This thing is amazing! One day, I will be able to afford one haha And don't take this as a knock like this machine is too expensive. I'm fully aware of the potential things this can make and what kind of profits it can bring in I'm just not in a position to even come close to affording it right now. But I have a goal now ;)
I am pretty confident this printer along with Prusa's HT90 will be a market disruptor. Expect an order from me the second i find a customer for its parts.
My one can print 400x400x450mm. It has liquid cooled stepper motors and hot end. High temp enclosure and nozzle, 360 degree view of the part and all components due to a all glass enclosure and it's more reliable and easy to repair due to the simple cartesian design. Only has a single print head but for what it cost me to build I can build 10 of them for the same price.
Talking about reliability, even though you never owned a professional 3D printer and know nothing about the machine showed in this video. Sorry to tell you, but no serious business in this world would buy your machine. It's cartesian, so it's imprecise, and it's unreliable because your as a DIY guy can't provide any kind of support for a company. And I am 100% sure, that it's not capable of printing PEEK or ULTEM without severe modifications. 😉
@@grahamwatson3677 I honestly wouldn’t know where to begin. I am very poor and live in one of the most expensive cities in the world. It has taken me years to accumulate the parts and tools needed (not to mention a work space) by working as a meal delivery rider on a bicycle. Of course now that it is designed and built I could quite easily work out how much the cost and (more or less) time needed. As for my time per se, that is not for sale my dear.
Did you say non plannar??? Man i wish i could afford one of these things. Such an absolute beautiful monster of a machine. Killer job to the team behind these
Thank you for your comment. We appreciate your concern and want to address it directly. The video you mentioned, if it’s the same one we saw, was not an authentic review and featured a modulated voice. Additionally, it did not showcase our 22 IDEX V2. We did not take any action to remove that video; it appears the individual responsible decided to take it down themselves. At Vision Miner, we are committed to transparency and quality, and we stand by the performance and reliability of our products. If you have any specific concerns or questions, we would be happy to arrange a live one-on-one presentation to demonstrate the capabilities of our 22 IDEX V3. Please feel free to reach out to us directly. Thank you for your understanding and support.
@@VisionMiner thanks for the answer! I think the best thing y0u can do is give or rent one of your printers to a trusted reviewer so the community can have some objective impression :)
The mop salesman duped a desperate ukranian immigrant out of his company and designs. Still poor quality and shoddy sales tactics and lack of any real innovation from these losers.
Why copperhead instead of mosquito. Copperhead is a budget option as far as slice is concerned, and this is not a budget machine. What is the reason for corner cutting? The unsupported heatbreak of copperhead is not ideal.
has to be something custom/different about it? cause even slice says the copperhead is only rated to 450c but this video is saying 500c. agreed if this carries the same 15k price tag what is another couple hundo to get a higher end hot end.
With the v2 they mentioned the user could use the heatbrake to easily adjust z offset between both tools. Not sure if this still is the case or if it’s done in DWC now. This newer machine does seem to do auto XYZ offset calibration so I’m not sure if that reason is still the same.
Correct, the heat break is used to offset the z-axis between both heads, to match them up perfectly. Higher flow can be achieved with CHT nozzles, or upgrading to another higher-flow hotend design, but the Copperhead has plenty of output for the materials being used, but if someone wants to do massive layers at even higher speeds, the option is available to modify it :)
Lidar for flow rate control or accelerometers for input shaping? Every printer has to compete with Bambu. Sure, idex is excellent for support printing, but at $15K I expect to spend the minimum amount of hours dialing in each material.
They don't have to compare themselves with bambu to be the best in their field Bambu can't print such as advanced materials There is no any printers with that abilities in this price If someone wants to prints materials costs thousands of dollars, there is no room for funny bambu There is no any better printer than this to print those materials
If you print parts from material that costs 1000 dollars per kilogram for machines that cost over a million dollars, then the printer seems actually pretty cheap.
With laser SLS printers now coming in at under $10k, and hobby grade printers like the X1C at just $1500, there is no reason this needs to be $15k. At that market you're in Stratasys territory.
