Who are the Quranists?
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- There is talk within the Muslim community (and outside) of the so-called "Quranists" or the movement "Quranism". In this video I talk about, in very generalizing terms, what this term is referring to, and what its characteristics are.
#Quranism #Islam #Hadith
Most Muslims these days know more about Hadiths than Quran 🤦🏽♂️
Sadly true 😔
Thats because they arent muslim. Muslims follow the Quran only as did Muhammad. Everyone else follows whatever they wish.
@@m.w.1064 umm, without the Hadith, The Qur'an justifies beating wives and killing non believers.
@@professorshrimp5187 the Quran doesn't justify beating wives. I order for daraba based on it being an imperative verb in that ayat to constitute beating their would have to be an object to beat with in that verse but there isn't any so means go away from or separate from. So that's a lie. Also Quran says no compulsion in islam and only respond with equal force which is in defense so to just kill anyone is a lie. You guys must be poorly educated and lack context and canr read basic ayat to get the claims u make. Liars. No wonder ppl turn away from sectarian non Muslims like sunni and Shia u guys aren't even apart of Islam. Total embarrassment.
@@m.w.1064 in 8:12 also an 'object to beat with' isn't given. So you think the verse translates to " Separate from their necks and separate from every fingertip "? Also, you claim to be a superior in Islam yet you call other Muslims kaafir. Bravo.
This bears similarities to the Karaite sect within Judaism. The Karaites reject the Talmud as a legal document and believe that only the Torah (5 books of Moses) should be used for Jewish law.
Maybe it is also similar to Protestantism's emphasis on Bible.
@@ibraheemmoosa Good Point.
@@ibraheemmoosa Christianity doesn't really (as far as i know) have a body of text comparable to the hadith, though. All Christians would claim to primarily use the Bible.
@@jbkjbk1999 There is a group of texts called traditions of the early church followed by Catholic and Eastern orthodox churches like Magesterium.
And they are right.
The Original,and
Authentic TORAH,
in the Tongue of
MOSES should be
the only legal source of Judaic Jurisprudence as
it is accepted as
the word of God.
The Talmud on the
the other hand was
compiled by Jewish
Scholars while they
were in captivity in
Babylon and has no
authority for being the
word or God or of
any of His Prophets.
The Talmud cannot
therefore be
compared to the
Hadiyths of the
Prophet as those which are
genuine and based on
the authentic words
and deeds of the
PROPHET are an
inseparable part of
the Islamic
Religion.
The QUR'AAN states that any
one who attempts to
isolate the Prophet from ALLAAWH ,and
chooses what
injuction of the
PROPHET to follow
or discard according to his owb whim, is
an unbeliever.
The QUR'AAN states that the
PROPHET does not
speak out of his
whim but from the
inspiration of ALLAAH.
The QUR'AAN states
that the believers would
find in the PROPHET
the best example
to imitate.
The QUR'AAN has
recorded that
MUHAMMAD is
ABOVE excellency
in his Character.
And the PROPHET has warned anyone
who deliberately plants falsehood in
his words or deeds,
should prepare himself for an
everlasting life in
HELL. This means
even those who
deliberately or
otherwise claim that an authentic Hadiyth is false would fall in this trap.
So those who
claim to reject ALL
Hadiyth and Sunnah
of the PROPHET are
wrong as the
PROPHET was the
SUNNAH to follow
and those among
he lived were
privileged to
watch his actions
and hear his words,
follow them and pass
through generation
to generation that
we too can
participate and
love his PERFECT
life.
AISHAH, the
only wife who lived
with the PROPHET since her
maidenhood till his
death, and of whom
the PROPHET
recommended his
Disciples to learn
the Religion of
ISLAAM from, when
asked about the
Character of
MUHAMMAD,replied
" The same as the
QUR'AAN."
MUHAMMAD LIVED
AND PERSONIFIED
THE QUR'AAN IN
MOTION AND
SPEECH.
My man's pronunciation is Native-Arabic!
Almost *
he still has some letters he did not master yet.
@@belalabusultan5911 yeah i think it's impossible for foreigners to have perfect pronunciation. Even his English (while almost perfect obviously) is slightly off and you can hear he isn't a native speaker
Its his field of expertise
@@ovaloctopus8 I do not think. Indian can Pronounce as good as People living in Arabic speaking areas.
He definitely knows Arabic
When I was studying Religious Philosophy, one of the points about Islam that came up was the historic context. The Hadiths likely were recorded later precisely because they aren't part of the Qur'an and most likely were a way for Arab, Levantine and Persian people's of the early Caliphates to keep old cultural norms in a form adapted to Islam. Personally I think the Quranists have a major point because of this, the Hadiths say some less than savoury things to modern ears but that aren't necessarily inherent to Islam as a religion
The hadiths were in real time. They are interactions, conversations, events and situations that the prophet Muhammad was involved in. And the people who are experiencing it first hand are the people recording them. It’s true that a true written compilation was done after the death of the prophet (saw) by his companions who were with him during his life.
@@adnannunow58 My point is, is that the Hadiths are separated from the Quran itself. Their very concept is that years after the Prophets death, religious leaders of the time long after the Prophet himself recorded the addendums they thought ought to go alongside the Quran.
I say this gives the Quranists a point, because if the Quran is the word of the divine as transcribed by Muhammed with the help of a messenger angel and is meant to be THE letter of the holy law, it doesn't make much sense to make an additional separate book and pretend that it has the same authority.
Unless of course the caliphs, imams, emirs and sultans and so forth get a lot out of the Hadiths and making them the focus instead of the Quran
@@Rynewulf you got it all wrong. There was nothing like long after the prophet death. The Quran and the Hadith were being compiled both at the same time. There is an important pillar in Islam which is praying. No Muslim is a Muslim unless he prays. The Quran only talks about prayer and not how to pray. In the Hadith the prophet (saw) teaches us how to pray and the way to pray. They compliment each other . You wouldn’t understand somethings in the Quran without Hadith. The quranists are a new thing. No Muslim can separate the Quran and Hadith it has never been done beofre. It’s an innovation. So I urge you to do more research on why Hadith is important. Us Muslims can’t pick and chose want. The Quran even directs us to follow the teachings of the prophet. Do more research please.
@@adnannunow58 The Quranists had followers in the middle ages though? And Islam has many sects and varieties? Sunni vs Shia, the Sufis, competing schools of religious law courts, all the local sage veneration in north africa, the even more modern reactionaries from Saudi who are more recent than the revived Quranist movement?
There are big practical differences across the Islamic world, including through time. Some of the earliest mosques dont have the same core features as later ones. Islamic art through the ages shows radically different styles of religiously acceptable dress through time and places.
Im not saying any of this as a criticism of Islam btw, I find it interesting, but I think its quite fundamentalist to insist that differences that have always been there just arent and should be ignored.
Its a valid point to point out I probably havent caught on to WHY Muslims have for a long long time felt the Hadiths as necessary, but its not much of a rebuke to the point that some Muslims seem to abuse the Hadiths to get around inconvenient parts of the Quran
@@Rynewulf you are right , there have been many deviations from islam, sects , and many ideologies have branched from it. It’s encouraged for a true Muslim to do his due diligence and return to the core principles,the teachings of the prophet (saw) which is Hadith and the teachings of the Quran which is Gods words and book. A true Muslim will take the 2 together and not leave 1 or the other. Regarding these new deviations and innovations this was already prophesied by the prophet. As much as I hate to say it, finding a true Muslim will only get harder as time goes by, but one will only be safe if they pay attention to all aspect of the faith instead choosing 1 or the other. I will
Mention 2 Hadiths below of such prophecy
Anytime I read the Quran I feel protected, relieved and a lot of it makes so much sense as I've gained some knowledge but when I read the hadiths it confuses me about what is being said.
My opinion on most Hadith is, to quote the Quran (Surah of Imran) "And [mention, O Muhammad], when Allah took a covenant from those who were given the Scripture, [saying], ‘ You must make it clear to the people and not conceal it.’ But they threw it away behind their backs and exchanged it for a small price. And wretched is that which they purchased." AND "And indeed, among the People of the Scripture are those who believe in Allah and what was revealed to you and what was revealed to them, [being] humbly submissive to Allah. They do not exchange the verses of Allah for a small price. Those will have their reward with their Lord. Indeed, Allah is swift in account." ESPECIALLY SURAH 2 "So woe to those who write the ‘ scripture’ with their own hands, then say, ‘ This is from Allah,’ in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."
God made sure to make the point clearly many times, the only true revelation is from him.
@@Mortablunt What I find mostly with Sunni Muslims or Muslims who follow the Sunnah, want a strict set of instructions when doing anything they want it spelt out to them by scholars or imams. Even though we are encouraged to use our own initiative when coming to our own moral conclusions.
Islam is fake
@@yurichtube1162 We can't say, but we can say there is a God. Who wants to do righteous deeds, pay the prescribed alms and believe in the oneness of Allah.
@@munib1000 the Book says to pray five times a day. The Hadith and extra show how best to do so. Ergo, follow the Quran to the T, follow the Hadith with a grain of salt
Love your work. As a non-believer, I find joy and fulfillment of my curiosity by pursuing the knowledge of religion. Thanks to your videos, I get to learn about the nuances of many religions, including Islam.
can we have a discussion?
@@shadygaming6523 Religious proselytizers: Academic forums are _far_ from the place
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!*
Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!!
Philippians 2:5-8
@@shadygaming6523 I'm a little late XD, but sure
No, you can't. Glory be to ash-Shaytan and al-Masih ad-Dajjal! He'll come soon! @@shadygaming6523
What a logical and wonderfully educational way to give insight into basic questions that we all have. Love it
logical? educational? no, there are too errors in this little book that humans call great : th-cam.com/video/ShaWeLvFjwk/w-d-xo.html
The way he pronounces "Ahl-al Hadith"
4:12
RESPECT
Yeah, he pronounced it better than Turks who say ehlül hadis
@@oreste8570 in hindi - urdu too we pronounce “hadis" instead of 'hadith'
@@oreste8570 some Turks :)
@Pourya to some people, it is hard especially Americans that don’t have letters even NEAR 7a
This guy has amazing pronounciation for a foreigner. Its incredible
A number of years ago, I came across an Islamic website with links to many quite well written, well researched and well argued articles. The website's purpose was to use rational arguments to defend Islam against all of the negative stereotypes (terrorism, suicide bombers, honour-killings, etc). The articles often cited Koranic verses to support their arguments. The arguments in many of the articles proceeded from a Quranist premise
- the argument often went that, if a certain practice is not advocated or mandated in any verse of the Quran, then it's not Islam, therefore you can't blame Islam for practices which are not advocated or mandated in any Koranic verse.
