The only reason long term unemployment became an issue was because neoliberalism imposed structural unemployment on Britain and America. Why? To hold down wages and hinder trade union organising. The oversupply of labour is what keeps people in line. Nevertheless these claims about "multi generational families" are bunk since we've had welfare to work programmes since the 1990s. You CANNOT claim unemployment benefit without trying to find work. You have to go to the job centre every week for the first six weeks and then everyday thereafter. And here's the really perverse detail: there are somewhere in the region of 2.7 million people out of work (1.7 million claiming Universal Credit and 1 million not claiming for various reasons) but only 840,000 job vacancies at any one time. So necessarily almost 2 million people are stuck in an impossible position. The only reason this isn't a political issue is because the middle class dominated Left don't understand and simply accept the neoliberal assertion that unemployment is "low" when it is anything but. If Britain's welfare system was as generous as people like you claim we wouldn't have the highest homeless rate in the OECD and more foodbanks than McDonalds. Of course you have precisely nothing to say about the one trillion pound bailout handed to the "productive" private sector banks and billions fleeced out of the water companies, train companies, post office, army recruitment etc etc
@@Phil-n7c It's why neither the neolib economy nor the socialist economy is the truth. I saw Trump as a reaction to the BS of the "Outsourcing just means new jobs reappear here" non argument.
@@skylinefever I would support a pragmatic approach to the economy yes but I must refute some of the claims made about unemployment and the welfare system since they are based on lies. Yes completely agree Trump is a reaction to globalisation
56:06 Edward Dutton mentions Sir John Glubb's book Fate of Empires and I am delighted he did. This excellent short ( 28 page) book outlines how empires tend to fail and although written in the 1970's lists very similar ways empires fail which mirror our own. This book is available free on line. It says as ED mentions for example that the Roman empire had feminism, multiculturalism, homosexuality and more.
Thankyou I must read this. I have myself often seen the similarities between the fall of Rome and current civilization. To the excellent examples you give I would add a large increase in economic migrants.
Plenty of smart people believe in all sorts of things. But when you look closer you will see that all they are doing is protecting the idea that holds their group together. It’s a group safety thing not an opinion thing.
Indeed. In the Anglosphere quite a lot of people on the Right of politics seem to think their countries don't need government. At no point in human history did the wise people say "you know what we don't need? Good leadership and governance" This of course is cover for the fact that they want private interests to control everything. And yet when this results in catastrophic failure such as the collapsing water companies or the grossly exploitative outsourcing firms like Serco or G4S they refuse to change their minds. Marianna Mazzucato's book "The Big Con" is excellent on this
@@Phil-n7conly the most radical libertarians and anarchists want to eliminate all government. Normal conservatives know that power affects character, in often horrifying ways, and dependency is dangerous. The state must be servant, not master.
@@sanniepstein4835 Really well I'm just waiting for these normal conservatives to swing into action and do something about the power of global finance and the corporations which dominate our economies. It's this narrative about the "small state" which has led to the former. Quite incredible after 45 years of neoliberalism that people continue to trot out the same failed mantras. Far from being "the master", the state has been the servant of those interests for pretty much all of the last 350 years
@@sanniepstein4835The first thing they would do when they archive their goal is to install some kind of government. They don't want no government. They want a government that does exactly what they think is the best for them. We know this can't work if there are two or more people to govern but these people care as little about reality as the Woke.
Intelligent people know that it's NOT NICE to be horrible to people so they prefer not to do it, but they get frustrated when the rest of humanity proceeds with ignorance to make life miserable for anyone who is DIFFERENT.
Except the intelligent university types that are from the political left are VERY happy to make life miserable for the rest of us. Have you not noticed?
Not being nice to others who are different is an instinct to preserve your own culture and protect it from intruders. If culture a is nuce to everyone and culture b is nice to members of culture b but not nice to outsiders. Culture b came out on top on most circumstances of history. If a and b are of the same size and technology level.
Humans are tribal, not communal. Protecting your tribe, your culture, and your people is a fundamental of evolution. Allowing barbarians into your culture destroys your culture no matter how nice you are.
The smart dog is the easiest to train and smart people with weak spirits are the easiest to brainwash. Their need to be correct and accepted does’em in.
Sure, no self confidence. They don’t believe in themselves. They can spew the doctrine, ideology or orthodoxy in detail and even add to it. But it’s a way of hiding. Super smart but super weak. Hence a lack of spirit. And as soon as the winds change, they’ll do that too. You know, “wafty”. A serious lack of guts.
@@kyoglesage Spirit is the ability to be un-cooperative. IF your genes come from a place where the snow falls, food disappears, and if you are uncooperative then the group will push you out and your genes cease to exist. If your genetic code comes from a warm place, then you do not need to be cooperative because everyone can go their own way. Selfishness is allowed to continue, if not proliferate. Now let's a wee look at Asia: North Asia gives us Korea and Japan. Oh, snow fall. India gives us public defecation and rampart sexu@l assault. If that doesn't concern you, then you clearly are not someone who wants to protect women, as I so clearly do. Then we have England and Africa. AH! What differences could there be?!?!
@@martynradford605 Who cares?! That would be a list kept by those who stood by as Rhodesia fell. Think it through. Let me know if I can be of any aid. The best part is, these Leftist clowns are waiving in the very forces that will destroy them at every single level; from Oxford Union to the street corner clash. I'm not encouraging a debate because I don't want to get in trouble. From South America, I'll be fine.
IQ of 85 or less is considered too low for induction into the United States military. There are no military related tasks that can be competently performed, even as a cook, to be a functional member of the military, Forrest Gump notwithstanding.
Epigenetic effects of food are largely ignored. Social scientists would have us believe that thousands of ancestral generations eating different foods on different continents with different soils, bacteria, plants had no effect on brain development....but eating organic is good. It's being woke with one eye closed to avoid seeing inconvenient truths.
@@Dionysus-gv9lz Indeed. I've been hearing a lot about the importance of the gut biome in recent years. Dr Sabine Hazan did some very interesting work during the C19 "event". I would expect it to affect brain health & function too.
@@gnoelalexmay Exactly. A research made in Sweden on organic eggs found that they contained more chemicals than none-organic eggs. I forgot the exact details but it was related to some toxins in the chicken feed. Another example; The reverse osmosis filters, that many people buy to filter their drinking water, was found to leach toxins into the drinking water. It just shows that it’s almost complete impossible to trust anything these days.
Glubb wrote... "The people of the great nations of the past seem normally to have imagined that their pre-eminence would last for ever. ... attribute their pre-eminence to hereditary virtues. They carried in their blood, they believed, qualities which constituted them a race of supermen, an illusion which inclined them to the employment of cheap foreign labour (or slaves) to perform menial tasks. They unconsciously assumed that they would always be the leaders of mankind, relaxed their energies, and spent an increasing part of their time in leisure, amusement or sport."
Very good; I grew up in a very British neighborhood in Toronto, Canada. The late 60's and early 70's saw quite a few of the spinsters whose childhood sweethearts never returned from the Somme. They would yell and wave their canes at my Finnish speaking family due to our language and blond hair.
