The Dodgers signing Blake Snell just shows how determined they are to stay at the top. This move shakes up the market and puts pressure on teams like the Mets to respond. Can’t wait to see how this offseason unfolds!
wait, If I'm not mistaken. the deferment thing IS available to ALL teams, not just the dodgers. you guys who squawk about it are simply hilarious. I bet if mets did it, it'd be " oh, what a smart move by Mets" . GTFOH.
I was not expecting Streans to sign Snell. Not the 1st pick of Mets fan either. I expect Stearns two surprises like he did last year. Snell is warm weather (TB) west coast boy. Did not see him as a Met. Not sure he could pitch here.
Why don’t the Mets offer Soto a 700 million deal with 680 mil deferred?! Oh right, cause they’re not the Dodgers and such a desirable destination. Everything has to line up perfectly for the Dodgers for this to happen. The correct players drafted ( traded for Mookie) signing the right players ( not signing Rendon to such a bad contract) etc. This is years in the making. Cry me a river 😢
Yes, I think this man doesn’t know about the CBA when he says “it’s not fair.” Mets went in with a higher payroll than the Dodgers. Its meant to help lower teams.
Five or six teams have spent their entire off-season focused on Juan Soto but only one team is going to get him. They Mets should be focused on pitching instead of wasting their time on one player that probably will not sign with them.
The winter meetings haven't even happened yet lol. Soto is going to be a Met and they will get great pitching whether its the big name FA trades or sterns doing his bargain shopping like he did with Sean and Sevy. We just need to be patient
Imagine if Dodgers signs him. Yes, unlikely and they will pay ridiculous amount of luxury tax, but imagine reading all the comments of jealousy, anger, and hate lol.
They need to bring back Pete and Manea and still get Burnes and Soto and make a blockbuster trade just to compete with a healthy Braves so they have alot of work to do or bust
Offense wasn't the Mets' problem last season. They need pitching. While they waste their time going after Juan Soto, they just let the Dodgers sign one of the top free agent pitchers.
I wouldn’t say going after a generational, future Hall of Fame type player is a waste of time. Mets certainly need pitching, but they need offense too.
@@LockedOnMets They don't need offense, if they resign Alonso. They do need pitching. The only reliable starter coming back is David Pederson. Look at the Dodgers pitching staff and look at the Mets' pitching staff. No comparison.
@@LockedOnMetsThe only reason why people call him a generational talent, is because there are not many players out there who can hit for power and average. Soto has averaged 35 home runs per year over his career. He is far from being a complete player. His defense is weak and he has no speed. Acunua and Ohtanni are generational talents. I'd pass on Soto,and focus on next year's class. Vladimir Guerrero and Kyle Tucker hit the market next season and both are more complete players than Soto.
@@jwvvvvI'd rather hold off and go after Vladimir Guerrero next year. Alonso has had two subpar seasons in a row. I don't think he's going to age well.
@ “until recently” when have the dodgers signed Shohei Ohtani to a long-term deal with a lot of deferred money? That was the major point of the video. See how pointless your argument is?
@ also for the record In 2023 the Meta payroll was 113% higher than the average major league team In 2022 it was 59% higher In 2021 it was 50% higher In 2010 it was 45% higher In 2009 it was 65% higher In 2008 it was 54% higher In 2007 it was 44% higher Cry more
It's honestly insane that he's losing so much money on that deferred payment schedule due to inflation over time. Idk how the players union didn't object to the biggest player in the game miss out on hundreds on millions. that $68 mill/year is worth more in 2024 than it will be worth in 2034. Insane
@@ndep93 That's not how the union looks at deferred money at all. It was the union that fought for the right for deferred money. They love it because it creates more money in the present moment for other players. Deferred money is a positive thing for the union and in order to change something in the CBA the owners would have to create a concession that the players want. The only thing that they would be willing to make a concession for is a reduction in team control which they tried to get in the last CBA and the owners waved it off as a nonstarter. Until owners are willing to give up 6 years of team control don't expect the players to give up anything that they already established in the CBA.
