Timestamps: 0:00 - Animal with the strongest kick - Best long distance runners 9:50 - Best animal to domesticate(custom pets) - Wojtek, Soldier Bear 20:51 - Guest Intro/ Mauler's experience watching Hasan's stream - >Metalcommander Arrives 30:07 - Recap from 143 & 147 39:10 - It begins/ Stolen Valour - Compilation of Hasan just leaving, "True"/ His community 50:25 - >What is MXC?/ Difference in content then and now 56:15 - >Skeletor would be a better streamer - Wireless headphones 1:05:09 - More Hasan content - On eating while streaming 1:05:09 - How he handles disagreements with chat - Another chatter falls and another one 1:28:02 - Destiny's reaction, ‘I have been doing this for a long time’ - and another, another , another, aaand another one 1:44:30 - Giving credit? 1:56:20 - “Noticeable spike in viewers” - Hasan's thoughts on EFAP/ 'It's all about numbers' 2:19:00 - ‘I don’t know who they are', ‘doing it for clout’ - On Mundane Matt 2:32:43 - Everyone watching everyone's content - (another one)/ Banned words in Hasan's chat 2:45:29 - Hasan's thoughts on fair use - XqC's Olympics DMCA 3:02:40 - >SFO leaves 3:06:11 - Hasan chat:'Why not It's transformative just like youtube' Hasan: ‘Dude ... ... ... no it's not.’ - He knows what fair use is? 3:20:58 - Suggest approved content? ‘No no, that’s insane' - Maueler doing the impossible (according to Hasan)/ How copyright works 3:29:56 - Hasan's thoughts on Destiny's explanation 3:32:26 - Artist paid in exposure - Artist's reaction 3:40:53 - Poll for the name of the Hasan video - Names from chat - - The Tomorrow War Section - - 3:55:52 - Thoughts on The Tomorrow War - The many layers of dumb 4:17:11 - Clip: Mauler learns about Filmento's Tomorrow War video Video intro & talks with Filmento/ The description 4:23:37 - Video Starts/ Changing it up and being positive 4:27:05 - >Chat tisms: Training civilians 4:33:53 - ‘I don’t review movies, because grades don't matter' - >Chat tisms: ‘Didn’t finish his point' 4:45:47 - Captured Queen intelligence, ‘alien evolution’ - The positives 4:51:26 - Is this satire? - “The established goals and plot beats rarely occur as intended but instead in a failed way that increases their difficulty and tension, and so on so on.” 4:53:17 - Trying to figure out what this is ⤴ - Toxin plot thread, finding the alien spaceship 5:03:45 - Falling from the sky/ It exists for itself - The mission once they get into the future 5:19:11 - “The film continually alters the deal” - “Grow the obstacles and in turn reduce the boredom” 5:32:47 - “Negatively altering the deal”, “Praying you don't alter it any further” - “Crafts a very easily distinct and memorable identity for itself” 5:32:47 - Dan's father, “He isn't some random person, but instead in terms of this story actually very specific." 5:44:19 ->CW's Supergirl promo image, Power Rangers pose 5:48:53 - Dan's relationship with his (younger) daughter 5:52:20 - Intermission/ Jay's tweet on Hasan - >Rags restarts discord 5:55:27 - Pain cont./ “One big futuristic Science Fiction allegory of the Vietnam war” - Trying to figure out what ⤴ 5:59:10 - >Meme: Filmento (Evolution of the meme) 6:01:07 - “Enemies are so unlike us they are basically an alien race” what
what 6:07:15 - Mauler translates the Filmento code - 'GoT is all about the throne'/ Character relationships about different things 6:14:36 - The movie's timelines, "share a clear relationship of cause and effect" - “The present does not remain as is”..."the war has an effect" 6:23:43 - Translation, ‘Both timelines work on the same problem’ - Soundtrack 6:32:30 - Translation, ‘Using information in the future, they benefit in the past’ - More soundtrack/ “Family” 6:41:27 - Dan's relationship with his (older) daughter 6:47:44 - "The certainty in the stakes of tomorrow, ultimately sets the stakes in the today" - “Born of his sins that he hasn't yet committed” 6:52:36 - “Watch this back to back with-” [NO] 6:54:07 - I can't take it anymore! - “A few non-general specific” 6:56:50 - Sponsor segment - >Coins in the wallet? An extra step compared to pockets? 7:20:30 - >Wallet in the back pocket?/ Coin use - Washing machines 7:31:30 - >Use of Electronic cash v physical - >Removal of coins 7:38:03 - >Sponsored wallet cost - >How it works 7:50:17 - >How money looks/ History of US money 7:57:28 - >Metal Leaves 8:00:31 - >Weird stream problems [audio returns at 8:02:29] - >Collecting old money 8:19:53 - >Alias eps. time travel 8:25:05- Last 30 seconds/ Rags finds his old stuff /Video ends 8:29:24 - Superchats start: - Hello's/ Kong EFAP?/ 10 Emu sized giraffes or Giraffe sized Emu/ Giraffe kick /Card/ Zebras/ UK English - DMC Revieew/ Giraffe Fight/ Tonald v Hasan's mom/ Given up on a video?/ Endurance hunting 8:41:26 - Banned on Hasan's stream/ Patreon donation EFAP movies?/ Horse v Human/ Urban Fantasy/ A ghost story - Last till the end/ Guard geese/ Komodo Dragon, gympie gympie, or piranhas/ Orca whales 8:51:00 - Loki, what determines a 2 or 3/ Extremist otaku/ Racoon or Red Panda/ Most brutal movie death scene - Hasan orbiters/ Stinger-less bumblebee/ Dev./ No Nuggies/ Domesticate for looks 9:07:39 - Jabberslythe/ Star-Trek Critics & Changes/ Recasting/ Scariest animal uprising 9:24:29 - Gnomes/ CoD games/ Hasan Unfollow/ Chase, Mark, & M/ xenomorph pet/ Time cristal/ Grandma - Make Hasan care/ Cannon fodder/ GTA: SA good British films/ SFO/ Anime 9:35:52 - Suicide Squad music/ Kartman or Hasan/ Rags swims/ Simp Loki/ Hotest sweedish guy/ Daredevil - Rate memers/ Life back/Aqua Teen Hunger Force/ Veteran Hat/ Navy GF/ Banned/ Bernie 9:49:38 - End of Stream Announcements: - Snyder Cut EFAP Movies soon - Mauler Video WIP - Metal Stream on Friday - EFAP #149 Saturday - #150 Approaches Snip: 6:23:43 - Rags is done, Mauler is done, Fringy is done, Metal is It's all GDLB 6:49:49 - “Just go just go go, it don't make sense just go” - "The corn sauce of this emotion"
Thank you so much, this episode was a surprising classic, just like the last one, and I knew I could count on you to help me jump right to the Tomorrow War Tism I need on rewatch
I don't think anyone covered on EFAP has pissed me off as much as Hasan. He's such a petty, power-mad, priviliged man-child that I wonder if he's even capable of happiness. He seems to see every perceived dissent as a personal attack. Why anyone would voluntarily watch, let alone give money to, this absolute cabbage is a complete mystery to me.
@@led-0185 not tribalism, identity politics and farthest left cult bs. Tribalism and intellectualism aren’t mutually exclusive just unlikely bedfellows. This guys a prime example of the worst human traits period.
This Stream made it abundantly clear where we stand. EFAP chat is disgusted... EFAP Crew is disgusted... Hassan don't have morals... The chair is carrying the whole show.
Hassan's talking about revolution and changing the world order meanwhile he gets the most insignificant nanogram of power to ban people from his chat and he becomes an apex tyrant. I'm expecting them to get out the digital guillotine and start speaking french pretty soon lol.
You dont need to make a French revolution metaphor, his org is litteraly called The Young Turks. The historical young turks comparisons are pre packaged for our pleasure in this case. We should be makeing fewer jokes about Hassan and Guiloteens and more about him sending his followers to invade Russia in the winter with shoes made of cardboard.
@@wishuponamonkeyspaw2458 A few years ago there was a halhearted attempt to start refering to far lefties as 3rd Worlders because of their almost universal adoration of 3rd world shitholes across the globe. It kind of petered out when the stormfront guys started using it but I for one was always a little sad that this new branding effort failed. Maybe someday we can bring it back.
I’ve always put up with EFAP’s antics before, but I think 10 hours straight of criticizing Hasan is too much for me. Not only did the man serve in the Korean War, but he was also drafted into the future to fight in the Korean War 2. The man is a hero.
3:33:00 I swear to God I had a brain aneurysm watching Hassan's response to artist. I'm a very small artist myself and I can understand having to go alot of time on a piece of art just for it to go unnoticed at all and Hassan thinking "exposure" is enough fucking infuriated me. Most Artists hates being paid in "exposure" for our time
I know a lot of people like to think of themselves as good people, but the gap between how good of a person Hasan thinks he is and how good he ACTUALLY is has to be some kind of world record.
To defend Hasan....slightly. I can see how it would be unreasonable to be expected to support any artist who does something for you when you had zero input in requesting that art. However, when you buy merchandise that someone had made with stolen art at the very least you should tip the artist what you paid for the shirt, and that's bare minimum.
@@iainmcdonalds4018 i feel like the least he could have done, the bare minimum if he was gonna pay the artist in "exposure" would have been to at least have several links to the artist and actually tell people to follow them other leaving them a simple like and retweet. But Hassan doesn't know any better to do even that.
It's gonna be really difficult for any EFAP villain after this to top Hasan knowing what fair use is then basically admitting to going against it, and Filmento comparing world destroying aliens from the future to Vietnamese people.
2:54:00 if anyone was curious as to the reasoning why Mauler is so invested and miffed by the Hasan ordeal with Jay, then this will probably rationalize most of it. Essentially, as Fringy rightfully pointed out, if this becomes a larger issue then the negative end result would be more stringent copyright enforcement. Which has the potential of incidentally harming EFAP despite what they do to be the antithesis of Hasan's content. Might as well address the issues now, before it becomes worse and everyone loses in the end
Hasan could just put a cardboard cutout of himself in front of the camera and play a "true" voice line every 40min and nobody would even notice, they would all think he's there, reacting.
no joke I havent had a coin on my person in about 2 months now. In the UK I had a shitload of coins on the daily, and it was a massive pain in the ass.
@@Soapy-chan_old Actually, my friend from Singapore who visited the US mocked us for having Credit Card technology years behind the times. When I finally visited Singapore, they had the tap credit cards years before my local Chase bank would even issue a card with a chip in it. Eventually we'd catch up with the tap cards, but I found it interesting that US banks would be so slow to update the technology.
3:16:36 Hasan (Verbal): Using what the broadcaster is saying as like... basically uh.... uh seasoning.. for... my... Hasan (Internal thoughts during lag): *Don't say chicken nuggets, don't say chicken nuggies, DON'T SAY MY MOMS CHICKEN TENDIES* Hasan (Verbal cont.): Uh seasoning for my commentary. Hasan (Internal thoughts): *Phew! Saved it! Hopefully nobody noticed that, I'd have to ban them*
@@MrVeps1 it's probably more of an internal dialogue than a monologue. We established last Time That he doesn't know who the Voice in his head belongs to and why it Sounds just like him.
Listening to the coin purse discussion reminded me of that scene from the Wallace and Grommit movie, where Grommit is grappling with the villains bulldog in a coin operated rocket. As they are fighting the rocket gives off a chime letting them know that it needs more coins. So they both stop fighting and Grommit pulls some change from his pocket of his ??fursuit?? and fumbles around with the coins looking for the right amount. The Bulldog stops him and pulls out a flowery coin purse from which he pulls out a coin for the rocket. Then they continue fighting.
