Who are the Quranists?

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  • There is talk within the Muslim community (and outside) of the so-called "Quranists" or the movement "Quranism". In this video I talk about, in very generalizing terms, what this term is referring to, and what its characteristics are.
    #Quranism #Islam #Hadith

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  • @David_T
    @David_T 3 ปีที่แล้ว +555

    This bears similarities to the Karaite sect within Judaism. The Karaites reject the Talmud as a legal document and believe that only the Torah (5 books of Moses) should be used for Jewish law.

    • @ibraheemmoosa
      @ibraheemmoosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Maybe it is also similar to Protestantism's emphasis on Bible.

    • @David_T
      @David_T 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ibraheemmoosa Good Point.

    • @jbkjbk1999
      @jbkjbk1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@ibraheemmoosa Christianity doesn't really (as far as i know) have a body of text comparable to the hadith, though. All Christians would claim to primarily use the Bible.

    • @alangervasis
      @alangervasis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@jbkjbk1999 There is a group of texts called traditions of the early church followed by Catholic and Eastern orthodox churches like Magesterium.

    • @abdillahijalalkhan2128
      @abdillahijalalkhan2128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And they are right.
      The Original,and
      Authentic TORAH,
      in the Tongue of
      MOSES should be
      the only legal source of Judaic Jurisprudence as
      it is accepted as
      the word of God.
      The Talmud on the
      the other hand was
      compiled by Jewish
      Scholars while they
      were in captivity in
      Babylon and has no
      authority for being the
      word or God or of
      any of His Prophets.
      The Talmud cannot
      therefore be
      compared to the
      Hadiyths of the
      Prophet as those which are
      genuine and based on
      the authentic words
      and deeds of the
      PROPHET are an
      inseparable part of
      the Islamic
      Religion.
      The QUR'AAN states that any
      one who attempts to
      isolate the Prophet from ALLAAWH ,and
      chooses what
      injuction of the
      PROPHET to follow
      or discard according to his owb whim, is
      an unbeliever.
      The QUR'AAN states that the
      PROPHET does not
      speak out of his
      whim but from the
      inspiration of ALLAAH.
      The QUR'AAN states
      that the believers would
      find in the PROPHET
      the best example
      to imitate.
      The QUR'AAN has
      recorded that
      MUHAMMAD is
      ABOVE excellency
      in his Character.
      And the PROPHET has warned anyone
      who deliberately plants falsehood in
      his words or deeds,
      should prepare himself for an
      everlasting life in
      HELL. This means
      even those who
      deliberately or
      otherwise claim that an authentic Hadiyth is false would fall in this trap.
      So those who
      claim to reject ALL
      Hadiyth and Sunnah
      of the PROPHET are
      wrong as the
      PROPHET was the
      SUNNAH to follow
      and those among
      he lived were
      privileged to
      watch his actions
      and hear his words,
      follow them and pass
      through generation
      to generation that
      we too can
      participate and
      love his PERFECT
      life.
      AISHAH, the
      only wife who lived
      with the PROPHET since her
      maidenhood till his
      death, and of whom
      the PROPHET
      recommended his
      Disciples to learn
      the Religion of
      ISLAAM from, when
      asked about the
      Character of
      MUHAMMAD,replied
      " The same as the
      QUR'AAN."
      MUHAMMAD LIVED
      AND PERSONIFIED
      THE QUR'AAN IN
      MOTION AND
      SPEECH.

  • @nikhilmakwana9522
    @nikhilmakwana9522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Love your work. As a non-believer, I find joy and fulfillment of my curiosity by pursuing the knowledge of religion. Thanks to your videos, I get to learn about the nuances of many religions, including Islam.

    • @shadygaming6523
      @shadygaming6523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      can we have a discussion?