Well, I think it means is that Steve Cohen should not be scared to throw his money around! I’m tired of hearing how the Dodgers manipulate the tax threshold, so why can’t we? Why do we gotta play with gloves but the Dodgers are just signing everybody? Come on Cohen let’s go.
So Snell is off the market, looks like Crochet is going off the market. But keep chasing the Shiny Object To Oblivion (S.O.T.O). Who needs pitching when there's a dumpster full of reclamation projects to dig through? LFGM.
This is why I think we shouldn't go all in. What's the point in selling off your farm system (as some fans are demanding)? Just make the playoffs. Bring back Manaea, and focus on stockpiling as much young, controlable players as possible. That means NOT signing players with qualifying offers. Within 2 years, you can have young dynamic team while players like Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman are declining.
This is the Yankees. 2.0! Look at the market. They’re a juggernaut & playing within the rules. Mets getting Soto, Alonso an ace. 50, 35, 35. All of those contracts will leave 50 million for the entire rest of the ENTIRE team if you want to stay under 297. Cohen I think wants a sustainable team. This is why it’s just going to fill all those gaps. The bullpen needs to be priority. 50 million to fill up VERY LARGE pieces of the puzzle. The math isn’t there, imho.
Players and owners agreed to have deferred money. Your owner just hasn’t done it. I would think this man would know more about the CBA. The Mets went into last year with a higher payroll than the Dodgers😮
Sign Soto and then all other resources into pitching. Pitching wins in the postseason. You need guys that have ability to shut it down. Burnes Senga Manea And hope Stearns can land this years manea
I have a BUNCH of faith in stearns to finagle this.. I just hope he’s willing to SPEND money , the Mets (Cohen lol) can afford burnes , Manaea , Pete , Soto, adamas .. we make those moves or moves that compare we are as good as the Dodgers and can compete with them year in year out. Adding sasaki would be BEAUTIFUL btw , in a world where we can’t get sasaki beauhler would be amazing.
When are you guys going to realize that “winning the offseason” means NOTHING in real life??? I’d prefer smart, calculated, non-self-destructive moves so we can maintain success consistently over YEARS. And Pete, please and thank you! 🤣 LFGM!
This was the first time Fatherly pitched well and for a full season since 2019. He isn't as healthy as everyone thinks. That being said, he will cost less.
Stop glazing Snell he's the biggest fraud in the MLB. He literally has 2 great seasons when he was pitching for a contract. His other 7 seasons are bad to average at best. He's a trojan horse that will burn the Dodgers all season and its going to be hilarious LFGM
Enough already. MLB needs to shutdown the Dodgers. I really do not care about Baseball anymore as its so skewed to one team that seems to have billions. F MLB
@ absolutely not. You would have Soto and Vlad Jr for 15 years as they are both in their mid twenties plus you add those 2 to Lindor and Vientos and you have a powerhouse team. Why wouldn’t you want a proven player like Vlad JR instead of prospects? Statistically more than half the time prospects don’t pan out. Make the deal today!
Ohtani was gambling not his interpreter. Rob Manfred turned a blind eye. Does anyone really believe Ohtani had no idea Ippei Mizuhara was pulling millions out of his accounts? Mizuhara cuts a deal and still not sentenced. Let's see what happens on Dec 20.
The Dodgers signing Blake Snell just shows how determined they are to stay at the top. This move shakes up the market and puts pressure on teams like the Mets to respond. Can’t wait to see how this offseason unfolds!
wait, If I'm not mistaken. the deferment thing IS available to ALL teams, not just the dodgers. you guys who squawk about it are simply hilarious. I bet if mets did it, it'd be " oh, what a smart move by Mets" . GTFOH.
