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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- BMW X5 M60 or Mercedes GLE 580 or GLE 53 or Audi SQ8?
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0:00 - Intro
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BAD:
0:54 - Expensive
The X5 M60i starts at a whopping $89,300
The GLE53 starts at a whole 11k less - at 78,100
BUT that’s a straight 6, so let’s compare the GLE580, which is a much more comparable 85k
And then there’s the Audi SQ8, which is kind of a competitor here, but the Q8 is a weird fit within the lineup - anyway the SQ8 starts at $95,500 and according to the Audi website currently you can’t even buy an RSQ8 so i think something weird is going on
2:10 - Naming confusion
This LCI year for the X5 really shakes things up - you’re got AT LEAST a mild hybrid on everything and now the PHEVs are more robust, etc BUT there’s some confusion at the sporty-end of the lineup with the Ms
Last year you could get an X5 M50i - which brought great power and speed from the addition of the 4.4TT V8
From there you would jump up to the X5M, and everyone knew what that meant - S designation M engine, reworked suspension, diffs, etc
And from there you could squeeze out a little more performance from the X5M Comp
But for 2024 there’s a big change
There’s the X5 M60i and then a straight jump to the X5M Comp
This is because almost nobody was ordering an X5M non-comp
So now the M60i slots between the old M50i and base M, but gets a big engine upgrade we’ll talk about later
But in any case, if you’re wondering why there’s no more M50 or no more M that’s why
3:13 - Nitpicks
Custom ambient light only available in comfort mode (sport red, eco blue)
Heated steering wheel no longer on the steering wheel
Can’t fold the rear seats from the trunk
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GOOD:
4:18 - The Engine
This new M60i now gets the S68 true M engine.
It’s a familiar one at 4.4TTV8
But now it’s got a 48V mild hybrid system integrated into it to help fuel economy but it ALSO has a fun little trick
If you hold the downshift paddle you’ll enter “Sprint” mode which will dump an extra 40 electric hp into the car for 10 seconds of added pace. The electric energy is then almost immediately recouped and you can do it again - amazing!
This M60i is obviously detuned compared to the M Compeition though
Here you’re making 523 hp and 553 lbft
And that’s good enough to do 0-60 in 4.1 seconds..allegedly less than half a second slower than the M Competition
5:26 - The new look
I’ve said in last summer’s X5M comp video that I think the X5 is the best looking midsize SUV from the Germans and they’ve made some updates for the LCI year here and I still think that old statement holds true
7:11 - The New Interior design
Of course the big story is the addition of iDrive 8 with it’s MASSIVE dual screens
And they put almost everything in the screens including
Wireless ACP
Some of the best 360 cameras in the business
Cool ambient light, though not as cool as Mercedes
But now the heated steering wheel button is in the screen too and that’s mildly annoying
On the M60 and M Comp it says M on the dash
But you’ve also got crystal for your
Start stop button
Drive selector tab thing
And iDrive wheel
8:18 - The Drive
9:43 - Luxuries
You’ve got heated and cooled seats
And you CAN option 8 way massage if you want
You’ve got the heated steering wheel
AND you can even get heated armrests…super cool
You’ve got an awesome Harmon Kardon sound system as standard
But you CAN upgrade to the crazy Bowers and Wilkins 4D audio
And then my favorite thing…a pano roof
But not JUST a pano roof…you can get the Skylounge roof that’s embedded with LEDs to simulate something similar to the ROlls Royce starry night headliner we just saw in the Ghost
10:26 - Trunk
First of all, it’s nice a big - the PHEV will have a smaller trunk because they have to have some place to put the battery BUT on the whole it’s nice and big
The seats do fold…but not from the back…annoying
BUT the floor also comes up, which is pretty normal and you have a secret cubby
BUT the cool thing is that you have a strut that will hold up the trunk floor…which i’ve never seen before and is certainly overkill, but kinda cool
And ofcourse I love that it split folds as it has for decades..never change…also you can tow 7200 lbs
11:04 - Rear seats
They’re spacious for legroom and headroom
They’re a great material and have fancy stitching
They can be heated
And you get your own climate zone back here
AND some shades
And you get the travel screen thing where you can mount your iPad and plug it in right into the back of the front seat…clever
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11:43 - Conclusion - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Removing the climate control buttons in the 2024's are a bad move
have to 100% agree with you , i brought the i4 and i was surprise why they put the climate controls in the screen. thats is so distracting when youre driving.
Yes. It’s also annoying
Is*
This pushed me towards a 2024 GLE….now I “just” need to decide between 450 or a 450e
Just takes some getting use to. I don’t mind it honestly.