    • @chompythebeast
      @chompythebeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@shadygaming6523 Religious proselytizers: Academic forums are _far_ from the place

    • @Hannestv4607
      @Hannestv4607 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!*
      Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!!
      Philippians 2:5-8

    • @nikhilmakwana9522
      @nikhilmakwana9522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shadygaming6523 I'm a little late XD, but sure

    • @TwilightDawn193
      @TwilightDawn193 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, you can't. Glory be to ash-Shaytan and al-Masih ad-Dajjal! He'll come soon! @@shadygaming6523

  • @ahanadiri5330
    @ahanadiri5330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    What a logical and wonderfully educational way to give insight into basic questions that we all have. Love it

    • @intrue5021
      @intrue5021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      logical? educational? no, there are too errors in this little book that humans call great : th-cam.com/video/ShaWeLvFjwk/w-d-xo.html

  • @Lawson855
    @Lawson855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Thank you for this educational piece. Keep up the excellent work! 🇨🇦

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thank you!

    • @ibrahimkbrov4288
      @ibrahimkbrov4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*

  • @Rynewulf
    @Rynewulf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    When I was studying Religious Philosophy, one of the points about Islam that came up was the historic context. The Hadiths likely were recorded later precisely because they aren't part of the Qur'an and most likely were a way for Arab, Levantine and Persian people's of the early Caliphates to keep old cultural norms in a form adapted to Islam. Personally I think the Quranists have a major point because of this, the Hadiths say some less than savoury things to modern ears but that aren't necessarily inherent to Islam as a religion

    • @adnannunow58
      @adnannunow58 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The hadiths were in real time. They are interactions, conversations, events and situations that the prophet Muhammad was involved in. And the people who are experiencing it first hand are the people recording them. It’s true that a true written compilation was done after the death of the prophet (saw) by his companions who were with him during his life.

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@adnannunow58 My point is, is that the Hadiths are separated from the Quran itself. Their very concept is that years after the Prophets death, religious leaders of the time long after the Prophet himself recorded the addendums they thought ought to go alongside the Quran.
      I say this gives the Quranists a point, because if the Quran is the word of the divine as transcribed by Muhammed with the help of a messenger angel and is meant to be THE letter of the holy law, it doesn't make much sense to make an additional separate book and pretend that it has the same authority.
      Unless of course the caliphs, imams, emirs and sultans and so forth get a lot out of the Hadiths and making them the focus instead of the Quran

    • @adnannunow58
      @adnannunow58 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Rynewulf you got it all wrong. There was nothing like long after the prophet death. The Quran and the Hadith were being compiled both at the same time. There is an important pillar in Islam which is praying. No Muslim is a Muslim unless he prays. The Quran only talks about prayer and not how to pray. In the Hadith the prophet (saw) teaches us how to pray and the way to pray. They compliment each other . You wouldn’t understand somethings in the Quran without Hadith. The quranists are a new thing. No Muslim can separate the Quran and Hadith it has never been done beofre. It’s an innovation. So I urge you to do more research on why Hadith is important. Us Muslims can’t pick and chose want. The Quran even directs us to follow the teachings of the prophet. Do more research please.

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@adnannunow58 The Quranists had followers in the middle ages though? And Islam has many sects and varieties? Sunni vs Shia, the Sufis, competing schools of religious law courts, all the local sage veneration in north africa, the even more modern reactionaries from Saudi who are more recent than the revived Quranist movement?
      There are big practical differences across the Islamic world, including through time. Some of the earliest mosques dont have the same core features as later ones. Islamic art through the ages shows radically different styles of religiously acceptable dress through time and places.
      Im not saying any of this as a criticism of Islam btw, I find it interesting, but I think its quite fundamentalist to insist that differences that have always been there just arent and should be ignored.
      Its a valid point to point out I probably havent caught on to WHY Muslims have for a long long time felt the Hadiths as necessary, but its not much of a rebuke to the point that some Muslims seem to abuse the Hadiths to get around inconvenient parts of the Quran

    • @adnannunow58
      @adnannunow58 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Rynewulf you are right , there have been many deviations from islam, sects , and many ideologies have branched from it. It’s encouraged for a true Muslim to do his due diligence and return to the core principles,the teachings of the prophet (saw) which is Hadith and the teachings of the Quran which is Gods words and book. A true Muslim will take the 2 together and not leave 1 or the other. Regarding these new deviations and innovations this was already prophesied by the prophet. As much as I hate to say it, finding a true Muslim will only get harder as time goes by, but one will only be safe if they pay attention to all aspect of the faith instead choosing 1 or the other. I will
      Mention 2 Hadiths below of such prophecy

  • @chioptnstdr3448
    @chioptnstdr3448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +848

    Most Muslims these days know more about Hadiths than Quran 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @amillasyra8168
      @amillasyra8168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Sadly true 😔

    • @m.w.1064
      @m.w.1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thats because they arent muslim. Muslims follow the Quran only as did Muhammad. Everyone else follows whatever they wish.