@@Party_Almsivi funny that you mentioned Vinesauce. because despite being a streamer that focused on playing games, He makes a lot more effort on his streams than both Destiny and Hasan
@@shumono3254 well.../made/ a lot more effort...since those clout-chasing hoe-bags tried to make up some nonsense me-too stuff about him, and he took his break from streaming. I’m proud of him though, because he didn’t try to appease them to get it to go away, my boy Vinny lawyered up instantly. And those skanks ain’t been too noisy since, so it must have worked out. And he’s doing pre-recorded uploads instead of streams now, so he’s still kicking.
@@shumono3254 I've been watching Vinny since 2012 and you're 100% right. The man only got better over time as well, more effort, more community interaction, more interesting Sunday's and charity streams. Vinesauce is the shit.
I love how the humans are apparently losing with time travel in this film, when in Edge of Tomorrow time travel gave the aliens near 100% flawless victory on every front every time.
Not just that, in Edge of Tomorrow only a few dozen aliens can time travel and only by a few days at most, and THAT is enough to score them a victory rate of nearly 100%
@@mertarican5456I’m really late on this but yes. It’s based off the manga All You Need is Kill. The manga is probably better than the movie but tbh I like the movie more.
I need to retake my history class to learn about the events of the Cold War. I forgot about the Korean War veteran who stole content whilst eating nuggies of the chicken variety and how America's efforts to take over Vietnam's government was stopped by the Vietcong army consisting of soldiers that were alien specimen.
EFAP and transformative content: where they can argue about wallets for 40 minutes based on a single frame of a Filmento Wallet ad. Hassan, get your ship together.
@@voicingdragoon7 the missing component in this conversation is this: Inflation has rendered American coins almost useless. Our most common coins are a quarter of a dollar or less. Yet there is very little you can buy in person these days for less than a dollar. Candy, soda, trinkets, etc all tend to cost well over a dollar, if not 2 or 3 (or more). Vendors tend to round up to even dollar amounts even at fairs and whatnot. For me personally, I will put coins in my wallet - but after a few transactions, it's better off just keeping a jar of coins and depositing it later at the bank for bigger (more useful) bills. Because otherwise I'd be carrying a handful of coins that I could barely buy one item with. Hopefully that makes sense?
So someone's work got stolen. It was made for Hassan specifically. By member of his community, someone who is passionate about being a part of Hassan's community clearly, to the point where they make fanart of and for Hassan. He bought the T-shirt from what is essentially criminals, and when the artist tells him what happened, he won't even move a finger to help despite all of his wealth. Pay attention lefties. This is your champion of the people. This guy is totally a socialist. Sits on millions, won't even give a penny. He won't even help/protect his own, yet people take political advice from this guy... about socialism. Imagine that.
@@arenkai No, this man is a socialist. He is the poster child for your movement. You don't get to play No True Scotsman about one of the most well-known public faces of your political philosophy.
If I was making Hassan money I would have on the spot offered a licensing deal. Make us both some money AND get good will from community. Unlimited use of the image in my merch store for 10% of the revenue, not profit, revenue. Or 10k flat for licensing. I would take care of the people that pay for my high wattage nuggie lifestyle. Hassan's reaction: Fuck you I gave you attention!
I haven't seen Tomorrow War, but the first thing I thought was, wait, you got time on your side. A lot of it. You go back in time and set people on a training program to fight these particular aliens, then you go forward to when they would be done with that training, and THEN bring them to war. You could do that in every time period. You could have everyone who ever existed ready to fight those aliens.
I mean possibly. I've never seen it, so I don't know how their time travel works, but I would have really liked to see that it was realistic time travel. As in, you create a wormhole at X point in time, and at any point in the future, you can go back through it, but you can't choose where you go in the wormhole's history. You can only go back to the beginning of the wormhole. You can't time travel back to before the wormhole was made, and you might not even be able to travel back to the future through it. A one way wormhole that sends them back to the moment that said wormhole was created. You could have had a really cool movie where humanity created this wormhole, and then 12 months later, Earth was attacked by aliens and everything is fucked. Now, you can go back to 12 months before the alien invasion and try to prepare, but you can't fuck around and go to every time period ever.
@@clairetellkamp6253the way it works is: at the moment their wormhole is made they linked past and future like 2 ships, from that moment on, one day in future is one day in past. And the only people that get sent back/forward are those who weren't born then/have already died respectively. And the return trip from the future is determined by basically some recall tech surgically installed on their forearm that drags them back to their home time when signaled by some central tower signal.
They show they have weaponized drones in the future so they should've just mass produced those in the past and sent those to fight instead of sending untrained civilians
This would have been a good one to have Internet Historian on since he let's people play his videos in full. I agree with EFAP on the requirement of being transformative, I'd be curious to see if Historian agrees.
Eh, I doubt his perspective would be much different. I've yet to see him leave a positive comment under a video where reactor fucking leaves the room and lets a chair do his job.
I'm sure IH knows that they would watch his videos on anyway. Plus his videos have such a unique asthetic and voice. Like if you watched a Joel Haber animation, you would know it even without the video saying it is by him. IH has probably given more views to reactors then they could possibly give to his videos.
It's like me trying to write in Japanese. I feel sorry for the guy because he's trying really hard to be good at English when if he just kept it simple the writing would be a lot better.
It's shockingly easy. I've fallen into wordsalad numerous times, and always cringe hard when I read it back to myself. And I'm talking in comment sections and reddit threads. Takes alot of time to refine a gut response or emotion into a real coherent paragraph (or more). It's very common on first drafts. Probably explains how they get videos out so fast...
While on one hand I _do_ feel a little bad for that artist that Hasan “paid in exposure”, at the same time, clearly this person is a big fan of his. Which means that there’s no way they haven’t witnessed him being a terrible person to everyone, including his own loyal fans, and yet somehow still liked him enough to make that art of him. Obviously what Hasan did was terrible, but I dunno, you must not have had _that_ much of an issue with him being so awful if you were still a fan of his. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes and all that jazz.
I mean, yes he's a fan so boo/he's seen enough to see this coming, but still... Social links are hard to cut and he's basically being robbed and spat on, so let's not piss on the ashes eh?
Oof, ya'll completed eviscerated Hasan, not like it's really that difficult... but still bravo. Also, why is Destiny laughing and applauding this behavior? Get gulag'd, wrongthinker!
Don't forget that it started by Jay Exci accidentally noticing a small increase of viewers and then going onto Twitter asking which streamer was is this time.
Hasan would never ask anyone for brake light fluid. He would walk in planning to take it without paying, and proudly exclaim he’s looking for it when asked.
As an ethnic Korean myself with older relatives who fought and suffered in the Korean War, all I could react with to Hasan's comment about stealing valor from Korean war veterans... was complete and utter disgust. What an abhorrent, disrespectful piece of garbage. I'm just hoping that there IS some context that Hasan just hasn't mentioned or we haven't seen yet so that we can, at the very LEAST, understand why he's saying that... but given Hasan's track record, I highly doubt it.
I'm not entirely sure it counts as stolen valor. He's not actually claiming to have fought in the Korean War, he's also obviously too young anyway. I think it would be more accurate to say he's just mocking military veterans by ironically wearing a Korean Vet hat, which isn't a terribly great thing to do.
It's because he thinks it's funny. Unlike other edgy jokes that involve someone doing something terrible, Hassan thinks all he has to do is just say he's doing something with a straight face for it to be funny. Either that or he has absolutely no respect for anyone in the military, which is equally as likely,
Royaux Not sure even that is a fair criticism since he’s actually mocking trans racialists, “stealing calories” from Korean War veterans is merely the way he does that, but it doesn’t really imply anything bad about them. If anything trans people should be the ones offended since he’s unwittingly using the most classic base level anti trans argument XD
It seems to me like Filmento is being passive aggressive. The audience asked for more positivity and he's like: "Oh yeah? If that's what you want, idiots, I'm just gonna point at a piece of shit and call it a masterpiece." Also, Rags, I've heard that sitting on your wallet can ruin your spine.
So I usually listen to these while I'm drawing or otherwise looking at something else, and every time you cut to Hasan about to say something there's a complete silence that lasts long enough for me to wonder if the video froze.
That would be like the robots from Terminator going back in time to pick up other robots to fight their war instead of going back to kill the enemy leader.
They're talking about giraffes and zebras killing things with kicks, but I think their kicks would be preferable than being on the receiving end of what an elephant or hippo can do. Either the force of a semi pressing into you, turning you into a stain on the ground, or being crushed like a grape in something's mouth. There's also kangaroos and ostriches. They have a serious kick. Maybe not as strong as a giraffe or zebra, but they have claws that can tear you apart.
you got me thinking about elephants and how many kill humans a years. I was surprised they broke even a hundred honestly. Then really depressed people are still trying to poach them.
PewDiePie has the 9-year-old Army, and 12-year-old Army and so on. Petition for EFAP Panel to refer to EFAP Chat as "Nuggies/Our Nuggies". Can already hear Rags and Weekend Warrior saying, "What's up, my nuggies?" And all the "Unlisted Nuggies" rising to uphold The Long until the reupload.
It really doesn’t feel like EFAP 150 is literally just around the corner. I guess because I was here for the 100 hype, the comparatively small hype for this milestone feels like nothing. Still, can’t wait to see another year marker for EFAP, early congrats to you massives. Edit: apparently chat had another small tism and I wasn’t there again. This is really forming a pattern huh…
@@aaronmueller1560 It's me translating what I would say in my tongue, but english reading folks had hardly any problems in a decade of my previous comments being put all over TH-cam, so naaaah... Honest truth: If it's me, sorry, but if it's you, I'll be as fine as I've been for longer than ten years, so I'll leave your comments and mine alone, right there, for everyone else to add if need be. You do enjoy your day. 🙂 Ps: "Top that" is well known. Slice of fried gold is from Shawn of the dead and everyone else has responded nicely to everything else I've put out so far, so happy to say: after doing some looking around, I'm bringing my points across just fine, exept for your sake/in your case. Did you feel insulted, or confused..? Honest with ya', from twenty comments with actual replies in the last two days... Everyone is doing fine with my current "wording". So I'll ask: What seems to be your bother? Ps.2: If it's a joke/sarcasm, then I apologize, but I'm currently working from home and double tongues is hard to handle with my "brain configuratism", let's say... 😓
Hassan on the Stolen Art Shirt: Well the guy i bought the shirt from just seized the means of production he's a true Comrade. The Party will give some exposure to make it all good
Just to answer your question, most of the content is being stolen from people smaller than them. This means that striking people like Hassan could lead to not only the end of your carrier, but an insane wave of hatred, threats, and doxing. The only reason the bigger news sites and regular media haven’t is because Hassan is ultimately a nobody when you look at the context of the industry. That is to say, he has so little impact that they just haven’t noticed the problem (consider how long it took the music industry to bust down twitch’s door).
On the coin subject, my old roommate always called them "anti-money" just because the space and weight of carrying them isn't worth the value they bring.
Yeah... I don't think an force of untrained militia would have the morale to fight after being hurtled thousands of feet to the ground and losing the majority of their personnel. I'm certain IRL any military organization would consider that wave of cannon fodder expended after that, and send another hoping nothing fucks up this time.
@@vadandrumist1670 He's Two episode behind... I think he's still going strong. Ps, I've checked, hence why I only gave the one timeskip/ timestamp pointer.
