Do I want a JPC? No. Did I search for the term JPC? No. Did I see a man in graduation garb and tactical gear in the frame? Yes. It worked, even if you didn't intend for it to. Good vid, keep em coming.
The argument of "it's a 'jumpable' plate carrier so don't buy it unless you're jumping out of airplanes" is kind of a moot point. People often say this to try and sound smart when it really doesn't actually fucking matter. I carry my 19x on me every day, but I've never shot anyone so I guess I should just not carry my gun then? I wear an ankle ifak and while I've only had to use it once for a woman.... coming up on 5 years ago... I guess that means I shouldn't carry that either. Your issues with ride height could easily be fixed if you spent literally like 5 minutes adjusting the shoulder straps for a proper fitment. While I just use an AVS nowadays, I still have a jpc as a backup and have gone through ... 2 of them in the past, one of which I gave to a buddy. The hypalon for the shoulder straps are definitely a weak point and the only issue I've had with them in the past. I would ruck and swim with my jpc daily, and I did eventually get a small tear which then completely failed shortly after, however, people do make covers specifically for that. I can't remember any in particular, it was just always some random dude I saw in crye facebook groups that made them. But from what I know of people who've had those covers, they work like you'd imagine. That said, if you want a jpc go fucking get it. It's legitimately a great plate carrier, just don't load it down with a SHIT ton of weight (When I mean a shit ton, I mean I ran it with a standard load of 4 rifle, 2 pistol, a gp pouch which had nods, another gp that I carried a compass and little admin shit, I had the crye zip on molle back panel that I would store my bladder in... and it's fine. I think my jpc would come in with plates around 10-15lbs depending on water, w/ plates obv. It's been a few years so I can't really recall exactly how much it used to weigh. But that is TOTALLY fine and really, you don't need much more than that if you really want a plate carrier you can fucking load up on, that is the only time I would reccomend you go with something else. And just like my AVS, I had to spend the time to actually get the ride height correct. Then I spent more time adjusting pouches because of the harness. The point is, you need to actually put in the time to make sure it fits you and then you want to spend time to actually using your kit. Because something that might look good, might actually be completely unusable or just really ineffecient. Spend the time actually setting your shit up correctly instead of just throwing it together and saying "good enough" then whine when it's not done properly. Also, anyone giving you shit about wearing a jpc because you're not jumping out of a plane is a fucking idiot and you have literally no reason to listen to them and should basically ignore pretty much everything they say because chances are they also probably think 22 bounces around inside the head and "i support the 2nd amendment but.....". At the end of the day it's a fucking plate carrier and it's JOB is to hold plates and allow you to put shit on it that you need. Does the JPC do that? Yes, it fucking does.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 he literally summed up your point perfectly. Also you had only like two points. 1. It was too big and 2 it’s for jumping. You took an hour to explain that and the first problem is solved by literally just taking the time to fucking adjust it. The second point. Doesn’t matter. You’re just able to jump with it. You don’t have to.
This hits a common point I try to make re: gear, and that's that there is a world of difference between what makes sense for a huge organization like the US military to issue and what makes sense for an individual who isn't inherently backed up by the largest logistics engine the world has ever known. Different requirements for different situations.
Even at smaller scales, individual requirements are often unique, so there only being a single default suggestion that's so bad across the general population spectrum is crippling the community.
I'm glad I found this video before cryeing once. For the past few weeks I had been searching for a new plate carrier to replace my poor choices when I bought most of my civilian gear from what was available and with my low budget circa 2010 (condor garbage). It came down to the JPC 2.0 and the FCPC v5 and I chose the fcpc. I'll be reading your articles for sure now. Glad I found your channel as your opinions make a fuck ton of sense with data to back it up.
Really appreciate the actual in depth explanation of these and how they work there much more of analytical analysis of these and then your opinions rather than someone trying to sell me on something.
Fantastic video as always Nico. I was considering a JPC as a backup plate carrier because everyone recommended (told) me so. This video definitely was definitely an eye opener. I'm around the same build and height as you so the JPC 2.0 is most definitely going to hang low for me. The straps will likely be off my shoulders as well since I have lost weight and I'm on the skinny side. Most tact kit companies cater plate carriers, chest rigs and uniforms based off individuals who are 6'1, stocky and superman build. I had the same problem with the Platatac Peacekeeper mk4 chest rig. The straps was position and angled wider than the front (flaring out). As a result it looks like I'm wearing a double size too big bra/corset with the adjustment tightened to its fullest. Maybe I will try my luck with Spiritus systems. I have heard the lv119 fits perfect with skinny and average dudes.