    • @professorshrimp5187
      @professorshrimp5187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@m.w.1064 umm, without the Hadith, The Qur'an justifies beating wives and killing non believers.

    • @m.w.1064
      @m.w.1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@professorshrimp5187 the Quran doesn't justify beating wives. I order for daraba based on it being an imperative verb in that ayat to constitute beating their would have to be an object to beat with in that verse but there isn't any so means go away from or separate from. So that's a lie. Also Quran says no compulsion in islam and only respond with equal force which is in defense so to just kill anyone is a lie. You guys must be poorly educated and lack context and canr read basic ayat to get the claims u make. Liars. No wonder ppl turn away from sectarian non Muslims like sunni and Shia u guys aren't even apart of Islam. Total embarrassment.

    • @professorshrimp5187
      @professorshrimp5187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@m.w.1064 in 8:12 also an 'object to beat with' isn't given. So you think the verse translates to " Separate from their necks and separate from every fingertip "? Also, you claim to be a superior in Islam yet you call other Muslims kaafir. Bravo.

  • @Marlboro_Cone.3883
    @Marlboro_Cone.3883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +481

    My man's pronunciation is Native-Arabic!

    • @belalabusultan5911
      @belalabusultan5911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Almost *
      he still has some letters he did not master yet.

    • @ovaloctopus8
      @ovaloctopus8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@belalabusultan5911 yeah i think it's impossible for foreigners to have perfect pronunciation. Even his English (while almost perfect obviously) is slightly off and you can hear he isn't a native speaker

    • @Sher.ali22
      @Sher.ali22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its his field of expertise

    • @moj1938
      @moj1938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ovaloctopus8 I do not think. Indian can Pronounce as good as People living in Arabic speaking areas.

    • @moby786
      @moby786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He definitely knows Arabic

  • @nihao3273
    @nihao3273 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    In the Quran, it states the Quran is fully complete and detailed- 6:114-6:115. This means nothing is missing and is all you need.

    • @abdellatif9632
      @abdellatif9632 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Without hadith it is impossible to fully understand quran. If i may i can give you examples

    • @nihao3273
      @nihao3273 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@abdellatif9632 do you mean the Quran is not fully detailed and incomplete. God needed help? What about all the people who, at the beginning, who only had Quran? The Hadith were compiled several hundred years later. How did they know what to do?

    • @abdellatif9632
      @abdellatif9632 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@nihao3273 if you are refering to the time the companions, they have the prophet himself as hadith. If you r talking about the generation after that called tabiines, they learned hadiths and quran from the companions. And that is how quran and hadiths is transfered from a generation of schoolars to an other. Everything in islam has a chain of naration. That includes quran. Pick any quran in any reading of the 10, in any mosque in any muslim country, you will find a chain or sanad in the end of it.
      Please don't let any one tell you that the hadith has been writen 200 y after the prophet and therefore makes no sense. The 10 readings of quran have been writen also more than 200 y after the prophet, that doesn't make them wrong.
      The imam malik son of the servant of the prophet wrote the first complete book of hadith

    • @nihao3273
      @nihao3273 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@abdellatif9632 so, when Muhammad received all of the verses of the Quran and when the Quran said “This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed my favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion.” (Qur’an, 5:3), it was wrong, because the Hadith made it more perfect?
      God did not forget to include those things in book he calls “fully complete”. The Hadith are one of the most Divisive texts in the world. Different sects have different Hadith, ignoring others or saying these are fraud but not these others.
      There were tons of Muslims in the beginning of Islam who didn’t have Hadith.
      The Quran is perfect. God promised to protect the Quran from corruption, not the Hadith though. I believe Satan used the Hadith to divide Muslims against one another as the only way to corrupt the religion, like he did to Christianity, Judaism, etc.
      like I said in a previous post, there are even Hadith saying not to trust hadith