I can't remember what the movie's called, but it's about these parents taking revenge on people who kidnapped their daughter. One of the kills in it has the father propping open the door of a microwave so it works while open, and sticking one of the heads in it. Looked kind of like the death in scanners when the guy's head explodes
6:09:34 Mauler was worried that Filmento was about to make a terrible argument about Game of Thrones and was dreading it... AND THEN HE MADE AN EVEN WORSE ARGUEMENT.
Hasan might be genuinely small-minded enough, that he assumes that everyone's reaction is as terrible as his own. So yeah, from his perspective, react content could be threatened by that.
I can't speak for other fandoms but a chat group willing to power through a 10 hour stream aint nothing to take lightly. They either some flavor crazy or determined as hell, either way you don't mess wit that.
Rags is definitely right on wallets when it comes to how often they are used in America. I have never had a reason to keep coins in a wallet and find that putting coins in a wallet creates an uncomfortable bulge in the wallet that makes it much more uncomfortable to put in my pocket than just putting the coins in the pocket. The reason why it creates an uncomfortable bulge in the wallet in America is because you would need so many coins to get anything using just coins that you would need to carry a ton of coins. In America there just isn't enough of a reason to need coins to justify keeping them on you at all when you can just carry a few dollars on you instead, they take up less space, you can carry a lot more currency in dollar form in general, rather than needing to find space to carry the amount of coinage that you would need if you weren't using bills. The only time you ever actually have coins on you is when you've bought something and are given coins to cover the difference of what you've paid. There is literally never a time which requires you to have coins on you at all in America.
I suppose it's different down there where your dollar is a bill. As a Canuck, I tend to keep a lot of 1s and 2s in my wallet, and while it does create a bulge, it makes for a quick way to pay for coffee, snacks, or soda.
Either way, them pissing on minimalist wallets is so fucking snooty. I hate it when Rags mounts his high horse to call everything he doesn't understand fucking stupid. These wallets are expensive but he's neglecting to mention that they last forever. I have a Ridge wallet, burnt titanium and it's gorgeous, comfortable, discreet, and I won't need to buy a wallet every few years. Even has a coin tray. Also, those straps are very tight. Most importantly, I was one of those people who put so much useless crap in my wallet and I was basically forced to stop that.
@@yoursodumn I have a 10 dollar wallet, its lasted me over a decade now.... But say it crapped out, in my entire lifetime I'd spend less than half the amount buying new wallets as you would on a single wallet if it was the last wallet you ever bought.
@@redbearington3345 did you miss the other parts? I don't mind if you enjoy having a 10 dollar wallet. Sometimes people like spending money on nice things.
@@yoursodumn The other parts eh? All you said was "it will last me a long time." That was you're one and only defense of the cost. Nothing else you said defends the cost. When you only say 1 thing, then yeah there are no other parts and I'm not going to respond to "I like how it looks." or "I cant carry as much stuff in it." which would actually be a criticism of it. Sometimes people like wasting money on stupid shit I agree. I dont enjoy having a 10 dollar wallet any more than I would enjoy a 500 dollar wallet. It's the most irrelevant thing I can imagine. Its a thing you stick money in than stick in your pocket. As long as it fulfills that function it's good. If you want to spend a crapload of money on something like that then you're an idiot. It's like spending 500 dollars for a pen. A 50 cent pen writes, a 500 dollar pen writes, so only a moron would buy a 500 dollar pen.
I'm American and I agree with Rags about coins. Why carry around a wallet full of coins if you rarely, if ever, need them? You get change, drop it in one of your front pockets, get home, drop it into a jar or whatever, and then if you know you're gonna need coins for laundry or whatever you can take the specific coins you need - quarters, specifically. There are no reason to have a bunch of nickles, dimes, and pennies accumulating in your wallet, carried with you every single day, when you barely ever need those smaller coins.
I don't know how it is in America, but a lot of shops in the UK still have a minimum spend on cards. So, if you're out and about and suddenly wanna buy a can of soda or whatever you'll probably need change. Bare in mind probably the most important part of this, most countries don't have the equivalent of a 1 dollar bill, and I can tell you from my job a LOT of people in the UK are still using coins. Plus we all kinda start off doing the change in the pocket/put it in a jar thing when we're kids, and then (not meant to sound condescending) we grow up and get a big boy wallet, get rid of change by spending it on the go with smaller purchases rather than keeping it around the house collecting dust or in your pocket out of sight out of mind so you don't even know how much change you have and end up just breaking notes when you don't have to, thus accumulating more change. I can tell you anybody who goes from keeping coins in their pocket to in their wallet rarely if ever goes back. Anyway, I look forward to pocket vs wallet being the new Christmas Vs Halloween on EFAP, certainly a more interesting discussion than anything related to the Filmento video that preceded it.
I'm Canadian, and coins are more common here. Like, we've got $1 and $2 coins, as well as quarters, dimes, and nickels. The whole conversation on stream mildly frustrated me because there's no "right answer" there, it's different for different places and people
7:00:00 [ The Coin Contention ] Fringy- mentions they have $1 and $2 coins like its a very common thing Rags does not mention that the largest, most highly prevalent denomination for coins in America, is 25 cents. We do have half dollars and the Sacagawea dollar, but those are pretty rare, and kind of considered a novelty in my experience. Due to the size similarity, very rarely you may find Sacagawea dollars have been used as quarters accidentally in vending machines. So most people in America, as far as I know, do not commonly use coins that have a greater value than 25cents in day to day life. I think this might contribute to people not putting them in their wallets, since you would hardly ever pay for something primarily with coins. Rather, people consider it more convenient to overpay with bills and get change back. I wasn't sure if this joke was just American or not, but; "Don't you hate it when someone tries to count out exact change? Grandma counting her pennies out here, holding up the damn line." This joke is a sentiment shared widely in America. I don't know if it's the same elsewhere, but how our coins are might be partially to blame? Out of order timestamp, but it relates to 7:04:30 ; It is grandma who usually DOES use a coinpurse, so rifling around in her pockets isn't even the problem here. You just don't commonly see people counting out 23 quarters, a nickel, a dime, and 7 pennies to pay for things. Additionally, of the common coins used- pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters- all of these are of easily differentiated sizes and widths. I would like to stress that these 4 sizes are common to the point of near exclusivity. Which is why carrying them loose in a pocket isn't an issue. I guess I couldn't make a broad statement about all people, but I've never met any other American who can't tell these 4 coins apart by feel alone. The only issue might be something like the aforementioned Sacagawea dollar, but I literally have not seen one of those in a decade. This is not hyperbole. As I have seen it, people usually just hand over an extra bill, and the cashier- who has all the coins neatly organized and laid out before them, does not have to unzip an additional pouch or pocket and rifle around in it, and are much quicker at counting coins out than you probably are- simply hands you back your change. It's a matter of expedience, convenience, and courtesy to the people behind you in line. If you are one of those people who insists on using exact change, but you count it out while you're waiting in line BEFORE getting to the counter... honestly God bless. I'm serious. Thank you. 7:02:40 Rags: Is it weird to put your wallet in your back pocket? Mauler: It is if you're gonna complain about sitting on your wallet. Rags does not complain about sitting on his wallet. Rags only complains about sitting on a wallet which has coins in it. Rags does not keep coins in his wallet, which means he is not complaining about sitting on his wallet. I have now deduced that Rags is definitely complaining about sitting on someone else's wallet. How terrible. 7:02:50 Rags: I might want to put other stuff in my front pockets, potentially. Mauler: *with great amusement* Potentially. I don't understand why that was funny, because it does seem pretty reasonable. A front pocket is safer for delicate material than a back pocket. If you can relegate a wallet to be safely stored in a back pocket, you have an additional front pocket ready for objects that it's impossible to do this with. 7:03:00 (Fringy and Mauler pressing Rags on what one could POSSIBLY CONCEIVE OF putting in a front pocket.) Rags lists some stuff like, phones, coins, pens, chapstick, pieces of paper(receipts?), knife, etc Fringy: We have already established that the phone is in the OTHER pocket. I did not hear where we established that, but some people have 2 phones- work and personal. This also doesn't solve knife, chapstick, and pens- all of which are far more noticeable, and potentially damageable, if/when sat on. Rags is on the spot here, so I think he forgot keys. Which is sometimes a big portion of space and certainly not comfy to sit on. 7:03:28 Fringy: Why would I put the thing that is uncomfortable to sit on in my back pocket? Rags: My wallet's not uncomfortable to sit on, I sit on it all the time. Fringy: I don't understand why... Rags: Maybe it's uncomfortable because it has coins in it. Mauler: No, YOU said that. Fringy didn't say that. Fringy definitely IMPLIED it would be uncomfortable, which is WHY he asserts wallet in front pocket is superior. (Rather than posterior.) Mauler you didn't address the point Rags made! You SIDESTEPPER. This very specific point would have been-> IF you don't put coins in your wallet, THEN it isn't uncomfortable to sit on. Mauler instead goes to-> IF you put coins in your wallet, THEN you can put your wallet in your front pocket. They're vaguely linked, but not directly related enough you know Mauler's position on a sitting on a wallet that does not have coins in it- and I'm sure it would still be preferable to him to put it in his front pocket. However! His stance on the comfort of a coinless back pocket wallet was not updated or explored, when that was specifically the point Rags was addressing. 7:05:15 Again, never met an American that can't tell their 4 main coins apart by feel. To a lot of Americans, it IS a superfluous additional step to -> 1remove wallet from pocket, 2unzip pouch, 3count out, 4hand over as opposed to-> 1estimate count in pocket, 2pull out to confirm, 3hand over 7:06:20 As stated above^ You also don't have to pull your whole wallet out for things like vending machines, parking meters, restroom toiletry dispensers, gumball machines, laundromats, those animal feed dispensers at piers and zoos, penny pressers, etc- I've always found pocket change is safer than potentially dropping your wallet in busy places and walkways where some of these machines often sit. 7:06:53 Mauler: You've been arguing how it's tough to pack them away and get them out- I thought he was just saying he doesn't ever use them. I might have missed that argument, but what I ACTUALLY heard was Rags saying that, IF he needs them, he JUST pulls them out: 7:06:32 .