What a lot of Arab type folks don't seem to understand is that to white America they are colored, white America hates colored folks and this is a race war
@@tesmith47 Nobody asked you about anything.
@@tesmith47 what?
That just sounds like the No True Scotsman Fallacy stretched over however many pages or articles. Mere gatekeeping really doesn't hold up to scholarly rigor, not does it jive with a non-abolutist, non-sectarian understanding of religion. If a suicide bomber is a deeply religious person motivated to act by their faith, then that action becomes associated with that faith no matter what an orthodox elite might say, and no matter if that isn't convenient for destroying Islamophobia (which does of course deserve to be undone)
Whats the website called?
Thank you for this educational piece. Keep up the excellent work! 🇨🇦
Thank you!
*Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*
In the Quran, it states the Quran is fully complete and detailed- 6:114-6:115. This means nothing is missing and is all you need.
Without hadith it is impossible to fully understand quran. If i may i can give you examples
@@abdellatif9632 do you mean the Quran is not fully detailed and incomplete. God needed help? What about all the people who, at the beginning, who only had Quran? The Hadith were compiled several hundred years later. How did they know what to do?
@@nihao3273 if you are refering to the time the companions, they have the prophet himself as hadith. If you r talking about the generation after that called tabiines, they learned hadiths and quran from the companions. And that is how quran and hadiths is transfered from a generation of schoolars to an other. Everything in islam has a chain of naration. That includes quran. Pick any quran in any reading of the 10, in any mosque in any muslim country, you will find a chain or sanad in the end of it.
Please don't let any one tell you that the hadith has been writen 200 y after the prophet and therefore makes no sense. The 10 readings of quran have been writen also more than 200 y after the prophet, that doesn't make them wrong.
The imam malik son of the servant of the prophet wrote the first complete book of hadith
@@abdellatif9632 so, when Muhammad received all of the verses of the Quran and when the Quran said “This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed my favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion.” (Qur’an, 5:3), it was wrong, because the Hadith made it more perfect?
God did not forget to include those things in book he calls “fully complete”. The Hadith are one of the most Divisive texts in the world. Different sects have different Hadith, ignoring others or saying these are fraud but not these others.
There were tons of Muslims in the beginning of Islam who didn’t have Hadith.
The Quran is perfect. God promised to protect the Quran from corruption, not the Hadith though. I believe Satan used the Hadith to divide Muslims against one another as the only way to corrupt the religion, like he did to Christianity, Judaism, etc.
like I said in a previous post, there are even Hadith saying not to trust hadith
@@nihao3273 dear friend
None said that any verse of the quran is incorrect. But every verse can be understood in so many meanings without the hadith. The quran says that you must give zakat (kind of islamic tax). I can understand it as one dollar per year, you can understand as half of your fortune every year and none could blame you or me.
But please sir, back to our topic, i would love if we focus on the last point which is the writing of the hadith. As i said you can't reject it because it wasn't writen before 200 y after the prophet. I told you two facts: one, that the 1st complete hadith book is the moataa of imam malik son of anas ibn malik who is one of the prophet's companions. Second: the 10 readings of the quran like warsh, hafs, douri,... have also been writen in the 3th century and also have at least 5 narrator in their chains. Did you check these two ideas?
Thank you for this video, sir. Could you please provide the reference for the early Muslim qādhis (judges/magistrates) not making extended use of the Hadith? That would be highly appreciated. Thanks again, and Salam!
🌹 thank you for the shout out for Hassan Farhan al-Maliki! And this was a very good round up and very accurate. An important element though that I think you missed is the consideration that most of the major practical issues are not really taken from Hadith, the go to example being prayer/salat. No Muslim really learns it from Hadith, nor, if you give to give someone, who has never seen a Muslim pray, all the Hadiths on prayer, could he/she ever come up with the traditional salat. They are not detailed and descriptive enough and often just argue about minor details on the assumption that you know the prayer.
So perhaps that kind of a discussion ... a sort of Hadith vs Sunna vs mass transgenerationally inherited practices, and how that relates to Quranism, is needed in this video.
Still a very good informative video, thank you for posting it. The admission near beginning that the majority of Islam is in actuality based on the Hadith and not the Qur'an is refreshing. 👍
This is only the 3rd video I've seen from your channel and I am very impressed so far
You do know that Hasan Farhan al-Maliki is not a Qur’anist, unless you're using another definition of what Qur’anism is.
@@moroccandeepweb5880
Well I never said he was. I said thanks for the shout out. It is our friend here who made the video about Quranism who put him in it.
@@QuranicIslam فك الله أسره
Speaking as a Qurani, who studied under Benni Yameen, who studied under Sami Ayoub. I can tell you we don’t believe in ANY physical Sallah. The Sallah Allah reveals in the Quran can be understood simply by studying the root of the words صلو means a connection when Allah says Iqam AsSallah إقام الصلاة what he means is “establish a connection”. A Connection is between two points what are those two points you may ask? The wisdom Allah provided us in the Quran is at one end of the connection and at the other end; the application of said wisdom in our everyday lives.
@@codystevens403
That "we" is a problem though when you say "we Quranis", because there are others who call themselves Quranists who do in fact believe in a physical salat. And putting forward "having studied under X and Y" as something authoritative is exactly what many self-defined Quranists would call a problem and the telltale sign of sect while those Quranists would say that one of point in putting the Qur'an above all is that you won't be tied in a sectarian manner.
When I was studying Islam years ago, it occurred to me that the Hadiths were problematic and the Quran should probably be the only text considered authoritative. I didn't realize that this was actually some sort of movement, however.
the hadiths are literally disturbing .
@@byron-ih2ge
And in my understanding and the understanding of many muslims the majority of the hadiths are fabricated I mean just look at the timeline.
@@justaguywithaturban6773 bro i am not even talking about hassan or daif hadiths they are satanic all together . i am talking about sahih hadiths . just reading the two most authentic and what makes a simple muslim a sunni muslim ,the sahih bukhari and sahih muslim are enough for someone to leave islam they are that disturbing and strange.
@@justaguywithaturban6773 i think thats why 90 percent of muslims know about hadiths only through their priest because if they read it themselves then 😂😂 islam is really gonna have a bad time
@@justaguywithaturban6773 if ur a quranist only then ur comment is valid
Wow. Imagine if Christians had a Bible and then another book called "life of Jesus" written by some German 200 years after Christ and we use that second book as an authority over the Bible. This is ridiculous! I as a Christian fully support these Quranists
Bro these sunnis love labelling those who believe in Quran alone as Quranists when in the Quran the believers are called Muslim.
They are sectarians and proudly identify with their sects.
Those who follow Quran: we are identify simply as Muslims.
Christians do have that... it's called church fathers
> Casually describes American Evangelists
That's basically Catholicism
Some centuries after the death of their prophet, muslims *needed* to develop Hadith traditions because the Quran is very different from the Bible. Almost any book of the Bible gives you enough context to understand most of the text by itself, without the need of external information. The Quran is not like that. There are surahs, or big parts of surahs, that would be incomprehensible without external information to fill the gaps. It's like introducing yourself into a conversation that started before your arrival; the people talking know what they were talking about, but you don't, and they never explain the context to you. Many times the Quran is just like that, and you will notice it if you read it. A pure form of quranism, in which all the information provided by hadiths is entirely rejected, is impossible for that same reason. But quranists still have a point in the sense of being more skeptical about some of the supposed information provided by hadith collections; information that sunnis and shias often take as absolute truth, without being critical enough about the source.
Mate, your fantastic. Thank you for this!
:)
@@LetsTalkReligion you are sooo blessed.
God continue to bless you for making the meaning of Islam CLEAR as a CRYSTAL.
Blessed is the mother who gave birth to a soul like you.
*Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*
I don't know your name, but admitting that you know more than a common MUslim, more tolerant than a religious leader. How can you be so awesome? I am a old Muslim. 66 years I passed as a dedicated Muslim. But there were many many times I became frustrated and inquisitive about our traditional Hadiths. Quran itself is a complete book and a complete guideline. If I follow all words of Quran and nothing from Hadith (Hadis) , Will my creator going to punish me for following Quran's words but hot the man made Hadith or will my creator award me the Paradise? In my own educated belief is Quran is sufficient enough. Period!
Really really deep dude. You have given this topic a lot of thought, clearly.@@spreaderofalhaqq
@@infamous7530Allah himself has said to follow the prophet.
So how can you follow the prophet without his sayings aka the hadiths?
@@Shahi-bangalah_1352The prophet’s Sole Purpose was to deliver The Message. He was not a lawmaker, nor did he have that authority. Quran also says obey Allah, The Prophet AND those who have authority. Does that mean you’ll go looking for the hadith of the authorities back then?
@@TheBadgerr But how can you obey the prophet without his sayings?
@@Shahi-bangalah_1352 By following the Quran. The salat, and everything we say in the salat are in the Quran. As stated 8 times within the Quran, the Sole Purpose, sole, singular purpose of Sidna Mohammad Salallahu Allayhi Wa Salam, was to deliver The Message. I agree that following the structure of salat as we have it now, is important, since it indeed encompasses every obligation stated within the Quran, but appart from that and the Quran itself, there is nothing more to follow. This is the Sunnah of Allah.
Major Misconception Clarification:
Uthmān the 3rd Khalīfah was not the first to compile the Qur'ān into one book. Rather he only standardised its script and nothing more. Some of the sahabah already had personal copies of the Qur'ān during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم and the time of the first Khalīfah Abū Bakr رضي الله عنه.
*Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*
Important
Ali-ibn-ibrahim the great commentator of quran who lived in the third century A.H has narrated form imam sadiq (as) that the prophet ordered this cousin, son-in-low, and vicegerent. Hazrat ali (AS) to collect and compile the different parts of quran, which were than written upon pieces of silk, paper, skin of animals and etc.
The narrator add that “HAZRAT(AS) fulfilled the commandment, sincerely collecting the scattered pieces and parts. He than wrapped all the parts in a yellow cloth and took them for compilation.”
Besides that; the famous tradition of the prophet, which is related by many, and through successive witness; “I shall go and leave among you two heavy things: the book of allah, and my kins.”Is an enough proof that qurahad already been compiled in prophet time
As for view that some say:” hazrat ali (AS) compiled the book, after the prophet”, it should be known that, what was collected by hazrat ali (AS), after the prophet, was not merely the text of quran: It rather was collection consisting of the text with various comments, of the prophet anout different verses and the historical evidences, and some details and reasons for the revelations, and etc.