Thanks for the review, really good information about the naming.
Theres a new software update coming out in september that updates the I-Drive so everything is a lot easier to navigate and no more confusion on where to go and how to find things.
Great review, informative and good camera work. subscribed.
Pity the dealership didn't allow you so run it in and remember rev limiter and take for a 0-100km/h ( 0-60m/h) dash
Thanks 🙏 yeah I’m hoping to get a press car later in the year for a more thorough test
I bought the 2024 X5M. drove it for about a week. I have pain in my right leg near the knee. It's a thigh support issue from a seat position standpoint. I think their sport seats are designed to be too recessed, which causes you to sink into the seat. This causes your butt to actually be lower than your right knee, which causes thigh pain and soreness. I've been browsing some forums and it seems I'm not the only one having this problem. I've purchased the cushion and hopefully it will help. For a car worth almost $150,000, it's crazy that they can't even make a comfortable seat. wwwwtttttffffffff!
I have the standard 2024 x5 with M sport package. It’s my first BMW. When that lease runs out this is what I will be getting. Your review confirmed what I wanted to know - ride quality. I definitely do not want the M competition.
I just traded in a 2021 X5 M Comp for the 2024 X5 M60i and I'd do it all over again. The power is close enough to the full M for me and the ride is way more refined for daily driving.
completely and totally agree - great to hear your take as an owner
As a BMW guy who owned everything i can say that was a bad deal really, especially if you had reasonable miles on it. You traded the best performing SUV ever and got a really inconvenient and much more cheaper interior, plus the fact that you lost quite a lot of driving capability. And i wouldn't be surprised if you are paying even more than before.
It’s not that close bud, not only the almost 100HP difference, different brakes, suspension, dampening, exhaust, spoiler, seats, front end, rear end, water cooling system and 33K difference in starting price reasons why.
Do you really need a V8? Why?
@@lduranceau8046 No. You don’t need a V8. It’s more of a personal preference if you want more power. The 40i is fine. I’ve just been a fan of BMW V8s for a long time and I didn’t want to change.
Nice review. Two things you didn't comment on that drive me crazy. 1. The gear selector. The "nub" isn't nearly as engaging as using a shift knob. 2. The exhaust pipes not connecting to the tips. The tips float around the pipes giving it a very aftermarket look.
Yeah I can understand those points 😅
With the amount of car channels, I somehow have missed this channel.
Instant fan. Subbed in the first two minutes.
Many thanks 🙏
Great review. My only advice is to use an ND filter because oversaturation makes the video quality looking not so good. Or you could try the ND + Polarizer filter, to get vivid colors. But overall, great review.
i do need to get an ND so I can shoot wider open
@@dwnshft but the review is such amazing!!
Is the ride quality and suspension in comfort mode as smooth as the x5 40i??
Apart form price I think BMW nailed it
I drive the 2020 X5 and everyday, i love it more. I cant wait to get the 2024 LCI
kindly make a comparison between Range Rover sports Autobiography Vrs BMW X5 M40i
Hi there, great review. Interested in your opinion on the suspension. For me it would be a daily drive with long freeway drives. Would air suspension or m adaptive pro be better? Like a speedy take off but want comfort and probably not taking it to track. Cheers
I think you’d be fine with air 👍
You must get massaging seats for long drives! If you are alone in the car, the B&W is phenomenal. Air suspension with 22" wheels are great and very soft, except for sport mode, HOWEVER BEWARE it has a tendency to eat tires. If you hit a pothole, it damages the sidewall. There are people who go from 22 to 20" for this reason. But if you have air suspension the ride becomes too soft.
What package does the ambient sunroof come with? I have it on my current X5. Thank you!
Executive package.
Also depends in which country or region you are. Packages also change with time. So you have to see at the specific dealer.
Es perfecta!!! ♥
Does this car have the automatic start/stop system?
Probably the best SUV on sale right now.
Probably
It’s amazing to me that car manufacturers still haven’t learned the lesson on physical climate comtrols
They really think that because the screen is pretty and cool, that it's better. But buttons and dials are 10x better for frequently used functions.
im at least glad that volkswagen swallowed their pride and said they will do away with the horrific touch controls on the steering wheel and everywhere else. Not having button travel and feedback makes it way more distracting because then you're not sure what the hell you just hit while you're driving lol
Just Bought Mine and I Love it 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Nice 😎
Which suspension setup did you choose? Adaptive M Pro / Air or the standard Adaptive M? This is the biggest dilemma for me.
Should mention that the price is EASILY $100k+ when you add any desirable options.