    • @abdellatif9632
      @abdellatif9632 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nihao3273 dear friend
      None said that any verse of the quran is incorrect. But every verse can be understood in so many meanings without the hadith. The quran says that you must give zakat (kind of islamic tax). I can understand it as one dollar per year, you can understand as half of your fortune every year and none could blame you or me.
      But please sir, back to our topic, i would love if we focus on the last point which is the writing of the hadith. As i said you can't reject it because it wasn't writen before 200 y after the prophet. I told you two facts: one, that the 1st complete hadith book is the moataa of imam malik son of anas ibn malik who is one of the prophet's companions. Second: the 10 readings of the quran like warsh, hafs, douri,... have also been writen in the 3th century and also have at least 5 narrator in their chains. Did you check these two ideas?

  • @patwsr
    @patwsr ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I don't know your name, but admitting that you know more than a common MUslim, more tolerant than a religious leader. How can you be so awesome? I am a old Muslim. 66 years I passed as a dedicated Muslim. But there were many many times I became frustrated and inquisitive about our traditional Hadiths. Quran itself is a complete book and a complete guideline. If I follow all words of Quran and nothing from Hadith (Hadis) , Will my creator going to punish me for following Quran's words but hot the man made Hadith or will my creator award me the Paradise? In my own educated belief is Quran is sufficient enough. Period!

    • @spreaderofalhaqq
      @spreaderofalhaqq ปีที่แล้ว +4

      if you reject the hadith you reject the quran you are supposed to obey Allah AND HIS RASOOL (Saw)

    • @area51xi
      @area51xi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really really deep dude. You have given this topic a lot of thought, clearly.@@spreaderofalhaqq

    • @spreaderofalhaqq
      @spreaderofalhaqq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@area51xi you don’t have to give what’s mentioned in the Quran (explicitly) very deep thought obey Allah and his messenger! Done

    • @Shahi-bangalah_1352
      @Shahi-bangalah_1352 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@infamous7530Allah himself has said to follow the prophet.
      So how can you follow the prophet without his sayings aka the hadiths?

    • @TheBadgerr
      @TheBadgerr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Shahi-bangalah_1352The prophet’s Sole Purpose was to deliver The Message. He was not a lawmaker, nor did he have that authority. Quran also says obey Allah, The Prophet AND those who have authority. Does that mean you’ll go looking for the hadith of the authorities back then?

  • @munib1000
    @munib1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    Anytime I read the Quran I feel protected, relieved and a lot of it makes so much sense as I've gained some knowledge but when I read the hadiths it confuses me about what is being said.

    • @Mortablunt
      @Mortablunt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My opinion on most Hadith is, to quote the Quran (Surah of Imran) "And [mention, O Muhammad], when Allah took a covenant from those who were given the Scripture, [saying], ‘ You must make it clear to the people and not conceal it.’ But they threw it away behind their backs and exchanged it for a small price. And wretched is that which they purchased." AND "And indeed, among the People of the Scripture are those who believe in Allah and what was revealed to you and what was revealed to them, [being] humbly submissive to Allah. They do not exchange the verses of Allah for a small price. Those will have their reward with their Lord. Indeed, Allah is swift in account." ESPECIALLY SURAH 2 "So woe to those who write the ‘ scripture’ with their own hands, then say, ‘ This is from Allah,’ in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."
      God made sure to make the point clearly many times, the only true revelation is from him.

    • @munib1000
      @munib1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@Mortablunt What I find mostly with Sunni Muslims or Muslims who follow the Sunnah, want a strict set of instructions when doing anything they want it spelt out to them by scholars or imams. Even though we are encouraged to use our own initiative when coming to our own moral conclusions.

    • @yurichtube1162
      @yurichtube1162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Islam is fake

    • @munib1000
      @munib1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yurichtube1162 We can't say, but we can say there is a God. Who wants to do righteous deeds, pay the prescribed alms and believe in the oneness of Allah.