@@Meliodasthesinofwrath the proof is from the Quran that the Quran was written in the time of Mohammad? Dubious at best. Not a strong proof.
@@rintrah81 proof is strong but you are ignorance
⚠️⚠️Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️
Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
The Name Jesus means------------- "YHWH RESCUE"
Elijah means------------- --------------" MY GOD IS YHWH"
John means ----------------------------" YHWH has been gracious""
Zakariya means -----------------------""YHWH has remembered""
Jacob means----------------------------"YHWH will PROTECT!"
are all prophets according to the Quran
It is narrated by Abu Hurrairah that the Prophet said: "Do not believe everything you read on the internet."
Sahih-al-Bukhari Kitab ul internet Hadith number 101
I've heard that the isnad is weak on that one.
This cracked me up 🤣
@@LetsTalkReligion Its Isnad is weaker on my 5G connexion , lol
Hi
If you are a Muslim, make tawba for what you've said.
If not, learn to respect other people's beliefs.
you just nailed down💖 May Almighty grant you more knowledge. peace be upon you.
Thanks for this video,,,it's really academic and has covered most of details about quransim.
I'm Quranist, and Quranists can't show their beliefs without being harassed by other muslims sects, I have lost my job due to my religious convictions..
One who doesn't believes or follows in prophet Mohammad s.w.a pbuh is a arrogant knowledge less Muslim....Its like a ocean without water...i don't even know if Allah gonna accept those...
Sorry to hear about your job!
@@whoswho8241 Making fake accounts or comment won't help you either, my child.
Ishu Better Than You being a innovator and infiltrating Islam won’t get muslims to change, brah
Thatsadly happens.
This particular group is really interesting to me. I would love to see more videos about them.
The Prophet of Allah (Peace be upon him) warned us of them in a hadith.
@@anasm4496 hadiths are fake
@The Sufficient Qur'an uP
@The Sufficient Qur'an you have a channel, post a video of yourself explaining deeply what is quranist.
Where can I find a video of a quranist that recite the quran in proper Arabic not English recitation.
@@actualscapegoat
You have no knowledge of hadiths you are the one who is fake and ignorant
Great channel brother. Very nuanced and careful considerations.
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The amazing science of Hadith
Which eye is dajjal blind of?
Ibn Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). made a mention of Dajjil in the presence of the people and said: Allah is not one-eyed and behold that Dajjal is blind of the *right eye* and his eye would be like a floating grape. Sahih Muslim 41:7005
Hudhalfa reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Dajjal is blind of *left eye* with thick hair and there would be a garden and fire with him and his fire would be a garden and his garden would be fire. Sahih Muslim 41:7010
a rich and unbiased presentation of islam and muslims. It is amazing.
You did a better job than any Muslim that I know. I really appreciate your details and narrations.
NOw that is very unfair because if you DO NOT KNOW any, of course, you would make a ridiculous statement like this. Your statement is more of your own ignorance of things that his "BETTER JOB". This channel is secular and for explaining Islam to primarily non-Muslims. It is excellent in this regard, however. Way deeper stuff exists by Muslim scholars.
You not able to debate with me my friend regarding Islam. You ignorant plus I speak Arabic do you speak Arabic ?
@@africanhistory 👏👏👏
Amazing video. Thank you for your efforts
So i'm a quranist without even knowing 🤣🤣
Doubt it... I'm sure you follow and accept the practises and wisdom of the prophet (saw)
@@skp8748Never. I don't follow humans, only God.
Seriously watching all episodes, all are very interesting.,🙏🌹
If quranism is to be 100% trusting of the Quran over everything including hadith I am therefore a quranist :)
I think Quranism goes a step or two further than that. It not only trusts the Quran over hadith, but it also disregards hadith.
Doesn't disregard unless it doesnt coincide with Quran. As it should be Alhumdulilah
@@zagazow6398 it coincides with their understanding not the Quran don't speard falsehood
number two they deny hadiths saying the quran doesn't ask us to follow the sunnah.
Quranism is following the Quran only and rejecting the Hadith. This is obviously haram as Allah in the Quran says in 4:59:
>O believers! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. Should you disagree on anything, then refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day. This is the best and fairest resolution.
This verse alone debunks Quranism. Here are some other resources:
**Why do we need the Hadith? Isn’t the Quran Enough?**
Why do we need Hadith if the Quran is enough? - Nouman Ali Khan: th-cam.com/video/bB4cARWalY4/w-d-xo.html
The important of the Sunnah - Dr Zakir Naik: th-cam.com/video/7UHausaQqTE/w-d-xo.html
Is the Quran incomplete without the Hadith? - Zakir Naik: th-cam.com/video/L-4jC5iAl8E/w-d-xo.html
Hadith is necessary to understand the Quran: yaqeeninstitute.org/emadhamdeh/are-hadith-necessary/
If the Quran is complete, why Sunnah? islamqa.info/en/answers/93111/if-the-quran-is-perfect-and-completeand-contains-everything-needed-for-the-laws-and-regulations-of-shareeah-what-need-is-there-for-the-sunnah
**General resources comprehensively refuting Quranists/Quraniyoon (Hadith Rejectors)**
Fitna of the Quranists:
thethinkingmuslim.com/2013/08/28/rejecting-hadiths/
Refuting the argument that the Quran is complete, and therefore we do not need the Hadith:
www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_the_argument_that_the_quran_is_complete_and_therefore_we_don_t_need_hadith_
Questions that No Quranist have logical answers to:
www.call-to-monotheism.com/questions_that_the_quranites_have_no_good_logical_responses_to
Proofs from the Quran for the need for Sunnah, (Part II in the sidebar) (and 14 more parts in the book)
www.sunnah.org/fiqh/usul/probativeness_sunna/Default.htm
It is Unfeasible to Act Solely On the Basis of the Qur'an (Part XIV in sidebar) (and 14 more parts in the book)
www.sunnah.org/fiqh/usul/probativeness_sunna/Default.htm (Alt: www.livingislam.org/ps16_e.html)
Authority of the Hadith in light of the Quran
www.letmeturnthetables.com/2010/09/authority-of-hadith-from-quran.html
The Fallacies of Anti-Hadith Arguments
www.ilmgate.org/the-fallacies-of-anti-hadith-arguments/
The Authority of the Sunnah in Islam by Mufti Muhammad Taqi Usmani (PDF)
archive.org/details/TheAuthorityOfSunnahByMuftiTaqiUsmani
There is no Islam without the Hadiths, because the Hadiths are required to explain a lot of things and context in the Quran. The Quran by itself is almost useless as a guide to Muslims. Most of the Islamic practices come from the Hadiths, like the number of daily prayers. You would not even now the name of your prophet without the Hadiths and the early biography of Muhammad.
Your videos are very informative and academic, without much bias. Thanks for taking the time and making such contents
Thank you very much :)
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Do you also reject mutawaatir (mass transmitted) ahaadith?
@AAZinvicto Yes.
We believe that ahadith should be read and taken only as historical narratives giving us a good idea of how people used to live. They should never be taken as scriptures from which religious laws would be derived.
The only source of laws for us is the protected Word of God (Quran).
@@BalconyGardening1915
Good to know that you don't doubt the authenticity of Mutawaatir ahaadith.
But still, this is in a direct contradiction to "Ati Ullah wa ati ur Rasool" (Obey Allah and obey the Messenger) mentioned in the Qur'an.
We don't find Sahaba saying to the Messenger ﷺ "Why should we do what You are saying? We'll only obey what's in the Qur'an. Why are you showing us these extra steps in Wudu, like rinsing the mouth, cleaning the nose. etc?"
@@AAZinvicto no it doesn't contradict that verse because ahadith didn't come from the prophet, why can't you get this simpàle fact through your thick skull?
@AAZinvicto Esselamu Aleykum brother,
Sorry, I never got notified of your reply. It was by accident that I noticed it. So, as they say, better late than never, here is my reply:
That verse instructs early Muslims to obey the prophet Mohammed (pbuh). Of course, Muslims were expected to obey the prophet while he lived among them.. We all know, the prophet hasn’t been alive for over 1400 years now. Ahadith do not represent the prophet. Ahadith are collections of narrations which are supposedly third person accounts of prophet's words and/or actions. However, these could never be verified as such.
Sure, many Muslims would quickly point out at something they call the science of Hadith. By this, they are referring to the methods which hadith compilers used in order to determine which ahadith are authentic and which ones are not. They like to call it the science even though there is absolutely nothing scientific about it. Authenticating and sorting out narrations (ahadith) was nothing more than a guess work. You can even call it educated guess work since clearly there was some method applied to the process of elimination. Was that method 100% fool-proof?. Of course, it wasn't. It's worth mentioning that the first collection of Ahadith was gathered approximately 200 years after prophet's death. How many companions of the Prophet were alive at the time first Hadith collection got written down?
The answer: NONE.
At least three generations of people lived and died between the time Quran was compiled and the time first Ahadith collection was compiled. Who could actually prove the chain of narration if all the witnesses, their children, and their children's children happen to be all dead?
Think about it!
Hadith collectors did their best when it comes to sorting them out. However, they had no certain way of knowing.The question is: Should we jepardise our faith by accepting and obeying unreliable sources based purely on guess work? Or should we derive the rules to follow from the only reliable source that God promised to protect? The choice is yours.
I believe ahadith should be read and taken only as historical narratives giving us a good idea of how people used to live. They should never be taken as scriptures from which religious laws would be derived. The only source of laws for us is the protected Word of God (Quran). Here are some Verses which support this statement:
“These (are the) Verses, (of) Allah We recite them to you in truth. Then in which hadith besides Allah’s Verses will they believe?” 45:6
I“Or have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all things which God has created? Or that perhaps their time may be drawing near? In which Hadith after this will they believe in” 7:185
“God has brought down the best Hadith; a book (Quran) that is consistent in its frequent repetitions.” 39:23
“So in which hadith, other than this (Quran), will they believe?” 77:50
[18:27] “You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord’s Scripture (the Quran). Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.”
Pay special attention to the last one:
[18:27] “You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord’s Scripture (the Quran). Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.”
I look at what the bold letters say: Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.”
I highlighted that sentence because as you probably know there are some(maybe more than some) Sunni scholars who actually believe in arrogation of Quranic verses. Yes, they would rather abrogate the Words of God in to give credibility to rulings which are based purely on Hadith.