Additionally, 7:06:55 Coins go in the change jar when you get home. Or the swear jar if you're not careful. Can you believe people just throw pennies on the ground? They're that worthless to a surprising amount of people. 7:07:30 The penny change jar is always the largest, and always gets the fullest. It is never dipped into for pocket change. No one wants pennies. People can barely even be bothered to carry the penny jar to a coin counter. NO ONE WANTS TO LUG A GORILLION TONS OF PENNIES ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK ONLY TO BE HANDED BACK LIKE 3 BUCKS AND A DIME. Pennies are a blight on American society and you just don't understand until you've lived the nightmare. Your weird British coinwalletpursemanpouch would just be swimming in pennies. You would learn to separate them. You would begin putting them in your front pocket. And that's how it begins. Soon, the nickels. Then, the dimes. Before you know it, you, too, are simply reaching for your change pocket when you see the vending machines. That's why it's called pocket change, Mauler. POCKET CHANGE goes into your POCKETTTTSSSSSS 7:07:45 I was kinda asking myself this question back at 7:00:00 and I think it merits exploration. 7:08:05 whoa i didnt know this i typed this entire essay out and they just ended up solving it aaaag Fringy saying he doesn't see how it changes things- but I think about it like this. Those little candies you see at the checkout? Last minute cheap treat for pocket change. You can buy a whole candy bar for 1 $2 coin- Americans have to count out about 5 coins MINIMUM for that at $1.25. Even if it's a less than $1 bar, it's 4 coins min. 7:09:30 I would wager it's because a wallet with coins in it just gets cramp packed way too full too quickly with how much American change gets tossed around, and it's just as easy to FEEL the coins out for that same second in your pocket, as it would take to pull out the whole wallet, unzip, and THEN only just BEGIN the counting afterwards. If you've lived like this, it's just how it works, I guess. 7:11:17 NO RAGS, DON'T CONFUSE THEM. Dollar coins are NOT common! They are SO uncommon that even the new, good vending machines that take paper bills and credit cards MISTAKE the 1dollar coins FOR the 25cent coins! DO NOT USE $1 COINS IN VENDING MACHIIIINES 7:12:36 If he is wrong to assert your way is worse without having tried it or knowing anything about your money, you cannot fairly assert that your way works BETTER in an American system of currency, like you WERE asserting without clarification. That it works for YOUR system of currency is implicit, but you did not extend this grace to any of Rags' assumptions or points. youtube comment box full, conclusion is; mauler and fringy dont understand the menace that is pennies i think it silly to say their way is better, if they dont know what american money is like. i wasn't sure rags ever asserted one way was better? he mostly stated he doesnt like sitting on coins and wasnt sure coin in wallet is fewer steps. i think it is fine to not put coins in a wallet, as much as it is fine to put coins in a wallet, if that is what works best for your life situation. if america very commonly used $1 and $2 coins, i think things would be different. and COOLER. because i really like coins. anyway, most of my thoughts probably arent helpful or good and already got addressed but i typed it out for fun so i'll post the comment anyway, since its supposed to be good for um, metrics and stuff, probably
Thank you long ones. They shut down the internet at work for 5 hours and you were the only ones i could think of to download a video super quick and listen to for the rest of the work night.
"This film expresses the erroneous worldview towards the meta-wrongness often attributed to disestablishmentarism as applied to figments of expressions of idealistic piques of rage contained in imperialist fobbings." -Movie Bob's Sweaty Crevice
7:31:30 The concern is that once cash is completely cycled out of monetary use, credit card companies will be able to restrict your purchases, thereby eliminating the use of your own money as you have described.
Mauler and Fringy getting defensive over their purses. Lols. Edit: Wow that went long lmao. I want to see Mauler and Fringy at the counter sifting through thier purses for the 57 cents exactly like the 80 year old bingo grandma. Lol. So they HAVE to be into fanny packs then, right? Omg, apologies....edit no.2. Fringy and his magic Coins. Best friends, never apart, life is taken care of. Trusty coins. (And finding coins out of the palm of your hand IS easier than digging them out of a purse, i.e. having them in your pocket).
I find it ibcredibly stupid of Fringy to not realize that Rags isn't Australian, or an English citizen, and resides in an entirely different country and culture where we don't have coin pockets often in our wallets and tend to carry them in our back-right pocket. That's just an American truism.
I used to work at a coin shop. People have the weirdest ideas about what they can get from a store for coins. Like, people would come with a single shitty wheat penny, and expect a fortune, but then people would come in with a whole bag of 50 cent coins to sell to us. They would then, 100% willingly, selling us those 50 cent coins for 40 cents each. Id be like "you know you can just take these to the bank right?" But no. They wanted to sell them.
The Klingon make up was addressed in DS9 because of a scene where Worf was in the same room as a group of TOS Klingons. It was a throw away line, which the Enterprise writers decided to do a story about as the show was already cancelled and they just wanted to make as many nods and tributes to the fans as they could. Rags has the right idea about ignoring that stuff, but he probably doesn't understand how much of a meme the Klingon make up was over the decades.
As brainless as he is, my money's on NoBS. He can't debate for crap, but he can constantly move the goalpost long enough to clutch a win. Also, as terrible as his values are, at least he knows what they are.
>Debates are gay! >I mean...uh...yeah I don’t disagree, debates are usually pretty stupid. >right?! And people just take clips of you “contradicting yourself” and act like that’s a checkmate or something! >oh dude I hate that uh...that bullsh__ is so god damn annoying! >...so Hasan, if you’re in favor of socializing cars and factories and bikes, why not cut out the middle man and socialize the very people themselves? Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, noting against the state, right? >uhh...I mean yeah sure I guess. (Konnigratzer March intensifies)
@Purple Emerald I don't think he's good at debates either. However, I think Hasan will out-bad him at debates. As proof I will cite Jay's recent video on him. When NoBS is shown debating, he is bumbling around and making no points, but he is constantly thinking on his feet, moving the goal post, and other things on the perimeter of debating. As Jay said in that video, NoBS isn't really debating, he's only interested in making himself look good. The issue is that we have seen Hasan try and fail to even clear that bar.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Animal with the strongest kick
- Best long distance runners
9:50 - Best animal to domesticate(custom pets)
- Wojtek, Soldier Bear
20:51 - Guest Intro/ Mauler's experience watching Hasan's stream
- >Metalcommander Arrives
30:07 - Recap from 143 & 147
39:10 - It begins/ Stolen Valour
- Compilation of Hasan just leaving, "True"/ His community
50:25 - >What is MXC?/ Difference in content then and now
56:15 - >Skeletor would be a better streamer
- Wireless headphones
1:05:09 - More Hasan content
- On eating while streaming
1:05:09 - How he handles disagreements with chat
- Another chatter falls and another one
1:28:02 - Destiny's reaction, ‘I have been doing this for a long time’
- and another, another , another, aaand another one
1:44:30 - Giving credit?
1:56:20 - “Noticeable spike in viewers”
- Hasan's thoughts on EFAP/ 'It's all about numbers'
2:19:00 - ‘I don’t know who they are', ‘doing it for clout’
- On Mundane Matt
2:32:43 - Everyone watching everyone's content
- (another one)/ Banned words in Hasan's chat
2:45:29 - Hasan's thoughts on fair use
- XqC's Olympics DMCA
3:02:40 - >SFO leaves
3:06:11 - Hasan chat:'Why not It's transformative just like youtube'
Hasan: ‘Dude ... ... ... no it's not.’
- He knows what fair use is?
3:20:58 - Suggest approved content? ‘No no, that’s insane'
- Maueler doing the impossible (according to Hasan)/ How copyright works
3:29:56 - Hasan's thoughts on Destiny's explanation
3:32:26 - Artist paid in exposure
- Artist's reaction
3:40:53 - Poll for the name of the Hasan video
- Names from chat
- - The Tomorrow War Section - -
3:55:52 - Thoughts on The Tomorrow War
- The many layers of dumb
4:17:11 - Clip: Mauler learns about Filmento's Tomorrow War video
Video intro & talks with Filmento/ The description
4:23:37 - Video Starts/ Changing it up and being positive
4:27:05 - >Chat tisms: Training civilians
4:33:53 - ‘I don’t review movies, because grades don't matter'
- >Chat tisms: ‘Didn’t finish his point'
4:45:47 - Captured Queen intelligence, ‘alien evolution’
- The positives
4:51:26 - Is this satire?
- “The established goals and plot beats rarely occur as intended but instead in a failed way that increases their difficulty and tension, and so on so on.”
4:53:17 - Trying to figure out what this is ⤴
- Toxin plot thread, finding the alien spaceship
5:03:45 - Falling from the sky/ It exists for itself
- The mission once they get into the future
5:19:11 - “The film continually alters the deal”
- “Grow the obstacles and in turn reduce the boredom”
5:32:47 - “Negatively altering the deal”, “Praying you don't alter it any further”
- “Crafts a very easily distinct and memorable identity for itself”
5:32:47 - Dan's father, “He isn't some random person, but instead in terms of this story actually very specific."
5:44:19 ->CW's Supergirl promo image, Power Rangers pose
5:48:53 - Dan's relationship with his (younger) daughter
5:52:20 - Intermission/ Jay's tweet on Hasan
- >Rags restarts discord
5:55:27 - Pain cont./ “One big futuristic Science Fiction allegory of the Vietnam war”
- Trying to figure out what ⤴
5:59:10 - >Meme: Filmento (Evolution of the meme)
6:01:07 - “Enemies are so unlike us they are basically an alien race”
what
what
6:07:15 - Mauler translates the Filmento code
- 'GoT is all about the throne'/ Character relationships about different things
6:14:36 - The movie's timelines, "share a clear relationship of cause and effect"
- “The present does not remain as is”..."the war has an effect"
6:23:43 - Translation, ‘Both timelines work on the same problem’
- Soundtrack
6:32:30 - Translation, ‘Using information in the future, they benefit in the past’
- More soundtrack/ “Family”
6:41:27 - Dan's relationship with his (older) daughter
6:47:44 - "The certainty in the stakes of tomorrow, ultimately sets the stakes in the today"
- “Born of his sins that he hasn't yet committed”
6:52:36 - “Watch this back to back with-” [NO]
6:54:07 - I can't take it anymore!
- “A few non-general specific”
6:56:50 - Sponsor segment
- >Coins in the wallet? An extra step compared to pockets?
7:20:30 - >Wallet in the back pocket?/ Coin use
- Washing machines
7:31:30 - >Use of Electronic cash v physical
- >Removal of coins
7:38:03 - >Sponsored wallet cost
- >How it works
7:50:17 - >How money looks/ History of US money
7:57:28 - >Metal Leaves
8:00:31 - >Weird stream problems [audio returns at 8:02:29]
- >Collecting old money
8:19:53 - >Alias eps. time travel
8:25:05- Last 30 seconds/ Rags finds his old stuff
/Video ends
8:29:24 - Superchats start:
- Hello's/ Kong EFAP?/ 10 Emu sized giraffes or Giraffe sized Emu/ Giraffe kick /Card/ Zebras/ UK English
- DMC Revieew/ Giraffe Fight/ Tonald v Hasan's mom/ Given up on a video?/ Endurance hunting
8:41:26 - Banned on Hasan's stream/ Patreon donation EFAP movies?/ Horse v Human/ Urban Fantasy/ A ghost story
- Last till the end/ Guard geese/ Komodo Dragon, gympie gympie, or piranhas/ Orca whales
8:51:00 - Loki, what determines a 2 or 3/ Extremist otaku/ Racoon or Red Panda/ Most brutal movie death scene
- Hasan orbiters/ Stinger-less bumblebee/ Dev./ No Nuggies/ Domesticate for looks
9:07:39 - Jabberslythe/ Star-Trek Critics & Changes/ Recasting/ Scariest animal uprising
9:24:29 - Gnomes/ CoD games/ Hasan Unfollow/ Chase, Mark, & M/ xenomorph pet/ Time cristal/ Grandma
- Make Hasan care/ Cannon fodder/ GTA: SA good British films/ SFO/ Anime
9:35:52 - Suicide Squad music/ Kartman or Hasan/ Rags swims/ Simp Loki/ Hotest sweedish guy/ Daredevil
- Rate memers/ Life back/Aqua Teen Hunger Force/ Veteran Hat/ Navy GF/ Banned/ Bernie
9:49:38 - End of Stream Announcements:
- Snyder Cut EFAP Movies soon
- Mauler Video WIP
- Metal Stream on Friday
- EFAP #149 Saturday
- #150 Approaches
Snip:
6:23:43 - Rags is done, Mauler is done, Fringy is done, Metal is
It's all GDLB
6:49:49 - “Just go just go go, it don't make sense just go”
- "The corn sauce of this emotion"
Dude, you’re the commenter we don’t deserve, but the one we needed.
Get this man's comment to the top 👆
Also still love you for your diligence
Obligatory response to make this comment go higher. You're doing the Don's work.