So while the LV119 doesn't have the stanced shoulder straps issue that the JPC does, I've always found that it fits like an IOTV, without the soft armor that forces the IOTV to fit that way. I'll get to it eventually, possibly maybe- look at my production rate lol- but it's definitely another one with some issues. That said, it's an incredibly well thought out carrier with great quality and fantastic internal features like cable routing etc, but if you're not using them, that's sort of irrelevant.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 I hate LV119, shoulder straps are awfully designed, inner part pushes against my neck and on the clavicles, I carry a lot on my JPC and it's the most comfortable carrier I have ever worn
So, just looking at you wearing the medium JPC 2.0 I can tell right away you do not have your shoulder straps adjusted properly. I am pretty small build but have a 2.0 in medium and it fits perfectly. I did have to adjust the shoulder straps substantially, but it has plenty of clearance for me to draw from my belt
I could probably tighten it down some more, but I try to keep the adjustment within the limits of the included parts- no cutting and melting ends, and, for this one, no folding the triangles under the included shoulder wraps. You can do it, obviously, but I'm trying to look at the design instead of the mods and ways people make it work. Especially remembering back when everything was "one-size-fits-all" meaning extra-large, I'm cranky about it, hah.
U got any pics of u wearing? Just so i can compare to mine. I feel like mines a lil low in the rear. Plus j feel like the shoulders take up too much room for my buttstock had to swap my b5 for a magpul sl-m
Thankfully the Crye SPC has fixed the low plate bag issues with it's cumberbund being mounted differently. The WTFIdea plate carrier 24 and Shaw Concepts ARC even adopted certain aspects of it. I look forward to your review of the SPC.
Y'know you're the first person I've heard actually articulate a real difference in the SPC in a way that makes me genuinely interested to try one. I may have to wrangle myself some small plates to do it properly though.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 I spent a whole ass year waiting for one to pop up on a good deal and not super price gouged since they're OOS literally everywhere. But I'm glad I finally did. It's an upgrade on the JPC in every conceivable way.
Personally, I recommend the Warrior Assault DCS plate carrier over the JPC. The reasons is it has mesh padding for comfort and breathability, being NIR Compliant, good quality from our friends across the pond of the UK, and comes with side pouches and radio pouch
You are attaching the AVS front flap incorrectly. The straps need to be tucked inside the plate bag. There is a velcro hook field on the inside. this way the cummerband has no chance to pull the starps off, when doffing.
A ton of the problems you have with the carrier are because you’re too small for the medium carrier. Why do you think it hangs low? I got mine to hang correct. Also a plate carrier hanging lower has no purpose. It’s not easier to jump in. It’s called a jumpable plate carrier because of its low profile. You’re just simply too small for the medium. That’s it. You complain it’s bad because it fits too big and loose. That’s because…. It’s too big for you 😂
Yes, and unlike other carriers on the market, it has a more specific size that it's built around fitting, and since Medium is similar to the common (and cheap) 10x12 plates, it's something to consider versus it being an automatic choice. I like the small JPC, which did fit well, but if you don't have CIF to trade plate sizes out at, checking those sizes can get expensive and slow.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 it can fit the same plates any other medium plate carrier can. Even a small 2.0 can fit a 10x12 with some time. The carrier is fine. You just refused to adjust it to you properly. It’s not a niche carrier. It’s one of the most versatile plate carriers in existence. Your video made 0 sense
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 I don't understand Amercians who run small plates which do not protect shit, bare minimum are 10x12 but they are very small too, shots come from angles too
@@simonriley8057 plates are made to fit a specific area of the torso but a lot of people are convinced they are special and that their torso will somehow conform itself to the plate's shape and coverage and it'll 100% work if they need it to.
It's coming, I'm planning on talking about other ones before I get to that, but a certain plate carrier out there may make me accelerate that schedule. More importantly, gotta finish paying for this move and start working again.
Do I want a JPC? No.
Did I search for the term JPC? No.
Did I see a man in graduation garb and tactical gear in the frame? Yes.
It worked, even if you didn't intend for it to. Good vid, keep em coming.
The argument of "it's a 'jumpable' plate carrier so don't buy it unless you're jumping out of airplanes" is kind of a moot point. People often say this to try and sound smart when it really doesn't actually fucking matter. I carry my 19x on me every day, but I've never shot anyone so I guess I should just not carry my gun then? I wear an ankle ifak and while I've only had to use it once for a woman.... coming up on 5 years ago... I guess that means I shouldn't carry that either. Your issues with ride height could easily be fixed if you spent literally like 5 minutes adjusting the shoulder straps for a proper fitment. While I just use an AVS nowadays, I still have a jpc as a backup and have gone through ... 2 of them in the past, one of which I gave to a buddy. The hypalon for the shoulder straps are definitely a weak point and the only issue I've had with them in the past.