To me only a scholar of Quran is the scholar of Islam. The scholar of ahadith can easily arrive at the wrong conclusions and the wrong ruling.
All that is important for us to know is clearly described in Quran.
Unless, you think your Lord is a liar(God forbid)
"A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail / distinguished (Arabic: Fussilat); a Quran in Arabic, for people who understand" 41:3
"By the Book that makes things clear, We have made it an Arabic Quran so that you may understand." 43:2,3
"(This is) a Book, with verses perfected, moreover explained in detail / distinguished (Arabic: Fussilat) from One Who is Wise and Well-acquainted (with all things)" 11:1
“And on the day when We will raise up in every people a witness against them from among themselves, and bring you as a witness against these and We have revealed the Book to you explaining clearly / clarification of everything (Arabic: tibiana lekulli shayin), and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who submit” 16:89
“Blessed is He Who has revealed to His slave the criterion of right and wrong (Arabic: Furqan), that he may be a warner to the peoples" 25:1
"By the Book that makes things clear, surely We sent it down on a blessed night-We have always sent warnings-" 44:2,3
"We have made this Quran easy to understand-in your own language-so that they may take heed."44:58
"We have made it easy to learn lessons from the Quran. Is there anyone who would receive admonition?" 54:17
“This is a blessed Book which We sent down to you [Muhammad], for people to ponder over its messages, and for those with understanding to take heed.” 38:29
Here God is asking you to read and think about what you have read. He is not asking you to obey whatever some mujtahid said and never use your brain.
The verses I have quoted are clear and not taken out of context.
As a Muslim I used to wonder why do you need Hadith if Quran is perfect.
Well Hadith is a collection of sayings and teachings of the prophet Muhammad. It is the most important source of religious laws of Islam. Hadith are written by scholars who were born later than the Prophet, and there are differences in their memories, intellects and their interpretations of what the prophet said or gave approval. Hadith are ascribed to Muhammad Saheb and play an important role in the interpretation of Islamic laws.
-Quran is the sacred writings of the faith of Islam revealed by Allah to Prophet Muhammad are contained in a book called Quran. The word Quran literally means recitation, and the book is a compilation of what the almighty revealed to Muhammad. Quran is the leading light of the Muslims around the world and it has been there for more than a thousand years helping adherents of Islam to lead a good and chaste life that is according to the commandments of the almighty. Obedience to these commandments in one’s life leads to salvation. Following the principles of Quran ensures a rich and rewarding life on this planet.
If hadith was against the quran then that hadith is false because there's many of them , hadith is just what the prophet said but we are not sure if he said it or not because after the prophet muhammed died 200 years bukhari make those hadith by going to scholers and heard by them but still we can't be sure if he said it or not so what we have to do is if hadith is against the quran which the word of allah then it's very simple that hadith is false
@@falconx4803 not like the quuran wasn't full of contradictions anyway...
@@justak2121 yeah, the Quran has 0 contradictions.
If you read Koran by pure clean heart you will know if the hadith true or false.
As a non-denominational Muslim I want to thank you for the effort you're doing in making very informative videos and researching every topic related to religions. I wished that you would mention that Not all the hadiths are problematic, as it depends on two factors:
1- The authenticity of the hadith because not all hadiths are considered authentic.
2- The number of people who transmitted the hadith, some hadiths were transmitted by one or two people who are mostly companions of the prophet Muhammad when hadith was collected, while others were transmitted by more than five people and I think they can be problematic depending on the topic or the context.
But you have to understand that hadith that specifically says aisha was a kid. Is considered authentic. That lets you know that the Hadith is bullcrap and whoever made it hated Muhammad prophet Muhammad peace and blessings upon him. And also try to slander him in the most terrible way possible.
@@divestedkonservativekarame4269
Exactly. Then Orthodox Muslims will defend that Hadith and make up crazy arguments to support it. In their mind if a Hadith is sahih they equate it to the Quran.
@@toseef777This is a tactic of the kuffar. They quote a verse like 4:34 where you can physically discipline your wife and base it off todays liberal secular society. You’re falling into the same thing.
@@luf832 There is no logical way way of defending Ayesha being married at 9 Hadith. It goes against the Quran, yet literalist Muslims treat it like it’s some holy revelation.
@@divestedkonservativekarame4269No, maybe you grew up in a western country that called the prophet a bad person for marrying her at a young age, but this wasn’t an actual argument against Islam until the early 1900s from an orientalist. For almsot 1300 years, no one enemies of Islam or scholars brought up the age of Aisha. Sorry if you want to try and make Islam fit your non believing frejnds better by forcing a modern view on the times they lived in, but life back then isn’t the same as today. People didnt live very long, and it was normal for people to get married younger then, if you can’t handle that fact then I don’t know what to tell you, for Christians in the Old Testament with Jacob and others they also married ppl at a young age
If hadith tells me take care of neighbor it's true because it goes with Qur'an. But if it tells something that contradict Qur'an I don't believe it.
Same we should take Quran as our source but there is nothing wrong to believe in hadith that do not goes against Quran. We can learn the life of our prophet by reading hadith we just have to be carefull. Since we have good intentions by reading hadith and we still consider Quran as our source we are fine.
lol lol yes
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@BRRP saying that all of hadith is not true would be absurd. Obviously there is right and wrong in hadith. Because there is truthful people who narrated it because their ancestors really heard it and some not. Simple as that. We can distinct good hadith by going with Qur'an. Not by scholars saying it's true. Because many hadiths are classified as true but still have no logic.
That is literally how they prove if hadith are actually real. If the hadith contradicts the quran, even if it's from the most credible source and has been perfectly preserved, then it won't even be considered as a hadith
Prayer does not come from the Hadith, but from the practical Sunnah (the practical transmission of Traditions from the Prophet to his community up to the day) which Quranists do not reject. This does not negate, that lots of Hadith collections speak about prayer, but the prayer itself is rooted in practical guidance by the prophet.
Do you recite tashahhud in prayer?
u cant prove the authenticity of Quran without ahadith
@@sm1468 actually its the opposite because in order to believe in the quran you have to believe that the prophet spoke the words of the quran and the hadith are versions of opinions and stories from the prophets followers
@@mohammedmatagi7983 no u actually cant prove the preservation of Quran without ahadith
And where do you get the practical Sunnah from?
I'd like to see a video on how the Qu'ran was compiled during and after the prophet's death!
Interesting topic, but also difficult to cover because there is so little historical information available!
There was no video camera back then.
in book format
We have certainly sent down to you a Book in which is your mention. Then will you not reason?21.10
PLEASE take guidance from the Quran book itself
@@aqeel-3771 uP
@@aqeel-3771 Book format??..How or who compiled the Quran into a book format..Allah himself ??..Who.
Hi Filip !
Can you make a video about A sufi saint from Indian subcontinent 's city Jhang now in Pakistan, His name Was Sultan Bahu and his sufi order was Sarwari Qadri order and he was a hanafi Sunni and His Teaching was about Visualising Name of Allah and Prophet Muhammad s.a.w and About Faqr Spiritual Concept of Poverty...
I'll add him to the list!
I have a lot of respect for Quranism and even went through a Quranist phase myself. You summed up in this video the biggest issue I had with it too: a lot of the religious rituals are indeed difficult to practice without referring to the hadith. The common arguments I've seen around this, though, are that the specifics of these practices have been passed down through the generations, thus nobody really looks towards hadith on how to perform them. While that may be true it doesn't consider the fact that these details that are being passed down may have originally come from the oral tradition that later got written down as hadith.
You can derive salaah from the Quran, and what it actually is, Hadith or use of the context and attributions to the messenger as an explanation of Quran to a particular way i.e 5 times a day 3 times a day style robot shenanigans, psssst it's called going down the lizard hole like previous generations, I e they misunderstood the verses/ commands , when they were corrected i.e through prophets they still insisted on the superfluous ways, they shackled themselves
Maryam was told to do RUKU with those that do RUKU, SUJOOD is not mentioned after this or before
RUKU = humble, humility, incline etc
In other words be amongst a community who show these traits
But Hadith will transform this verse into proof of 1 way of " prayer " , should be translated as connection s-w-l root of Salaah means to connect, aqeemussalaah = establish the connection
What is the connection how? What times ?
The Quran is the Zhikr , understanding the parables, learning data of all kinds to help you understand the Zhikr, those that seek the akhirat ( delayed diligent approach) not the rushed way or rushed interpretation
Mujrimoon is translated as criminals but should be Butchers of interpretation, that's actually the more accurate translation
Yes so having a routine is establishing a connection and if it's in the mindfulness of your lord then yes that's a salaah
Pray standing, sitting or lying on your side, this verse is indicating form isn't important but more importantly establish a frequency in doing so , so that you may benefit
Most people work they have fajar to do the connection I e their way from what Allah has declared i.e Zhikr of Quran and all that entails and Qunoot ( deep mediation, reflection and no speaking ) then zhour ( lunch time ) then evening prayer
Then some verses specific other times but all is hinting at a routine and 3 seems to be a starting point, it fits most peoples routine, and those who are retired, more free time are able to offer more time/s in connection
So salaah has been misunderstanding, they are all down the rabbit hole,
Muslims were doing their salaat and other rituals well before the hadiths were written.
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Yes , the way they pray now is the Jewish prayer, Muhammad was also commanded to pray as such when he was a prophet for the Jews, because that's how they prayed and he had to also do the same for an appointed time so as not to get rejected outright by the people he came to rectify
And the mumineen ( believers 👈 presant and future tense) in Quran says you can pray standing sitting or lying on your sides 👈 the mumineen have no connection with Bani Israel, Allah says their fathers were not warned
Ya ayyuhal latheena amanu 👈 those that believed 👈 past tense, indicates those who already knew tawheed i.e Bani Israel
So Muhammad was a prophet for Bani Israel and a messenger of Quran for the believers
It's a shame ummayad infiltration of Islam early and corrupted the Deen,
Quraish assassinated all the righteous, and started saying Quran was revealed in their dialect, but Quran have many words Arabs don't understand because they were not Arabic origin
@@thebeesnuts777uran only Muslims love being heretics
Al-Hajj 22:26
وَإِذْ بَوَّأْنَا لِإِبْرَٰهِيمَ مَكَانَ ٱلْبَيْتِ أَن لَّا تُشْرِكْ بِى شَيْـًٔا وَطَهِّرْ بَيْتِىَ لِلطَّآئِفِينَ وَٱلْقَآئِمِينَ وَٱلرُّكَّعِ ٱلسُّجُودِ
English - Sahih International
And [mention, O Muḥammad], when We designated for Abraham the site of the House, [saying], "Do not associate anything with Me and purify My House for those who perform ṭawāf[1] and those who stand [in prayer] and those who bow and prostrate.