Edward really has a knack for getting me thinking. I’m not sure, if it’s the exuberant belief he has in his own theories that makes me want to be a polite contrarian, or if I want to believe in him but can’t face the reality he puts forth… It would make sense that average intelligence would stay stable, or even increase given the ready available knowledge our culture offers. I sense it dumbs us down by allowing us to lazily do as little as possible. If modernity offers its citizen’s enough to get on, as default, you’re far less likely to find yourself striving for intelligence markers through higher education/academia. It would make sense that our ancestors needed to excel in order to even be close to the fundamentals of life - reading, writing, arithmetic etc. And as a consequence, this would certainly instil a dynamism to the man seeking ‘just enough’ even to survive. Maybe I’m wrong. My thesis: Education, in its current form, does the modern citizen a disservice. Failing to make strivers out of us. When, as I point out; man needs to be played at the challenge - modernity requires a new template to instil a very modern, expansive ‘and outside the box’ dynamism into the minds of the youth. Are the young men falling behind because they aren’t as smart? Of course not ✌️🫥 Provide the challenge - increase the intelligence. Reading, writing, arithmetic… Necessary, but… old hat. I get the feeling that our Deliveroo economy has stunted even our greatest minds into believing there’s nothing more man can imagine into existence…
I think there is a lot at say for your thesis. Education today does not stretch, does not foster independent thought, does not make people self reliant and able to question everything. Instead it diminishes us and confines is rather than draws out our full potential
lots to say about what you wrote, you have a knack these ideas keep it up. but in the end readily available knowledge has little bearing on genetic factors rather readily available information depends upon genetic factors despite the immense information age you find yourself within, imagine what it could have been in the hands of people of a different time.
The man has never done any scientific work in his life and his first degree was in theology. He parrots theories which make him feel better about himself.
@@FS99999 A professor of what exactly? He passes himself off as a scientist but hasn't been in a lab in his life. He parrots a THEORY - so what? There are all kinds of demented theories out there Hs first degree gives lie to how his mind works
At 3:41 he has not yet defined 'intelligence' but uses the word continuously. In fact, 'intelligence' means ''to choose from among'', via Latin and Greek. Thus, to create order from chaos. To give meaning by a good selection. To read (related word 'legere') by following the correct words in the correct order. To be creative. Thus we see that most people talking about 'intelligence' don't know what they are talking about, and their talk is meaningless.
Just quoting on anecdotal example and only giving a lack of mathematical skill as an indicstion of lower intelligence is not scientific. What about lack of interest as the reason why the young man did not go to the best university etc. No other variable was suggested such as a greater interest in sport, creativity such as art or in social connections than academic achievement. Maybe he found his parents way of life boring.
Dutton is convinced that educational achievement equals intelligence, whilst this may once have been the case, I think it has changed in recent decades, especially for women.
There's also slow and quick thinking. Quick thinking it's a lot like the thinking you have in a fast life: violence, immediate reaction, sex, drugs, danger, following emotions not logic. Then the slow thinking is more logical and evidence-based, with better problem solving (unsurprisingly). 2 separate systems in the brain. AI is currently quick thinking but is moving towards more slow and careful thinking.
Being good at solving problems is the Hallmark of intelligence. It can be greatly enhanced by life long learning & education. Anyone can be smarter by applying self-motivation to elevate themselves to higher standards via discipline & focus. But unfortunately some really smart ppl invented social media to keep that from happening.
Hegel’s philosophy of a dialectical process, where contradictions (thesis and antithesis) play a crucial role in the unfolding of history and thought are at play here. . While the discourse around wokeness is intense in the present-it is ultimately transient and will resolve or evolve as time progresses. The advice is to just observe and bring no reaction to their discourse. The struggle or contradictions are part of a larger process that will work itself out, without external intervention. Over time, the current generation (with its specific issues or ideologies) will pass, and so too will the particular discourse tied to it. History is a process of becoming, where each stage (or generation) is a necessary part of the movement towards a more developed and rational whole.
"If everyone is intelligent, nobody is.." Well, we mostly all have two eyes, but we still talk about sight, and get glasses. Intelligence will also vary during the day, and due to schooling and use of foods or drugs. This seems like Dutton needs to establish a false value to IQ, even as it would be very important even if we all were born with exactly the same potential.
Under the conditions that prevail today, the evolutionary logic may indeed suggest that intelligence has decreased OVERALL. However, there is at least one technology today that increases intelligence: the C-section, i.e., cesarean surgery. In humans, the birth canal is the primary bottleneck for head size and therefore brain size. Cesarean surgery entirely eliminates that bottleneck.
I agree it’s a Group safety thing . Private hospital practices are being questioned, but staff though appearing uncomfortable suport status quo. (AUstralia)
Best analysis of Western society I’ve heard in years. A few years ago I was starting to wonder whether it was odd my fellow Wokies were ok with a path that lead to oblivion.
As a psychologist who writes on intellliigence this guy is uneducated. I wouod recommend him to take a psychology degree and learn something about interesting.
I am on Team Irving the Mesopotamia Man, regarding humanity. We have not """evolved""" (or devolved). THIS man presents a lot of interesting ideas, but it does not seem all his ideas map to reality. EDIT: all mostly accurate data, and some nice CORRELATION. But I don't think the man has a complete holistic picture of humanity. Still interesting data.
Of course we have evolved. All species evolve to suit the environment. That's basic science. Unfortunately, our environment doesn't always favour the more intelligent or healthy. Many life forms don't need more intelligence, more obviously so, koalas. Their ancestors are thought to have been more intelligent.
@@drphilipdavies Also, if you care, when I was small (and medium sized) I got to eavesdrop on many conversations among women, currently married and not. They love to think they are the brains of the operation, and that men are nothing without their advice. Basically most women prefer to think they are more intelligent than the man. Anecdotal evidence, but I swear it's the truth.
The developmental process is evolution recapitulated. Everytime we evolve we extend the period of development. Due to the constraints of the birth canal with regards to cranial size this development must happen outside the womb. A longer period of development outside the womb requires more parental investment in the child. More parental investment in the child requires greater commitment and cooperation between the mother and father. In each following generation there seems to be a smaller percentage of people that reach their potential. I think this speaks to the failure of men and women to reconcile their differences and create strong families. The false narratives that we've been given could be replaced if had the courage to actually collaborate. Systems that already exist could be recruited and repurposed in the service of something new. Have a beautiful day everyone! 🌞❤️🌛
This is a point of difference I have with the doctor. I question the intelligence of people too stupid to reproduce, regardless of their educational achievements.
Correlations IQ Vs knowledge: 0.5 that's a pretty strong correlation. 0.8, that's basically the same thing. Identical twins IQ scores correlate 0.8 and the same person doing IQ tests, their test scores correlate 0.8.
So if we select more intelligent people (than us) to be around in adulthood, we might be dragged up by them. If that happens in childhood. Alternatively, adulthood is a time when genes are expressed more strongly (than childhood) so maybe this environmental effect would be weaker. I think it still does exist.
Dutton no where says that solving puzzles - or mere practical thinking - high I.Q. score - is merely an indication of a greater readiness and willingness to focus one’s attention on un-poetic subject matter. The over-used term “scientific genius” describes a man who lacks intelligence.
If you are interested in outlier high IQ. You should read some of Duttons work on geniuses, he discusses the concept of genius in extraordinary depth explaining where all the assumptions of the models lie where the weaknesses of the models are etc.
Unfortunately with the decline in religious practices at the same time we designed our cities to make community impossible for the advent of profit. They way our cities in the U.S. are designed separates everything and everyone so you don't know your butcher or your neighbors name.
“At Our Wits End” lol perfect it’s perfect well deserved. Like I said civilization is the collapse not the success of the species that’s why hype is created in the first place to undermine quickly
Jumping in without explaining what is meant by either intelligence or "woke" is a parody of what they think they are doing, worthy of a monty python twit sketch. The suggestion at 2:20 that bigger heads have something to do with better literacy is classic.
I believe it is bigger brains relative to body size is what they are talking about, a ratio, not an absolute measurement of head size. For example, the Japanese have quite high IQs compared to whites, although they are generally smaller in body size.
@@thijsjong OK- to be fair, I just randomly fast forwarded to 29:15. Rather than reining himself in, Professor Plum gets further into his own feelings, saying "Women choose their partners according to greater education level, and there's fewer males with that, So they become lesbians or Cat ladies or whatever." Its not my fault I correctly anticipated the entire hour would be untethered from reality and worth no one's time. Everything he says in that sentence concerning how sexual relations arise and how sexual desire works is demonstrably false. 40 year old virgin describing a bag of sand, indeed.