Thank you so much, this episode was a surprising classic, just like the last one, and I knew I could count on you to help me jump right to the Tomorrow War Tism I need on rewatch
*"I'm here to steal content and eat chicken nuggies. And I'm all out of nuggies."*
_- Hasan, probably_
In collaboration with Bighas Baggins
Nice one
"it's time to chew ass and kick gum, and I'm all out of ass" - Dick Kickem.
"Better leave for ten minutes and make some more since mom isn't home right now."
"But no worries...Mommy will make me nuggies while I steal some content anyways."
-definitely Hasan
Hassan gave his life in the Korean War, bravely defending his position by leaving his chair there whilst his mother fetched Chicken Nuggies.
But we don't talk about this nowadays, it's a sensitive topic for Hassan.
A day without nuggies was incredibly torturous to him.
He "fought" for the North Koreans, in the great nuggie conflict of Lay Ze Fuch
In Sylvester Stalone's voice:
"It wuz a hero... And... *Sniffles!* This chair wuz muh friend."
😢
Banger comment, Mr. Laughing Cavalier.
Love your channel, btw.
He needs enough nuggie rations to stay strong.
I don't think anyone covered on EFAP has pissed me off as much as Hasan. He's such a petty, power-mad, priviliged man-child that I wonder if he's even capable of happiness. He seems to see every perceived dissent as a personal attack. Why anyone would voluntarily watch, let alone give money to, this absolute cabbage is a complete mystery to me.
Moviebob and Quinton: allow us to introduce ourselves
Twitch tribalism is real, their audiences are zombified cult followers who see their favorite streamers as literal idols.
EFAP 93. Hasan I know of and expect less than nothing from, so I don't get as pissed at him.
@@led-0185 not tribalism, identity politics and farthest left cult bs. Tribalism and intellectualism aren’t mutually exclusive just unlikely bedfellows. This guys a prime example of the worst human traits period.
@Bexerath This pissed me off even more than Jack Saint and Quinton. Hasan is an absolute dirtbag
This Stream made it abundantly clear where we stand.
EFAP chat is disgusted...
EFAP Crew is disgusted...
Hassan don't have morals...
The chair is carrying the whole show.
You mean cardboard bernie
@@tyvamakes5226 either/or/both
Chair-sama was the real fighter for the working class.
Literally
I read your comment in the Epic Trailer Guy voice.🤪🤪
Hassan's talking about revolution and changing the world order meanwhile he gets the most insignificant nanogram of power to ban people from his chat and he becomes an apex tyrant. I'm expecting them to get out the digital guillotine and start speaking french pretty soon lol.
Typically socialist, lazy and expect everything
You dont need to make a French revolution metaphor, his org is litteraly called The Young Turks. The historical young turks comparisons are pre packaged for our pleasure in this case.
We should be makeing fewer jokes about Hassan and Guiloteens and more about him sending his followers to invade Russia in the winter with shoes made of cardboard.
You can take a man out of the third world, buuuut...
@@wishuponamonkeyspaw2458 A few years ago there was a halhearted attempt to start refering to far lefties as 3rd Worlders because of their almost universal adoration of 3rd world shitholes across the globe.
It kind of petered out when the stormfront guys started using it but I for one was always a little sad that this new branding effort failed. Maybe someday we can bring it back.
Hasan is not a socialist/revolutionary anything. He pretends to be, while at the same time embracing all the worst aspects of capitalism.
"A lot of stuff we do on Twitch is not fucking fair use dude, it's not."
There he goes, saying the quiet parts out loud again.
Imagine incriminating yourself in a potential felony to prove a point about your content… like, just wow
I’m disappointed that Rags didn’t edit his icon throughout the stream to gradually get larger and larger, without mentioning it.
Rags is no stranger to larger and larger things
@@charmandyorton006😏
I’ve always put up with EFAP’s antics before, but I think 10 hours straight of criticizing Hasan is too much for me. Not only did the man serve in the Korean War, but he was also drafted into the future to fight in the Korean War 2. The man is a hero.
yeah pretty messed up that they'd shit all over korea's national hero... the northern one.
Yeah, one of few daring americans serving under PLA
Some may view it as odd but I find it admirable to bring one's own senile mother into battle
I can't believe they would disrespect a veteran of the Finno-Korean hyperwar
Yeah, if that's how he identifies, incredibly transphobic to shit on him for that.
3:33:00 I swear to God I had a brain aneurysm watching Hassan's response to artist. I'm a very small artist myself and I can understand having to go alot of time on a piece of art just for it to go unnoticed at all and Hassan thinking "exposure" is enough fucking infuriated me. Most Artists hates being paid in "exposure" for our time
I know a lot of people like to think of themselves as good people, but the gap between how good of a person Hasan thinks he is and how good he ACTUALLY is has to be some kind of world record.
To defend Hasan....slightly. I can see how it would be unreasonable to be expected to support any artist who does something for you when you had zero input in requesting that art. However, when you buy merchandise that someone had made with stolen art at the very least you should tip the artist what you paid for the shirt, and that's bare minimum.
@@iainmcdonalds4018 i feel like the least he could have done, the bare minimum if he was gonna pay the artist in "exposure" would have been to at least have several links to the artist and actually tell people to follow them other leaving them a simple like and retweet. But Hassan doesn't know any better to do even that.
Mate i bloody feel you on that
Yeah that pissed me off as an artist as well.
It's gonna be really difficult for any EFAP villain after this to top Hasan knowing what fair use is then basically admitting to going against it, and Filmento comparing world destroying aliens from the future to Vietnamese people.
Oh hey zodiac
I vaguely remember a Twitter post of yours.
Or Tin’s.
I don’t know it’s been a year...
I don't think filmento understands how screwed up it was on his part when he made that comment.
Don't forget the diabolical mind of Diabeto, he may not have put his plans into action yet, but he's a dangerous one.
@@tuskinradar8688 Der Film Røbërt, großer kritischer Führer
We could use an EFAP tier list of villainy.
2:54:00 if anyone was curious as to the reasoning why Mauler is so invested and miffed by the Hasan ordeal with Jay, then this will probably rationalize most of it. Essentially, as Fringy rightfully pointed out, if this becomes a larger issue then the negative end result would be more stringent copyright enforcement. Which has the potential of incidentally harming EFAP despite what they do to be the antithesis of Hasan's content.
Might as well address the issues now, before it becomes worse and everyone loses in the end
" *One Piker to find all the Nuggies... And in his lazyness, eat them.* "
Galadriel Skywalker
Everyone can be a Skywalker nowadays
“Galadriel Skywalker” actually has a nice ring to it.
...get it? Ring? Galadriel’s ring?
@@АняШакал
Ehhhhh!
I love how the 20 minute pre-show tangent about animals has more thought, interesting facts, and effort put into it than anything Hasan has ever done.
Including his time at TYT
Or the wallet discussion
Well that’s just wrong to be fair
@@Silverado-pq6xe how?
I love when EFAP talks about animals. Really enjoyed the bear vs Tiger debate a while back.
Hasan the type of dude to watch Planet of the Apes and ask what the Statue of Liberty is doing there.
Fuck this is so accurate it hurts
The Hasan arc is pretty fucking good, not gonna lie.
Hasan is the villain that feels like a filler baddie, but winds up being the arcs main antagonist
It's the "StaAwWwP iT... He'S aLrEaDy DeAaAd!!!" meme self-perpetuating itself. Loving it!
I read the manga and the best part hasn't arrive yet.
@@devyboo2 I always love those villains
@@yashaoftheflames8475 true true
If only chris prat had nuggies, then he could've defeated the aliens so easily.
But if he had nuggies, he would’ve been melted.
His mommy must not love him
This is why I come to EFAP. Five seconds in and we are asking the hardest hitting questions of our time... " What is the lethality of a giraffe?" Lol
I love how painfully human they are. Endlessly curious about anything and everything. And then they look it up. Simply glorious
To answer that: they’re quite lethal. They’re massive and they hit hard. They can decapitate lions with their hooves.
“A fistful of nuggies for a days worth of content.” - Hasan, probably
Hasan could just put a cardboard cutout of himself in front of the camera and play a "true" voice line every 40min and nobody would even notice, they would all think he's there, reacting.
Way too unbelievable. No way he could stay in his chair for 40 minutes at a time
Doing that would actually require more work of him than what he's doing now.
He would need a bot that randomly bans someone every 30min as well.
I don’t think Fringy comprehends how infrequently people use coins in the US.
no joke I havent had a coin on my person in about 2 months now.
In the UK I had a shitload of coins on the daily, and it was a massive pain in the ass.
Dude I throw them "In a Junk Drawer"
I've practically eliminated all cash transactions so I wouldn't have to deal with coins anymore because they're such a nuisance.
I don't think american people comprehend how infrequently people use plastic cards in the rest of the world.
@@Soapy-chan_old Actually, my friend from Singapore who visited the US mocked us for having Credit Card technology years behind the times. When I finally visited Singapore, they had the tap credit cards years before my local Chase bank would even issue a card with a chip in it. Eventually we'd catch up with the tap cards, but I found it interesting that US banks would be so slow to update the technology.
3:16:36
Hasan (Verbal): Using what the broadcaster is saying as like... basically uh.... uh seasoning.. for... my...
Hasan (Internal thoughts during lag): *Don't say chicken nuggets, don't say chicken nuggies, DON'T SAY MY MOMS CHICKEN TENDIES*
Hasan (Verbal cont.): Uh seasoning for my commentary.
Hasan (Internal thoughts): *Phew! Saved it! Hopefully nobody noticed that, I'd have to ban them*
"Internal thoughts during lag" LOL
This supposes that Hasan Piker actually has an internal monologue, though XD
@@MrVeps1 it's probably more of an internal dialogue than a monologue.
We established last Time That he doesn't know who the Voice in his head belongs to and why it Sounds just like him.
Listening to the coin purse discussion reminded me of that scene from the Wallace and Grommit movie, where Grommit is grappling with the villains bulldog in a coin operated rocket. As they are fighting the rocket gives off a chime letting them know that it needs more coins. So they both stop fighting and Grommit pulls some change from his pocket of his ??fursuit?? and fumbles around with the coins looking for the right amount. The Bulldog stops him and pulls out a flowery coin purse from which he pulls out a coin for the rocket. Then they continue fighting.
Loved that movie.
The virgin coins in your pocket vs the virgin coins in your wallet vs the chad carry a piggy bank in your hands wherever you go.
Vs the sigma male “carry an actual pig wherever you go”, and use it as the money
The Chronicles of Hasan: The Chair, the Thief, and the Nuggies
Yeah it started just your run of the mill bad but by the time "The Mom and her Boy" came out it got really wierd
@@omegamysterio3701 I just realized you don't even need to change the title "The Silver Chair" for it to still fit XD
Speaking of Destiny as opposed to Hasan, Destiny has a custom made, animated “brb” type screen. So that’s at least better than a chair.
A lot of streamers do. Vinny/Vinesauce would have different ones made by the community cycled through to keep it fresh.
@@Party_Almsivi funny that you mentioned Vinesauce. because despite being a streamer that focused on playing games, He makes a lot more effort on his streams than both Destiny and Hasan
@@shumono3254 well.../made/ a lot more effort...since those clout-chasing hoe-bags tried to make up some nonsense me-too stuff about him, and he took his break from streaming. I’m proud of him though, because he didn’t try to appease them to get it to go away, my boy Vinny lawyered up instantly. And those skanks ain’t been too noisy since, so it must have worked out.
And he’s doing pre-recorded uploads instead of streams now, so he’s still kicking.