Al-Fath 48:29
مُّحَمَّدٌ رَّسُولُ ٱللَّهِۚ وَٱلَّذِينَ مَعَهُۥٓ أَشِدَّآءُ عَلَى ٱلْكُفَّارِ رُحَمَآءُ بَيْنَهُمْۖ تَرَىٰهُمْ رُكَّعًا سُجَّدًا يَبْتَغُونَ فَضْلًا مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرِضْوَٰنًاۖ سِيمَاهُمْ فِى وُجُوهِهِم مِّنْ أَثَرِ ٱلسُّجُودِۚ ذَٰلِكَ مَثَلُهُمْ فِى ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِۚ وَمَثَلُهُمْ فِى ٱلْإِنجِيلِ كَزَرْعٍ أَخْرَجَ شَطْـَٔهُۥ فَـَٔازَرَهُۥ فَٱسْتَغْلَظَ فَٱسْتَوَىٰ عَلَىٰ سُوقِهِۦ يُعْجِبُ ٱلزُّرَّاعَ لِيَغِيظَ بِهِمُ ٱلْكُفَّارَۗ وَعَدَ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَعَمِلُوا۟ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ مِنْهُم مَّغْفِرَةً وَأَجْرًا عَظِيمًۢا
English - Sahih International
Muḥammad is the Messenger of Allāh; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allāh and [His] pleasure. Their sign is in their faces from the effect of prostration [i.e., prayer]. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that He [i.e., Allāh] may enrage by them[1] the disbelievers. Allāh has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.
An-Nisa' 4:102
وَإِذَا كُنتَ فِيهِمْ فَأَقَمْتَ لَهُمُ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ فَلْتَقُمْ طَآئِفَةٌ مِّنْهُم مَّعَكَ وَلْيَأْخُذُوٓا۟ أَسْلِحَتَهُمْ فَإِذَا سَجَدُوا۟ فَلْيَكُونُوا۟ مِن وَرَآئِكُمْ وَلْتَأْتِ طَآئِفَةٌ أُخْرَىٰ لَمْ يُصَلُّوا۟ فَلْيُصَلُّوا۟ مَعَكَ وَلْيَأْخُذُوا۟ حِذْرَهُمْ وَأَسْلِحَتَهُمْۗ وَدَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ لَوْ تَغْفُلُونَ عَنْ أَسْلِحَتِكُمْ وَأَمْتِعَتِكُمْ فَيَمِيلُونَ عَلَيْكُم مَّيْلَةً وَٰحِدَةًۚ وَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ إِن كَانَ بِكُمْ أَذًى مِّن مَّطَرٍ أَوْ كُنتُم مَّرْضَىٰٓ أَن تَضَعُوٓا۟ أَسْلِحَتَكُمْۖ وَخُذُوا۟ حِذْرَكُمْۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ أَعَدَّ لِلْكَٰفِرِينَ عَذَابًا مُّهِينًا
English - Sahih International
And when you [i.e., the commander of an army] are among them and lead them in prayer,[1] let a group of them stand [in prayer] with you and let them carry their arms. And when they have prostrated, let them be [in position] behind you and have the other group come forward which has not [yet] prayed and let them pray with you, taking precaution and carrying their arms. Those who disbelieve wish that you would neglect your weapons and your baggage so they could come down upon you in one [single] attack. But there is no blame upon you, if you are troubled by rain or are ill, for putting down your arms, but take precaution. Indeed, Allāh has prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment.
Of course people who don't read Quran will never see these ayat proving Salat is a ritual.
@@thebeesnuts777don't act like your some Arabic master. You clearly can't recognize mutashābihāt ayat from clear ones . Your just a heretic kl
The Quran is supposedly eternal or at least created by God himself, so it gets a pass.
What I really don't understand is that how billions of Muslims around the world can go about their lives not questioning the Hadith at all. It's pretty much agreed upon by everybody that the Hadith is not the work of God AND was written by people from collecting people's testimonies. That's a huge, huge red flag. Have they never questioned the validity of the chain?
The Gospels are presented as different versions of the same story from different sources. It is presented in that way precisely because people understood that people's memory could be faulty. The Gospels just coincidentally more or less coincided and reached consensus.
The Gospels are presented as primary sources for people to judge on their own on how to make of them. The Hadith on the other hand was curated to present whoever collected them or is presenting them to reflect on what they deemed to have been legitimate events.
They won’t question the Hadiiths because that’s where the entire organised religion comes from.
There’s no mosque 🕌 no hijab 🧕 no rituals no fasting nothing!
Nothing arbitrary to recognise “Muslims” by.
The Quran is just a book of universal principles hence why we conclude it’s from God.
The universal principles could be followed by anyone so to distinguish Muslims and turn them into an organised religion with clerics n all the rest of it.... they gave them these narrations. Sad.
Every time God sends a reminder this is what people do.
People created stuff after Moses ( the Talmud ) Jesus ( letters of Paul ) and now Muhammad ( Hadiiths ) it’s the same old story.
@@TheQuranExplainsItself Excuse me? Fasting in Ramadan was directly mentioned in Quran. 2:185, Also mosques 2:114
@@monamalek2 neither mean those translations.
Think about it....what’s the coming down of the Quran got to do with fasting?
What context leads you to believe Masjid is a mosque?
Because hadiths were already incredibly questioned and tested. Most hadiths are not being questioned now because like I said, masters of hadith collection went to unimaginable, really impressive lengths to collect and question and grade these hadiths. It's not like they were accepted without questioning, on the contrary the Usul-al-Hadith, which is the method of compiling and grading hadiths is still really impressive as Western cultures at the time and until MUCH LATER times didn't have anything remotely similar to that scholarly practice.
Hadith is the source of terrorism.
Assalamuwalaikum Filip,
Thank you for your good work - I looked at many of your videos and was intrigued especially since was in agreement with most of your summarization.
I was wondering as to why you don’t have a video on Abdul Qadir Jilani. So that is my first request.
My second request is the influence of the Sultan al Awliya upon the Sheikh al Akbar (Ibn Arabi) if/or conversely.
My third request is the basis of the Isra Miraj from a Quranist and/or Ahle Hadith perspective - because it can have a fundamental impact on the scope of the teachings from this event.
I sincerely hope you may be given the patience to continue your work.
Walaikum Assalam wr, wb.
that is the true islam
MAY ALLAH SUBHANAHU WA TAALA BLESS YOU MY QURANIST BROTHERS AND SISTERS
And may Allah bless you too if you accept all of the revelations of Allah, including the second commandment given to Moses which prohibits prostrating to the Kaaba like most "quranists" seem to be doing. You see quranists don't really seem to accept the previous scriptures when we should appreciate and believe in them too. Read verse 4:136 of the Quran, for example. That being said, I agree that the later hadiths that the secterians follow should be disregarded. The revelations of Allah is enough.
Allah bless you
Don't say quranist, say muslim. Allah warned us about dividing.
We are not Quranist, we are just Muslims.
@@aslm5373 Salam akhi.
I take the Quran alone stance also, i wonder what we can accept tbh from what the sects claim are the "Taurat" and "Injeel".
Because those are hadiths after all.
And some clearly contradict the Quran.
But i suppose you could scan them through the Quran to clean them from filth.
The Quran also mentions the scrolls of Abraham... where are those? I saw a brother claim it's in the Quran and it made sense to an extent, very interesting topic.
About the Kaaba, something to investigate, i must admit it is kinda odd tbh, but i fear criticising something Allah subhana wa taala might have ordained, perhaps not in the form they do it now but just to be around the house/temple and praise God and form community there.
Peace
One of the best books to read on the subject is : "The Quran , Morality and Critical Reason" by The Late Mohamed Shahrour ,Translated by : Andreas Christmann.
Shahrur is at the moment the most innovative intellectual thinker in the Arab Middle East. Often described as the ‘Martin Luther of Islam,’ he offers a liberal, progressive reading of Islam that aims to counter the influences of religious fundamentalism and radical politics. Shahrur’s innovative interpretation of the Qur’an offers groundbreaking new ideas, based on his conviction that centuries of historical Islam, including scholarship in the traditional Islamic religious sciences, have obscured or even obliterated the Qur’an’s progressive and revolutionary message. That message is one that has endured through each period of human history in which Islam has existed, encouraging Muslims to apply the most contemporary perspective available to interpret the Qur’an’s meaning.
Blessed
Thank you for the recommendation!
im muslim whole my life and never heard Quranists before.........my local Mosque dead no teaching going on at all,,,,,,fighting each other........i have learned a lot here.......thank you man
I was Sunni for 40 years always studying and trying to learn more, never satisfied. However in my first 2 months of quranism, I was 100% satisfied. Quransmessage.com has many very good articles, start with the ones on hadith and basics. The Quran is mubeen-clear but the Scholars will tell you you cant read it by yourself, and you need tafsir to brainwash you, tafseer are just human interpretations, not history.
@D Man speakers corner videos are all like m.hijab finding very low spoken basic quranists and just yelling at them. It's pathetic.
@More Ferarum we today can decipher hieroglyphs and sumerian cuneiform tablets to pretty amazing legible accuracy. The Quran is similar, yet we have far more in terms of clues and hints. Including ancient Arabic poetry, lexicons, current Arabic dialects. There are no hadith that explicitly define quranic words. Like " hey guys, this verse/word means this", if there are they can be proven as questionable at best, because many hadith are illogical in their attempts to explain the Quran, and can be proven as fabrications, by other verses that totally dont reflect that idea. For example there is the story of khidr, all Sunnis "believe this" but looking back on it, he khidr could not be an immortal human, it's a myth. The personality who accompanied moses was probably an angel, based on language used with the visitors of Lot and Abraham.
The channel Qurancentric has his a good system, check it out:
th-cam.com/video/9Cm-utvQXnc/w-d-xo.html
@More Ferarum yup, the Quran does leave out alot of trivialities, that we humanoids refer to as details. However the Quran is mubeen and fussilat, clear and detailed. This is not a conundrum. We think the location of Noah's ark or the burning Bush are details we need. Dates, places, even many names are left out, these are trivialities, not fine details that apply to eternal salvation. The Quran is not an encyclopedia, it is a spiritual guide, in the socio cultural context of 600ad Arabia. The Persian authors of hadith had their ideas mechanisms to understand the Quran in THEIR context.