@@supralogical I think you are right - and the premise is sophomoric. Intelligence is a function of synaptic density and condition, not size of anything. Some rodents have greater brain to body ratio, whales and elephants have much larger brains over all. There is no magic that makes a brain smarter if a body is smaller - or makes someone dumber if they gain 100 lbs and change their ration.
@@thijsjong OK- to be fair, I just randomly fast forwarded to 29:15. Rather than reining himself in, Professor Plum gets further into his own feelings, saying "Women choose their partners according to greater education level, and there's fewer males with that, So they become lesbians or Cat ladies or whatever." Its not my fault I correctly anticipated the entire hour would be untethered from reality and worth no one's time. Everything he says in that sentence concerning how sexual relations arise and how sexual desire works is demonstrably false. 40 year old virgin describing a bag of sand, indeed.
Well theology is not synonymous with philosophy. While it's true that philosophers have the third highest iq in academia, most philosophers do not believe in God. And when they do, upon scrutiny, you realize it's not the god the average believer believes in.
@@russellfine3079 evolutionary psychology of business. check my website for proof. it's quite sweet, in a way, the way that leftists have to literally lie to cope with this fact.
Classic example of using adjusted 'statistics' in an attempt to support a myopic, simple-minded, ridiculous and demonstrably wrong opinion. Simply put, the type specimen for paltering. I wonder how many DK effect superiority complexes this claptrap will inflict on the world...
@the_Kurgan Yes an interesting possibility. I meant Earth environments. Farming allowed larger populations which may have decreased Darwinian pressure. But some regions are easy to farm and would not require as much intelligence as environments where agriculture was difficult. I'm not saying it is so either, but it's possible.
This is very perceptive and accurate it can be seen across organisms. Individual’s in a stable environment with predictable results will breed. Whereas those in a disruptive environment will try new things develop new tools and take risks because the old ways are not as predictive of the future. These things in tandem mean that the environment that creates great leaps in technology and “inelegance” will always be associated with a drop in reproductive behaviors. It will be interesting to see how the solution settles.
Man with the weird tie talk real funny. I get it doe. Woke equals Smart. Yea, I get it. I'm the Wokest! Makes me the Smartest! I went to college for Socilology and I got all the A's 'cause I'm the wokest ... makes me the smarterest!
@@drphilipdavies I will. I'll do that. Meanwhile, you can check out where decision-making process occurs in the brain (pre-frontal cortex) vs. where the brain recognizes those of an "out-group" (amygdala). Which is why in East Cost university studies, people who "aren't racist" still have a mind that triggers an alert signal every-single-time someone who does not look like them appears on the test screen. Can you do that? Can you look in to that? Meanwhile, I'll check out Dunning Kruger. HA ha! I know you don't feel stupid after stomped by an internet nobody / clown, but anyone who reads these will notice? I do live shows! I'm available, anytime anywhere via an online connection to be schooled and learned. Have a Merry Christmas!
@@drphilipdavies Did you actually completely misunderstand my post? Leading to me completely misunderstanding your reaction? Intelligent people with souls of cowards, is how we got here. Intelligent enough to see where this road leads, means steps must be taken for the path England is on.
Very interesting indeed. But without God, Jesus and Biblical discernment ; you are missing so much. But greatly appreciate this level of talk, the massive big truths that you are trying to bring out in a civilised and thoughtful way.
So that was interesting. Are you saying that the countries of the eastern world that are more conservative conformist and industrious are more healthy than the woke western dominant countries? What does this say about the cultural future in the west? Not sure I agree with the use of left and right as political definitions, since there doesn't seem to be a left in main stream politics only varied forms of right, since the left has been destroyed in the main. Is woke a symptom of this destruction? Intelligence, now there's a subject open to be deployed as some sort of supremist attitude, as if there's less value in not very bright people. It's nice to see how other people think about things, these are my not studied impressions of this conversation.
Dutton is likeable. I see him like the Zizek of the right. He has a lot of potential. But there remains a primary fly in his ointment which he simply cannot reconcile: on the one hand, he argues for heritability of intelligence, on the other, on the environmental impacts of intelligence. He claims that intellectual capacity increases can be noted and explained by particular environmental pressures - the greatest of which is his view that the highest classes in British society had the most intelligent children, since intelligence is .4 of success, but even if that were true, the characteristic feature of the British pre-industrial period was class immobility, ie landed aristocracy controlled all the assets so even if the children of the poor were brilliant, they would have no means of improving their social status, they remained peasant serfs, or tenant farmers after 1574. There was no means by which their lot in life might be said to be "improvable" whereby their abilities might have caused them to climb social status, whereas plenty of the children of the wealthy with low intelligence survived due to better environmental conditions and passed the genes. He used data points obtained from social science of the present day, to infer causes in the past and then makes evolutionary arguments than cannot be supported with anachronistic generalizations. If heredity determines intelligence, and heredity functions for all these associated outcomes correlated to intelligence, then the environmental impacts are irrelevant. His fundamental argument is that intelligent people are more likely to survive, because they figure out how to get themselves resources (ie rich people are the most intelligent) - dumb people don't survive on their own - thus wouldn't have had children to procreate; by implementing a system of social welfare and so-called socialist socioeconomic structures - we subsidize the dumb people synthetically and cause a decrease in general intelligence, since the intelligent and rich are too focused on their lives and education and paying for the taxes to subsidize all the dumb and poor and their many children which they couldn't have afforded were it not for the rich and smart. In other words - his argument is that smart people produce smart children and dumb people produce dumb children, but this isn't AT all how genetics works and why no one credible takes him seriously. You get 23 chromosomes from your mother and 23 from your father. But you don't inherit 25% of your genes from each of your grandparents, but something like 0-37%. Some of your ancestors are totally left out, others contribute more. You don't inherit 12.5% from each great grandparent but something like 0-24%. Not only is your direct proportion of genetic inheritance mixed up, but additionally, each time the chromosomes split and recombine, they do so randomly as well, to create new genetic variability, so each child is not only a product of their own parental DNA, they're also a product of the random sequences imposed on nature to force genetic variability - so that by the time you go back 400 years - you are no more related to any of your direct ancestors than you are to a random human from the generic human DNA pool. Put simply, being an intelligent parent does not guarantee having intelligent children as anyone with children will confirm.
Fascinating and while I agree with MOST of this I suspect that you could stand to be a bit more socially woke with your commentary. Also I dare say in USA we are simply NOT WOKE enough, example we just elected Trump. So conservatisum is not the intellegent choice. Also I started conservative and have swung mostly Liberal with exception of National Security and a clue that ocasionally rarely Death penality might be called for, juzst rarely.
It is really amazing how someone tries to interpolate English class system on international demographics . And it is so wrong . During 1950 ties ( teenage years of my mother) you could have lived a happy life and still end up with more fingers than female PhD s you know personally . Now fast forward to 2020 and there are more female university graduates with master degree than man in most subjects So the fact that society is getting less intelligent is an delusion What he probably wanted to say is that nowadays you can rise to the top academically and you would not get anything for it not even status .And even having a PhD today in medieval history is only a nice gesture but willn t feed a family of 4
Being awake is kind of a low threshold. They may be attuned to problems they see but the actions that they take like BLM for example are absolutely horrible. My favorite disconnect lately is Gays and lesbians for Palestine !!
@@vivalaleta Every woke person fervently believe they're right and have no tolerance for other opinions. Basis of fascism, communism...or ordinary Russians.
Word meanings evolve and can have multiple meanings. Your definition works for what being woke initially meant, awareness of social injustices; which do exist. However, the term has taken on another meaning that is now more prevalent, at least amongst certain demographics; that is a pejorative one. My definition would be hypersensitivity and awareness to racism, identity politics Trans rights, and other leftist obsessions to a degree that is not based in reality or common sense.
