What’s inside the Fluance RT80?

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  • @xaenon
    @xaenon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Regarding your platter spindle:
    I know this seems to go against common sense, but when you turn the spindle by hand, without the platter installed, it should NOT 'free spin'. You should be able to turn it easily, and there should be some very slight resistance, with a 'viscous' sort of feel. Like I said, it seems to go against common sense, but it should behave exactly as it did in the video.
    That 'viscous feel' I mentioned is exactly that - the lubrication and the bearing inside, combined with the very low mass of the spindle itself.
    The important thing is that with the platter installed (belt NOT installed), you should be able to spin it easily and it should take some time to coast to a stop. And there should be no side-to-side wobble or noise.
    At the tone arm pivot, you identified the signal wires from the cartridge. The other PCB is for the sensors that switch the platter motor on and off depending on the position of the tone arm.
    The motor control circuit looks basically the same as the circuit used in portables and entry-level models like the LP60, just built outside the motor housing. I'm betting that with a few minor tweaks, this turntable could be modded for 78 rpm.
    The Sankyo motor is doubtlessly of somewhat higher quality than what you'd find in a Crosley or similar.
    I LOVE these teardown videos. Keep up the good work!

    • @Recordology
      @Recordology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Awesome thank you so much!!!!!😎😎😎😎😎

    • @stefanegger
      @stefanegger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      10:45 - the motor says SANKO, not SANK-Y-O. SANK-Y-O is a known brand, SANKO is nothing I ever head of.

    • @Rekmeyata
      @Rekmeyata 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bet it is a Chinese knockoff of the SANK-Y-O which is why you never heard of it, which is why I'm won't buy this turntable!

  • @jonsymmonds1120
    @jonsymmonds1120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thank you for the review. I am so thankful I held on to my old 1970's-1980's era series of direct drive turntables made by Technics. They are tanks and were used for NONSTOP operation in most radio stations from the late 1970's up until about the middle 1990's. I rescued all of mine mainly in the mid 1990's. I had to do little to get them going going again. They have been running ever since. Two of the turntables I own, were on the air 24/7 in a radio station running live jocks for about 10 years. I know, I was one of those jocks. We used Stanton Cartridges, 500 series with a conical tip so we could "Back Cue" the records. The old turntables used in the 1970-1980's could bring back a record maybe an a quarter turn
    and make music history!

  • @DetroitStars
    @DetroitStars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Get yourself an old ice cube tray to hold and organize screws and parts when taking apart electronic items.

    • @Recordology
      @Recordology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s a good idea 👍

  • @thinlizzysupporter
    @thinlizzysupporter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I installed one of those AT91 cartridges into a vintage direct drive JVC turntable that I purchased from a marketplace seller. I was really pleased with the result, I do like a neutral sounding cartridge and tend to favour the Audio Technica models these days after having tried various Goldring, Ortofon, Grado, Shure etc cartridges over the years. I think the additional pcb in the tonearm assembly will be for the auto stop function. Enjoyable video.

  • @crisjr6478
    @crisjr6478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the inside of a turntable I consider less is more. Simple clean layout no extras just everything needed for good quality music.

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, the marble background has it's own style, so this is fine by me 👍
    Shure doesn't make cartridges anymore, so you'd need to get Jico aftermarket styli.
    I would shy away from products that are fully discontinued.
    5:25 Almost looks like the screw on the right is missing!
    5:55 I would recommend to take off the counterweight as well, to reduce forces on the tonearm bearings.
    9:38 The spindle is grounded and makes contact with the platter, so that's grounded as well.
    The grounded platter is basically shielding to prevent electrical noise (RFI) coming from the motor and getting into the cartridge.
    Plenty manufacturers don't do that, that's why you come across people with complaints about hum from time to time.
    These details are what brands like Fluance sets their turntables apart from the rest.
    15:50 Looks like a tonearm position sensor... but why? That Fluance is fully manual, isn't it?

    • @JoeOrber
      @JoeOrber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The tonearm position sensor should be for the auto-stop feature, there's a switch in the back to enable or disable that feature

  • @activexp
    @activexp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have an RT80 with an AT VM540ML. Sounds superb.

  • @leonardblush2557
    @leonardblush2557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RT80 vs LP3?
    I wonder how long Fluance can keep prices as they are, as everyone else seems to have raised theirs.

  • @stefanegger
    @stefanegger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:05 - yes it says DGND for "digital ground". Digital and analog is seperated, because of the different nature of how those signals work. Mostly DGND and AGND (analog) is put together in one point only to form the common Ground (GND). That is better than to mix it up, as it may influence each other (IC is high speed switching etc. while analog is analog wave forms)

  • @Ascania
    @Ascania 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The SEN2 board contains a position sensor for the arm.