@@shumono3254 I've been watching Vinny since 2012 and you're 100% right. The man only got better over time as well, more effort, more community interaction, more interesting Sunday's and charity streams. Vinesauce is the shit.
@@The1337guy1 my dream is for Vinny to come on for an episode one day, and end it with a few rounds of gartic phone.
I love how the humans are apparently losing with time travel in this film, when in Edge of Tomorrow time travel gave the aliens near 100% flawless victory on every front every time.
Edge of tomorrow was an adapatation though? Iırc
@@mertarican5456 ok ??
(nice to know)
It's hard to overstate how overpowered time travel is
Not just that, in Edge of Tomorrow only a few dozen aliens can time travel and only by a few days at most, and THAT is enough to score them a victory rate of nearly 100%
@@mertarican5456I’m really late on this but yes. It’s based off the manga All You Need is Kill. The manga is probably better than the movie but tbh I like the movie more.
I need to retake my history class to learn about the events of the Cold War. I forgot about the Korean War veteran who stole content whilst eating nuggies of the chicken variety and how America's efforts to take over Vietnam's government was stopped by the Vietcong army consisting of soldiers that were alien specimen.
EFAP and transformative content: where they can argue about wallets for 40 minutes based on a single frame of a Filmento Wallet ad. Hassan, get your ship together.
Hasan: (after banning EFAP from his chat) Stay where you belong, in my memories.
EFAP: I will never be a memory. (Takes menacing angelic true-form)
Sweats in heartless angel flashbacks
EFAP: I have many names, you cannot ban them all.
Don’t underestimate the kick of an emu. They did win a war.
And let's not bring up their cousins the Cassowary. The stuff of horror....
Mauler: No, no, nooooh! How to build a cinematic masterpiece? No, that was... like one of the worst movies!
.. and Filmento's video was sprinkled with Bioshock Infinite task sounds.
I just sat and listened to three people debate the value of having coins in your wallets for 2 hours
EFAP is a wonderful thing
How is this the only comment I find about the wallet thing lmao, I feel like this is so much more controversial than anything else in the video. XD
@@Super_Ammo I know, right! Obviously you put the coins in the wallet, that's what it's for. The wallet is just the evolved form of a coin purse
@@voicingdragoon7 the missing component in this conversation is this: Inflation has rendered American coins almost useless. Our most common coins are a quarter of a dollar or less. Yet there is very little you can buy in person these days for less than a dollar. Candy, soda, trinkets, etc all tend to cost well over a dollar, if not 2 or 3 (or more). Vendors tend to round up to even dollar amounts even at fairs and whatnot.
For me personally, I will put coins in my wallet - but after a few transactions, it's better off just keeping a jar of coins and depositing it later at the bank for bigger (more useful) bills. Because otherwise I'd be carrying a handful of coins that I could barely buy one item with.
Hopefully that makes sense?
So someone's work got stolen. It was made for Hassan specifically. By member of his community, someone who is passionate about being a part of Hassan's community clearly, to the point where they make fanart of and for Hassan.
He bought the T-shirt from what is essentially criminals, and when the artist tells him what happened, he won't even move a finger to help despite all of his wealth.
Pay attention lefties. This is your champion of the people. This guy is totally a socialist. Sits on millions, won't even give a penny. He won't even help/protect his own, yet people take political advice from this guy... about socialism. Imagine that.
Commie gonna coom man, commie gonna coom.
My views are closer to socialism. But this man is an Apex-Capitalist through and through, and the fact he doesn't see it is what makes it funnier
Typical socialist, will seal from the people while "advocating" "for" "the people".
@@arenkai No, this man is a socialist. He is the poster child for your movement. You don't get to play No True Scotsman about one of the most well-known public faces of your political philosophy.
If I was making Hassan money I would have on the spot offered a licensing deal. Make us both some money AND get good will from community.
Unlimited use of the image in my merch store for 10% of the revenue, not profit, revenue. Or 10k flat for licensing. I would take care of the people that pay for my high wattage nuggie lifestyle.
Hassan's reaction: Fuck you I gave you attention!
I haven't seen Tomorrow War, but the first thing I thought was, wait, you got time on your side. A lot of it. You go back in time and set people on a training program to fight these particular aliens, then you go forward to when they would be done with that training, and THEN bring them to war. You could do that in every time period. You could have everyone who ever existed ready to fight those aliens.
I mean possibly. I've never seen it, so I don't know how their time travel works, but I would have really liked to see that it was realistic time travel. As in, you create a wormhole at X point in time, and at any point in the future, you can go back through it, but you can't choose where you go in the wormhole's history. You can only go back to the beginning of the wormhole. You can't time travel back to before the wormhole was made, and you might not even be able to travel back to the future through it. A one way wormhole that sends them back to the moment that said wormhole was created. You could have had a really cool movie where humanity created this wormhole, and then 12 months later, Earth was attacked by aliens and everything is fucked. Now, you can go back to 12 months before the alien invasion and try to prepare, but you can't fuck around and go to every time period ever.
@@clairetellkamp6253the way it works is: at the moment their wormhole is made they linked past and future like 2 ships, from that moment on, one day in future is one day in past. And the only people that get sent back/forward are those who weren't born then/have already died respectively. And the return trip from the future is determined by basically some recall tech surgically installed on their forearm that drags them back to their home time when signaled by some central tower signal.
They show they have weaponized drones in the future so they should've just mass produced those in the past and sent those to fight instead of sending untrained civilians
This would have been a good one to have Internet Historian on since he let's people play his videos in full. I agree with EFAP on the requirement of being transformative, I'd be curious to see if Historian agrees.
Eh, I doubt his perspective would be much different. I've yet to see him leave a positive comment under a video where reactor fucking leaves the room and lets a chair do his job.
Good point, now I'm curious as well.
I'm sure IH knows that they would watch his videos on anyway. Plus his videos have such a unique asthetic and voice. Like if you watched a Joel Haber animation, you would know it even without the video saying it is by him.
IH has probably given more views to reactors then they could possibly give to his videos.
9:59 the hardest part for an adult giraffe is that their chances of being struck by lighting is quit high
Hasans views on 9/11 is peak commentary
Also, Rags is right about wallets.
It's incredible how Filmento writes such drawn out word salads, and still manages to say very little.
It's like me trying to write in Japanese. I feel sorry for the guy because he's trying really hard to be good at English when if he just kept it simple the writing would be a lot better.
Reminds me a bit of Noah Caldwell-Gervais in that way
@@countD8852
At least Noah does his thing in a Gonzo journalism style way, talking in 1st person.
It's shockingly easy. I've fallen into wordsalad numerous times, and always cringe hard when I read it back to myself. And I'm talking in comment sections and reddit threads. Takes alot of time to refine a gut response or emotion into a real coherent paragraph (or more). It's very common on first drafts. Probably explains how they get videos out so fast...
While on one hand I _do_ feel a little bad for that artist that Hasan “paid in exposure”, at the same time, clearly this person is a big fan of his. Which means that there’s no way they haven’t witnessed him being a terrible person to everyone, including his own loyal fans, and yet somehow still liked him enough to make that art of him. Obviously what Hasan did was terrible, but I dunno, you must not have had _that_ much of an issue with him being so awful if you were still a fan of his. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes and all that jazz.
Agree completely
Now that I commented can I get my payment as discussed?
I mean, yes he's a fan so boo/he's seen enough to see this coming, but still...
Social links are hard to cut and he's basically being robbed and spat on, so let's not piss on the ashes eh?
There is the chance that one of Hasan's viewers knew who the artist was and told him that his shirt was on stream tbf.
Feel kinda like it’s victim blaming in a sense, just cause your a fan doesn’t mean you are aware of 100% everything he has done.
Oof, ya'll completed eviscerated Hasan, not like it's really that difficult... but still bravo. Also, why is Destiny laughing and applauding this behavior? Get gulag'd, wrongthinker!
MauLer happens to watch the one stream that related very heavily to current topics involving EFAP?
This movie is very contrived.
If he didn't he would have been melted tho!
Don't forget that it started by Jay Exci accidentally noticing a small increase of viewers and then going onto Twitter asking which streamer was is this time.
I'm telling you, God's writing for the world is pretty contrived.
Hasan's the kind of person to unironically ask for brake light fluid.
And then double down on it when you say it's not a thing... then ban you.
Hasan would never ask anyone for brake light fluid. He would walk in planning to take it without paying, and proudly exclaim he’s looking for it when asked.
That implies he knows what a car is and brakes might be a little too complex for him.
Y'all are right, much like Rags's I gave Hasan too much credit; we all know it's his mom that drives.
I laughed way too hard at this thread. Take my likes!
As an ethnic Korean myself with older relatives who fought and suffered in the Korean War, all I could react with to Hasan's comment about stealing valor from Korean war veterans... was complete and utter disgust. What an abhorrent, disrespectful piece of garbage.
I'm just hoping that there IS some context that Hasan just hasn't mentioned or we haven't seen yet so that we can, at the very LEAST, understand why he's saying that... but given Hasan's track record, I highly doubt it.
Hasan sees the world red and blue. My respect for your countries sacrifice greetings from turkey 🌷
I'm not entirely sure it counts as stolen valor. He's not actually claiming to have fought in the Korean War, he's also obviously too young anyway. I think it would be more accurate to say he's just mocking military veterans by ironically wearing a Korean Vet hat, which isn't a terribly great thing to do.
It's because he thinks it's funny.
Unlike other edgy jokes that involve someone doing something terrible, Hassan thinks all he has to do is just say he's doing something with a straight face for it to be funny.
Either that or he has absolutely no respect for anyone in the military, which is equally as likely,
Royaux Not sure even that is a fair criticism since he’s actually mocking trans racialists, “stealing calories” from Korean War veterans is merely the way he does that, but it doesn’t really imply anything bad about them. If anything trans people should be the ones offended since he’s unwittingly using the most classic base level anti trans argument XD
The Tomorrow War seems like it's just "The Great Wall" with time travel.
If you look closely, you can see the flies buzz out of Hasan’s ears from the empty space between them
Fun fact about Giraffes, All vertebrate animals have 7 vertebrae in the cervical spine, including giraffes.
It seems to me like Filmento is being passive aggressive. The audience asked for more positivity and he's like: "Oh yeah? If that's what you want, idiots, I'm just gonna point at a piece of shit and call it a masterpiece."
Also, Rags, I've heard that sitting on your wallet can ruin your spine.
Totally. There's a definite 'be careful what you wish for' vibe in that video.
He literally had a series called “Film Perfection” in the running and yet was still viewed as being “overly negative”
2:58:53 "Hopefully you'll become less incely by our content."
Rags confirmed: watching EFAP is just as good as getting laid.
So I usually listen to these while I'm drawing or otherwise looking at something else, and every time you cut to Hasan about to say something there's a complete silence that lasts long enough for me to wonder if the video froze.
That would be like the robots from Terminator going back in time to pick up other robots to fight their war instead of going back to kill the enemy leader.
Barney Boyle, a warrior spanning throughout time and space. Hurtling towards his destiny while riding the force of the giraffe kick!
I love how chat starts spamming F when Mauler brings up Snaffuu. RIP, Snaffuu. You never deserved such harsh treatment
Get your popcorn and alcohol ladies and gentlemen, the Hassan EFAP Arc is quite the rollercoaster.
"And you thought the Knights of Jen were simps...."
--Tagline for this season of EFAP
You will need a lot of alcohol to drown the stupidity of Hassan.
Hi Rogue! What is your choice of booze to drown out stupidity?