Dutton to generalize, as you do, seems so irresponsible. There is the whole wide world. I am happy that your host is staying on top of this. Interesting nonetheless.
it's so hilarious that this guy rattles off an a list of things that he says have contributed to a lower IQ, and the host just hears the list and decides the guest gas produced "an "impressive array of evidence." Guest's real name is Edward Dunning, host is freddy kruger
describing brain as muscle ain't particularly intelligent! but interesting talk. pity he has to resort to the word race and not environmental group - difficult as this is not 'intended' to be racist.
He's too generalised in what he says. I.e. far or extreme right or left or far or extreme left. I'm sure there are people out there, if you took their beliefs and behaviours in isolation would fit into extreme right, extreme left and many points on the scale in-between.
Women select for intellegence not necessarily success. My high IQ daughter and Myself booth intentionally screened for high IQ men! I did not give a care to high income, ethics and smarts and yes basic reliable emploment
This guy is really full of it. That initial splodge was a textbook case of zero scientific substance. Starting with any respectable attempt to define "intelligence." Moving on to the nutty idea that the high infant morality rate had anything to do with intelligence.
🙄 .They are when the public needs understand complex issues in a democracy. I work around a lot of scientists that i can have complex discussions with but not my co-workers. Very frustrating, gets very tiring trying to explain things EQ is largely a feminist scam to elevate socially dumb people
We are social animals with nuclear warheads, nanometric forges and embryonic spacefare. EQ is of importance while dealing with people under the Dunbar's number. So family and tribe scales. It doesn't help you fathom the complexity on an internationalized chain of supply, the maintenance of a dam or the side-effects of a bilateral trade agreement. Those subjects needed IQ to be conceived and need IQ to be maintained. A technostructure that is not mastered anymore turns against its users/neighbours, creating social problems on its own.
@@evrardwergild1677 "It doesn't help you fathom the complexity on an internationalized chain of supply" - inherently fragile - humans were never built for globalization, and here in lies the problem. ALL large scale human structures are doomed to fail. Agriculture & civilization are the most prominent example. Grain based societies will always collapse.
Phillip Davies can’t pronounce his ‘R’s’ - (‘arse’?) - or his ‘L’s’ - mumble, mumbwle, mumbwoo. I find such men always dodge the main point. Has anyone else noticed that?
That all that you can do is just say "a silly thesis" with no further proof - no evidence - not even a sense of an attempt at a cogent argument - and merely an assertion is rather a kind of proof of the point he is making in that you are the sort of person who does not even feel compelled to provided even a semblance of an argument. It's more telling on the kind of person you are than on his thesis which your behavior only helps to confirm.
@@pascalbercker7487 Edward Dutton was "let go" from Oulu for plagiarising a student’s dissertation. He purports (contrary to the vast majority of the statistical evidence) that variation in intelligence and other characteristics are almost entirely biologically determined. That thesis is utterly "silly" and a passing knowledge of either evolution, economic development, or the measures of body weight, hight or IQ over the past century should satisfy anyone that his silliness need not be addressed; however Zach B. Hancock has this very good video on heredity th-cam.com/video/JHWmokGr6W8/w-d-xo.html
This dude is full of crap. He thinks it’s intelligence that causes people to be less religious. No it’s not! It’s education that drives atheism. Sixty years ago Americans were far more religious. Did Americans become significantly more intelligent or did they just become more educated? It’s obviously the latter. He also hints that Europeans are more intelligent because they had to survive colder climate which he obviously assumes takes more intelligence to do. I have two response: (1) doesn’t it also takes great intelligence for the Africans to survive among dangerous predators that are much stronger and quicker ? (2) why do the Eskimos have IQ ten points lower than whites, despite evolving in cold climate?
He takes small studies (that haven't replicated) and presents them with absolute conviction, while drawing links of causality that are not warranted not proved.
I wish more politicians understood all of this. The current course we are on is leading us to a disastrous collapse.
You're right
Unfortunately the current politician is a product of this process.
Multi-generational families on welfare. Taxing the productive to pay the unproductive to outbreed the productive. Winning.
Incentivize a tubal ligation of the Idiocracy instead.
...to be captured by liberalism or if you'd rather "wokeism" and convinced unto ending their lineage! the future is conservative
The only reason long term unemployment became an issue was because neoliberalism imposed structural unemployment on Britain and America. Why? To hold down wages and hinder trade union organising. The oversupply of labour is what keeps people in line.
Nevertheless these claims about "multi generational families" are bunk since we've had welfare to work programmes since the 1990s. You CANNOT claim unemployment benefit without trying to find work. You have to go to the job centre every week for the first six weeks and then everyday thereafter. And here's the really perverse detail: there are somewhere in the region of 2.7 million people out of work (1.7 million claiming Universal Credit and 1 million not claiming for various reasons) but only 840,000 job vacancies at any one time. So necessarily almost 2 million people are stuck in an impossible position.
The only reason this isn't a political issue is because the middle class dominated Left don't understand and simply accept the neoliberal assertion that unemployment is "low" when it is anything but.
If Britain's welfare system was as generous as people like you claim we wouldn't have the highest homeless rate in the OECD and more foodbanks than McDonalds.
Of course you have precisely nothing to say about the one trillion pound bailout handed to the "productive" private sector banks and billions fleeced out of the water companies, train companies, post office, army recruitment etc etc
@@Phil-n7c It's why neither the neolib economy nor the socialist economy is the truth.
I saw Trump as a reaction to the BS of the "Outsourcing just means new jobs reappear here" non argument.
@@skylinefever I would support a pragmatic approach to the economy yes but I must refute some of the claims made about unemployment and the welfare system since they are based on lies.
Yes completely agree Trump is a reaction to globalisation
56:06 Edward Dutton mentions Sir John Glubb's book Fate of Empires and I am delighted he did. This excellent short ( 28 page) book outlines how empires tend to fail and although written in the 1970's lists very similar ways empires fail which mirror our own. This book is available free on line. It says as ED mentions for example that the Roman empire had feminism, multiculturalism, homosexuality and more.
I've not heard of this. I'll look it up. Thanks.
@@latetotheparty184 Thanks for the excellent advice and recommendation. The Fate of Empires is very insightful!
Hedonism and decadence
Thankyou I must read this. I have myself often seen the similarities between the fall of Rome and current civilization. To the excellent examples you give I would add a large increase in economic migrants.
Homosexuality, feminism and multiculturalism did in the Roman Empire. No wonder the book was 28 pages.
Plenty of smart people believe in all sorts of things. But when you look closer you will see that all they are doing is protecting the idea that holds their group together. It’s a group safety thing not an opinion thing.
It's "packthink"
Indeed. In the Anglosphere quite a lot of people on the Right of politics seem to think their countries don't need government. At no point in human history did the wise people say "you know what we don't need? Good leadership and governance"
This of course is cover for the fact that they want private interests to control everything. And yet when this results in catastrophic failure such as the collapsing water companies or the grossly exploitative outsourcing firms like Serco or G4S they refuse to change their minds.
Marianna Mazzucato's book "The Big Con" is excellent on this
@@Phil-n7conly the most radical libertarians and anarchists want to eliminate all government.
Normal conservatives know that power affects character, in often horrifying ways, and dependency is dangerous. The state must be servant, not master.
@@sanniepstein4835 Really well I'm just waiting for these normal conservatives to swing into action and do something about the power of global finance and the corporations which dominate our economies.
It's this narrative about the "small state" which has led to the former. Quite incredible after 45 years of neoliberalism that people continue to trot out the same failed mantras. Far from being "the master", the state has been the servant of those interests for pretty much all of the last 350 years
@@sanniepstein4835The first thing they would do when they archive their goal is to install some kind of government. They don't want no government. They want a government that does exactly what they think is the best for them. We know this can't work if there are two or more people to govern but these people care as little about reality as the Woke.
We have been wrong about intelligence from the beginning. This is a perfect example.
