on how many students they allow in the first semester. This created a situation, where unis accepted everyone, banked on the headcount and then filtered most of the students after 1st semster. It didn't work. So the gov decided, they will instead fund unis based on how many students actually graduate, and this was even worse, because the unis became incentivised to let everyone get a degree, because they got $$$ for passing students...
It is not the education they want, it is that useless piece of paper they get at the end. Dummies. These people should be grateful that there is so much information out there. In my time, there was no PragerU or Mike Rowe, et al. We couldn't do the research on education that you can now. I wish I would have never gone to university and instead focused on Trade and Technical school. It matched my skills much better, but because I was good at math, I was pushed towards a degree. I have never been happy since.
It is baffling how many people decide to attend college and take on massive debt without having any idea what they want to do with their education and thus how they plan to pay off their debt.
If you aren’t decided on what career you want to pursue, but still want some level of post-high school education, then attend a smaller, community college.
It’s WAY cheaper and gives you time to decide what career you want to pursue without spending an enormous amount of money for the same general-Ed classes you will be taking for your first 1-2 years at a larger university.
By the time I was 18 i had already filed taxes for 5 years. I went to my bank were I had an account and a car loan {One car loan already paid off} and got my student loan. I paid that off too. All that because I worked for it from a young age. Thanks Mom and Dad for preparing me for life.
That last girl was a perfect example of what I usually get when I try to start political conversation with most Liberals. They don't have a clue about anything, but they have an opinion on everything.