Runestone Rediscovery December 2020
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- Just this week, a picture stone that was part of the massive Hunnestad runic monument in Sweden was rediscovered by accident after being lost for more than two hundred years.
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More information (in Swedish) and better looks at the newly uncovered stone at th-cam.com/video/SZy9HjjVEjc/w-d-xo.html (thanks to Kaisa Kyläkoski for the tip).
This discovery happened about 10 minutes from where I live, pleasantly surprised to see the cowboy viking himself make a video about it! Apparently the stone had been used as a foundation for a bridge.
Seems to happen a lot, using material heritage as building blocks for bridges or churches. Thanks christians for ruining our link the our real past.
That is interesting. Hmmm, sure why not.
Dr. Crawford, have you done a video about how it happened that the futhark *lost* letters? As I understand it, this is a really unusual occurrence in linguistics.
This video is probably the one you're looking for: th-cam.com/video/5kGSMYDz3dc/w-d-xo.html
He has! Unfortunately I can't remember the name of the video but probably something with younger futhark etc in the title.
However, as I'm sure he points out in the video, no one actually knows why the alphabet was changed so drastically, but it's nice to theorize anyway.
English lost the letter thorn. As in Y (þ). Now we write the diphthong ‘th’.
Where the heck to do you live?? That is gorgeous terrain behind you!!
Probably not the takeaway you're looking for your audience, but thanks for turning me onto I See Hawks In LA. Great band!
The original breaking news story (with video), where you can get a look at the newly uncovered stone still in the earth: www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/forsvunnen-runsten-hittad-efter-300-ar
Fascinating! My mom is from nothwestern Skåne so this piece of news was a little extra warming to my heart.
The reporter and man in work clothes speak lovely examples of the Skåne dialect. At 00:41 you’ll hear “Skåne” with local pronunciation.
Mr. Crawford drinks basement wizard tears for breakfast .
Not if the wizard has a level 42 shield🧙🏻♂️
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That's DOCTOR Mr. Crawford to you!
I actually live less than an hour from the Rök stone, the other runestone that Jackson mentioned. All kids in the county of Östergötland used to have go on a school trip to see it. It's the tallest runestone I've ever seen.
En wedig wodetrip te wökstenen med andra ord. 😊
@@Hin_Håle Aj, det där gjorde ont i mig att läsa. Fast det var lite kul också.
From Småland here; All kids in this region also went there, as well as the Alvastra ruins, and the Vadstena castle and monastery.
Kinda funny how i live 100 meters away and didn't know about this until an american talks 😅
WTF is a meter? 😃
@[][]HYPE2.0[][] what do you mean?
@@thomasmills3934 What in Gods name are you railing about? I imagine his comment was meant to be a light-hearted and facetious implication of the saturation of American Media. Light-hearted, since people usually come to TH-cam to, you know, have a good time. And speaking of zero appreciation of what’s right next to you, America has over 20,000 years of Pre-Colombian and colonial history. I would have added “you uneducated potato” but I don’t know you and potatoes are noble.
There’s plenty of room for you outside of the Platonic cave. We only ask that you be nice.
Did I just get homework at the end of this. If only my history teacher at school was this interesting haha
Just discovered my boss from my last job (I’m a Norwegian museum curator) was one of your first students, way back! She had no idea you had a TH-cam channel now. In addition, one of my still-studying American friends have just had your Edda translation put on her curriculum for next semester. Great to see the channel still going strong, funny how the historical and paleolinguistic communities intersect across borders.
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I've been transcribing and rediscovering the Elder Futhark this week, and now this video?
Happy Yule and Merry Christmas to all.
I'm glad to have finally found someone that can provide reliable content on the subject. I have had such a hard time finding information that any experts can recommend.
"Hoggorm" is still the Norwegian word for the European viper, the only venomous snake in the country.
Basement wizards and witches lol.
Your backgrounds though!!!! Love your vids and info. Thank you for the time and dedication.
Thanks for the background info on this find. I saw the news yesterday, and wondered if you would comment on it. And sure enough!
I was so excited when they found the picture stone this week! And I really appreciate that you made a video about it. Many thanks from a Swedish viking reenactor.
I guess the one downvote is someone with an ægishjelm tattoo and no sense of humour :)
Imagine being some worker digging for a sewer line and you discover a piece of medieval artwork.
While lm probably one of those "basement witches & wizards" lol, l love your expertise and support you on patreon. Please know you are so appreciated 💗
I am not a basement witch, because I have no basement. I am more of a kitchen and living room witch 🧙♀️ As someone who is studying runes, I also appreciate the scholarly research and am a Patreon supporter.
Very interesting video, as always.
At 2:10 Chemtrail carving a rune of evil in the sky.
