Canon RF 100mm f2.8: Canon Macro Lens with SA Control (Review)
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- Review of the New Canon Macro lens the Canon RF100mm 2.8 Macro with SA Control. What is SA control anyway?!?!
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Here's my video review on Canon RF 100mm f2.8: Canon Macro Lens with SA Control. A walk-through tutorial with a comprehensive review for you. Let me know your thoughts as well.
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That softness is more like out of focus. I don’t think anyone would take a picture like that. Not sure how useful that feature would be for portrait photography. Thanks for showing first-hand how it works.
Awesome video, thanks! I ordered this lens last night, I cannot wait 😆
PS: your model is gorgeous! Those eyes 😵
I have done some experimentation and have found that setting the focus to manual and then adjusting the SA control, you can refocus on you main point of interest manually and then the foreground and background will be affected but the main part of the subject in the focal plain will be sharper. You can even enhance the sharpness using Topaz Phot AI.
Oooo nice tip
@@VanessaJoy indeed
Awesome tip mate thank you!!
Grabbed this lens last week and used it for a wedding. Great lens. Light and sharp.
Great video as always.
I have this lens, and I love it. Having seen what others have done with the SA control I won’t waste my time to try it.
Great information as always. As boring as it may have been, taking multiple photos with the change of the SA control was helpful. Will be picking this lens up in the future.
I have been pondering this for a minute
I think I am going to pull the trigger finally
I started using macro lenses for head shots with great success. I started with the Nikon 105 mm F2.8 macro and when I switched over to Sony I grab the 90 mm macro S2.8 as one of my first lenses to buy. They work great for school pictures that I do for the younger kids. Great for wedding detailed shots. But I learned as with any macro lens for portraits if they don’t have really good skin it’s gonna show every imperfection and make more work for you. I heard great things about this Canon macro lens. It’s cool how canon is thinking outside of the box with the SA control. Anymore you can’t go wrong with the new macro lenses that are coming out. Great video love seeing you collaborating with Ike
lol yea, macro AND 45MP is a recipe for "oh man I didn't realize her skin looked like that"
Hi
Ii 100 mm macrolens good for nikon z30
@@7or_7 i dont see why not. It will be about 140mm focal length and i use my 135mm for 90% of my outside portraits. And macro lenses are extremely sharp. So you can’t go wrong with it even on a Nikon Z 30.
This blurry sa is good for makeup photography where you want a blurry look so the sparkle eyeshadow are more visible and the vibe is really whimsical and angelic
thxxx for this!
Thx for watching ❤️
Congrats on the move!!!
AHHH so cool to see we shoot at some of the same places. I LOVE Asbury for portraits. Those giant windows are so good! fun fact - the guy who made that building you are in is the same architect who built Grand Central.
Awesome video as always! Funny to see @Photomeike assisting. lol
He’s awesome
Loved your review. From this video, I can’t see why one would use the SA control.
Cute how he says go to work to make money to buy nice things, great shots thanks for showing us looks a nice lens 😊
Purchased this lens today, saw Sal Cincotta's video with this lens and was very impressed. I'll use it for portrait, macro (nature), pet photography, objects etc. I purchased this lens because it's sharp & versatile and with the SA control it blurs the subject too much, so I doubt I'll be using it.
I have literally taken arrival of this macro an hour ago, and am pleased to understand what the SA control does. I can see from the few shots I have taken already that this is going to be a fun lens, and every apple, satsuma, and banana I buy will soon be the subject of this lens, for sure. Once again a great quality lens from Canon.
Haha perfect timing!
Hey Vanessa how did you do that soft focus thing?
Nice photography
This lens looks really interesting as a replacement to my EF mount Sigma 105 f1.4 (which I love) now that I have a R5. The adapter is a pain in the ass. I love the way the SA can change the shape and intensity of the bokeh. Thank you for sharing this.
Why do you think the adaptor is a pain in the rear end? I keep it more or less “permanently” on one of my EF lenses, and it works like a charm.
@@johnhoey4605 When you want to change lenses in a fast moving shoot, you have dismount the whole lot and then change the adaptor to the the new lens of choice, and then re-mount. It is a hassle. Sigma (lens of my choice) haven't done anything about RF mount lenses, perhaps political or financial. Best wishes.
Why not 1) get a few more adaptors, or 2) turn off camera, dismount lens only, mount different lens, turn on camera?
Juliana!!!! wowser. Hard to not get amazing photos from that starting point.