  • @jeremy_h
    @jeremy_h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm betting the RT80 and RT81 are exactly the same inside, and that 'T' of glue holds the extra MDF that makes up the weight difference between the 80 and 81. That would be the perfect place to stick it.

  • @SQDLVR
    @SQDLVR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Mr. Record-ology. Got a question for you. My Music Hall MM 2.1 has finally conked out after 22 years (2003 bought new) and was wondering if the Fluance RT 81 is any good? Also does it have any speed inconsistencies like a bunch of the reviewers in Amazon are saying? That kind has me double thinking before I pull the trigger. Trying not to break the bank especially during these times and need a good turntable under or at least in the $500 range. Totally value your opinion

  • @bradygiltz5160
    @bradygiltz5160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you think u-orbit and fluance turntables are worth their value? Or do you think their is a better value like old or new

    • @Recordology
      @Recordology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I personally like a new Turntable if I can afford one… I’m not as obsessed with vintage turntable that some people are… Both of those are good units

  • @yuriykorotkevych8838
    @yuriykorotkevych8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was interesting to look inside the unit. Btw, check soldering on the first board shown in the video, the switch one. One of the joints looks like it may have a crack. As to the motor, Sanko and Sankyo are different manufacturers, and it seems that Sankyo doesn't produce motors for audio equipment any more, unfortunately.

    • @johnlouis3873
      @johnlouis3873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's right. Sankyo came out as a cheap replica of Sanyo. The company Sanko as you say are different manufacturers.

    • @richardhalliday6469
      @richardhalliday6469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That dry joint needs touching up

  • @pinballKing012
    @pinballKing012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Be nice to see inside an ATLP120X. I have one but not game to open it up...

  • @ralphhoskins2115
    @ralphhoskins2115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not much going on inside this one buddy.... those manual turntables...just bare bones..... the ground on the spindle is for static on your records ... keeps it from making loud pops... through your amplifier... great vid as usual...

  • @ayedee6681
    @ayedee6681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just goes to show, you can build a cheap turntable with good components.

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that similar to the Project Carbon Turntable but maybe in a few years I will go after a REVOX B975.

  • @TBNTX
    @TBNTX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I had one gripe about any of the Fluance turntables, it's the lifter lever. It's just so wimpy. I'd prefer a sturdier lifting lever.
    I own the RT85, but it's the same story. Wimpy lifting lever.

    • @Wolfpack-N
      @Wolfpack-N 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does feel wimpy but not like it would break under nonral use since it doesn't have to do any heavy lifting.

  • @AndrewWatson64
    @AndrewWatson64 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aren't those other wires at the tonearm to control the auto stop function?

  • @hectorquinones1999
    @hectorquinones1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice looking turntable

  • @sorachi295
    @sorachi295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What speakers go well with this turntable? Is the Klipstch RP-600M good with this and if so, do I need an amplifier for them?

  • @stefanegger
    @stefanegger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:50 - broken solder joint, but probably for mounting and not for a signal, still not a very good sign on a new product.

  • @nickbitten9910
    @nickbitten9910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video. Think I would be scared to take my stuff apart ( bit like the flat-pack scenario ). Know what you mean about storage space for audio and music - a juggling act ( and negotiations with my wife). Keep smiling y'all

  • @troyarmatti7167
    @troyarmatti7167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    maybe the ground is for the built in pre amp.

  • @shonstewart4957
    @shonstewart4957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anybody awesome video is always did you manage to get it back together I was thinking to myself why would you take something apart that was totally working I've been that before but ended up wrecking the item because I am not good at putting things together very interesting to see the inside I always love stuff like that I have no idea what I'm looking at other then electronics sorry I couldn't be of more help I'm not electronically inclined I like to use them but that's about it. Take care of yourself

    • @Recordology
      @Recordology  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was able to get it back together in perfect working order! That was a major win for me lol!

  • @axeami1354
    @axeami1354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    to me the sen 2 board looks like the auto stop sensor, mighty odd that they've chosen to use a optical sensor instead of a simple switch.

  • @yamilestrada4203
    @yamilestrada4203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HEY MAN INSIGNIA MADE THERE OWN TURNTABLE

  • @plan7a
    @plan7a 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's more of a 'fact finding mission' perhaps? One for everyone. Just a thought. :D

  • @mauritsvw
    @mauritsvw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It uses a Sanko motor, not Sankyo.

  • @kevinpatrickmacnutt
    @kevinpatrickmacnutt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is nothing there because as a fully manual turntable there is not much needed. Most of what fills up an automatic turntable or an old changer is mechanical bits, electronically they are very simple.

  • @l.t.w8985
    @l.t.w8985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite movie woohoo

  • @iam.miikey
    @iam.miikey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cheap…

  • @normalnate3447
    @normalnate3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Noice