Not poisonius worms, surely?. ”Hoggorm” sounds alot like a real word for Scandinavias only poisonius snake, in Sweden called ”huggorm”. A direct translation would be ”strike/chop-snake”. Maybe ”orm” comes from ”worm”, sure, but as you said earlier, the picture shows a woman with snakes, not worms, and in the prose edda it saus ”orm”, which is the word we use today.
4:23 good caption lmao
Iscelmer, not AEgishjalmur.
That is really interesting! Amazing that we have previous artwork to put the stone in context, what a find.
Cool to see this brought up on your channel. I live nearby in Skåne 🙂
I'm so amused by the specific snake in the second example of the "snakes for reins". The pronunciation has barley changed in modern Swedish, the spelling has changed a bit. Unless the name implied any poisonous snakes, that's a common (European) adder/viper. I couldn't help it, I burst out laughing when you said hoggorm because it was so familiar. Thank you for this video.
Greetings from southern Sweden, keep up the good work!
Takk for alle gode leksjoner :-) God jul ! (I recond you understand what I wrote :-) )
This is so fascinating! Thank you for sharing.
Incredible that anything from the site was (re-)discovered anyway! You are the first one I could learn this from. So curious about what was actually going on on that site with so many picture stones in close proximity.
@Ginnungagap I bet! Big news here as well! Are there plans for revisiting the site for additional excavations?
In Richard Scarry's children books, there's a character called Lowly Worm.
In the danish translation his name is Ole Orm.
Apropos Ole Worm.
Super cool video. Thanks for being so comprehensive about the history and content of the stones.
You think YOU have an uphill battle? Dude I've spent ten years in the fitness industry. Seaweed wraps, no carb diets, sauna and steam rooms, grapefruit diet, thermogenic supplements, protein shakes, raspberry keytones, fasting cardio... ugh. Lets just talk Hunnestad. lol.
I'm not saying that it's the case here, but are there examples of the later addition of carved motifs (like the Christian cross) that reflect social changes?
It's nice to have some good news for a change 🙂
whoever is the 1 person who downvoted this, wtf is wrong with you?
Watching from Lakewood, CO!
Awesome to get cultural news of my country thru Your channel Jackson. Very happy to subscribe to your great content. I like Your pronunciation of Skåne :) both with and without the accent of skånska.
nice and cool. good thing i want to study this lol
How weird that I listen to an american about my local cultural history. But such is life, with the basement wizards and all.
That opening shot mate! Bloody beautiful!
Professor Crawford, in regards to the picture stones, using Markussen's book "The Anatomy of Viking Art", these stones look to be of the Ringerike style (c. 1000 - 1075).
found in my county, hope to be able to see it some day if it’s ever on display!
Sound like grave stones. Did they ever claim a place, like sticking a flag on land does these days?
Depends.
It seems to me as if most stones were monuments with the not so discrete message "This is the territory where the prominent family X lived and lives."
Raising a rune stone signified wealth and (the Norse version of) nobility.
A rune stone was a message into the future, and (probably) a source of pride for all the people distantly related to the prominent forefather.
Cool find, always good to see when heritage is rediscovered.
More like Skeaune, but close.
I love how he stumbles over trying to diplomatically describe the books we might have read if we’ve only heard of the elder futhark!
😂 ....we all know what you mean! 😂
I’m sure it will never happen, but I would LOVE to see Jackson Crawford break-down/react-to the works of another academic, in runology specifically, who either wrote or inspired most of these books (he wrote on the younger futhark too, tbf). ...not his popular books, but maybe his dissertation.
Air is dry where your at
Thank you for all your videos on Old Norse! But surely ”huggorm” must translate to viper? In the video you say ”poisonous worm”, but in the earlier text about the trollkonu you translate ”orma” to snake. (Today we say huggorm for viper in Swedish.)
Wikipedia says all vipers are poisonous and other sources say the only poisonous snake found in nature in Sweden is the adder, a member of the family Viperidae. So perhaps the good doctor translated "huggorm" as "poisonous worm" to insure that any of his viewers who are not familiar with the nature and distribution of Viperidae would appreciate the implications of using such animals as reins.
I Denmark "hugorm" refers to a specific snake that live in nature here. It is poisonous but it is not a very strong poison.
Awesome sauce.
Hello everyone! I have a question and, if anyone is willing to, I would like some help with it.
I would like to know how the letter /y/ could be represented by a rune in the Elder Futhark alphabet. This doubt exists due to I have been seeing more than one way to represent it and I don't know which applies better, or correct on the case.
For exemple the word "Wyrd", I have seen in these ways:
1) ᚹᛃᚱᛞ
2) ᚹᛁᚱᛞ
3) ᚹᚢᚱᛞ
Again, I'm speaking of the Elder Futhark. Does any of these forms above is wrong? Which would be the correct? There are more than one correct (or none at all)?