@@IronTulikettu Hello Kitsune, personally a few bottles of Corona is good enough to get me through this level of cancer.
@@RogueFox2185 for me, I'm going with some coconut rum or white wine
@@scottski02 Nice, you can never go wrong with some White Wine.
They're talking about giraffes and zebras killing things with kicks, but I think their kicks would be preferable than being on the receiving end of what an elephant or hippo can do. Either the force of a semi pressing into you, turning you into a stain on the ground, or being crushed like a grape in something's mouth.
There's also kangaroos and ostriches. They have a serious kick. Maybe not as strong as a giraffe or zebra, but they have claws that can tear you apart.
you got me thinking about elephants and how many kill humans a years. I was surprised they broke even a hundred honestly. Then really depressed people are still trying to poach them.
PewDiePie has the 9-year-old Army, and 12-year-old Army and so on.
Petition for EFAP Panel to refer to EFAP Chat as "Nuggies/Our Nuggies".
Can already hear Rags and Weekend Warrior saying, "What's up, my nuggies?" And all the "Unlisted Nuggies" rising to uphold The Long until the reupload.
Idk. People might quote-tweet it as being an Ewok joke dog whistle.
It really doesn’t feel like EFAP 150 is literally just around the corner. I guess because I was here for the 100 hype, the comparatively small hype for this milestone feels like nothing. Still, can’t wait to see another year marker for EFAP, early congrats to you massives.
Edit: apparently chat had another small tism and I wasn’t there again. This is really forming a pattern huh…
EFAP 100 hype was surreal, i doubt i will ever experience such community driven hype again
We got Tonald and Wolf came back *during* this...
Top that slice of fried gold Mr.Universe, I dang-diddly dare ya!
😀
@@amanibob1416 yo Bob, you okay by the way? You’ve been speaking in a strange tongue in the comments here
@@aaronmueller1560
It's me translating what I would say in my tongue, but english reading folks had hardly any problems in a decade of my previous comments being put all over TH-cam, so naaaah...
Honest truth: If it's me, sorry, but if it's you, I'll be as fine as I've been for longer than ten years, so I'll leave your comments and mine alone, right there, for everyone else to add if need be.
You do enjoy your day. 🙂
Ps: "Top that" is well known. Slice of fried gold is from Shawn of the dead and everyone else has responded nicely to everything else I've put out so far, so happy to say: after doing some looking around, I'm bringing my points across just fine, exept for your sake/in your case.
Did you feel insulted, or confused..? Honest with ya', from twenty comments with actual replies in the last two days... Everyone is doing fine with my current "wording".
So I'll ask:
What seems to be your bother?
Ps.2: If it's a joke/sarcasm, then I apologize, but I'm currently working from home and double tongues is hard to handle with my "brain configuratism", let's say... 😓
I wonder if we'll be able to reach EFAP 1000.
That wallet debate went on so long Barney could have joined in
Legend says it's still going to this day
Hassan on the Stolen Art Shirt: Well the guy i bought the shirt from just seized the means of production he's a true Comrade. The Party will give some exposure to make it all good
“Guess I’ll die then.” - Hassan Tzu, ‘The Art of the Steal’
How is he not banned and twitch getting DMCA'd out the ass?
Just to answer your question, most of the content is being stolen from people smaller than them. This means that striking people like Hassan could lead to not only the end of your carrier, but an insane wave of hatred, threats, and doxing.
The only reason the bigger news sites and regular media haven’t is because Hassan is ultimately a nobody when you look at the context of the industry. That is to say, he has so little impact that they just haven’t noticed the problem (consider how long it took the music industry to bust down twitch’s door).
On the coin subject, my old roommate always called them "anti-money" just because the space and weight of carrying them isn't worth the value they bring.
fling that disc garbage straight into the nearest fountain
Yeah... I don't think an force of untrained militia would have the morale to fight after being hurtled thousands of feet to the ground and losing the majority of their personnel. I'm certain IRL any military organization would consider that wave of cannon fodder expended after that, and send another hoping nothing fucks up this time.
Hassan start being heavily discussed at 27:00
Helping out
Doing the lord's work.
@@1GreatEntity
🙂
Looking forwards to the day someone takes up Headmetwall's mantle.
@@vadandrumist1670
He's Two episode behind... I think he's still going strong.
Ps, I've checked, hence why I only gave the one timeskip/ timestamp pointer.
I can't remember what the movie's called, but it's about these parents taking revenge on people who kidnapped their daughter. One of the kills in it has the father propping open the door of a microwave so it works while open, and sticking one of the heads in it. Looked kind of like the death in scanners when the guy's head explodes
It's called "Last House on the Left" and it's the remake that has that scene
It's simple, coins go into the cup holder as soon as you get back into your car. Then, eventually, they go into the coin jar when it piles up.
6:09:34
Mauler was worried that Filmento was about to make a terrible argument about Game of Thrones and was dreading it...
AND THEN HE MADE AN EVEN WORSE ARGUEMENT.
1:13:08 The Amazing Lucas is like this, too. They have this attitude where they feel that as a fan, you're supposed to agree with them no matter what.
The Hasan arc is a better arc than DCEU Superman.
"Meal size is subjective."
-Movie Bob
Hasan might be genuinely small-minded enough, that he assumes that everyone's reaction is as terrible as his own. So yeah, from his perspective, react content could be threatened by that.
On Hassan wearing the vet hat: all he had to say was “I identify as a Korean vet, how DARE you be such a transphobe. Ban those nazis”
A graffle’s kick is strong enough to crush a lion’s skull.
The majestic graffle!
All hail the mighty graffle!
Really wish I could’ve been here live to recommend “Nuggie’s Eleven” as the title to commemorate the not-so-grand heists Hassan pulls on a daily basis
I can't speak for other fandoms but a chat group willing to power through a 10 hour stream aint nothing to take lightly. They either some flavor crazy or determined as hell, either way you don't mess wit that.
Rags is definitely right on wallets when it comes to how often they are used in America. I have never had a reason to keep coins in a wallet and find that putting coins in a wallet creates an uncomfortable bulge in the wallet that makes it much more uncomfortable to put in my pocket than just putting the coins in the pocket. The reason why it creates an uncomfortable bulge in the wallet in America is because you would need so many coins to get anything using just coins that you would need to carry a ton of coins. In America there just isn't enough of a reason to need coins to justify keeping them on you at all when you can just carry a few dollars on you instead, they take up less space, you can carry a lot more currency in dollar form in general, rather than needing to find space to carry the amount of coinage that you would need if you weren't using bills. The only time you ever actually have coins on you is when you've bought something and are given coins to cover the difference of what you've paid. There is literally never a time which requires you to have coins on you at all in America.
I suppose it's different down there where your dollar is a bill. As a Canuck, I tend to keep a lot of 1s and 2s in my wallet, and while it does create a bulge, it makes for a quick way to pay for coffee, snacks, or soda.
Either way, them pissing on minimalist wallets is so fucking snooty. I hate it when Rags mounts his high horse to call everything he doesn't understand fucking stupid. These wallets are expensive but he's neglecting to mention that they last forever. I have a Ridge wallet, burnt titanium and it's gorgeous, comfortable, discreet, and I won't need to buy a wallet every few years. Even has a coin tray. Also, those straps are very tight.
Most importantly, I was one of those people who put so much useless crap in my wallet and I was basically forced to stop that.
@@yoursodumn I have a 10 dollar wallet, its lasted me over a decade now.... But say it crapped out, in my entire lifetime I'd spend less than half the amount buying new wallets as you would on a single wallet if it was the last wallet you ever bought.
@@redbearington3345 did you miss the other parts? I don't mind if you enjoy having a 10 dollar wallet. Sometimes people like spending money on nice things.
@@yoursodumn The other parts eh? All you said was "it will last me a long time." That was you're one and only defense of the cost. Nothing else you said defends the cost.
When you only say 1 thing, then yeah there are no other parts and I'm not going to respond to "I like how it looks." or "I cant carry as much stuff in it." which would actually be a criticism of it.
Sometimes people like wasting money on stupid shit I agree.
I dont enjoy having a 10 dollar wallet any more than I would enjoy a 500 dollar wallet. It's the most irrelevant thing I can imagine. Its a thing you stick money in than stick in your pocket. As long as it fulfills that function it's good. If you want to spend a crapload of money on something like that then you're an idiot.
It's like spending 500 dollars for a pen. A 50 cent pen writes, a 500 dollar pen writes, so only a moron would buy a 500 dollar pen.
I'm American and I agree with Rags about coins. Why carry around a wallet full of coins if you rarely, if ever, need them? You get change, drop it in one of your front pockets, get home, drop it into a jar or whatever, and then if you know you're gonna need coins for laundry or whatever you can take the specific coins you need - quarters, specifically. There are no reason to have a bunch of nickles, dimes, and pennies accumulating in your wallet, carried with you every single day, when you barely ever need those smaller coins.
Then eventually you pull a Carl Fredricksen and smash the jar altogether for your car insurance
I don't know how it is in America, but a lot of shops in the UK still have a minimum spend on cards. So, if you're out and about and suddenly wanna buy a can of soda or whatever you'll probably need change. Bare in mind probably the most important part of this, most countries don't have the equivalent of a 1 dollar bill, and I can tell you from my job a LOT of people in the UK are still using coins. Plus we all kinda start off doing the change in the pocket/put it in a jar thing when we're kids, and then (not meant to sound condescending) we grow up and get a big boy wallet, get rid of change by spending it on the go with smaller purchases rather than keeping it around the house collecting dust or in your pocket out of sight out of mind so you don't even know how much change you have and end up just breaking notes when you don't have to, thus accumulating more change. I can tell you anybody who goes from keeping coins in their pocket to in their wallet rarely if ever goes back.
Anyway, I look forward to pocket vs wallet being the new Christmas Vs Halloween on EFAP, certainly a more interesting discussion than anything related to the Filmento video that preceded it.
I'm Canadian, and coins are more common here. Like, we've got $1 and $2 coins, as well as quarters, dimes, and nickels. The whole conversation on stream mildly frustrated me because there's no "right answer" there, it's different for different places and people
The comments are not making a big enough deal about Filmento unironically calling the Vietnamese aliens creatures.
"A Cenk in the Armor" is a really good title for a Cenk sperg fit compilation.
7:00:00 [ The Coin Contention ]
Fringy- mentions they have $1 and $2 coins like its a very common thing
Rags does not mention that the largest, most highly prevalent denomination for coins in America, is 25 cents.
We do have half dollars and the Sacagawea dollar, but those are pretty rare, and kind of considered a novelty in my experience.
Due to the size similarity, very rarely you may find Sacagawea dollars have been used as quarters accidentally in vending machines.
So most people in America, as far as I know, do not commonly use coins that have a greater value than 25cents in day to day life.
I think this might contribute to people not putting them in their wallets, since you would hardly ever pay for something primarily with coins.
Rather, people consider it more convenient to overpay with bills and get change back. I wasn't sure if this joke was just American or not, but;
"Don't you hate it when someone tries to count out exact change? Grandma counting her pennies out here, holding up the damn line."
This joke is a sentiment shared widely in America. I don't know if it's the same elsewhere, but how our coins are might be partially to blame?
Out of order timestamp, but it relates to 7:04:30 ;
It is grandma who usually DOES use a coinpurse, so rifling around in her pockets isn't even the problem here.
You just don't commonly see people counting out 23 quarters, a nickel, a dime, and 7 pennies to pay for things.
Additionally, of the common coins used- pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters- all of these are of easily differentiated sizes and widths.