Intelligent people know that it's NOT NICE to be horrible to people so they prefer not to do it, but they get frustrated when the rest of humanity proceeds with ignorance to make life miserable for anyone who is DIFFERENT.
Except the intelligent university types that are from the political left are VERY happy to make life miserable for the rest of us. Have you not noticed?
Not being nice to others who are different is an instinct to preserve your own culture and protect it from intruders. If culture a is nuce to everyone and culture b is nice to members of culture b but not nice to outsiders. Culture b came out on top on most circumstances of history.
If a and b are of the same size and technology level.
Humans are tribal, not communal. Protecting your tribe, your culture, and your people is a fundamental of evolution. Allowing barbarians into your culture destroys your culture no matter how nice you are.
@@k3w1b3an5 Who are the barbarians? Many of today's 'tribe' are yesterday's barbarians lol
Intelligence is not “nice”. It is an ability to understand reality and extrapolate from there.
The smart dog is the easiest to train and smart people with weak spirits are the easiest to brainwash. Their need to be correct and accepted does’em in.
What do you mean by 'spirit'? That's a very wafty concept. Can you elucidate?
@ lack self confidence and don’t believe in themselves. You know, “wafty”. In fact, most brilliant people or academics are cowards.
Sure, no self confidence. They don’t believe in themselves. They can spew the doctrine, ideology or orthodoxy in detail and even add to it. But it’s a way of hiding. Super smart but super weak. Hence a lack of spirit. And as soon as the winds change, they’ll do that too. You know, “wafty”. A serious lack of guts.
@@kyoglesage Spirit is the ability to be un-cooperative.
IF your genes come from a place where the snow falls, food disappears, and if you are uncooperative then the group will push you out and your genes cease to exist.
If your genetic code comes from a warm place, then you do not need to be cooperative because everyone can go their own way. Selfishness is allowed to continue, if not proliferate.
Now let's a wee look at Asia: North Asia gives us Korea and Japan. Oh, snow fall. India gives us public defecation and rampart sexu@l assault. If that doesn't concern you, then you clearly are not someone who wants to protect women, as I so clearly do.
Then we have England and Africa. AH! What differences could there be?!?!
@@kyoglesageI'm assuming he means weak willed, easily led by others, low courage, that kind of thing
Average IQ: 100
Average IQ for university educated: 115.
15 point difference.
In South Africa these values are 70 and 84.
Fuck me... imagine the list you're on for publishing facts like that.
Bravo you 👏 🙌
84 is hardly university material. Mine is 126 and couldn't get into the system. A stroke of good luck.
@@martynradford605 Who cares?! That would be a list kept by those who stood by as Rhodesia fell. Think it through. Let me know if I can be of any aid.
The best part is, these Leftist clowns are waiving in the very forces that will destroy them at every single level; from Oxford Union to the street corner clash.
I'm not encouraging a debate because I don't want to get in trouble. From South America, I'll be fine.
IQ of 85 or less is considered too low for induction into the United States military. There are no military related tasks that can be competently performed, even as a cook, to be a functional member of the military, Forrest Gump notwithstanding.
I enjoy listening to your knowledge based experiences.Nothing beats really experiences.Have a good evening
Thanks for the comment
3mins in...
...you can't discount the influence of poisonous foods, harmful medications and grade inflation/nonsense academic courses.
Very good point, many toxicities added to our environment since industrialisation and urbanisation.
Epigenetic effects of food are largely ignored. Social scientists would have us believe that thousands of ancestral generations eating different foods on different continents with different soils, bacteria, plants had no effect on brain development....but eating organic is good. It's being woke with one eye closed to avoid seeing inconvenient truths.
@@Dionysus-gv9lz
Indeed. I've been hearing a lot about the importance of the gut biome in recent years.
Dr Sabine Hazan did some very interesting work during the C19 "event". I would expect it to affect brain health & function too.
@@oldernu1250
If "organic" _(weird term?)_ actually meant no pesticides etc, that can't be a bad thing.
@@gnoelalexmay Exactly. A research made in Sweden on organic eggs found that they contained more chemicals than none-organic eggs. I forgot the exact details but it was related to some toxins in the chicken feed.
Another example; The reverse osmosis filters, that many people buy to filter their drinking water, was found to leach toxins into the drinking water. It just shows that it’s almost complete impossible to trust anything these days.
This is all set forth in the opening 15 minutes of Idiocracy.
I had exactly the same thought.
Came to the comments for this.
And yet I question the actual intelligence of the "intelligent" couple who could not figure out how to reproduce.
Glubb wrote...
"The people of the great nations of the past seem normally to have imagined that their pre-eminence would last for ever. ... attribute their pre-eminence to hereditary virtues. They carried in their blood, they believed, qualities which constituted them a race of supermen, an illusion which inclined them to the employment of cheap foreign labour (or slaves) to perform menial tasks. They unconsciously assumed that they would always be the leaders of mankind, relaxed their energies, and spent an increasing part of their time in leisure, amusement or sport."
Please checkout Ed's books particularly 'Making Sense of Race'.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
Very good; I grew up in a very British neighborhood in Toronto, Canada.
The late 60's and early 70's saw quite a few of the spinsters whose childhood sweethearts never returned from the Somme.
They would yell and wave their canes at my Finnish speaking family due to our language and blond hair.
In Australia one of my aunts was one of those women.
49:23 I would be interested to know whether this increase in conservative youth is different between the US and the UK.
I see some signs au.
Edward really has a knack for getting me thinking.
I’m not sure, if it’s the exuberant belief he has in his own theories that makes me want to be a polite contrarian, or if I want to believe in him but can’t face the reality he puts forth…
It would make sense that average intelligence would stay stable, or even increase given the ready available knowledge our culture offers. I sense it dumbs us down by allowing us to lazily do as little as possible.
If modernity offers its citizen’s enough to get on, as default, you’re far less likely to find yourself striving for intelligence markers through higher education/academia. It would make sense that our ancestors needed to excel in order to even be close to the fundamentals of life - reading, writing, arithmetic etc. And as a consequence, this would certainly instil a dynamism to the man seeking ‘just enough’ even to survive. Maybe I’m wrong.
My thesis:
Education, in its current form, does the modern citizen a disservice. Failing to make strivers out of us. When, as I point out; man needs to be played at the challenge - modernity requires a new template to instil a very modern, expansive ‘and outside the box’ dynamism into the minds of the youth. Are the young men falling behind because they aren’t as smart? Of course not ✌️🫥
Provide the challenge - increase the intelligence. Reading, writing, arithmetic… Necessary, but… old hat.
I get the feeling that our Deliveroo economy has stunted even our greatest minds into believing there’s nothing more man can imagine into existence…
I think there is a lot at say for your thesis. Education today does not stretch, does not foster independent thought, does not make people self reliant and able to question everything. Instead it diminishes us and confines is rather than draws out our full potential
lots to say about what you wrote, you have a knack these ideas keep it up. but in the end readily available knowledge has little bearing on genetic factors rather readily available information depends upon genetic factors despite the immense information age you find yourself within, imagine what it could have been in the hands of people of a different time.
The man has never done any scientific work in his life and his first degree was in theology. He parrots theories which make him feel better about himself.
@@Phil-n7c his first degree was in theology, what about the facts he is professor and author of many papers and books you can read yourself
@@FS99999 A professor of what exactly? He passes himself off as a scientist but hasn't been in a lab in his life. He parrots a THEORY - so what? There are all kinds of demented theories out there
Hs first degree gives lie to how his mind works
I dream of the day when Dutton's books become available on Audible 🙏🙏🙏
Excellent! It's a pleasure hearing intelligent conversation, especially in the age of political correctness...😂
Thanks. appreciated
Good interview. It's a distillation of Ed's ideas.
'Kindly let me help you or you'll drown' said the monkey to fish as he placed him on the tree. alan watts
A thought provoking, but deeply flawed thesis.