@More Ferarum you're saying not much will be left without hadith. That is right and that is good and simple.
There is a list of commandments in the Quran, i have to find it again, none of them were rituals found in hadith. They were all about being good and not lying, and peaceful and sound and helpful to the weak poor, disabled, orphans, single mothers, avoiding war, like over 30 of these with verse references. The hadithists ignore all of them, they pursue rituals and oppose many ayah in the process. Mostly because they dont even understand the words they "pray" That cant be the intention the Quran. The Quran is meant to be learnt, not ritualistically recited like a magical incantation.
Excellent work brother 👍
Thx for informations never heard this b4
I suppose this is a similar division to that in Christianity between Tradition & Scripture vs 'sola scriptura'
Are the same stupidity by humans... nothing else! There are more proof of this : th-cam.com/video/ShaWeLvFjwk/w-d-xo.html
Yep, just like the protestant schism. Religion is such a waste of brain power
Yes and just like protestantism, quranism is a complete anachronistic understanding of the holy scriptures
Those who believe in Qur'an alone are called Muslims, not Quranists.
Hadith?
Exactly my point. I don't know why we are labeled.
To be a muslim you must say the sahada
"I believe in one god Mohammed is his prophet"
"اشهد ان لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله"
And What did Mohammed say?
Follow The Hadith
(he didn't say that but you got the point "
Quranetist are fake
They are called Quranetist
Not Muslims
(I spelled it wrong i know)
@@imcloud305 no shit
@@imcloud305 thats the real proof of being a muslim from the quran. Nothing to do with your sunni shahada
Quran: 2:136
Say: “We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us, and in what has been revealed to Ibrāhīm, Ismā‘īl (Ishmael), IsHāq (Isaac), Ya‘qūb and his children, and in what has been given to Mūsā and ‘Īsā (Jesus) and what has been given to the prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between any of them, and to Him we submit ourselves.”
If you add muhammad rasullallah in your shahada, you just made a difference between the messengers.
And the true shahada is la ilaha ilallah. Thats what the angels and the possessors of understanding say. We do not add mohammad rassulallah to the shahada. The shahada is for God only.
The Qua'ran as the only source of revelation seems similar to what the Protestant churches think regarding the Bible, in comparison with the traditional Catholic and Orthodox Canon
I'd say ; it seems rather similar to " American Evangelicalism " than the protestants such as Lutherans or Anglicanism who are open to the idea that not always can the Bible be taken literary .
@@justusscepticushumanus4848 yes, specifically you might be right
@@mfvieira89 "The Qua'ran as the only source of revelation seems similar to what the Protestant churches think regarding the Bible"
That statement is wrong and misleading.
@@MrBebaslepas If so, then explain why
@@mfvieira89 The status of the Qur'an itself as a revelation, which is in a form of verbatim words of God, is incomparable to the Bible. Another revelations revealed to Prophet Muhammad which are not included in the Qur'an can be found in Hadith Qudsi.
I find it very interesting that in almost every religion, there becomes a group that base Law, and social Tradition on the exact wording of the highest holy book.
As it should be, we should only listen to the almighty, not words from man.
@@keeshans5768 Thank you!
@@keeshans5768 I'm a Sunni. But I'm just now finding out about Quranism. I'm definitely gonna be researching more
@@LORDJOSEPH12 Me too!
@@LORDJOSEPH12 how did it go?
@Let's Talk Religion Do you have the list of sources you used for this video? Thanks!
Source is Qur'an
I believe in hadiths aslong as it does not contradict the Quran. Many Hadiths contradict the Quran but they allow it!
I also dont believe in any hadith that creates a law without a source from the Quran, like how some hadiths allow stoning of zina.
Can you make a video about Naskh, its a subject I dont know much about even as a Muslim, and I hate the argument used in Naskh.
That's an interesting subject! I'll add it to the list!
That makes the Hadiiths redundant. There’s no point for you to even claim it.
And Hadiths about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) knowing the future
Agree. But if the Hadith says don’t have anal sex, don’t eat animals with fangs or claws those are fine.
@@jjaznawi prophet Mohammed was commanded to say by Allah " I know nothing about what will become of me or you " I am paraphrasing but he did not know the future , what use is telling someone the future to get someone to believe in you from an event that will happen 1000years later ? How could that man believe that prophecy when he is dead ? Also , Allah only commanded Mohammed to deliver the Quran and recite from it ,nothing else that's also from a verse but sorry I dont know the one
Very excellent video! Regarding the problem of the hadith and rituals, many Quranists believe that it is not a problem to follow the hadith if it does not conflict with the Quran. Therefore, most rituals do not conflict with the Quran. What do conflict with the Quran in the Quranists belief are some more important aspects than just rituals.
We are not suppose to follow any hadith whether they are good or not, bcus Allah strictly told us to follow his Quran, as he left nothing out of it:
[Quran 6:38] All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book.** To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.
@@syarifmirza1195 kafir
@@coffe2270 Following Quran only makes you a true believer :P
I had known one group in Lahore in the 1990s. They did not call themselves the Quranists, but they were sceptical of Hadith and critical of the Imams.
They believed that the Quran provided all the guidance and information, including the performance of Salat, etc.
If one only gets the instruction for salat from qur'an alone, it will greatly confuse them when they found out in one passage that Allah instructed Muhammad to pray in three times of the day (instead of 5). The hadith, while ripe with so many contradictions and possible accidental modifications, helps to contextualize those "confusing" passages.
are u talking about ghulam ahmed pervez?
@@AfrahFatima214 No. Their views bore similarity to the group described here as the Quranists. They did not call themselves that.
@@thegrunbeld6876 Actually, they did pray two or three times a day.
@@thegrunbeld6876 so you're saying Quran mentions 3 daily prayers but you ignore what the Quran says and overrule it for the hadith?
There are times when I cannot listen to someone even if their material is good as I am very sensitive to the voice.
Not only is your content excellent but the tone of your voice is very pleasant to listen to
Excellent quality work
If you don't mind me asking what do you think of Reforming islam sincerely from a muslim
If you want others to respect your religion then you should do the same for others
@@theguyver4934 Tell that to Christians too please
Disrespect comes from individuals
so you have no reason to make that statement to me as I have not said anything disrespectful about another religion
@@theguyver4934
Some Individual Muslims need reform as do people from other religions
and I consider a great deal of issue is from cultures
Especially when Muslims do not know the difference between what is dictated by their culture and they think and state it is according to Islam. They are not educated about their own religion and then pass on this to non Muslims as if it is factual
@@inaaranur1611 - No offense but yes you do
I pray that God who is All-Wise and All-Knowing will continue to guide your efforts. We need much more investigation and reflection regarding the Word of God. Reading the Hadith I have found far too much interpretation and waaay too much positing by individuals who profess to know God's Will and God's intentions. Dangerous stuff, that.
The same conclusion i came to as a german "christian" who started reading into Islam, there may be truth in them but the most dangerous lie is the one mixed with truth, we can't know for certain. May God/Allah guide us unto righteousness and forgive us our weaknesses.
*Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*
That’s why you study the Hadith and the Quran under the guidance ship of a qualified Scholar . Allah mentions in His book "Then ask those who possess the Message (ahl adh-dhikr) if you do not know." (Al-Qu'ran 21:7 and 16:43) the people who read on there own come out either extremist or confused Because every syllable of the Quran has a context and to understand it you MUST refer back to the Hadith, it is IMPOSSIBLE to understand the Quran without the Hadith of the messenger ﷺ . You can’t even understand Shakespeare’s works without a teacher how do you attempt to understand the book of the the creator without a guide.
@@Shafiqulislam786 Agreed. What I fear are those who represent themselves as definitive authorities. IMHO fellow Human Beings can offer opinions. The Hadiths can be problematic. It is an article of my Faith that Allah (swt) is active in my life and answers can be had if only I ask. FWIW.
@@brucesims3228 when Allah عزوجل intends to guide or benefit someone, he directs them towards his righteous and guided people .
So this is what happens when Islam goes Sola Scriptura.
@Timothy McCaskey ditto. The Latin nomenclature given connotes ignobility or rebellion I feel, is there a historical Roman context on that? Nevertheless I have not felt better after accepting this logical ideology and started linguistically getting into the Quran and finding how different it is from the traditional interpretations, many basic words have been misconstrued through history to the point where the modern lexicon has adapted to these misinterpretations.
LOL!!!! I was thinking the same thing with my Catholic mind.
@@c5quared626 Totally agree.
Many words have had there true Arabic meaning distorted when translated. Examples that come to mind: Salat, Sajdah and Malaikha.
@@user-k229 those are staple words. many other words were used very sparingly. the persian scholarship who basically co opted the religion just guessed (by that time sahabas were killed off or died) then used fallacious hadith to back up theirs or their dad/teachers claims. Looking at the hadith today, it would be naive to accept them as canon. Most were obviously made up just to settle the argument of the current time.
The hadith recount the ministry of Mohammed, the Koran his revelation. Both are scripture. A comparison to the koranists would require a Christianity without the ministry of Christ. Which makes even less sense. The comparison with the vestigial practices of the Roman Church might better be found in the innovations and contrivances of the Muslim small sects, where tradition and novel belief have become part of the belief system, if indeed such crude comparison can ever be useful.
Please make video about history of all hadith and their authenticity. Now day it is a hot topic.
I do talk about it a bit in this video and in the video on Shariah, but I might dedicate a whole video to it! Thank you!
@Shoaib Sheikh + Learn English
@@LetsTalkReligioncan you make it please
Nice video, please also make a video on four schools of Jurisprudence in Sunni Islam (Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki, Hanbali)
😅😅It won't be that easy for someone just browsing the Internet only.
The holy quran was compiled completed during the prophet time. "Bal huwalquranul majid fi lahwil mahfuudh".
No kind quran exist
Lawhil mahfud is another thing
You're so shallow
Love your arabic pronunciation, it is consistent with other videos on islam i see from you.
also, that outro music is really nice, anyone know the name?
The music is from his own band called Zini, they have an instagram page
Great explanation! Excellent
Having studied alchemy throughout times and places, I see all religions as leading to the One, just different semantics and understandings of the One through the frame of reference of the time and place of the people's trying to explain it. Some religious texts are just a little better than others in explaining it. Considering myself Muslim would be much easier without some of the Hadith, but there are parts of the Hadith that resonate with me deeply. I submit to the will of the One, and I admire Muhammad for everything he sacrificed to help humanity. Peace be upon him.