If anyone could help, I would be grateful
How many are there?
I really need a t-shirt with her on it.
They should have made Jackson Crawford an NPC in RDR2.
I wonder if, in your internet travels, you have ever come across Angela Puca? She recently earned her PhD in the Anthropology of Religion and has a TH-cam channel where she discusses such. She leans more towards the magical side of the street than you I think but it might be an interesting Avenue of discussion to pursue. I am sure she’d be interested in tapping into your knowledge of the Norse mythos.
Her channel is Angela’s Symposium. I should note that she is Italian and her accent is still quite strong despite spending quite a while over here in England (she teaches at Leeds University) so be ready for that :).
Hunnestad - Outside north of Ystad not far away from Marsvinsholm. 15 min from were I live.
A funfact about the word 'gygr' is that in the Norwegian translations of Harry Potter, the name Hagrid is translated as Gygrid, since he's a half giant.
Hey! I don't have the Ægishjálmur tattoo! (Loved the joke.)
Thank you SO much for all of your videos. I could sit for hours discussing them with you!
I was wary to click this one, after your April fools day Heimdallr shenanigans.
That picture stone looks like some kind of snake goddess; either entering the wolfs mouth or the wolf is licking her snake shell... haha I don't know.
Yeey Skåne(Skaune😋) now we will rule the earth with an iron fist!😎😅
I think the stylization in ancient art of plants and animals is indicative of interbred or hybridized
Could the woman figure be angraboda
Amazing.
These two stones present quite a sad story when you think about it.
I see a wolf trying to eat a giant squid.
Interesting that they actually use not only the word "snake" but a certain species of snakes "hoggorm/huggorm" (Common European Viper).
That also hints at how locally originated these stories are.
you mean orm, poisonous snakes were called lindormar not huggormar until Carl von Linné and his work naming all species of all mamals, birds and reptiles and plants in both a specific name and in latin so all scholars could read the right species.
Lol I know someone with that tattot
I don’t see a face on that lost stone
Missing the video of this
Very cool.
Are the any story's about Fenrir
Apart from the conception, raising, binding and ultimate end of Fenrir, no. Not as far as I'm aware.
Thank you
@@christopherhubbard3597
Sorry for the tone of my previous reply. I really did not mean it as perhaps it reads... The stories are all quite brief and not very illuminating, so with our modern idea of stories (as never ending, chracter driven, parts in a greater narrative, like Marvel's universe) there really isn't that much.
What there is can be found in the Eddas.
@@Erkynar thank you I'm writing a story .And I needed most info. On Fenrir. Thank you for your videos they've helped me out a lot
Viking art reminds me of Scythian are personally.
Perhaps an old link? 🤔
@@ThePillen 100% Germanics and some Celts have direct Scythian connection. Germanics through the Goths as well.
Seems right
@@zaciroth Beaker bell culture and corded ware culture. Back before the bronze age, google it and see a geographical map of where they lived and you will see that, celts, gauls, frisians, angles, saxons, danes, suevi/swedes, goths, jutes, gutes, norse, greuthungi, thervingians, scythians and on and on were kinda the same origin culture spread out in tribes living and making their own kingdoms, during bronze age and early iron age the vendel period the people thrived and traded with rome some were under oppression, some served as mercenaries, copper and tin were no shortage thx to trade with amber and pelts/furs and master craftsmanship with metals the romans never conquered scandinavia or north europe, they traded and hired them as mercenaries.
the tribes far south were though subjugated to being under occupation and forced slave labour or servitude to rome. Iron age the North where thriving look at their armor from vendel period compared to early viking age. Because of a small ice age that caused long winters crops to fail and starvation that also probably affected rome both west and east, before the germanic/celtic tribes and huns and slavs crushed the western empire for payback to their tribesmen families and allies. While Byzantinum were later flourishing thx to viking trade.
4:22 Definitely a UFO.
Im not saying its Aliens but you know..
Is the Old orse more like the language the Faroese people speak? Just wondering.
Yes and Icelandic. Slightly different, but as close as you can get with any modern day scandinavian language. Skål
@@chuckfriebe843 That's the reason why I am learning Icelandic. And because I want to read the original Edda with nothing lost in translation. :-D
@Shades 1.1 of course it's "more complicated" than just saying it's like Icelandic, duh. He asked what's closest to old Norse and I answered him correctly. There have been many many changes throughout history, but would you say Danish, swedish, or Norwegian is closest? Of course not because they aren't. I never said Icelandic was exactly the same as old Norse, but it IS the closest by modern standards.
@Shades 1.1 dude it is, it's the 'closest' unless you can find a language that is closer (living language)
i'm icelandic and at least when it comes to the old sagas, i can understand at least 90%-95% of them