At 3:41 he has not yet defined 'intelligence' but uses the word continuously. In fact, 'intelligence' means ''to choose from among'', via Latin and Greek. Thus, to create order from chaos. To give meaning by a good selection. To read (related word 'legere') by following the correct words in the correct order. To be creative. Thus we see that most people talking about 'intelligence' don't know what they are talking about, and their talk is meaningless.
It's the ability to solve problems.
I found this discussion very interesting. I subscribed.
Thanks and welcome
Just quoting on anecdotal example and only giving a lack of mathematical skill as an indicstion of lower intelligence is not scientific. What about lack of interest as the reason why the young man did not go to the best university etc. No other variable was suggested such as a greater interest in sport, creativity such as art or in social connections than academic achievement. Maybe he found his parents way of life boring.
This dude is talking out his ass.
He quoted a lot more than that anecdote.
@ Seriously?
Some people however intelligent, become demotivated, disillusioned and do not want to be part of the education machine any more.
Dutton is convinced that educational achievement equals intelligence, whilst this may once have been the case, I think it has changed in recent decades, especially for women.
I have my uncle's school exercise book from 1912. The quality of the writing is is that of a bright 18 year old today.
There's also slow and quick thinking.
Quick thinking it's a lot like the thinking you have in a fast life: violence, immediate reaction, sex, drugs, danger, following emotions not logic.
Then the slow thinking is more logical and evidence-based, with better problem solving (unsurprisingly).
2 separate systems in the brain.
AI is currently quick thinking but is moving towards more slow and careful thinking.
Grim prognosis for western culture, but that does not mean it's not true.
Very interesting talk, thank you (subscribed).
Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated.
actually a quite positive prognosis, though coming to learn of it is jarring
@FS99999 do you live here? Families are living in tents dude.
Well done for hosting ed.
Being good at solving problems is the Hallmark of intelligence. It can be greatly enhanced by life long learning & education. Anyone can be smarter by applying self-motivation to elevate themselves to higher standards via discipline & focus. But unfortunately some really smart ppl invented social media to keep that from happening.
Yes good point. Even I spend to much time on social media when I could be reading a book
Excellent and thought provoking podcast. Thank you.
Thanks
Amazing interview thank you
Hegel’s philosophy of a dialectical process, where contradictions (thesis and antithesis) play a crucial role in the unfolding of history and thought are at play here. . While the discourse around wokeness is intense in the present-it is ultimately transient and will resolve or evolve as time progresses.
The advice is to just observe and bring no reaction to their discourse. The struggle or contradictions are part of a larger process that will work itself out, without external intervention. Over time, the current generation (with its specific issues or ideologies) will pass, and so too will the particular discourse tied to it. History is a process of becoming, where each stage (or generation) is a necessary part of the movement towards a more developed and rational whole.
"If everyone is intelligent, nobody is.." Well, we mostly all have two eyes, but we still talk about sight, and get glasses. Intelligence will also vary during the day, and due to schooling and use of foods or drugs. This seems like Dutton needs to establish a false value to IQ, even as it would be very important even if we all were born with exactly the same potential.
Under the conditions that prevail today, the evolutionary logic may indeed suggest that intelligence has decreased OVERALL. However, there is at least one technology today that increases intelligence: the C-section, i.e., cesarean surgery. In humans, the birth canal is the primary bottleneck for head size and therefore brain size. Cesarean surgery entirely eliminates that bottleneck.
And brain size correlates 0.3-0.4 with IQ.
Head size being very close to brain size.
Interesting.
This is the most accurate assessment of reality I've heard in a very long time. Now lock him up
Fascinating interview.
Thanks
Just found this little gem of a channel. Pardon my ignorance; could someone please enlighten me. Who is Dr Philip Davies?
I agree it’s a Group safety thing . Private hospital practices are being questioned, but staff though appearing uncomfortable suport status quo. (AUstralia)
Group think may give the appearance of safety but long term is catastrophic
Best analysis of Western society I’ve heard in years. A few years ago I was starting to wonder whether it was odd my fellow Wokies were ok with a path that lead to oblivion.
As a psychologist who writes on intellliigence this guy is uneducated. I wouod recommend him to take a psychology degree and learn something about interesting.
I am psychologist too. I agree with you.
I am on Team Irving the Mesopotamia Man, regarding humanity. We have not """evolved""" (or devolved).
THIS man presents a lot of interesting ideas, but it does not seem all his ideas map to reality. EDIT: all mostly accurate data, and some nice CORRELATION. But I don't think the man has a complete holistic picture of humanity. Still interesting data.
Of course we have evolved.
All species evolve to suit the environment.
That's basic science.
Unfortunately, our environment doesn't always favour the more intelligent or healthy.
Many life forms don't need more intelligence, more obviously so, koalas.
Their ancestors are thought to have been more intelligent.
Thanks for sharing
@@drphilipdavies Also, if you care, when I was small (and medium sized) I got to eavesdrop on many conversations among women, currently married and not. They love to think they are the brains of the operation, and that men are nothing without their advice. Basically most women prefer to think they are more intelligent than the man. Anecdotal evidence, but I swear it's the truth.
I'm skeptical of the proclamations of a theologist who was found guilty of plagiarism, on the subject of human intelligence, sociology, and genetics.
The developmental process is evolution recapitulated. Everytime we evolve we extend the period of development. Due to the constraints of the birth canal with regards to cranial size this development must happen outside the womb. A longer period of development outside the womb requires more parental investment in the child. More parental investment in the child requires greater commitment and cooperation between the mother and father. In each following generation there seems to be a smaller percentage of people that reach their potential. I think this speaks to the failure of men and women to reconcile their differences and create strong families. The false narratives that we've been given could be replaced if had the courage to actually collaborate. Systems that already exist could be recruited and repurposed in the service of something new. Have a beautiful day everyone! 🌞❤️🌛
Sounds very Haeckel-like....
This is a point of difference I have with the doctor. I question the intelligence of people too stupid to reproduce, regardless of their educational achievements.
0:25 This better proper misinformation on how hormones and the glorification of ones compassion = genius
Correlations
IQ Vs knowledge: 0.5 that's a pretty strong correlation.
0.8, that's basically the same thing.
Identical twins IQ scores correlate 0.8 and the same person doing IQ tests, their test scores correlate 0.8.
So if we select more intelligent people (than us) to be around in adulthood, we might be dragged up by them.
If that happens in childhood.
Alternatively, adulthood is a time when genes are expressed more strongly (than childhood) so maybe this environmental effect would be weaker.
I think it still does exist.
It's logical...but...the universe is under no obligation to observe the dictates of logic.
Quite true. Logic is the lens through which we categorise the universe
Dutton no where says that solving puzzles - or mere practical thinking - high I.Q. score - is merely an indication of a greater readiness and willingness to focus one’s attention on un-poetic subject matter.
The over-used term “scientific genius” describes a man who lacks intelligence.
If you are interested in outlier high IQ. You should read some of Duttons work on geniuses, he discusses the concept of genius in extraordinary depth explaining where all the assumptions of the models lie where the weaknesses of the models are etc.
Unfortunately with the decline in religious practices at the same time we designed our cities to make community impossible for the advent of profit. They way our cities in the U.S. are designed separates everything and everyone so you don't know your butcher or your neighbors name.
Good point.
“At Our Wits End” lol perfect it’s perfect well deserved. Like I said civilization is the collapse not the success of the species that’s why hype is created in the first place to undermine quickly
Fascinating
Jumping in without explaining what is meant by either intelligence or "woke" is a parody of what they think they are doing, worthy of a monty python twit sketch. The suggestion at 2:20 that bigger heads have something to do with better literacy is classic.
I believe it is bigger brains relative to body size is what they are talking about, a ratio, not an absolute measurement of head size. For example, the Japanese have quite high IQs compared to whites, although they are generally smaller in body size.
Not his fault that you only watched the first few minutes.