185 in Switzerland
142k euro almost full option
@@florianwiegand1313 😱
@@pavlo2692 yep, crazy 🤪
I just purchased one fully loaded and with just 1700 miles on it, 89k and I was going to buy one new for 107k so sometimes it's better to search for one used with low mileage
first off what a great review second, I bought a 2024 fyi I had an X5, 2014 it served (perfect) so I thought given wrranty expired best to consider something special as my last driver I am so happy with 2024 M60i every thing is beyond expectations. I thought 40i which is awesome BMW speed and all but the i60m speechless!!
Can’t go wrong with anything X5 , Bravo BMW nuff said the rewards of your hard work Cheers!
x5 >>>>
I want this vehicle but with the full competition engine.
What suspension was equipped in this review?
It is the dual axle air suspension. It lowers 40mm in Sport mode, you you can manually lower it. You can go down 80mm, but when you start driving it goes up 1 level again. You can also raise it by 40 and 80mm to go over obstacles. It matches really well with the 22" wheels. The ride is as soft as 18" high profile, but if you engage sport, it makes it stiff. This is optional but really good to get.
So is it the equivalent to what was the X5 M? Could this be considered a full M car or now only the M comp is the only true M car sort of speak? Hope it makes sense lol
Is this carbon black metallic?! Didn’t hear you mention the ext color
He mentioned. Tanzanite Blue
Yep. Deleted HVAC and memory buttons for shortcuts like TPM, Interior Lighting, etc. was the dumbest things ever!!
There are still memory buttons you just need to swipe down on the screen
@@linus2982 that’s not as bad, but just puts one more step between the user and memory buttons.
"Most buyers are going to drive it like that they don't really want the super harsh and stiff m-damper thing what they want is the power straight line Speed and Sound from the M Engine with the suspension from the normal X5"
You really get what I want! I have a X3M and the sharp suspension caused a lot of trouble for me while giving ride to family memebers and friends. I wont bring my SUV to track and I already passed the age doing crazy things on road. I just want fun drive experience during my daily commute and achieve my "M Dream". I probabily trade in my X3M for a new X6 M60.
Yeah the x3M is really stiff
This is a sexy spec!
Right?!
On another note, the front end looks suspiciously like Darth Vader. Love it! haha!
Lol don’t take this to the dunes 🤣
Im sold! I wanted a daily, something stylish but something that justify the price ahahah. I AM SOLD. The interior screen reminds me of the updated kias! I cannot wait to call this mines!!!
Thank you for your video. I couldn't agree more with your statement that M60i seems to be a reasonable offer for people willing to have some M fun, but still want to assure their family trips are as comfortable as possible. I mean the suspension thing here. Maybe I missed this somehow but what actual type were you having in this car and found satisfying - was it air suspension or the adaptive M/Pro? The adaptive M Pro sounds very interesting but for the sake of family trips (a couple of small kids) I can't accept stiff handling at all times and I'm not sure if adaptive M/Pro in comfort mode will be as smooth as the air one? Advice would be very appreciated :)
Yes, M Pro in comfort is perfectly comfy!
@@dwnshft Thanks for prompt reply, will go for M Pro then most likely. Subscribed by the way 😁
@@pawelesniorowski9791 Actually, you should go test drive and put the car in different suspension modes and take it over some bumps to see how you like it. Verdict is that it's still a bit more jostle-ly than you may like if pillow-comfort is what you're after.
That one is just beautiful piece of art and performance. I would say its a prefect vehicle except for the price tag.
thinking of replacing my 10 year old (from new) Range Rover Autobiography with this, we own a GLS 580 Merc for long haul with the Pups, luggage, , so Im looking for a sweet alternative Mid Size, this X5 M60i seems to hit the spot...
Bro buy a 2 door sports car.. the whole sooped up SUV thing is a stupid concept if you really think abt it
You won't regret it. I absolutely love mine.
Make a video on the X6 M60i
will see what i can do!
Own a 2023 X5M50i. Very satisfied. Don't need a mild hybrid.
You cn fold seats if you have motorized trunk curtain and the whole package (unless not in US...)
what package has that?
@@gianluccpiccard8570 in EU its "trunk accessories package" or smth along those lines
Request for the best and worst of the 1993 Geo Metro.
lol i'll see what i can do
I know they’re different cars , but I’m debating between a Tesla model X and this x5m60 … any input ?
they're so different - the tesla is a missile in a straight line, but this BMW is fast, sounds brilliant, and is a more genuine luxury product
@@dwnshft thanks for the reply ! Gonna put you on the spot then , which would you choose ?
tesla comes with very low quality of the build. In less than 6 mounts all internal parts rattle. In short BMW speaks business. tesla is cheap crap.