I would definitely pick it up as a portrait lens and for details in general. I don't think I would use the SA control, though. Too soft for my taste. 😄
I have found that if you close the aperture down a couple of stops you can you the SA control a bit more without it loosing subject focus. Still not sure I will use it my self but.
Nice tip!
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I am curious so the SA control throws off primary focus? Can you try refocusing and does it get sharper or is it just global softness so refocusing would have no impact on the foreground. To me seems the SA would have very limited use if it just makes everything softer like that.
My wife is Mexican & she says no to the “essé” control, too blurry...but she says she would be interested if they come out with a “vato” control!
Definitely gonna get it because of the price alone. I shoot mainly shoot with models who have dark skin so I really wanna see how the details change with a 100mm macro.
Love the video lasts
Hi Vanessa, great video , I want to ask what is you’re setup for TH-cam videos ?
in what way?
I picked this lens up in September and haven’t had a chance to use it much. The few shots I’ve taken on the R5 are incredibly sharp and I’m looking forward to using it more. I don’t think I’ll use the SA function and haven’t seen many reviews about it yet, but would like to see how people more creative and talented than me put it to use.
Yeah somehow there is still not super much in examples of greatly applied CA control out there...
This blurry sa is good for makeup photography where you want a blurry look so the sparkle eyeshadow are more visible and the vibe is really whimsical and angelic
2 years on, did you try iut the lens some more? I just picked it up and will mess with it
@@melankaya I actually just traded it in last month on the RF 70-200 2.8 because I only used it once. I always wanted to try macro but just never had the time for it.
@@kilohotel6750 ooooh and here I was looking for inspo
Thanks for sharing. Very beautiful..... i just realized that the only gear I need now is ....an assistant 😅
Hahaha
I managed to buy this lens almost as soon as it was made available; when I bought my R5, I simply had to have it. If there’s anyone out there who has taken more images with it than I, it would be shocking to me. Having said that, the SA function on my lens has been set to “neutral” from day-one. No interest at all in this feature.
I just shot 850 images for my friend's catalog with the macro. it's amazing.
That SA control is the most useless gimmick ever. It’s totally clear what they tried, copying the Defocus Control from epic Nikon lenses such as the AF DC-Nikkor 105 mm 1:2D. In that Nikkor lenses having it, it works perfectly. But in that RF 100 macro it’s a total failure. Dealbreaker. - I’d preferred they never added it but made the lens $ 400 cheaper, I would have purchased it immediately because of the x 1.4 magnification and the ultra fast AF. But I don’t pay a few hundreds extra for something I know for sure I never gonna use. I wished Canon had a version without that crappy SA and for that about 400 bucks less expensive.
The SA control looks to be too soft for my tastes for portraits, but for someone who does artsy fartsy type portraits it might be perfect. I remember back in the 80's I would stretch nylon stockings/panty hose over the lens, or even take a clear filter and smear some vaseline on it. This lens is definitely interesting otherwise and thanks for sharing the video with us.
hi, i like that lens, off topic i noticed your nail color matches Juliana eyes thank you for the video
Haha not planned
Love the strap, do you have link on what camera strap you are using? Thank you, been wanting to get this lens but 70-200 is my priority for now.
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Any focus shift issues with this lens that I've been hearing about?
You should have tried to put the subject in the sweet spot when your tried the new de focus ring because it moved the point of focus around your original point when the ring was at zero. Enjoyed your review though thanks
Your models eyes, gorgeous! 👀
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That SA thingy reminds me of the DC control (Defocus image Control) Nikon used on their older 105 and 135 dc f2 lenses. I'm sure Jared could tell you all about it!
If I remember correctly, the DF control on those D lenses worked with out of focus areas in the background or foreground and didn't effect the "in focus" area like this RF lens does with it's Gaussian side-effect, unless that is Canon's intention, idk.
@@artsilva because this is a spherical (it's in the name even) feature of the optics, the focus area should be dead center for SA. Also maybe require manual focus. DPreview got usable results. It seems the current video, with focus point off-center in sample pics, is not a very good review.
been looking at this lens for a week now and i might just pull the trigger,
also is your sons name Judah as well?? thats awesome
Haha it is! Lmk what you decide ☺️
Excellent video. Thanks very much! To confirm, if we want the subject to be in sharp focus, we should leave the SA control centered (zero’d), correct? This reminds me of an old EF 135 f2.8 Soft Focus lens I used to have. It was a neat feature at first, but then I hated it and never used it. The problem I think I’d have with the RF 100mm macro is I think the SA seems a bit gimmicky and not sure I’d use it, and don’t like paying for a feature I don’t want. I’ve ordered the RF 85 f2.0 macro instead and will try it.