I would ruck and swim with my jpc daily, and I did eventually get a small tear which then completely failed shortly after, however, people do make covers specifically for that. I can't remember any in particular, it was just always some random dude I saw in crye facebook groups that made them. But from what I know of people who've had those covers, they work like you'd imagine. That said, if you want a jpc go fucking get it. It's legitimately a great plate carrier, just don't load it down with a SHIT ton of weight (When I mean a shit ton, I mean I ran it with a standard load of 4 rifle, 2 pistol, a gp pouch which had nods, another gp that I carried a compass and little admin shit, I had the crye zip on molle back panel that I would store my bladder in... and it's fine. I think my jpc would come in with plates around 10-15lbs depending on water, w/ plates obv. It's been a few years so I can't really recall exactly how much it used to weigh. But that is TOTALLY fine and really, you don't need much more than that if you really want a plate carrier you can fucking load up on, that is the only time I would reccomend you go with something else.
And just like my AVS, I had to spend the time to actually get the ride height correct. Then I spent more time adjusting pouches because of the harness. The point is, you need to actually put in the time to make sure it fits you and then you want to spend time to actually using your kit. Because something that might look good, might actually be completely unusable or just really ineffecient. Spend the time actually setting your shit up correctly instead of just throwing it together and saying "good enough" then whine when it's not done properly.
Also, anyone giving you shit about wearing a jpc because you're not jumping out of a plane is a fucking idiot and you have literally no reason to listen to them and should basically ignore pretty much everything they say because chances are they also probably think 22 bounces around inside the head and "i support the 2nd amendment but.....". At the end of the day it's a fucking plate carrier and it's JOB is to hold plates and allow you to put shit on it that you need. Does the JPC do that? Yes, it fucking does.
Tell me you didn't watch the whole video without telling me you didn't watch the whole video.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 It's an hour long video that could be summed up in like 5 minutes. Even watching it at 2x speed wasn't worth it.
@@RprtBak bruh.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 he literally summed up your point perfectly. Also you had only like two points. 1. It was too big and 2 it’s for jumping. You took an hour to explain that and the first problem is solved by literally just taking the time to fucking adjust it. The second point. Doesn’t matter. You’re just able to jump with it. You don’t have to.
Spent a few minutes adjusting mine. Fits as intended.
This hits a common point I try to make re: gear, and that's that there is a world of difference between what makes sense for a huge organization like the US military to issue and what makes sense for an individual who isn't inherently backed up by the largest logistics engine the world has ever known. Different requirements for different situations.
also cool hat bro
Even at smaller scales, individual requirements are often unique, so there only being a single default suggestion that's so bad across the general population spectrum is crippling the community.
I'm glad I found this video before cryeing once. For the past few weeks I had been searching for a new plate carrier to replace my poor choices when I bought most of my civilian gear from what was available and with my low budget circa 2010 (condor garbage). It came down to the JPC 2.0 and the FCPC v5 and I chose the fcpc. I'll be reading your articles for sure now. Glad I found your channel as your opinions make a fuck ton of sense with data to back it up.
5:27 love the subtle whispers
Yeah that's all profanity as I'm getting everything ready.
Proud of you and totally not gay for you in any way
Really appreciate the actual in depth explanation of these and how they work there much more of analytical analysis of these and then your opinions rather than someone trying to sell me on something.
Fantastic video as always Nico.
I was considering a JPC as a backup plate carrier because everyone recommended (told) me so. This video definitely was definitely an eye opener. I'm around the same build and height as you so the JPC 2.0 is most definitely going to hang low for me. The straps will likely be off my shoulders as well since I have lost weight and I'm on the skinny side.
Most tact kit companies cater plate carriers, chest rigs and uniforms based off individuals who are 6'1, stocky and superman build. I had the same problem with the Platatac Peacekeeper mk4 chest rig. The straps was position and angled wider than the front (flaring out). As a result it looks like I'm wearing a double size too big bra/corset with the adjustment tightened to its fullest.
Maybe I will try my luck with Spiritus systems. I have heard the lv119 fits perfect with skinny and average dudes.
So while the LV119 doesn't have the stanced shoulder straps issue that the JPC does, I've always found that it fits like an IOTV, without the soft armor that forces the IOTV to fit that way. I'll get to it eventually, possibly maybe- look at my production rate lol- but it's definitely another one with some issues. That said, it's an incredibly well thought out carrier with great quality and fantastic internal features like cable routing etc, but if you're not using them, that's sort of irrelevant.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 I hate LV119, shoulder straps are awfully designed, inner part pushes against my neck and on the clavicles, I carry a lot on my JPC and it's the most comfortable carrier I have ever worn
So, just looking at you wearing the medium JPC 2.0 I can tell right away you do not have your shoulder straps adjusted properly.