Stratasys territory is $150-400k for printing the high temp materials, with their budget machine you're extremely limited on material selection, and adding materials entails expensive material licenses.... so, apples to oranges. X1C only touches the tip of engineering thermoplastics -- you can push it to do more than intended, but then you're in risky territory. If you're a business owner and have ROI to gain on parts in advanced materials, the 22 IDEX is a no-brainer at this price point, with competitor machines starting in the $30-45K range with similar capabilities.
SLS is an interesting comparison -- if you're just doing Nylons, someone should definitely consider desktop SLS, but it's more application specific, compared to an open-material high-temp FDM machine. They're all tools for different situation -- there isn't yet a one-size-fits-all 3D printer, and the 22 IDEX fills a specific need within several specific industries (Aerospace, Medical, Energy, etc etc)
This Printer is an absolute beast of a printer! Nice work on the new version, and thank you for letting me release a video on it as well!
Cheers! For those who want to see that video: th-cam.com/video/9cgy81D0apQ/w-d-xo.html :)
@@VisionMiner Thank you for sharing!!
@7:26 I *LOVE* this auto XY calibration.
👏Heck yeah Duet 3 MB!
I've wanted one of these since the V1 was out!!! V3 is looking 🔥👌
Leaders. Great design work guys
Let me go clear a spot in my hobby house for one of these, and get a camera streaming that spot. ;)
This thing is amazing!
One day, I will be able to afford one haha
And don't take this as a knock like this machine is too expensive. I'm fully aware of the potential things this can make and what kind of profits it can bring in
I'm just not in a position to even come close to affording it right now. But I have a goal now ;)
Could you show a complete process from unpacking the filament, storing, printing and storing again..?
Yep! We're filming the latest videos on all that now, make sure you're subscribed, they'll be up in a few weeks!
I am pretty confident this printer along with Prusa's HT90 will be a market disruptor. Expect an order from me the second i find a customer for its parts.
My one can print 400x400x450mm. It has liquid cooled stepper motors and hot end. High temp enclosure and nozzle, 360 degree view of the part and all components due to a all glass enclosure and it's more reliable and easy to repair due to the simple cartesian design. Only has a single print head but for what it cost me to build I can build 10 of them for the same price.
I think your blowing smoke, otherwise you would have it all over your channel
Woah! Individual with knowledge and know-how makes thing to rival commercially available thing. You must be the first person to ever do this!
Talking about reliability, even though you never owned a professional 3D printer and know nothing about the machine showed in this video.
Sorry to tell you, but no serious business in this world would buy your machine. It's cartesian, so it's imprecise, and it's unreliable because your as a DIY guy can't provide any kind of support for a company. And I am 100% sure, that it's not capable of printing PEEK or ULTEM without severe modifications. 😉
Can you post a BOM and how many hours you have in design, assembly and testing? Also what do you value your time at $/hour?
@@grahamwatson3677 I honestly wouldn’t know where to begin. I am very poor and live in one of the most expensive cities in the world. It has taken me years to accumulate the parts and tools needed (not to mention a work space) by working as a meal delivery rider on a bicycle. Of course now that it is designed and built I could quite easily work out how much the cost and (more or less) time needed. As for my time per se, that is not for sale my dear.
maaaaan, the articulated dragons i could make a on this unit!! 😁
Amazing! Any chance you guys would make a consumer printer with a 90C chamber? That would be awesome.
The printer look realy nice and Josh Hawley do nice job presenting it
Did you say non plannar??? Man i wish i could afford one of these things. Such an absolute beautiful monster of a machine. Killer job to the team behind these
you didn't address that vide0 you had removed about the p00r quality of the V2... why should people trust you now?
Thank you for your comment. We appreciate your concern and want to address it directly. The video you mentioned, if it’s the same one we saw, was not an authentic review and featured a modulated voice. Additionally, it did not showcase our 22 IDEX V2. We did not take any action to remove that video; it appears the individual responsible decided to take it down themselves. At Vision Miner, we are committed to transparency and quality, and we stand by the performance and reliability of our products. If you have any specific concerns or questions, we would be happy to arrange a live one-on-one presentation to demonstrate the capabilities of our 22 IDEX V3. Please feel free to reach out to us directly. Thank you for your understanding and support.