Yeah it seems to be sharper at 0
I'm chomping at the bit to use this lens. Santa put it in her bag, and I can't touch it for another month! The EF 100 macro has been my most used lens. Can't wait to experience 1.4x, but wonder if it comes with a large loss of light. On the other hand, the new lens might give a longer working distance at 1.0x which would allow more options to light the subject. The new lens hood appears to be shorter, maybe that's to provide a shorter working distance for 1.4x. Hoping SA will give a new variety of looks to raindrops and speculars...maybe exposure blend a sharp subject onto an SA adjusted background...not too different from focus stacking, which is common in macro work. Maybe combine SA with small aperture to get starbursts of holiday lights, and add a fog machine for some godlight. I bet the SA softness effect is less pronounced at smaller macro work apertures where maybe the effect is stronger at the edges of the frame, and less at the center. Oooo I wish I never saw your video, because I'm going to be thinking all night about how to use this lens. Thanks Vanessa!
SA doesn’t flatter the otherwise very attractive model in this case , but that is only one use case. I could imagine other macro subjects & environment where it could possibly be useful but not for portraiture generally & only when the effect is purposely sort after .Nice video !
I am pretty sure the intention was never to use it for regular photos. It will actually only decrease image quality for portraits etc. I am pretty confident that the use case is for macro shots where you can change reflections, bokeh etc to fit your needs.
This blurry sa is good for portrait makeup photography where you want a blurry look so the sparkle eyeshadow are more visible and the vibe is really whimsical and angelic
Yes, I have this lens, it is fantastic for portraits. I tried the SA control ring shooting some rose bushes and was disappointed at the primary focus blur, it’s too strong to pass for soft focus, it just looks out of focus. I’m going to keep trying the SA on a variety of subjects, but so far no dice. But as a portrait lens and a macro lens this lens blows my mind, it’s now my primary lens (I have the 28-70, magic but very heavy).
I have this lens too, using this lens I haven't found useful for the SA control ring. I wonder if we take background bokeh and take photo of the person when set SA control ring to neutral and combine two images would that make it better for the effect (I'm yet to know how to combine photo in editing software yet)
@@kenhuang3820 yes, this would work. especially with the new software algorithms, I think the automatic features in the software could do a good job combining the images. probably would use a tripod for the best quality composite.
Will I get the same results with the EF lens?
I have this lens, I wanted to use It with my Canon R to take a self portrait, but I am not sure about a support - is it safe to put this lens on a tripod? I mean isn’t it too heavy? I am scared that it will fall away from my camera and broke. Should I use any special tripod for the lens support or is It not necessary?
Hi Vanessa, love your vids! I do wedding and portraits photography. I have an R6 with the Rf 28-70mm f2 and it stays there, but I've been trying to decide between this rf 100mm f2.8 macro and the Rf 70-200mm f4 for my b cam, an eos rp. Which one would you recommend for my distance shots? Thank you in advance!
I feel like you’d get the most difference from your existing setup with the 70-200
Thank you
Hi,thank you so much for your video,Please let me know your camera body is mirror less or DSLR. please let me know, Is SA control 100mm function comming for DSLR camera 100mm lencess
thank you
Mirrorless ☺️ the SA control is a lens function so it’ll work connected to any camera ☺️
Just picket up this lens for my EOS R5 now that it is being discounted by $200. Will see how it compares to the Nikkor Z MC 105mm f/2 VR S and the Sony 90mm f/2.8 G. I think it’s the fastest AF of the bunch which is nice if you plan to do portraits with it. Will see how MF is compared to the Sony with its MF clutch. Thank you for the video.
I think the sa control might help with softening the imperfections of the skin. I wouldn't go too far because it makes it look like it's out of focus, personally that's what I think. I haven't used this lens, but I'm about to purchase it.
Might do so but it will of course let you loose detail. I think the SA control is meant for macro where bokeh and effect are a completely different thing but its not meant for portraits etc.
Have you also come across any issue with focus shifting when you close down aperture?
nope
When you think Macro? you think Objects and Flowers insects etc? Thats where the SA comes in handy, I would not use it for portraits, and even if have to be at a slower aperture and maybe flash strobes, I own this lens and its pretty good specially for video... sharpness so dope
I really don’t get the usage of the SA control. That is the reason holding me back on buying this lens.