I am pretty small build but have a 2.0 in medium and it fits perfectly. I did have to adjust the shoulder straps substantially, but it has plenty of clearance for me to draw from my belt
I could probably tighten it down some more, but I try to keep the adjustment within the limits of the included parts- no cutting and melting ends, and, for this one, no folding the triangles under the included shoulder wraps. You can do it, obviously, but I'm trying to look at the design instead of the mods and ways people make it work. Especially remembering back when everything was "one-size-fits-all" meaning extra-large, I'm cranky about it, hah.
Yup im 5'7 155 and wearing a mrdium jpc 2.0 with 10x12s. Could prolly wear smalls but i like the coverage
U got any pics of u wearing? Just so i can compare to mine. I feel like mines a lil low in the rear. Plus j feel like the shoulders take up too much room for my buttstock had to swap my b5 for a magpul sl-m
Thankfully the Crye SPC has fixed the low plate bag issues with it's cumberbund being mounted differently. The WTFIdea plate carrier 24 and Shaw Concepts ARC even adopted certain aspects of it. I look forward to your review of the SPC.
Y'know you're the first person I've heard actually articulate a real difference in the SPC in a way that makes me genuinely interested to try one. I may have to wrangle myself some small plates to do it properly though.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 I spent a whole ass year waiting for one to pop up on a good deal and not super price gouged since they're OOS literally everywhere. But I'm glad I finally did. It's an upgrade on the JPC in every conceivable way.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 it’s in the name guy. It’s a more structured pc. It carriers weight better
Personally, I recommend the Warrior Assault DCS plate carrier over the JPC.
The reasons is it has mesh padding for comfort and breathability, being NIR Compliant, good quality from our friends across the pond of the UK, and comes with side pouches and radio pouch
You are attaching the AVS front flap incorrectly. The straps need to be tucked inside the plate bag. There is a velcro hook field on the inside. this way the cummerband has no chance to pull the starps off, when doffing.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll see about adjusting that.
The biggest problem with the jpc for me is just how long it takes to stuff from crye. There are so many other options that you can get in a week
I agree, but I'd also suggest not buying it directly from Crye if you're going to do so. Strangely enough, Evike is one of the best places.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 most of my ferro stuff has come through evike lol
Optactical has Crye and quick shipping. They are in NC if you are east coast it ships quick
You can buy on eBay from a retailer called Norgestar he sells crye stuff
Ebay, 3 days 🎉
Where did you get your combat hoodie from?
AEM01, Japanese artist. That version isn't available now, but he's coming out with a summer version soon.
None of the crye carriers ever came with sort armor. You can put soft armor backer into the jpc.
A ton of the problems you have with the carrier are because you’re too small for the medium carrier. Why do you think it hangs low? I got mine to hang correct. Also a plate carrier hanging lower has no purpose. It’s not easier to jump in. It’s called a jumpable plate carrier because of its low profile. You’re just simply too small for the medium. That’s it. You complain it’s bad because it fits too big and loose. That’s because…. It’s too big for you 😂
Yes, and unlike other carriers on the market, it has a more specific size that it's built around fitting, and since Medium is similar to the common (and cheap) 10x12 plates, it's something to consider versus it being an automatic choice. I like the small JPC, which did fit well, but if you don't have CIF to trade plate sizes out at, checking those sizes can get expensive and slow.
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 it can fit the same plates any other medium plate carrier can. Even a small 2.0 can fit a 10x12 with some time. The carrier is fine. You just refused to adjust it to you properly. It’s not a niche carrier. It’s one of the most versatile plate carriers in existence. Your video made 0 sense
@@nicothenodgoblin9117 I don't understand Amercians who run small plates which do not protect shit, bare minimum are 10x12 but they are very small too, shots come from angles too
@@simonriley8057 plates are made to fit a specific area of the torso but a lot of people are convinced they are special and that their torso will somehow conform itself to the plate's shape and coverage and it'll 100% work if they need it to.
I think plates have to be made from light composite but have more coverage, wearing Medium when you are 190 cm tall will not work@@Jewifer333x2
Homie out here with the good gear reviews
AVS video when ?
It's coming, I'm planning on talking about other ones before I get to that, but a certain plate carrier out there may make me accelerate that schedule. More importantly, gotta finish paying for this move and start working again.
LV119/Equinox.
Looks to me like it just needs adjustment.
>cat ears
>cosplay foam
>that gitup
>mutt
Opinion ignored.
Yes
Yeah I'm getting a Fcpc instead.
The Crye is great. This guy is hating on it because he’s too small for a medium. Also even then a medium could fit him if he adjusted it properly
I HATE THE JPC! I HATE THE JPC! I HATE THE JPC!
I HATE PLACARDS! I HATE PLACARDS! I HATE PLACARDS!
@@pequod1 I ALSO HATE PLACARDS I ALSO HATE PLACARDS
Enjoy your crippling student loan debt. 🤭
Fortunately I did something that got me an actual job so it's not that bad.