Exactly,but the fact is that’s where he wanted to go🤷♂️Sometimes is not just the money #judge
Well the player has to be fine with as well, how do you not understand this??? It's an idiotic move, because in 10 years your screwed
@@HomelessMosquito :I get what you’re saying,the Yankees gave Judge a 10yr deal & he’s older.It’s a risk,for sure
@JuanAlmonte-rf7xk no I'm talking about 680 million in deferred salaries
Don’t the Mets have the most famous deferral ever? Aren’t they still paying Bonilla?
They are following the rules, and their a destination point. Best run organization in baseball.
Dedgors sign Snell while the Mets play patty cake with Boras.
We can talk about it for the next 2 months. 😂
Who are the Dedgors?
The Dodgers walk and chew gum at the same time it sucks man 😢 the more time goes by the less confident I get we get Soto
Exactly, and I’m a Mets fan. I would not pay Soto past 650..one player won’t win you the WS tittle…ask the Yankees
@@michaelw6193 Juan Soto is another Mike Trout. He'll have five or six monster seasons followed by five or six injury plagued seasons.
Kershaw farewell season. He deserves it 👏
Hey, ask Soto to do it for your team.
I was not expecting Streans to sign Snell. Not the 1st pick of Mets fan either. I expect Stearns two surprises like he did last year. Snell is warm weather (TB) west coast boy. Did not see him as a Met. Not sure he could pitch here.
Why don’t the Mets offer Soto a 700 million deal with 680 mil deferred?! Oh right, cause they’re not the Dodgers and such a desirable destination. Everything has to line up perfectly for the Dodgers for this to happen. The correct players drafted ( traded for Mookie) signing the right players ( not signing Rendon to such a bad contract) etc. This is years in the making. Cry me a river 😢
Exactly, hated the Yankees, but that drama is what reeled me to watch baseball.
Doesn’t the CBA say that the amount of money that can be deferred is unlimited?
Yes, I think this man doesn’t know about the CBA when he says “it’s not fair.” Mets went in with a higher payroll than the Dodgers. Its meant to help lower teams.
As days pass I'm beginning to think Soto will not be a Met.
Five or six teams have spent their entire off-season focused on Juan Soto but only one team is going to get him. They Mets should be focused on pitching instead of wasting their time on one player that probably will not sign with them.
@jwvvvv i believe Stearns knows what he's doing as well. They'll be fine either way.
@@nycbuzz22 Let's hope.
The winter meetings haven't even happened yet lol. Soto is going to be a Met and they will get great pitching whether its the big name FA trades or sterns doing his bargain shopping like he did with Sean and Sevy. We just need to be patient
Imagine if Dodgers signs him. Yes, unlikely and they will pay ridiculous amount of luxury tax, but imagine reading all the comments of jealousy, anger, and hate lol.
Don't overreact. Don't worry. Be Happy. Trust in the front office. David Stearns got this!
🤣🤣🤣
They need to bring back Pete and Manea and still get Burnes and Soto and make a blockbuster trade just to compete with a healthy Braves so they have alot of work to do or bust
Offense wasn't the Mets' problem last season. They need pitching. While they waste their time going after Juan Soto, they just let the Dodgers sign one of the top free agent pitchers.
I wouldn’t say going after a generational, future Hall of Fame type player is a waste of time. Mets certainly need pitching, but they need offense too.
@@LockedOnMets They don't need offense, if they resign Alonso. They do need pitching. The only reliable starter coming back is David Pederson. Look at the Dodgers pitching staff and look at the Mets' pitching staff. No comparison.
@@LockedOnMetsThe only reason why people call him a generational talent, is because there are not many players out there who can hit for power and average. Soto has averaged 35 home runs per year over his career. He is far from being a complete player. His defense is weak and he has no speed. Acunua and Ohtanni are generational talents. I'd pass on Soto,and focus on next year's class. Vladimir Guerrero and Kyle Tucker hit the market next season and both are more complete players than Soto.
@@jwvvvvI'd rather hold off and go after Vladimir Guerrero next year. Alonso has had two subpar seasons in a row. I don't think he's going to age well.