@@thijsjong OK- to be fair, I just randomly fast forwarded to 29:15. Rather than reining himself in, Professor Plum gets further into his own feelings, saying "Women choose their partners according to greater education level, and there's fewer males with that, So they become lesbians or Cat ladies or whatever." Its not my fault I correctly anticipated the entire hour would be untethered from reality and worth no one's time. Everything he says in that sentence concerning how sexual relations arise and how sexual desire works is demonstrably false. 40 year old virgin describing a bag of sand, indeed.
@@supralogical I think you are right - and the premise is sophomoric. Intelligence is a function of synaptic density and condition, not size of anything. Some rodents have greater brain to body ratio, whales and elephants have much larger brains over all. There is no magic that makes a brain smarter if a body is smaller - or makes someone dumber if they gain 100 lbs and change their ration.
@@thijsjong OK- to be fair, I just randomly fast forwarded to 29:15. Rather than reining himself in, Professor Plum gets further into his own feelings, saying "Women choose their partners according to greater education level, and there's fewer males with that, So they become lesbians or Cat ladies or whatever." Its not my fault I correctly anticipated the entire hour would be untethered from reality and worth no one's time. Everything he says in that sentence concerning how sexual relations arise and how sexual desire works is demonstrably false. 40 year old virgin describing a bag of sand, indeed.
Great video but grim
Waiting for the "Based Byzantium"
Thanks
People with less intelligent they are not less human
Good point. Societies who didn't understand that have been guilty of serious injustice
Higher rates of criminality though 😐
Who ever said they were?
Nobody is suggesting they are, but a society with a higher proportion of them will be less advanced and more brutal
@Daniel-py6rd then why do people get angry at the suggestion some races have a lower IQ than others?
How does the average IQ of people who read theology stack up against other subjects?
On average, in between social science (except psychology) and science. Philosophy is even higher than biology but lower than Physics or Maths.
Well theology is not synonymous with philosophy. While it's true that philosophers have the third highest iq in academia, most philosophers do not believe in God. And when they do, upon scrutiny, you realize it's not the god the average believer believes in.
Hahaha
Yep. He ain’t a professor of evolutionary psychology. No idea where that bullcrap came from.
@@russellfine3079 evolutionary psychology of business. check my website for proof. it's quite sweet, in a way, the way that leftists have to literally lie to cope with this fact.
@@MrSidney9Theology is religious philosophy.
Classic example of using adjusted 'statistics' in an attempt to support a myopic, simple-minded, ridiculous and demonstrably wrong opinion. Simply put, the type specimen for paltering. I wonder how many DK effect superiority complexes this claptrap will inflict on the world...
I believe it's been falling a lot longer. Perhaps since agriculture. Population wide, that is, although it might have risen in some subsets.
I think that would depend on the environment in which agriculture is being practiced.
@grannyannie2948
OK. I'll specify an earth environment. And mention!that I said it was a possibility, not a fact.
@the_Kurgan Yes an interesting possibility. I meant Earth environments. Farming allowed larger populations which may have decreased Darwinian pressure. But some regions are easy to farm and would not require as much intelligence as environments where agriculture was difficult. I'm not saying it is so either, but it's possible.
Those with ability breed less, except for Elon Musk
The ones who do all the work and all the paying, breed less.
Elon is the only one who can afford to be the exception.
@@Brian-qg9bm Can't feed em don't breed em must be a law.
This is very perceptive and accurate it can be seen across organisms. Individual’s in a stable environment with predictable results will breed. Whereas those in a disruptive environment will try new things develop new tools and take risks because the old ways are not as predictive of the future. These things in tandem mean that the environment that creates great leaps in technology and “inelegance” will always be associated with a drop in reproductive behaviors. It will be interesting to see how the solution settles.
0:44 I've just bought the book.
Sounds to me like the work of Cyril Burt revisited.
Suddenly, Idiocracy isn't funny.
Idiocracy was satyre. Until you realise it is based on the tendencies of reality.
I actually question the intelligence of people too stupid to reproduce.
Man with the weird tie talk real funny.
I get it doe.
Woke equals Smart. Yea, I get it.
I'm the Wokest! Makes me the Smartest!
I went to college for Socilology and I got all the A's 'cause I'm the wokest ... makes me the smarterest!
😂
Ha. You need to check out Dunning Kruger....
@@drphilipdavies I will. I'll do that.
Meanwhile, you can check out where decision-making process occurs in the brain (pre-frontal cortex) vs. where the brain recognizes those of an "out-group" (amygdala).
Which is why in East Cost university studies, people who "aren't racist" still have a mind that triggers an alert signal every-single-time someone who does not look like them appears on the test screen.
Can you do that?
Can you look in to that?
Meanwhile, I'll check out Dunning Kruger.
HA ha!
I know you don't feel stupid after stomped by an internet nobody / clown, but anyone who reads these will notice?
I do live shows!
I'm available, anytime anywhere via an online connection to be schooled and learned.
Have a Merry Christmas!
@@drphilipdavies Did you actually completely misunderstand my post?
Leading to me completely misunderstanding your reaction?
Intelligent people with souls of cowards, is how we got here.
Intelligent enough to see where this road leads, means steps must be taken for the path England is on.
Merry Christmas
Interesting
Very interesting indeed.
But without God, Jesus and Biblical discernment ; you are missing so much.
But greatly appreciate this level of talk, the massive big truths that you are trying to bring out in a civilised and thoughtful way.
Philip Davies is struggling so hard to keep up with Edward.
WHAT link? There ISN'T one.
Which link were you looking for?
So that was interesting. Are you saying that the countries of the eastern world that are more conservative conformist and industrious are more healthy than the woke western dominant countries? What does this say about the cultural future in the west?
Not sure I agree with the use of left and right as political definitions, since there doesn't seem to be a left in main stream politics only varied forms of right, since the left has been destroyed in the main. Is woke a symptom of this destruction? Intelligence, now there's a subject open to be deployed as some sort of supremist attitude, as if there's less value in not very bright people.
It's nice to see how other people think about things, these are my not studied impressions of this conversation.
thanks for your comments anyway
The russian academie?
Could a public prosecution of Starmer for murder of Peter Lynch be feasible?
Dutton is likeable. I see him like the Zizek of the right. He has a lot of potential. But there remains a primary fly in his ointment which he simply cannot reconcile: on the one hand, he argues for heritability of intelligence, on the other, on the environmental impacts of intelligence. He claims that intellectual capacity increases can be noted and explained by particular environmental pressures - the greatest of which is his view that the highest classes in British society had the most intelligent children, since intelligence is .4 of success, but even if that were true, the characteristic feature of the British pre-industrial period was class immobility, ie landed aristocracy controlled all the assets so even if the children of the poor were brilliant, they would have no means of improving their social status, they remained peasant serfs, or tenant farmers after 1574. There was no means by which their lot in life might be said to be "improvable" whereby their abilities might have caused them to climb social status, whereas plenty of the children of the wealthy with low intelligence survived due to better environmental conditions and passed the genes. He used data points obtained from social science of the present day, to infer causes in the past and then makes evolutionary arguments than cannot be supported with anachronistic generalizations. If heredity determines intelligence, and heredity functions for all these associated outcomes correlated to intelligence, then the environmental impacts are irrelevant. His fundamental argument is that intelligent people are more likely to survive, because they figure out how to get themselves resources (ie rich people are the most intelligent) - dumb people don't survive on their own - thus wouldn't have had children to procreate; by implementing a system of social welfare and so-called socialist socioeconomic structures - we subsidize the dumb people synthetically and cause a decrease in general intelligence, since the intelligent and rich are too focused on their lives and education and paying for the taxes to subsidize all the dumb and poor and their many children which they couldn't have afforded were it not for the rich and smart. In other words - his argument is that smart people produce smart children and dumb people produce dumb children, but this isn't AT all how genetics works and why no one credible takes him seriously. You get 23 chromosomes from your mother and 23 from your father. But you don't inherit 25% of your genes from each of your grandparents, but something like 0-37%. Some of your ancestors are totally left out, others contribute more. You don't inherit 12.5% from each great grandparent but something like 0-24%. Not only is your direct proportion of genetic inheritance mixed up, but additionally, each time the chromosomes split and recombine, they do so randomly as well, to create new genetic variability, so each child is not only a product of their own parental DNA, they're also a product of the random sequences imposed on nature to force genetic variability - so that by the time you go back 400 years - you are no more related to any of your direct ancestors than you are to a random human from the generic human DNA pool. Put simply, being an intelligent parent does not guarantee having intelligent children as anyone with children will confirm.