I would like to stress that these 4 sizes are common to the point of near exclusivity. Which is why carrying them loose in a pocket isn't an issue.
I guess I couldn't make a broad statement about all people, but I've never met any other American who can't tell these 4 coins apart by feel alone.
The only issue might be something like the aforementioned Sacagawea dollar, but I literally have not seen one of those in a decade. This is not hyperbole.
As I have seen it, people usually just hand over an extra bill, and the cashier- who has all the coins neatly organized and laid out before them, does not have to unzip an additional pouch or pocket and rifle around in it, and are much quicker at counting coins out than you probably are- simply hands you back your change. It's a matter of expedience, convenience, and courtesy to the people behind you in line.
If you are one of those people who insists on using exact change, but you count it out while you're waiting in line BEFORE getting to the counter... honestly God bless. I'm serious. Thank you.
7:02:40
Rags: Is it weird to put your wallet in your back pocket?
Mauler: It is if you're gonna complain about sitting on your wallet.
Rags does not complain about sitting on his wallet.
Rags only complains about sitting on a wallet which has coins in it.
Rags does not keep coins in his wallet, which means he is not complaining about sitting on his wallet.
I have now deduced that Rags is definitely complaining about sitting on someone else's wallet. How terrible.
7:02:50
Rags: I might want to put other stuff in my front pockets, potentially.
Mauler: *with great amusement* Potentially.
I don't understand why that was funny, because it does seem pretty reasonable. A front pocket is safer for delicate material than a back pocket.
If you can relegate a wallet to be safely stored in a back pocket, you have an additional front pocket ready for objects that it's impossible to do this with.
7:03:00
(Fringy and Mauler pressing Rags on what one could POSSIBLY CONCEIVE OF putting in a front pocket.)
Rags lists some stuff like, phones, coins, pens, chapstick, pieces of paper(receipts?), knife, etc
Fringy: We have already established that the phone is in the OTHER pocket.
I did not hear where we established that, but some people have 2 phones- work and personal.
This also doesn't solve knife, chapstick, and pens- all of which are far more noticeable, and potentially damageable, if/when sat on.
Rags is on the spot here, so I think he forgot keys. Which is sometimes a big portion of space and certainly not comfy to sit on.
7:03:28
Fringy: Why would I put the thing that is uncomfortable to sit on in my back pocket?
Rags: My wallet's not uncomfortable to sit on, I sit on it all the time.
Fringy: I don't understand why...
Rags: Maybe it's uncomfortable because it has coins in it.
Mauler: No, YOU said that. Fringy didn't say that.
Fringy definitely IMPLIED it would be uncomfortable, which is WHY he asserts wallet in front pocket is superior. (Rather than posterior.)
Mauler you didn't address the point Rags made! You SIDESTEPPER.
This very specific point would have been-> IF you don't put coins in your wallet, THEN it isn't uncomfortable to sit on.
Mauler instead goes to-> IF you put coins in your wallet, THEN you can put your wallet in your front pocket.
They're vaguely linked, but not directly related enough you know Mauler's position on a sitting on a wallet that does not have coins in it- and I'm sure it would still be preferable to him to put it in his front pocket. However! His stance on the comfort of a coinless back pocket wallet was not updated or explored, when that was specifically the point Rags was addressing.
7:05:15
Again, never met an American that can't tell their 4 main coins apart by feel.
To a lot of Americans, it IS a superfluous additional step to -> 1remove wallet from pocket, 2unzip pouch, 3count out, 4hand over
as opposed to-> 1estimate count in pocket, 2pull out to confirm, 3hand over
7:06:20
As stated above^
You also don't have to pull your whole wallet out for things like vending machines, parking meters, restroom toiletry dispensers, gumball machines, laundromats, those animal feed dispensers at piers and zoos, penny pressers, etc- I've always found pocket change is safer than potentially dropping your wallet in busy places and walkways where some of these machines often sit.
7:06:53
Mauler: You've been arguing how it's tough to pack them away and get them out-
I thought he was just saying he doesn't ever use them. I might have missed that argument, but what I ACTUALLY heard was Rags saying that, IF he needs them, he JUST pulls them out: 7:06:32 .
Additionally, 7:06:55
Coins go in the change jar when you get home. Or the swear jar if you're not careful.
Can you believe people just throw pennies on the ground? They're that worthless to a surprising amount of people.
7:07:30
The penny change jar is always the largest, and always gets the fullest. It is never dipped into for pocket change.
No one wants pennies. People can barely even be bothered to carry the penny jar to a coin counter.
NO ONE WANTS TO LUG A GORILLION TONS OF PENNIES ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK ONLY TO BE HANDED BACK LIKE 3 BUCKS AND A DIME.
Pennies are a blight on American society and you just don't understand until you've lived the nightmare.
Your weird British coinwalletpursemanpouch would just be swimming in pennies. You would learn to separate them. You would begin putting them in your front pocket. And that's how it begins. Soon, the nickels. Then, the dimes. Before you know it, you, too, are simply reaching for your change pocket when you see the vending machines. That's why it's called pocket change, Mauler. POCKET CHANGE goes into your POCKETTTTSSSSSS
7:07:45
I was kinda asking myself this question back at 7:00:00 and I think it merits exploration.
7:08:05
whoa i didnt know this
i typed this entire essay out and they just ended up solving it aaaag
Fringy saying he doesn't see how it changes things- but I think about it like this.
Those little candies you see at the checkout? Last minute cheap treat for pocket change.
You can buy a whole candy bar for 1 $2 coin- Americans have to count out about 5 coins MINIMUM for that at $1.25.
Even if it's a less than $1 bar, it's 4 coins min.
7:09:30
I would wager it's because a wallet with coins in it just gets cramp packed way too full too quickly with how much American change gets tossed around, and it's just as easy to FEEL the coins out for that same second in your pocket, as it would take to pull out the whole wallet, unzip, and THEN only just BEGIN the counting afterwards. If you've lived like this, it's just how it works, I guess.
7:11:17
NO RAGS, DON'T CONFUSE THEM.
Dollar coins are NOT common! They are SO uncommon that even the new, good vending machines that take paper bills and credit cards MISTAKE the 1dollar coins FOR the 25cent coins! DO NOT USE $1 COINS IN VENDING MACHIIIINES
7:12:36
If he is wrong to assert your way is worse without having tried it or knowing anything about your money, you cannot fairly assert that your way works BETTER in an American system of currency, like you WERE asserting without clarification. That it works for YOUR system of currency is implicit, but you did not extend this grace to any of Rags' assumptions or points.
youtube comment box full, conclusion is;
mauler and fringy dont understand the menace that is pennies
i think it silly to say their way is better, if they dont know what american money is like.
i wasn't sure rags ever asserted one way was better? he mostly stated he doesnt like sitting on coins and wasnt sure coin in wallet is fewer steps.
i think it is fine to not put coins in a wallet, as much as it is fine to put coins in a wallet, if that is what works best for your life situation.
if america very commonly used $1 and $2 coins, i think things would be different. and COOLER. because i really like coins.
anyway, most of my thoughts probably arent helpful or good and already got addressed but
i typed it out for fun so i'll post the comment anyway, since its supposed to be good for um, metrics and stuff, probably
"You should experience coins in your wallet"
*Me after all my coins fall out of my wallet because it doesn't have a pouch for coins:* doubt
Thank you long ones. They shut down the internet at work for 5 hours and you were the only ones i could think of to download a video super quick and listen to for the rest of the work night.
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7:31:30 The concern is that once cash is completely cycled out of monetary use, credit card companies will be able to restrict your purchases, thereby eliminating the use of your own money as you have described.
Mauler and Fringy getting defensive over their purses. Lols.
Edit:
Wow that went long lmao. I want to see Mauler and Fringy at the counter sifting through thier purses for the 57 cents exactly like the 80 year old bingo grandma. Lol. So they HAVE to be into fanny packs then, right?
Omg, apologies....edit no.2.
Fringy and his magic Coins. Best friends, never apart, life is taken care of. Trusty coins. (And finding coins out of the palm of your hand IS easier than digging them out of a purse, i.e. having them in your pocket).
"What we do in the past affects the future".
Filmento and the Tomorrow War are just posters for "Consequentialist Man".
1:58:30 "Then he proceeds to honk it like a little clown horn."
On the subject of neat coins one of my favorite things to come by is Canadian currency that somehow made it south of the border.
I have a few Canadian pennies, and for the love of me, I have no idea how.
I find it ibcredibly stupid of Fringy to not realize that Rags isn't Australian, or an English citizen, and resides in an entirely different country and culture where we don't have coin pockets often in our wallets and tend to carry them in our back-right pocket. That's just an American truism.
This is such an ironic comment.
At least Hassan admits that he has been giving unwarrented bans for many years and hasn’t lost sleep for it
I used to work at a coin shop. People have the weirdest ideas about what they can get from a store for coins.
Like, people would come with a single shitty wheat penny, and expect a fortune, but then people would come in with a whole bag of 50 cent coins to sell to us.
They would then, 100% willingly, selling us those 50 cent coins for 40 cents each. Id be like "you know you can just take these to the bank right?" But no. They wanted to sell them.
The Klingon make up was addressed in DS9 because of a scene where Worf was in the same room as a group of TOS Klingons. It was a throw away line, which the Enterprise writers decided to do a story about as the show was already cancelled and they just wanted to make as many nods and tributes to the fans as they could. Rags has the right idea about ignoring that stuff, but he probably doesn't understand how much of a meme the Klingon make up was over the decades.
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5:27:42 That’s why ‘Titanic’ was a box office failure; everyone knew exactly how that was going to go.
wtf... way to spoil it
now im going to be in there, the entire time knowing the ships going down...
.... thanks
@@kwazhims3lf if the title didn’t give it away I don’t know what to tell ya. 😉
Whenever I see the load signal above Hasan's head, it reminds me of that saying Mauler laughs at.
Hasan's running on all Cinder Blocks.
I've been waiting for Dev to appear on EFAP
But left too early. What a nerd!
And he brought up the gf excuse like Chase 😑.
He's nice, hope you enjoyed his presence paired with the format.
😀
Well, atleast I have brought up EFAP on his Kakarot stream.
Who do you think would win a debate between Hassan and NoBS? The answer to that is WE would. Please comedy gods 🙏🙏
Assuming both have a plate full of warn chicken nuggies
As brainless as he is, my money's on NoBS. He can't debate for crap, but he can constantly move the goalpost long enough to clutch a win. Also, as terrible as his values are, at least he knows what they are.
That guy still exists?
>Debates are gay!
>I mean...uh...yeah I don’t disagree, debates are usually pretty stupid.
>right?! And people just take clips of you “contradicting yourself” and act like that’s a checkmate or something!
>oh dude I hate that uh...that bullsh__ is so god damn annoying!
>...so Hasan, if you’re in favor of socializing cars and factories and bikes, why not cut out the middle man and socialize the very people themselves? Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, noting against the state, right?
>uhh...I mean yeah sure I guess.
(Konnigratzer March intensifies)
@Purple Emerald I don't think he's good at debates either. However, I think Hasan will out-bad him at debates.
As proof I will cite Jay's recent video on him. When NoBS is shown debating, he is bumbling around and making no points, but he is constantly thinking on his feet, moving the goal post, and other things on the perimeter of debating.
As Jay said in that video, NoBS isn't really debating, he's only interested in making himself look good. The issue is that we have seen Hasan try and fail to even clear that bar.
This video has given me a new appreciation for the quality of the cast on EFAP
what was supposed to be a 10 second joke turns into a 5 minute conversation and explanation. i've been there as well SFO
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