Idjtihad = doing any good task ( in this case : studying a religious problem or any theological researches) activily and with a maximum dedication of time and energy and integrity
Quranists have told me their view is prophet Muhammad left the quran as a book already and they point out verses that the quran already calls itself a book and they say its the people who follow hadiths that say the quran was compiled later after Muhammad and that is what they wrote in their hadiths
What's your take on the differences/similarities of Quranism with the sola scriptura doctrine of Protestantism?
SS denoms still follow the Councils and begin services with the Nicean creed. This is more like if James & Peter had a pre-Pauline scripture. Maybe like the Sect of the Nazarenes. If we knew more about the Ebionites directly, perhaps them too tho less ascetic.
Very well described..........
Hi Filip,
I am curious to know the different interpretations of the Quranists for the repeated Quranic verse: Obey God and obey the Prophet. ( sometimes it is: Obey God and the Prophet)? The general interpretation Obey God = Quran. Obey the Prophet = Hadith. Are there various interpretations for different Quranists, if any?
Thank you for answering
Obey God = Quran Obey the Prophet = to obey hım while he is alive
@@Saidi_m I see. So basically Muslims should pray 3 times a day without following the method of praying of the prophet since Muslims are not obliged to follow the prophet's instructions after his death
@@karimmoudarres35 it could be, but the thing is that the Quran doesn't insist on an exact number. For me I'll follow the five times prayers that we have been passing generation after generation.
@@karimmoudarres35 You have to know that there is no saying of the prophet describe how many prayers or how to pray its all just kind of interpretation and reinterpretation by Muslim scholars, if you know Arabic I can show you some sources regarding it.
@@Saidi_m salaam,u just made that up.Rmemeber the companions of the prophet(SAW) still obeyed his(SAW) teachings after death
Excellent overview!
This is a thorough breakdown of the topic in a brief amount of time. Great job.
I remember clearly when I become more interested in Quran instead of hadith. It was when I was a kid, listening imam preaching in Friday prayer. I was very angry to and questioning God because I heard imam cite one hadith that mention about a person going to hell just because a simple mistake, that mistake is related to urinates. At that time I was just thinking, is it really worth for God punishing a man in hell just because that simple mistake? To me it doesn't make sense and He is not my God because my God is the most merciful most beneficent... Since then, I end up just believing Quran instead of what we call as hear say (hadith). Reading Quran as a pure human in your innocence age (as a kid) it was very influential and I am so happy I spent my younger years with that bless.. I am 42 y.o. now and so basically I am skeptical when someone cite a hadith which is baseless in Quranic teaching. However, if that hadith say something in Quran, I usually recognize it and listen to it. By the way, there's a bunch of non sense in Muslim today that is basically derived from hadith and not from Quran. However, when I say something and try to correct it, people got mad and judge me as I know nothing about this religion. Silly... But the most common question that I receive is the question like "how do you understand Quran if you don't accept hadith and you have no teacher?" To me, it is a fair question, but from my experience, the way i understand Quran is just like the story of Moses and his teacher. Moses can't be patience and always questioning his teacher. So, I actually don't know what Quran means in one ayah.. what I do is just try to remember it and be patience, and usually months after months or years, I finally get it. Indeed it is strange, but that's the way it is. I think the best Quranic interpretation that live today is Hassan Farhan al Maliki, his point of view is like crystal clear to me.
Thanks for sharing!
@@LetsTalkReligion uP
@Lube on my Tv technically speaking, those who have punished in the grave then he will receive punishment in hell. People believe in one ayah that says "they receive punishment twice...", which is considered as punishment in the grave and punishment in hereafter (hell).
@@gondala i thought that hadith was a documentary in a book format that explain the quran and the life of sahabah and muhammad (s.a.w) in more in depth kind of version ,
and i also know that the ahlul-kitab (the people of the book) like to twist word in the name of islam so iam also skeptical of hadiths.
I'm also Quran alone believer. One sunni pointed out a hadith that I felt was hateful and utterly stupid. That at the end days the Arabs will fight against Jews and trees will talk to the Arabs and say there a jew hiding behind a tree. So kill it 🥴🥴🥴
These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what „Hadith“ حَدِيثٍ after Allah and His verses will they believe? [Quran 45:06]
@Marcus Aurelius
Ok as a shi'i where is the concept of Hazrat Ali being successor of Prophet Muhammad (Salahu alayhi wasalam) in the Quran. Now that you can't use the Hadith's of Ghadeer e khum.
Also where are the 12 imams mentioned in the Quran. Now again you can't use the Hadith's of their being 12 imams to come, Jaber Ibn Samorah said I went to the Prophet (P) and I heard him saying: “Indeed this matter will not be completed until there will be 12 Caliphs amongst them.” He then added something softly that I did not hear, so I asked my father about it who said: The Prophet (P) said: “They are all from Qoraysh.” (Muslim, Hadith No. 1821, Book of leadership).
@Paco Abdulqader
It's says "statement " not Hadith's in the sense you lot are thinking of it
How do your scholars make tafsir of the Quran , like on the verse
"And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers." [2:192]
We know why this verse was revealed but how do you Quran only people know when using only Quran
@a stranger I wish it was that simple and we could all be Muslims, but cursing those who curse the Sahabah and those who honour them are not alike,
@a stranger
Being good and being on Haqq are two different topics. Bro it's a fundamental belief of the shi'i in the 12 divinely inspired Imams who hold a greater position than Prophets but the Prophet Muhammad Salahu alayhi wasalam and their imam Mahdi is hiding in a cave right now. Then the Quran only Muslims fail to understand the importance of the Prophets Salahu alayhi wasalam Sunnah and reject the Hadith's which they have not even studies the transmission for.
I see that you cover Islam a lot! Can you do a segment on Islam in West Africa and the Baye Fall in Senegal?
As I watch video after video on your channel, I wonder where did you get that many artworks depicting Muslim / Near-Eastern themes?
@Great Kafir I understand that. The question was rather about the actual source. Maybe he has a database, or he takes it from a book, or reference source...
Thanks for another great and informative!
More and more people should know the Quranist movement, and the whole contemporary reform movements within Islam.
Since the media always painted Islam in a monolithic manner, these kind video is much needed.
As I also consider myself a Quranist,
I wanted to add some nuance to the issue you've said about the 'problem' arise from the Quran-only approach.
First of all, the 'problem' must surely arise when we take the hadith and the whole traditionalist literature and its info out of the equation.
But the 'problem' is actually exist because the equation is view through the lens of traditional Islam.
If we embrace the Quran-only perspective entirely, there is no problem.
But, yes, in actuality there are still some problems left; but it is not the same problem.
For example - Ṣalah.
If we take the traditional elements away from ṣalah, but still cling onto the traditional perspective,
Question becomes: hwo can we establish the details of ṣalah from Quran alone?
But if we take the Quranist approach, we can follow details of the ṣalah that exist only within the Quran, and proceed as it is.
Also, the Quranist may examine further that the term ṣalah in the Quran, may denotes something other than a ritualistic prayer.
And then this is the point when more questions will rise.
May be some Quranists will conclude that the ṣalah may means any form of communion with God,
Or make connection to God, or to uphold the law and commandment, etc.
But that is the problem that exist and can be solve only within a Quran-only framework.
I hope this make sense to you.
Anyway, thanks again for spreading the knowledge.
Great points! Thanks for sharing! I think it's very interesting how people choose to interpret the Quranic teachings without reference to ahadith.
Not happening. Every single Sunni Muslim scholar in existence declares quranists as disbelievers, which they are. There's consensus in the matter.
If your Quranist explain Surah Al Fil ( the elephant) for me in YOUR interpretation please ??
Simple question. How do you do Ruku and Sujood in the Quran? The Prophet (SAW) warned us of you. Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal (RA) said: "A man who rejects a hadith (which is authentic) is on the verge of doom".
@@aroncopeland6381 Sectarians don't get to tell people what others' faith is, no matter how many people within their sect may listen to them. There's no power of consensus of others that can take from someone their faith, no matter what power-hungry authorities or their groomed-to-be-narrow-minded flock think or want. Besides, Sunnis are not the only Muslims, anyway
Please do a video on the Sunni fiqhs and how they differ from each other
Could you do a video on the Ba 'Alawiyya tariqa?
Anyone can tell me pls how loud or soft should be while saying salaat? Like, how many decibels?
J/k. Thinking of the red heifer endless quest for minutae as in Surah Baqara 67.
No more than 185 dB 😁
Nice you understood those verses like me. Its like a refutation God gave to people who always ask stupid questions like how do you pray, how do you fast, bla bla bla. God gave the perfect exemple with those verses. God always give a simple commendment, then people ask stupid questions and they just make the religion way more harder then God intended it to be. God knows more.
Imam Maliks Al Muwatta is a book of Hadith's to an extent and is also authentic. He lived literally a generation after the Sahabah. In Medina where over 20,000 Sahabah had passed away.
You’re talking to the modem jahils. They conveniently ignore the isnad system and keep talking about when hadith books were written on paper. They forget the Quran has also been passed on mainly orally until Abu Bakr RA decided to have it written down
@@dlhussain81 Lol honestly, how stupid can they get? It seems to reach as high as the Qadianis and Rafidah.
@@dlhussain81 Historians has it that the Prophet used to have the revelations written on different materials as they came down onto him and later Abu Bakr had Zaid ibn Thabith gather those materials. That's unlike hadiths.
@@abdulbasit-cn9ek correct. Hadith was never written down during the life of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم only Quran to avoid any confusion between the two.
@@dlhussain81
I was responding to your claim that Quran reached abu bakr mainly by oral recitation.
I became quranist lately and because the Quran encourage you to think for yourself and always criticize the following of others without thinking so the way selfi teach is the opposite of what Quran teach in this regard.
But the Quran itself tells you to follow the prophet (SAW). Yes, the Quran teaches you to think, and encourages you to think. BUT it doesn't tell you to "reject the hadith". There are verses telling you to follow your prophet. Now, another thing is, even if you think only logically, you'll still find that all the hadith are morally and intellectually correct, and logically you should follow them
@@wahhajmustafa1907 the problem with hadith its not 100% accurate. i believe in hadith mutaowater only but you can't confess me that we should decide someone live and judging him based on hadith there's 3% chance of it being not true.
