Basic Defensive Methods with Shashka
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- This video shows the viewer the basics of defense with the Shashka saber. This films shows the viewer the eight count strikes and eight count blocks and references the counter attacks.
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Yes, there are three translated into English now, they are available on Lulu.com printing they are The Cossack Saber Manual Vol1 basic attacks and defense, The Russian Cossack Saber Manual Vol 2 cutting and thrusting and the Cossack Saber and Lance Vol3 use of complex tactics and strategies for attacks.
очень впечатляюще! Are there any good books that cover the shashka?
Пальцам трындец.
Hey can you thrust or stab into something with a shashka without your hand sliding onto the blade?
Yes, but you must either use a lanyard or use a pommel grip. Also military specifications require the last 6 inches to left dull.
Watch my latest video. You will see thrusting with the use of the lanyard.
Depends on the shashka. If we're talking about Russian models -- most models but 1834 and a couple others have some sort of a hand-stopper, not just a straight handle with a pommel. It's not very big usually, but still.
Models like 1881/1910 have a handle angled towards the edge (so called "asian type"), so the blade's point in line with the handle. And it's an okey thrusting weapon. The "Caucasian type" shashka was more of a slashing tool, didn't have a grippy surface on the handle. Had less of a hand-stopper bulge on the handle. And the blade's point not in line with the handle to get better cutting qualities. Some of the caucasian types of shashka weren't really good thrusting weapons, so yeah, a pommel grip would help. Most of the shashkas of this type didn't have lanyards at the time.
I mean holding my Hanwei shashka I feel like even without the lanyard you could stab with it though I wouldn’t do it too hard. Basically just aim to do the minimum length required to and aim for the stomach not the chest and I think you’d be ok
@@TheMan-je5xq Hanwei making both types of shashka, but I guess you mean their most popular model, which is a copy of 1881 model with a blade's tip in line with the handle, so yep. It's an okay thrusting weapon, a good compromise between shashing and thrusting. You can absolutely thrust without using a lanyard, though it has one, as it's a cavalry saber.
The shortest line between your shoulder and your opponent, if you both have the same height and the surface you stand on is level -- is their shoulder. The lower you thrust -- the longer the distance. Thrusting to a stomach you'd need to lower your shashka arm's shoulder to the stomach level (doing a lunge, for example), or it won't be a shortest line.
For shorter blades, like cutlasses, there's even absence of attacks to legs in combat manuals. Because in general it leads to getting your head too close to an opponent and too vulnerable in the process.
Do you have a sparring experience with a decent saber fencer?
The Russian shashka fencing combat manuals were basically the same as other European saber combat manuals. I can send you a link if you'd want to.
And your techniques are even farther from the Caucasian ones - Georgian Khevsurians used bucklers to block. Other Caucasian nations didn't leave any evidence of the European-style systematized fencing and, by all accounts, were using their shashkas to get the first strike or to get the lead hand of the opponent first if the opponent was using a heavier weapon.
Accepting a solid strike with a flat side of the middle of your blade might lead to horrible vibrations. Some disarming techniques are strikes to the middle of the blade on its flat side.
Intentional rotating your weapon in your grip to get your blade's flat side against the strike most probably won't happen in real fast-paced combat.
Parrying in septime as at 4:29 time in your video, might lead to losing your weapon.
All the parries are usually done in response, not in advance of the strike, as it would lead your opponent to offer you a feint and attack you from the position you just opened with that strike anticipation.
So Viktor its obvious that you do not understand HEMA-Historical European Martial Arts, The film you are watching is a demonstration of specific text and the methods from a specific manual. I have read 14 pf the 16 known Russian Military's treatise on the Shashka saber. I have trained in Russia with several top teachers on the proper methods and use of the Shashka I have training and I am familiar with the Circasiian Caucasian and Georgian methods. You are correct that Russian Shashka methods are influenced by French Saber. As you know Russia defeated France in war of 1812. Many French stayed and taught saber. Later many French Masters came in the 1860s to teach Moscow and Saint Petersburg fencing. French taught Fencing with Saber to many nations throughout Asia. There was a excellent article written by the Saint Petersburg Fencing Club on the defense with Shashka that is worth reading. If you would like I can send you a link.
@@CaliforniaCossack I see you live in California. Please feel free to drop by Redwood City when you have a chance. One of the martial arts schools there has open gyms several times a year with lots of people sparring by HEMA rules, among others. I won a couple HEMA tournaments back in Russia in the sword and shield category, but I also have some humble skills in saber/shashka fencing. We can grab a couple sets of protective gear and HEMA steel sabers and quickly look to see if I understand anything about HEMA. Or I can drop by your gym when I'm around SoCal with some protective gear and sabers if you have your own set. Simple enough to check and see if any of us understands HEMA.
If you're doing anything like Казарла competitions (cutting different targets like vines, ropes, plastic bottles, and bunched vines to see who has the best aim, edge control, and so on) -- we can do that after the sparring session.
There is no need to educate me on Russian military history as I know it well enough.
"I have trained in Russia with several top teachers" with whom? I know a lot of people who's been winning shashka competitions in Russia in both фланкировка and казарла disciplines.
There's no need for a link to an article written by a fencing club, as known historical shashka fencing is derived from the 1862 year "«Воинский устав о строевой службе конных полков казачьих войск»" for mounted and then improved in 1899 year "Устав строевой казачьей службы" for dismounted fencing. There are not a lot of unique features about shashka fencing that sets it apart from other regular western saber fencing manuals. Mainly the absence of a knucklebow to protect the hand. And some drawing techniques specified by the positioning of the shashka in the scabbard with the cutting edge facing up (not unique to shashkas -- there were some western and eastern sabers worn the same way or either way). And some Caucasian types of shashka are worn with the handle going inside the scabbard up to the pommel, which leads to some differences in fast drawing with a simultaneous cut in one swiping motion. That's basically it. The rest is your usual guardless saber, most often balanced more for effective cutting than intricate fencing.
@@viktorpashin So based upon what you are saying in simple terms do not understand HEMA nor study of historical texts. The other issue is you suffer from a need to try and show that you are great to try and prove yourself. Its an I am great and you are not syndrome" Its a sage on stage syndrome, please just focus on your personal leadership skills-www.slideshare.net/lior_caspi/tribal-leadership-slideshare
@@CaliforniaCossack, that's okay that you didn't understand my comments, as you weren't been able to disprove the arguments and tried to attack the opponent's personality. Have a nice day.
Это что за говно? Казаки таких "мастеров" на чистку сортиров определяют.
Я так понимаю, что вы никогда не читали ни одного пособия по казачьей военной подготовке. Прежде чем комментировать, попробуйте прочитать старые инструкции. Затем посещайте занятия.