Would definitely used the lens. The SA Control i would never use though
Hi Vanessa!! Hmmm not too crazy when the SA is adjusted it also softens/blurs the models face. Anyway around this???
Not that I know of 😏
Have the EF version, one of the sharpest lenses I own, I probably wouldn't use the SA control, probably forget it was even there after awhile 👍🤣👍
I have ordered this lens for my work in Marco Iris Photography. I will update you with the results. as per this video it looks very promising and it will do the trick.
Nice!
Hey Vanessa. Would this be a good alternative to the 85mm f1.2? More versatile and less cost.
I would love to hear Vanessa’s thoughts on this also.
Hmmmm no. That 85 is just something special... I wouldn’t replace it with this
Yeah, I knew the SA control thing was a gimmick and not worth it at all way back when people first started talking about it. Wasn't excited at all. This further confirms it. More importantly, have you noticed any focus shift issues with this lens at higher apertures?
The thumbnail lol
Mine now has electrical tape to stop the ring from being moved, wish it had a lock on it, it moves far too easily as I found out to my cost. Other than that difficult to fault this lens.
EDIT: I have just discovered thanks to Justin Abbott th-cam.com/video/RqEsTbMelek/w-d-xo.html that there is a lock switch for the SA ring, YES! Hidden on the wrong side but hey you only need to switch it once.
Hidden? Wasn't it obviously placed on the outside of the lens and of course described in the manual etc ^^ I wonder how that can be missed. Especially when you usually look at the lens at least once in detail.
@@Seitenwerk oh it's Mr Perfect, he sits there looking at his lenses and reading the manuals. Us less than perfect put it straight on the camera and use it.
I'm genuinely confused as to what Canon thinks people will use the SA control for. It does change the background bokeh shape, but it also completely loses all detail in the subject. I can't really see a single application where that would be beneficial or even remotely acceptable. I have this lens and got it for product work, but I can't imagine a scenario where a completely soft focus on the subject would be desirable, regardless of what is happening in the background.
maybe....shooting a bokeh background layer for an image where the subject will be added in a layer later? I guess?
@@iancurrie8844 that’s such an obscenely obscure use case, you’re right that you could do that, but they wouldn’t develop a whole lens function around that
@@CalebKerr Yeah you're right. There really is no purpose for it.
Just bought!
Fun!!
Please I shoot mainly weddings and Portraits and I need a good telephoto lens for my shooting needs. Please should I go in the Canon ef 100mm f 2.8 L USM MACRO lens lens or Sigma 85mm 1.4 art len. Your advice is very much needed. Thanks
If your shooting needs are macro and portrait, go with the canon 100
@@VanessaJoy my shooting needs are strictly weddings and Portraits Please.
I wonder, WHAT if when you shift the SA control to minus then you got a blurry picture , so then you might tried with manual focus after you shift the SA control in order to avoid “the focus shift” while you use auto focus
Hmmmm maybe?
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It’s a beauty!
Vanessa please am a wedding photographer and would you recommend this lens for my shooting needs or I should go for 85mm for my shooting needs thank you.
this macro will do the close-up job that the 85 can't do
Love it, I made the purchase, but wasn’t sure I made the right choice. You broke it down for me, I think I made a good choice.
Great!!! Enjoy it ☺️
I have the canon R5 and currently own the EF 100mm macro, and the EF 100mm L macro, my question is this; How much does this RF 100mm macro improve in terms of image quality, over the EF Macro lenses, on the R5? I would really appreciate a response in the comments as I am unsure if the upgrade here is worth it? I am especially interested in image quality.
There’s a definite difference in clarity and quick focusing IMO. I did not personally upgrade however. I got the other RF glass first.
I'm not sure why you'd ever want the subject to be in soft focus like that so I'm not entirely sure about this feature. I wish there were a way to isolate the background
I agree
We did it all the time in the distant past when we all shot on film. They sold "soft focus" lenses for people who wanted to achieve that glowing ethereal wedding look. Of course, that was before lightroom and photoshop....
Are you taking from a Canon R3 camera?
Yes
Would you recommend ef or rf for canon rebel t7 body
EF - the RF version won’t mount to that camera
Is there a big difference between the RF100 MM micro lens and the RF 85 mm lens in terms of resolution, sharpness, and colors? Can I buy it as a replacement for the RF 85mm lens?