Just Me the sahih hadith and the Hasan Hadith are 100% true. We most certainly don’t judge using the weaker Hadith, we only judge based on the authentic ones. Now, if you wanna say even the Saheeh Hadith have a tiny percentage of not being true, you could apply the same logic, since the Quran too, was compiled long after the death of our prophet Muhammad (SAW)
And even if there is a chance of something having a 3% chance of it not being true, let’s suppose. That doesn’t mean we’re gonna reject the 97% chance of it being true. This way, you’ll have to start doubting everything. Every time someone tells you something, let’s suppose you ask your father or mother if they’re your real parents. And they reply that yes, we’re your real parents. They have legal documents, your birth certificate, even confirmation from the government etc. BUT there’s a 1% chance that it’s all a lie, and that your “parents” are just conspiring with the government, and are hiding your real identity. You could apply the same thing with ever single one of your friends. Each one could be a government agent spying on you, pretending to be a friend. See? The world starts to become more and more unsteady right? Soon you’ll be doubting if the world even is real and so on. Therefore, the logic that we shouldn’t judge someone on something that supposedly has a “3% chance of being not true”, doesn’t work
@@wahhajmustafa1907 so tell me why there's two levels sahih and hasan?? that mean they have different accuracy which means one is more accurate then the other thereof one is less accurate there is no way for both of them to be 100% true
the other thing if you want to believe in any hadith you're free to do that but don't but someone fate and judges his live based on hadith ( for example stoning a man or a waman who committed Adultery to death based on not very accurate hadith)
(or killing gay men based on what?? i can't remember any Quran phrase or even any hadith anywhere that tell us we should kill gays)
As-salamalaikum ahki your dawah and the information you give is excellent as I’m also a student of Islam but I also study comparative religion .Bravo
lol
What did Allah (2:223) mean by the statement "your wives are a place of sowing of seed for you, so come to your place of cultivation however you wish and put forth for yourselves"?
Its saying there is no restriction when it comes to how you become intimate with your wife, except of course the obvious sins of sodomy and anal sex which were mentioned extensively in the Quran. The rulings on how you become intimate are extremely loose so that it’s easy for us
@@afcwimbledon2896 Sodomy/anal is not mentioned at all, you're making this prohibition up.
Adeel Ahmed This is you following your own desires and the people of Lot were committing sodomy. Go ahead and be a sodomite if you’d like.
نِساؤُكُم حَرثٌ لَكُم فَأتوا حَرثَكُم أَنّىٰ شِئتُم ۖ وَقَدِّموا لِأَنفُسِكُم ۚ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَاعلَموا أَنَّكُم مُلٰقوهُ ۗ وَبَشِّرِ المُؤمِنينَ
223. Your women are the bearers of your seed. Thus, you may enjoy this privilege however you like, so long as you maintain righteousness. You shall observe GOD, and know that you will meet Him. Give good news to the believers.
The holy god .. the ultimate being told us in his book ..the last book that we (men the superior sex ofc) can fuck "our" women in any sex position WE (men ) want
And in hadith they said the verset was sent to mohamed directly because at that time some womeen didn't like some sex positions that men wanted , so god told men to fuck their women the way they wanted 😁
Before watching this, my first thought is _Sola Scriptura_ instead of the Roman Catholic "Scripture plus apostolic tradition".
2:18 I was right... :)
7:02 This *is* Islamic _Sola Scriptura._
In the Xtian denoms tho, SS still follow the Councils eg the Nicean Creed is recited at the beginning of Lutheran services. If you could get a scripture from James and Peter pre-Paul (ie the originals) you'd be on to something.
Living in united kingdom as a muslim I donot see any problem in practicing muslim religion and at the same time conforming to the law of land.
The modern Govts like uk are capable of defending the rights of individuals from cradle to grave. The law of the land including the justice system is very complex that's why it can take care of demands of modern complex issues.
So why the same justice system as in uk cannot be duplicated in a Muslim country .
I am a Quranist. It is a relatively simple religion that relies on personal interpretations.
What a great explanation! Keep up the good work!
Sounds a lot to me like the Catholic-Protestand divide on the apocrypha and church tradition
Of course this is different , but it has parallels
Very well explained. Marvelous work.
The traditional Quranist position has been based on questioning the *authenticity* of Hadith (e.g., the Tawfiq Sidqi quote in the video). Much of the 21st Quranist movement can trace its roots to Rashad Khalifa, who first made the argument questioning the *authority* of Hadith, based on the verses of the Quran itself. The verses that most contemporary Quranists frequently cite (including comment section here) to dispute the authority of Hadith come from "Quran, Hadith and Islam" published by Rashad Khalifa in 1982. Although many Quranists do not directly attribute this to Rashad, and reject some of his positions like messengership and the 19-based mathemetical structure in the Quran, the arguments he made in his work QHI are their most frequent source.
I was wondering, because he has valid points, but i saw a video of his and later knew it was after his big claims, and he looked bad in my opinion, like arrogant and in general darkness in his face as they say (God knows best tbh), i didn't give it more attention, but later came to realize the Quran alone stance made sense, i revisited this topic, but being real i did test him, and i found false prophecies he made, like the king of Saudi one and the half prophecy on the smoke and 1990... and also they say he added to the Nun case to make it match the 19 code. (the 19 code is there, just like the 7 code and other numerical codes are, but he couldn't prove his claim which was that the 19 code was general and the function he claimed it provided)
Believe in him or not.
I think the Quran makes it clear that messengers can go astray (like Yunus alaihi salam), perhaps that's what happened, but Allah subhana wa taala knows best.
Peace
Very informative 👍👍
Thank you for the detailed explanation. Much appreciate it. I had to ditch a long time girl friend because she was wacked-out extremist Hadithest. Come to find out she knew nothing about the Quran but claimed she was a Muslim....same with most of her family as well. And the weirdest thing was that "Shame" seemed to be the currency of her faith. She did things based upon whether it would have any shame associated with it or should I say she did weird things and then would hide in shame from her actions....which by the way to me, were not shameful in any manner. Not that other faith systems are perfect, but her version of Islam is majorly Fudged-Up. Of course I do wish her the best, but she is her own worst enemy.
About Hassan Farhan Al-Maliki, i don't think he consider himself to be a pure Quranist, but in a sense yes he consider Quran to be supreme to Ahadiths, for example, his theories about how majority of early muslims were in fact hypocrites is derived from Quran and he consider that the abondonance of stories from ahadith, but not just the ones attributed to the prophet but also from his companions (and unlike the traditionalist sunnis who consider most companions to be infallible even tho theorically they don't but they practically treat them as saints )
those stories and naration have distored the original message of the Quran, so yes in this sense he argues same as Quranists
but one distinction is that he don't throw all tradition out of the window, like extreme Quranists, he accept ahadiths that follow and agree with Quran
"consider most companions to be infallible"
Yes, because 99% Muslims are only told what happened during prophet PBUH's life. The not so glorious history of 1st and 2nd fitna is completely ignored and history starts again at the end of 3rd fitna When Imam Hussain RA was assassinated. Apart from the messangers, everyone is fallible, make mistakes so you learn the difference between good and bad, that's the whole point IMO.
I don't know if this is a greater movement under a different name or just a weird quirk of my grandma's Appalachian Non-Denominational Church (if you are not familiar, these are rural churches that, basically, have no doctrinal tie to any denomination and are often a weird mishmash of Christian theologies). She called the church a "Jesus Only" church, meaning that they ONLY regarded the New Testament as true and accurate, with a focus on the 4 Gospels. I'm an atheist, so most of my knowledge of religion is academic not "boots on the ground" so I don't know if that is a larger movement, but if so, that would be very interesting.
It could be the Protestantism the Muslim world needs.
"Appalachian non denominational Church" gives me an image of speaking in tongues and handling venomous snakes
@@lakulo27 speaking in tongues definitely happened there the few times I went with her, but they were definitely not snake handlers... HOWEVER because of the nature of the thing, some of those types of church are
Isnt the old testament Jewish? 🤔
@@jasonGamesMaster Tbh, it's kinda funny after reading the Quran and some of the gospels.
Since some of the gospels resemble hadiths so much, on how they contradict each other and whatnot.
Or how Jesus peace be upon him is a demigod kind of figure in John (let's not talk about Revelation) but not so much on earlier gospels...
I see the comparison, but they are not the same at all, and as some said, this resembles Protestantism more in general. (Salutation to any Unitarian Christians reading)
Peace
What's the name of the song that play at the end of the video? I wanna listen to its full version.
Subbed! What song or essemble is playing in the end?
As someone who's always very skeptic about any "ism", i feel Qur'an only Muslims or Qur'an only Islam is a fairer and less partial definition.
Well this is interesting, Al-Qur'an, though it may not explain in depth on some subjects, is the very basic foundation of islam, and the fact it's being memorized by some muslim and written in only one language help to keep the foundation the same no matter when it is, the hadith however is something that prophet Muhammad said or act, which unfortunately would be interpreted differently and understood differently depending on the person so it would be reasonable there's some doubt on that, however choosing to fully ignore the hadith and think that it's out of time is not entirely a good thing to do either.
Take everything into moderation, and if you did question some stuff from the hadith discuss it with someone else before you make the choice, preferably someone that you're sure have more knowledge on the subject or at least of the same faith.
1. God characterised the Quran as the perfect book and said that it is made easy to understand. Not my words.
2. Muslims who don't believe in the Hadith have the primary issue stemming from the idea that it's not divine and it is problematic to include it in a part of the OBLIGATORY belief system.
Moses came with the Torah, what happened couple hundred years later? it was corrupted with the Talmud
Jesus came with the Gospel, what happened couple hundred years later? it was corrupted with the Bible
Muhammed came with the Quran. what happened couple hundred years later? Hadiths were created which corrupted the religion of Islam, the only difference is the Quran remains INTACT.
Doesn't the Quran say it's fully detailed?
As a german who grew up as a catholic christian, who called the Trinity into doubt, started reading up on the arian thought, how the Apostle Letters and Church traditions deranged the original thought of christianity and added their own cultural additions, i have come to the conclusion by now that i view mainstream Islam and their hadith and certain cultural things, in the same way, there is so many nonsensical things in there, even things that go against the Quran, i came across some that really irritated me and started researching more into the matter because i had some genuine moments where i called it all into doubt, i do think Hadith nearly pushed me away from Islam. I got a completely different view of the religion once i decided that they are not on the same level of revelation as many mainstream Muslims like to paint them. Peace be to you!
Great video.