    • @blossomsports1
      @blossomsports1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@munib1000 the Book says to pray five times a day. The Hadith and extra show how best to do so. Ergo, follow the Quran to the T, follow the Hadith with a grain of salt

  • @padraigmcgrath3876
    @padraigmcgrath3876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    A number of years ago, I came across an Islamic website with links to many quite well written, well researched and well argued articles. The website's purpose was to use rational arguments to defend Islam against all of the negative stereotypes (terrorism, suicide bombers, honour-killings, etc). The articles often cited Koranic verses to support their arguments. The arguments in many of the articles proceeded from a Quranist premise
    - the argument often went that, if a certain practice is not advocated or mandated in any verse of the Quran, then it's not Islam, therefore you can't blame Islam for practices which are not advocated or mandated in any Koranic verse.

    • @tesmith47
      @tesmith47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What a lot of Arab type folks don't seem to understand is that to white America they are colored, white America hates colored folks and this is a race war

    • @Mortablunt
      @Mortablunt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@tesmith47 Nobody asked you about anything.

    • @hbsblkk3842
      @hbsblkk3842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tesmith47 what?

    • @chompythebeast
      @chompythebeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That just sounds like the No True Scotsman Fallacy stretched over however many pages or articles. Mere gatekeeping really doesn't hold up to scholarly rigor, not does it jive with a non-abolutist, non-sectarian understanding of religion. If a suicide bomber is a deeply religious person motivated to act by their faith, then that action becomes associated with that faith no matter what an orthodox elite might say, and no matter if that isn't convenient for destroying Islamophobia (which does of course deserve to be undone)

    • @Mohamed-qn7gb
      @Mohamed-qn7gb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Whats the website called?

  • @irwincrook567
    @irwincrook567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +505

    The way he pronounces "Ahl-al Hadith"
    4:12
    RESPECT

    • @oreste8570
      @oreste8570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yeah, he pronounced it better than Turks who say ehlül hadis

    • @hamzahaidar2084
      @hamzahaidar2084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@oreste8570 in hindi - urdu too we pronounce “hadis" instead of 'hadith'

    • @mtaha4062
      @mtaha4062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oreste8570 some Turks :)

    • @3alaiyer
      @3alaiyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Pourya to some people, it is hard especially Americans that don’t have letters even NEAR 7a

    • @Froggeh92
      @Froggeh92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This guy has amazing pronounciation for a foreigner. Its incredible

  • @Dragon_With_Matches
    @Dragon_With_Matches 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    This particular group is really interesting to me. I would love to see more videos about them.

    • @anasm4496
      @anasm4496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The Prophet of Allah (Peace be upon him) warned us of them in a hadith.

    • @Ohkayx-m2h
      @Ohkayx-m2h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@anasm4496 hadiths are fake

    • @ADeeSHUPA
      @ADeeSHUPA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @The Sufficient Qur'an uP

    • @screamingwind3559
      @screamingwind3559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @The Sufficient Qur'an you have a channel, post a video of yourself explaining deeply what is quranist.
      Where can I find a video of a quranist that recite the quran in proper Arabic not English recitation.

    • @قآھړآلْطۈآغڀٿ
      @قآھړآلْطۈآغڀٿ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ohkayx-m2h
      You have no knowledge of hadiths you are the one who is fake and ignorant

  • @beefandpotatoes6525
    @beefandpotatoes6525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    a rich and unbiased presentation of islam and muslims. It is amazing.

  • @QuranicIslam
    @QuranicIslam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    🌹 thank you for the shout out for Hassan Farhan al-Maliki! And this was a very good round up and very accurate. An important element though that I think you missed is the consideration that most of the major practical issues are not really taken from Hadith, the go to example being prayer/salat. No Muslim really learns it from Hadith, nor, if you give to give someone, who has never seen a Muslim pray, all the Hadiths on prayer, could he/she ever come up with the traditional salat. They are not detailed and descriptive enough and often just argue about minor details on the assumption that you know the prayer.
    So perhaps that kind of a discussion ... a sort of Hadith vs Sunna vs mass transgenerationally inherited practices, and how that relates to Quranism, is needed in this video.
    Still a very good informative video, thank you for posting it. The admission near beginning that the majority of Islam is in actuality based on the Hadith and not the Qur'an is refreshing. 👍
    This is only the 3rd video I've seen from your channel and I am very impressed so far

    • @moroccandeepweb5880
      @moroccandeepweb5880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You do know that Hasan Farhan al-Maliki is not a Qur’anist, unless you're using another definition of what Qur’anism is.