Were staying idle waiting for sotos decision while the dodgers are moving
Mets fans complaining about teams spending money. Cry more.
Until recently, when have the Mets spent money? Fred Wilpon was not nicknamed Fred Coupon for nothing.
@ “until recently” when have the dodgers signed Shohei Ohtani to a long-term deal with a lot of deferred money? That was the major point of the video. See how pointless your argument is?
@ also for the record
In 2023 the Meta payroll was 113% higher than the average major league team
In 2022 it was 59% higher
In 2021 it was 50% higher
In 2010 it was 45% higher
In 2009 it was 65% higher
In 2008 it was 54% higher
In 2007 it was 44% higher
Cry more
You realize Ohtani offered that deferred contract to every team, right?
You realize right, thT when Ohtani left the Angels, the ONLY team he was going to was the Dodgers.?
@ the contract was his idea. He offered to every team that met with him. He even gave the Angels a chance to match it before he chose the Dodgers.
@LI2Chesapeake that was the only team he wanted to go to same thing with Yamamoto he was only going to Dodgers
It's honestly insane that he's losing so much money on that deferred payment schedule due to inflation over time. Idk how the players union didn't object to the biggest player in the game miss out on hundreds on millions. that $68 mill/year is worth more in 2024 than it will be worth in 2034. Insane
@@ndep93 That's not how the union looks at deferred money at all. It was the union that fought for the right for deferred money. They love it because it creates more money in the present moment for other players. Deferred money is a positive thing for the union and in order to change something in the CBA the owners would have to create a concession that the players want. The only thing that they would be willing to make a concession for is a reduction in team control which they tried to get in the last CBA and the owners waved it off as a nonstarter. Until owners are willing to give up 6 years of team control don't expect the players to give up anything that they already established in the CBA.
Well, I think it means is that Steve Cohen should not be scared to throw his money around! I’m tired of hearing how the Dodgers manipulate the tax threshold, so why can’t we? Why do we gotta play with gloves but the Dodgers are just signing everybody? Come on Cohen let’s go.
So Snell is off the market, looks like Crochet is going off the market. But keep chasing the Shiny Object To Oblivion (S.O.T.O). Who needs pitching when there's a dumpster full of reclamation projects to dig through? LFGM.
Roki and big game beuhler going to LA . Teo too.
Still think soto staying in NY, but would be funny he goes to Phillies w his Washington boys
This is why I think we shouldn't go all in. What's the point in selling off your farm system (as some fans are demanding)? Just make the playoffs. Bring back Manaea, and focus on stockpiling as much young, controlable players as possible. That means NOT signing players with qualifying offers. Within 2 years, you can have young dynamic team while players like Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman are declining.
This is the Yankees. 2.0! Look at the market. They’re a juggernaut & playing within the rules. Mets getting Soto, Alonso an ace. 50, 35, 35. All of those contracts will leave 50 million for the entire rest of the ENTIRE team if you want to stay under 297. Cohen I think wants a sustainable team. This is why it’s just going to fill all those gaps. The bullpen needs to be priority. 50 million to fill up VERY LARGE pieces of the puzzle. The math isn’t there, imho.
I'm glad. didn't want snell on the Mets.
You're probably not going to read this, but that deferment doesn't work the way you're describing.
Players and owners agreed to have deferred money. Your owner just hasn’t done it. I would think this man would know more about the CBA. The Mets went into last year with a higher payroll than the Dodgers😮
Sign Soto and then all other resources into pitching. Pitching wins in the postseason. You need guys that have ability to shut it down.
Burnes
Senga
Manea
And hope Stearns can land this years manea
Mets have sign Alonso and Soto. Period.
I have a BUNCH of faith in stearns to finagle this.. I just hope he’s willing to SPEND money , the Mets (Cohen lol) can afford burnes , Manaea , Pete , Soto, adamas .. we make those moves or moves that compare we are as good as the Dodgers and can compete with them year in year out. Adding sasaki would be BEAUTIFUL btw , in a world where we can’t get sasaki beauhler would be amazing.