@@VisionMiner thanks for the answer! I think the best thing y0u can do is give or rent one of your printers to a trusted reviewer so the community can have some objective impression :)
In Seattle now, doing exactly that :) ;) cheers!
@@VisionMiner awesome, I am really keen to see it, thanks!
The mop salesman duped a desperate ukranian immigrant out of his company and designs. Still poor quality and shoddy sales tactics and lack of any real innovation from these losers.
Why copperhead instead of mosquito. Copperhead is a budget option as far as slice is concerned, and this is not a budget machine. What is the reason for corner cutting? The unsupported heatbreak of copperhead is not ideal.
has to be something custom/different about it? cause even slice says the copperhead is only rated to 450c but this video is saying 500c. agreed if this carries the same 15k price tag what is another couple hundo to get a higher end hot end.
With the v2 they mentioned the user could use the heatbrake to easily adjust z offset between both tools. Not sure if this still is the case or if it’s done in DWC now. This newer machine does seem to do auto XYZ offset calibration so I’m not sure if that reason is still the same.
Correct, the heat break is used to offset the z-axis between both heads, to match them up perfectly. Higher flow can be achieved with CHT nozzles, or upgrading to another higher-flow hotend design, but the Copperhead has plenty of output for the materials being used, but if someone wants to do massive layers at even higher speeds, the option is available to modify it :)
@@VisionMiner Thanks for the response!
Wish it was in my price range. Know you guys focus on commercial/prosumer but i imagine youd kill a consumer printer
vcore-4 have similar features, but you can choose larger print bed if you want.
Looks pretty good Printer😅
What is the price range?
You can get all Pricing and info here visionminer.com/products/22IDEX
$14.000
I understand but..ouch...from a hobbyist
Price?
You can get all Pricing and info here visionminer.com/products/22IDEX
so kinda like a vcore-4 but more expensive.
Similar, but entirely made of metal, much much hotter temperatures, fully assembled, and supported :)
Lidar for flow rate control or accelerometers for input shaping? Every printer has to compete with Bambu.
Sure, idex is excellent for support printing, but at $15K I expect to spend the minimum amount of hours dialing in each material.
They don't have to compare themselves with bambu to be the best in their field
Bambu can't print such as advanced materials
There is no any printers with that abilities in this price
If someone wants to prints materials costs thousands of dollars, there is no room for funny bambu
There is no any better printer than this to print those materials
$14.000 😮 the price of a printfarm 😅
If you print parts from material that costs 1000 dollars per kilogram for machines that cost over a million dollars, then the printer seems actually pretty cheap.
With laser SLS printers now coming in at under $10k, and hobby grade printers like the X1C at just $1500, there is no reason this needs to be $15k. At that market you're in Stratasys territory.
not so simple.
Sls printing is extremely dangerous. Was gonna buy one but dont want to risk giving my kids cancer at home.
Stratasys territory is $150-400k for printing the high temp materials, with their budget machine you're extremely limited on material selection, and adding materials entails expensive material licenses.... so, apples to oranges. X1C only touches the tip of engineering thermoplastics -- you can push it to do more than intended, but then you're in risky territory. If you're a business owner and have ROI to gain on parts in advanced materials, the 22 IDEX is a no-brainer at this price point, with competitor machines starting in the $30-45K range with similar capabilities.
SLS is an interesting comparison -- if you're just doing Nylons, someone should definitely consider desktop SLS, but it's more application specific, compared to an open-material high-temp FDM machine. They're all tools for different situation -- there isn't yet a one-size-fits-all 3D printer, and the 22 IDEX fills a specific need within several specific industries (Aerospace, Medical, Energy, etc etc)
Comparing a 'hobby grade' printer to an IDEX machine designed for industrial and engineering applications is an odd take.
sounds very very expensive.
Gone entro to loud and childish