    • @QuranicIslam
      @QuranicIslam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@moroccandeepweb5880
      Well I never said he was. I said thanks for the shout out. It is our friend here who made the video about Quranism who put him in it.

    • @moroccandeepweb5880
      @moroccandeepweb5880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@QuranicIslam فك الله أسره

    • @codystevens403
      @codystevens403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Speaking as a Qurani, who studied under Benni Yameen, who studied under Sami Ayoub. I can tell you we don’t believe in ANY physical Sallah. The Sallah Allah reveals in the Quran can be understood simply by studying the root of the words ‏ ‏صلو means a connection when Allah says Iqam AsSallah ‏‏إقام الصلاة what he means is “establish a connection”. A Connection is between two points what are those two points you may ask? The wisdom Allah provided us in the Quran is at one end of the connection and at the other end; the application of said wisdom in our everyday lives.

    • @QuranicIslam
      @QuranicIslam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@codystevens403
      That "we" is a problem though when you say "we Quranis", because there are others who call themselves Quranists who do in fact believe in a physical salat. And putting forward "having studied under X and Y" as something authoritative is exactly what many self-defined Quranists would call a problem and the telltale sign of sect while those Quranists would say that one of point in putting the Qur'an above all is that you won't be tied in a sectarian manner.

  • @miju_ahmed
    @miju_ahmed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    you just nailed down💖 May Almighty grant you more knowledge. peace be upon you.

  • @mbenm4332
    @mbenm4332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    You did a better job than any Muslim that I know. I really appreciate your details and narrations.

    • @africanhistory
      @africanhistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      NOw that is very unfair because if you DO NOT KNOW any, of course, you would make a ridiculous statement like this. Your statement is more of your own ignorance of things that his "BETTER JOB". This channel is secular and for explaining Islam to primarily non-Muslims. It is excellent in this regard, however. Way deeper stuff exists by Muslim scholars.

    • @mbenm4332
      @mbenm4332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You not able to debate with me my friend regarding Islam. You ignorant plus I speak Arabic do you speak Arabic ?

    • @alhashmy1310
      @alhashmy1310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@africanhistory 👏👏👏

  • @jannahm1788
    @jannahm1788 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I have a lot of respect for Quranism and even went through a Quranist phase myself. You summed up in this video the biggest issue I had with it too: a lot of the religious rituals are indeed difficult to practice without referring to the hadith. The common arguments I've seen around this, though, are that the specifics of these practices have been passed down through the generations, thus nobody really looks towards hadith on how to perform them. While that may be true it doesn't consider the fact that these details that are being passed down may have originally come from the oral tradition that later got written down as hadith.

    • @thebeesnuts777
      @thebeesnuts777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can derive salaah from the Quran, and what it actually is, Hadith or use of the context and attributions to the messenger as an explanation of Quran to a particular way i.e 5 times a day 3 times a day style robot shenanigans, psssst it's called going down the lizard hole like previous generations, I e they misunderstood the verses/ commands , when they were corrected i.e through prophets they still insisted on the superfluous ways, they shackled themselves
      Maryam was told to do RUKU with those that do RUKU, SUJOOD is not mentioned after this or before
      RUKU = humble, humility, incline etc
      In other words be amongst a community who show these traits
      But Hadith will transform this verse into proof of 1 way of " prayer " , should be translated as connection s-w-l root of Salaah means to connect, aqeemussalaah = establish the connection
      What is the connection how? What times ?
      The Quran is the Zhikr , understanding the parables, learning data of all kinds to help you understand the Zhikr, those that seek the akhirat ( delayed diligent approach) not the rushed way or rushed interpretation
      Mujrimoon is translated as criminals but should be Butchers of interpretation, that's actually the more accurate translation
      Yes so having a routine is establishing a connection and if it's in the mindfulness of your lord then yes that's a salaah
      Pray standing, sitting or lying on your side, this verse is indicating form isn't important but more importantly establish a frequency in doing so , so that you may benefit
      Most people work they have fajar to do the connection I e their way from what Allah has declared i.e Zhikr of Quran and all that entails and Qunoot ( deep mediation, reflection and no speaking ) then zhour ( lunch time ) then evening prayer
      Then some verses specific other times but all is hinting at a routine and 3 seems to be a starting point, it fits most peoples routine, and those who are retired, more free time are able to offer more time/s in connection
      So salaah has been misunderstanding, they are all down the rabbit hole,

    • @diiriyetv
      @diiriyetv ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Muslims were doing their salaat and other rituals well before the hadiths were written.