10:42 "the strut that will hold up the trunk floor which I never seen before" 🤣
So this is the first X5 your seeing as the holding strut has been there at least since 2019 - 4 years old!
That right there tells the viewers how meaningful this review is!
Lol, how about since 2009 ?
Gle 53 24’ is 86,750 😢. 23’ was priced $76,950. So 89k doesn’t sound that bad given it’s a bigger car.
It really isn’t much bigger to be honest. A bit wider perhaps. But between a gle and an X5, I’d recommend the X5 as it’s superior to the gle in terms of ergonomy, tech and design, even through that’s subjective. You can also buy an X5 50e - in-line 6 engine with a large electric boost. might be interesting in terms of tax deductions, especially if it’s a company car.
@@matthisalbert I meant V8 vs v6. I absolutely love the gle 53 look. I prefer the Mercedes interior over X5. I also know that what’s the ultimate driving machine 😊. I went for gle for the 3rd row. X5 doesn’t have that option and GLS and X7 are just too big for NYC.
BMW’s lease way better than mercs
The worst thing is the price.
cant argue with that
I just recently purchased a 2024 BMW X5 Xdrive40i...while my budget was north of $100k, I simply could not justify the M60i. First, if you drive both you will definitely notice the difference in the two from a pure power perspective! However, that is TRULY the only difference and for me, the added horsepower in the 60i was not worth as much as the better gas mileage in the 40i. In the 40i you get a combined city/highway of 27 MPG!!! My 40i is also in the Tanzanite Blue and he is right it is drop-dead gorgeous! if you can afford it, I don't think you can go wrong either way and it is just a matter of choice. I moved over to BMW from my 2023 Mercedes GLE AMG 63 and all I can say is bye, bye Merc, I'll see you in the next life 🙂
Dude is willing to spend $100k on the car but is cribbing about mileage to say $500/yr. Perspective is off
V8 (s68) 🤝✌️💙
With options you’re talking about a $100k/$150k car. It’s a very heavy car, to not offer carbon ceramic breaks in this or the competition is a shame. I’ve tracked this car and they could use it
Why do you call this a car? It is an SUV. No one should ever seriously track this behemoth for time. Against what, a V6 mustang?
Sir. I like your content and review style. However, I’m sure you probably reviewed the Cayenne…in which I’m incredibly confused as to how you can say the BMW is the best performance luxury mid-size SUV. I am a BMW fan but a much bigger Porsche fan. I know the comparable Cayenne is far more expensive but it really doesn’t matter comparison wise as it is in the same class. There is no way any performance luxury SUV can compete against any of the 2024 Cayennes. I mean they have been doing 10 piston brake calipers since like 2014. As a car enthusiast l, I’m sure you understand my point.
I totally get it, but I haven’t driven a cayenne in years so I don’t have the context
What Cayenne competes with this? The S? It has 50 less hp, and once you add options to match the BMW it’s probably $120k. And if price is irrelevant then why don’t we throw in the X5 M, RSQ8 and the Urus, they’re in the same class and pummel all Cayennes but the GT. And let’s remember, these are 5000 lb luxury SUVs made for daily driver duty, not sports cars or GT cars that you are carving up canyon roads on weekends, or take to the track.
@@gregs8685 2 letters. GT. There is no car company you can possibly like that makes better performance luxury cars than Porsche. Look at all the comparative reviews and come back to me. All of their cars are benchmark in the respective classes. What do you think will compete with the upcoming Macan EV with the “Turbo” words on liftgate? There simply is no equal. Does “Holy Trinity” mean anything to you? Imagine a 3-series competitor. The only thing missing. When they launch it…the 3-series will no longer be a benchmark. This comment will age well.
1. this is a fantastic LCI upgrade from BMW. the styling and body-line changes are amazing. they truly rejuvenate the car.
2. this V8 engine is fantastic. the ease of power is so much more comfortable than driving a V6
3. the interior material quality is poor. everything is so light-weight compared to my 2014 BMW M5, for example. flimsy and light weight, cheaper feeling leather, for example the steering wheel. will it stand the test of time? TBD
good and bad, like everything in life.
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Well shit. I just ordered this color with the blacked out trim packages and the black 22-inch wheels, so it looks almost exactly like this car - but with the flat six. Now I want the eight.