Going all in, gutting your farm system and signing players who will decline in three or four years doesn't make sense.
Mets need to start signing. The braves will be healthy again next year. Not to mention the Dodgers collecting infinity stones
When are you guys going to realize that “winning the offseason” means NOTHING in real life???
I’d prefer smart, calculated, non-self-destructive moves so we can maintain success consistently over YEARS.
And Pete, please and thank you! 🤣
LFGM!
This is great, now Mets can go get Jack Flahrety who is slightly more valuable because he's not as injured.
This was the first time Fatherly pitched well and for a full season since 2019. He isn't as healthy as everyone thinks. That being said, he will cost less.
No thanks
They let that happen becaudecit was Ohtanis idea. It a player onitiates this. For years it was the Ysnkres
lol they let it happen because it was agreed to in the CBA
We better sign burns before the dodgers sign him to
Mets can give the same signing bonuses and do the deferred money like Dodgers...only they don't want to do it. Blame the Mets, not the Dodgers.
Ok we need to out an end to this "deferred money" shtick. It's basically Luxury Tax evasion! Come on!
The Rich Gets Richer…LGM
Good morning 🎉Ryan - trade for Crochet - he’s young and gives innings
What do they have to give up to get him? Will he resign with the Mets? He can be a free agent after the 2026 season.
@@jwvvvvAnd you know that if he plays well he will go to the highest bidder.
Stop glazing Snell he's the biggest fraud in the MLB. He literally has 2 great seasons when he was pitching for a contract. His other 7 seasons are bad to average at best. He's a trojan horse that will burn the Dodgers all season and its going to be hilarious LFGM
Enough already. MLB needs to shutdown the Dodgers. I really do not care about Baseball anymore as its so skewed to one team that seems to have billions. F MLB
Snell pitch 104 inings. What is he going to do when he has to pitch 150. Break down and make excuses
And collect that fat check.
Don’t worry dodgers get sasaki and another ace pitcher.
They got Snell we need everyone else
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Oh, the poor Mets!!!! “Dodgers manipulating the system”? 😂 Jealous much?
LA isn’t even a big market city.
It’s only the second largest lol.
We have a history of torching Blake snell
It’s all counts towards the tax. If you’re going to do a baseball podcast, at least learn about what you’re talking about.
Snell too much of a jerk for NY- too inconsistent- he’s either worse or best pitcher in league -Walks a problem- we don’t need that
Inconsistency is definitely a major problem for him. There’s a high risk but also a high reward for signing a player like that.
Dudes, really?!? Blake Snell will show you.
Mets need to sign Soro and trade prospects to Toronto for Vlad Jr
That would mean that they would mortgage your future to lose to the Dodgers every year.
@ absolutely not. You would have Soto and Vlad Jr for 15 years as they are both in their mid twenties plus you add those 2 to Lindor and Vientos and you have a powerhouse team. Why wouldn’t you want a proven player like Vlad JR instead of prospects? Statistically more than half the time prospects don’t pan out. Make the deal today!
Ohtani was gambling not his interpreter. Rob Manfred turned a blind eye. Does anyone really believe Ohtani had no idea Ippei Mizuhara was pulling millions out of his accounts? Mizuhara cuts a deal and still not sentenced. Let's see what happens on Dec 20.
Is this guy a Mets Podcaster or a Dodgers fan... These ny Podcaster are the worst... he's a Dodgers ass kisser!!!
He's appreciating greatness, you cant take that?
touch grass, you're soft.
He's being honest.
MLB Should GFT , The Dodgers are not following the rules
I hate the dodgers and the Mets
It'll just feel that much better when we beat the deferred dodgers 🫵🫵🫵
You're not beating the Dodgers, even with Soto. Sorry bud. Lol
Should have done it in the NLCS