Theres so m@ny experts in the comments section. The iq is killing me. 😂
Generic engineering needed.
Or we could wait for 50% child mortality?
I don't want that or the troubles before it, after now.
Correct about psychopaths and right wing choices
Define intelligence.
Most accept it in plain speak as the ability to solve complex problems
Fascinating and while I agree with MOST of this I suspect that you could stand to be a bit more socially woke with your commentary. Also I dare say in USA we are simply NOT WOKE enough, example we just elected Trump. So conservatisum is not the intellegent choice. Also I started conservative and have swung mostly Liberal with exception of National Security and a clue that ocasionally rarely Death penality might be called for, juzst rarely.
It is really amazing how someone tries to interpolate English class system on international demographics .
And it is so wrong . During 1950 ties ( teenage years of my mother) you could have lived a happy life and still end up with more fingers than female PhD s you know personally .
Now fast forward to 2020 and there are more female university graduates with master degree than man in most subjects
So the fact that society is getting less intelligent is an delusion
What he probably wanted to say is that nowadays you can rise to the top academically and you would not get anything for it not even status .And even having a PhD today in medieval history is only a nice gesture but willn t feed a family of 4
FIRE🖤
Why did he presume that people on welfare have an IQ of around 90, criminals around 80, etc?
29:33 So, the less intelligent women select men who are less likely to be very intelligent.
In general women select equally or more intelligent men than themselves, however intelligent they are. Everyone can recognise similarity.
Sorry to be paranoid, but youtube won't let me like this video.
Woke means being awake. Seeing what's going on. It still means this.
According to Elon Musk Wokeism is intolerance dressed up as manners
Being awake is kind of a low threshold. They may be attuned to problems they see but the actions that they take like BLM for example are absolutely horrible. My favorite disconnect lately is Gays and lesbians for Palestine !!
@@vivalaleta Every woke person fervently believe they're right and have no tolerance for other opinions. Basis of fascism, communism...or ordinary Russians.
Word meanings evolve and can have multiple meanings. Your definition works for what being woke initially meant, awareness of social injustices; which do exist. However, the term has taken on another meaning that is now more prevalent, at least amongst certain demographics; that is a pejorative one. My definition would be hypersensitivity and awareness to racism, identity politics Trans rights, and other leftist obsessions to a degree that is not based in reality or common sense.
@@latetotheparty184 Sounds rather christian actually--love your enemy and all that jazz.
You would have to be deluded to even consider there is a link between Wokness and Intelligence 😂😂😂... a five year old knows when something is wrong.
Dutton to generalize, as you do, seems so irresponsible. There is the whole wide world. I am happy that your host is staying on top of this. Interesting nonetheless.
it's so hilarious that this guy rattles off an a list of things that he says have contributed to a lower IQ, and the host just hears the list and decides the guest gas produced "an "impressive array of evidence." Guest's real name is Edward Dunning, host is freddy kruger
describing brain as muscle ain't particularly intelligent! but interesting talk. pity he has to resort to the word race and not environmental group - difficult as this is not 'intended' to be racist.
He's too generalised in what he says. I.e. far or extreme right or left or far or extreme left. I'm sure there are people out there, if you took their beliefs and behaviours in isolation would fit into extreme right, extreme left and many points on the scale in-between.
3:30
Ed is wrong on birthrates
What part?
Wholeness and intelligents is an oxymoron
This comedy was not funny enough. Less educated is a better description. Stupider, is possibly provable.
Many thanks
It seemed to be a little of both.
Women select for intellegence not necessarily success. My high IQ daughter and Myself booth intentionally screened for high IQ men! I did not give a care to high income, ethics and smarts and yes basic reliable emploment
This guy is really full of it. That initial splodge was a textbook case of zero scientific substance. Starting with any respectable attempt to define "intelligence." Moving on to the nutty idea that the high infant morality rate had anything to do with intelligence.
I score 85 to 105 after years of testing. I believe I am smarter than the average person. Could IQ be a misleading score?
Everyone believes they are smarter than the average person
Maybe the average person isn't intelligent.
Cognitive problems are not social problems. One need a good level of EQ and its probably more important than IQ. We are social animals.
🙄 .They are when the public needs understand complex issues in a democracy.
I work around a lot of scientists that i can have complex discussions with but not my co-workers.
Very frustrating, gets very tiring trying to explain things
EQ is largely a feminist scam to elevate socially dumb people
We are social animals with nuclear warheads, nanometric forges and embryonic spacefare.
EQ is of importance while dealing with people under the Dunbar's number. So family and tribe scales.
It doesn't help you fathom the complexity on an internationalized chain of supply, the maintenance of a dam or the side-effects of a bilateral trade agreement. Those subjects needed IQ to be conceived and need IQ to be maintained. A technostructure that is not mastered anymore turns against its users/neighbours, creating social problems on its own.
@@evrardwergild1677 "It doesn't help you fathom the complexity on an internationalized chain of supply" - inherently fragile - humans were never built for globalization, and here in lies the problem. ALL large scale human structures are doomed to fail. Agriculture & civilization are the most prominent example. Grain based societies will always collapse.
@@evrardwergild1677Thank you for writing more concisely what I intended to here.
Phillip Davies can’t pronounce his ‘R’s’ - (‘arse’?) - or his ‘L’s’ - mumble, mumbwle, mumbwoo.
I find such men always dodge the main point.
Has anyone else noticed that?
Happy mumble mumblemas.
40% chance of breeding!?
OMG!
What a silly thesis.
That all that you can do is just say "a silly thesis" with no further proof - no evidence - not even a sense of an attempt at a cogent argument - and merely an assertion is rather a kind of proof of the point he is making in that you are the sort of person who does not even feel compelled to provided even a semblance of an argument. It's more telling on the kind of person you are than on his thesis which your behavior only helps to confirm.
@@pascalbercker7487 Edward Dutton was "let go" from Oulu for plagiarising a student’s dissertation. He purports (contrary to the vast majority of the statistical evidence) that variation in intelligence and other characteristics are almost entirely biologically determined. That thesis is utterly "silly" and a passing knowledge of either evolution, economic development, or the measures of body weight, hight or IQ over the past century should satisfy anyone that his silliness need not be addressed; however Zach B. Hancock has this very good video on heredity th-cam.com/video/JHWmokGr6W8/w-d-xo.html
@@nickhbt See their website. Never fired. Cope.
This dude is full of crap. He thinks it’s intelligence that causes people to be less religious. No it’s not! It’s education that drives atheism. Sixty years ago Americans were far more religious. Did Americans become significantly more intelligent or did they just become more educated? It’s obviously the latter. He also hints that Europeans are more intelligent because they had to survive colder climate which he obviously assumes takes more intelligence to do. I have two response:
(1) doesn’t it also takes great intelligence for the Africans to survive among dangerous predators that are much stronger and quicker ?
(2) why do the Eskimos have IQ ten points lower than whites, despite evolving in cold climate?
Hurts your woke feels, does it?
This sounds to me like nonsense. Full of absurd certainty.
He takes small studies (that haven't replicated) and presents them with absolute conviction, while drawing links of causality that are not warranted not proved.
More bollocks...