Which 85?
@@VanessaJoy Canon RF 85mm F1.2 L USM Lens
Vanessa in my book you're the Queen of all media platforms. I really enjoy all of your content. Lol. TikTok isn't even that old😄. I secretly hoped I would one day see you in New York just for the opportunity to ask, to carry your equipment. And then you moved to Austin😞. Keep doin what you're doin😇
Aw thx ☺️
Which reflector is this again?
Glow 5-in-1
Is this asbury park beach?
Yup!
I know your not a spots shooter but I’ve been stuck between the rf 100’m 2.8 and the 135 1.8, of course I’m still shooting portraits etc. I want the 100 because of the price but the 135 because it’s just a beautiful lens plus the 1.8…😭I’m sooooo stuck!!
Yeah I’d go with the 135 personally ☺️
Would this be a good lens to shoot product with specifically jewelry/semi precious stones etc. Does anyone know?
I am new to photography and in search of a lens that would make my jewelry look nice. I have a Canon camera (should be delivered today 10-19-23) Thank you Angel from The Bay
Yes definitely
Great lens, could of been made cheaper without the gimmick ring that nobody will ever use
I have seen so many bad examples on SA control function demonstration. This is essentially the same function Nikon DC lens. The minus adjustments are for background and plus adjustments are for foreground. All Vanessa portraits in this video have no foreground of course the plus adjustments did nothing but blurred main subject in focus, as well as making background more caustic.
Does the SA ring have a click at zero? If I buy this lens I think I’d gaffer tape the ring at zero. Don’t like the effect.
God I hope so. I just bought this lens. The SA control looks like it would ruin the images...
If you me one, I will definitely try.😂😂 Jokes apart I like your videos 🌚🌝
unconventional take but im deciding and wanting to try an r6 with the 100mm and another r6 with the 50mm 1.2. for wedding and event photography
Have fun!
I ordered and paid for this this lens (Canon RF 100mm Macro Lens) almost a year ago now and understand that I had to wait 6-months to get this lens but I still don't have the "Tripod Mount Ring and Adapter" yet and Canon has refused to comment to B&H for an update. I believe that to be unacceptable customer service and therefore can't recommend "Canon equipment" to anyone.
Yeah... are you aware what’s going on in the world, particularly electronics and camera gear?
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C'mon Vanessa, showing your kid while advertising... unfair, super unfair!!! Sooooooo cute!!!! Now I'm obliged to check out the sponsor. You give that superstar a big kiss and hugh from Santos family in Portugal!!!
Great job! Vanessa how to start cooperation with brands? do i need to become a youtuber? :)
it definitely helps to have an audience somewhere :-0
Wish they’d replace the 135mm f2 with an RF equivalent!
a 135 1.4 perhaps :) orrrr a 200 f2 RF that's lighter
Same!! I love the EF version of that lens!
Rumour has it that an RF135 f1.4 is coming.
@@daillengineer Wish they'd make another 200 f1.8. Had one...loved it. It really was 'The Eye of Sauron'.
I would not use the SA function. The tradeoff between rounder bokeh and a blurring of the subject is not worth it to me.
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Love the video Vanessa - whilst I get the macro lens vibe why on earth would you need a dial that fundamentally ruins a shot. Everything we're taught about how we see images is just waisted. My eye focussed (or not) upon a soft image and doesnt even consider the changing shape of the bokeh ? If it changed the shape of the bokeh whilst maintaining subject sharpness - then that's cool otherwise total waste of time !!
SA - no way. 1.4x macro - yes. Thanks.
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SD control is ridiculous. It's like a soft focus lens from the 80s when we shot on film. How absurd in today's world.
It’s quite strange when the photographer is more attractive than the motive… and for portrait aesthetics over all I start to love 50mm the most I guess and 85mm stays to be the convenient lens for keeping some distance to the model but 100mm compresses/flatten the face to much… but what am I saying I’m not even able to make happiness shots at all my photography focus just on the shittyness of things… love when you came to the it‘s up to your taste part of this ring of bokeh strangeness ;)
The 85 is one of my favs too ❤️
Good heavens Julia is scary gorgeous! Its not like she's the only beautiful lady in that video either😍
I compared this lens to the old EF 100mm F/2.8 macro, and..... Not much different apart of the useless SA function and £1000.
It's much sharper and has no CA at lower apertures. For me, that's worth it. The SA control is a pos though...Canon is out of touch.
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