The 8 is great, but the 6 is awesome too! Just a more subtle kind of awesoem
i just bought the m60i awesome! Fyi climate controls Re very simple there must hVe been N upgrade very easy and quick
@@cp1699I never understood the bitching over the lack of physical climate control buttons. 99 percent of the time I am just adjusting the temperature, which is always displayed, or physically directing the air vents. I know others like to fiddle with CC all the time but I am not one of those, and as you say, it’s not that hard anyway. Glad you like the car, and I am enjoying the six. I did drive the M60i before I ordered. Not sure you can make a bad choice here, though I have heard of numerous issues with the PHEV version.
What color is this?
I own the M60 and my wife has the M50i. I say the M50 sounds better, there should have been more power in the M60 but nope its the same. The lack of buttons really does suck at first and doesn't really get better. The fact its a true M engine should have made more HP
M60i = M50i ??!!! no way
How’s the turbo lag?
almost unnoticeable
I'm thinking quite seriously about ordering one. Here's my bitch list thought. 1. I wish you didn't have to have that huge obnoxious panoramic roof which where I live will NEVER be used--total waste of money. 2. I wish they would get rid of those very DORKY ROOF RAILS. Nobody uses them for skiing. 3. I want the 22" Black Wheels but the dealer told me they only come with the SUMMER PERFORMANCE TIRES so I will have to also order a set of extra wheels and also ALL SEASON TIRES--KACHING. Other than that those are my only 3 bitches. Not a big fan of the 2 part rear hatch but I could get use to it---I think.
I am willing to give BMW $1000’s for some bs package that will bring back iDrive 7, and remove that giant touchscreen
I always squeeze all the juices from my X5. Never drive it as lux car
I absolutely h8 the idrive8 and h8 that BMW is watering down the M line.
First of all, it’s not a real true M, so that’s the first issue. Why? 33K reasons that’s why. Your comparing a real AMG to a non M car. Compare it to the X5M competition and you will see several options that make it the REAL M. Brakes, suspension, exhaust, water coolers, spoiler, front end, horsepower - even though they house the same motor, the M comp is tuned to 617HP, where the non M 60 is at 523HP. Plenty reasons why it’s a 33K difference.
Yep. Mercedes have been slacking
The grill is cool …but the bumper…..hideous
yeah not really sure why they chose to do that
As a car fleet owner ill probably WONT be buying this or ANY car.
Watch this car have a dumb ass mark up of 20k+ from dealership for regular models and M models.
I ordered mine and got a discount off MSRP.
@@777triathlete funny enough I was yesterday with my broker and he's giving me his 2022 x5m competition fully loaded for 1300 a month! I need to find out what the sticker price is because he told me he'll probably sell me the car for 77k.
He's also ordering the new x7 a 2023 for the new body, I'll be paying 1400 from what he quoted me yesterday. And I'm also getting the new Benz GLC 300 for 800. I currently have a GLC and I'm paying 780 for my 2021
Looks like alfa
screens, screens and more screens.... 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Yeahhhhhh
Regarding the engine, both m50i and m60i have same power and torque. 0-100km/h is also same.
Your review doesn’t go deep just scratch the surface.
Sorry, your presentation is superb but the content is mediocre.
I absolutely hate that big screen.
not a fan of the interior, they should've still stuck with a normal gear shift, then changing it to a flick switch
kinda agree
Bmw has ventilated seats, not cooled. and they are worthless.....
How the fuck is the X5 a mid size suv??? Just because it’s not the size of a Escalade????
That’s ridiculous.
Should be compact because it has only 5 seats. Most mid-size have 7 seats. I owned two of them.
@@nicholash8021 that just doesn’t make sense to me. It sit higher than a wagon and more space then a sedan. I don’t get this midsize and compact suv nonsense.
If you live in Europe, then I understand because when I rent a midsize SUV, they give me something like a Toyota CHR, which is neither midsize nor an SUV by any stretch of the imagination.
@@nicholash8021 I don’t live in Europe. Caribbean resident so I’m close to the US. I just find these different segments a waste of brainpower and time. Suv is suv. Sit higher than a sedan or wagon and more space than a sedan or some wagons. Suv is suv.
Crv is suv. Hrv is suv. X3 is suv. GLC is suv. Americans make things unnecessarily complicated.
@gaara4667 The trend I'm seeing in smaller SUVs is that they sit a bit higher than a sedan but have less trunk space than a sedan. I have the same issue evey time I rent one and have to get two medium and two carry-on suitcases into their shortened trunks. My Volvo XC90 is a proper "midsize" SUV. I can fold the seats flat and fit a 3-person couch in that and close the rear door. I can also take it off-road and raise the suspension height. It can even tow a boat. That is a "utility" vehicle. My present rental, a Toyota CHR, is literally a Stupid Useless Vehicle, not a Sport Utility Vehicle.
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