    • @thebeesnuts777
      @thebeesnuts777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@diiriyetv
      Yes , the way they pray now is the Jewish prayer, Muhammad was also commanded to pray as such when he was a prophet for the Jews, because that's how they prayed and he had to also do the same for an appointed time so as not to get rejected outright by the people he came to rectify
      And the mumineen ( believers 👈 presant and future tense) in Quran says you can pray standing sitting or lying on your sides 👈 the mumineen have no connection with Bani Israel, Allah says their fathers were not warned
      Ya ayyuhal latheena amanu 👈 those that believed 👈 past tense, indicates those who already knew tawheed i.e Bani Israel
      So Muhammad was a prophet for Bani Israel and a messenger of Quran for the believers
      It's a shame ummayad infiltration of Islam early and corrupted the Deen,
      Quraish assassinated all the righteous, and started saying Quran was revealed in their dialect, but Quran have many words Arabs don't understand because they were not Arabic origin

    • @TawheedAqida
      @TawheedAqida ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@thebeesnuts777uran only Muslims love being heretics
      Al-Hajj 22:26
      وَإِذْ بَوَّأْنَا لِإِبْرَٰهِيمَ مَكَانَ ٱلْبَيْتِ أَن لَّا تُشْرِكْ بِى شَيْـًٔا وَطَهِّرْ بَيْتِىَ لِلطَّآئِفِينَ وَٱلْقَآئِمِينَ وَٱلرُّكَّعِ ٱلسُّجُودِ
      English - Sahih International
      And [mention, O Muḥammad], when We designated for Abraham the site of the House, [saying], "Do not associate anything with Me and purify My House for those who perform ṭawāf[1] and those who stand [in prayer] and those who bow and prostrate.
      Al-Fath 48:29
      مُّحَمَّدٌ رَّسُولُ ٱللَّهِۚ وَٱلَّذِينَ مَعَهُۥٓ أَشِدَّآءُ عَلَى ٱلْكُفَّارِ رُحَمَآءُ بَيْنَهُمْۖ تَرَىٰهُمْ رُكَّعًا سُجَّدًا يَبْتَغُونَ فَضْلًا مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرِضْوَٰنًاۖ سِيمَاهُمْ فِى وُجُوهِهِم مِّنْ أَثَرِ ٱلسُّجُودِۚ ذَٰلِكَ مَثَلُهُمْ فِى ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةِۚ وَمَثَلُهُمْ فِى ٱلْإِنجِيلِ كَزَرْعٍ أَخْرَجَ شَطْـَٔهُۥ فَـَٔازَرَهُۥ فَٱسْتَغْلَظَ فَٱسْتَوَىٰ عَلَىٰ سُوقِهِۦ يُعْجِبُ ٱلزُّرَّاعَ لِيَغِيظَ بِهِمُ ٱلْكُفَّارَۗ وَعَدَ ٱللَّهُ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَعَمِلُوا۟ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ مِنْهُم مَّغْفِرَةً وَأَجْرًا عَظِيمًۢا
      English - Sahih International
      Muḥammad is the Messenger of Allāh; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allāh and [His] pleasure. Their sign is in their faces from the effect of prostration [i.e., prayer]. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that He [i.e., Allāh] may enrage by them[1] the disbelievers. Allāh has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.
      An-Nisa' 4:102
      وَإِذَا كُنتَ فِيهِمْ فَأَقَمْتَ لَهُمُ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ فَلْتَقُمْ طَآئِفَةٌ مِّنْهُم مَّعَكَ وَلْيَأْخُذُوٓا۟ أَسْلِحَتَهُمْ فَإِذَا سَجَدُوا۟ فَلْيَكُونُوا۟ مِن وَرَآئِكُمْ وَلْتَأْتِ طَآئِفَةٌ أُخْرَىٰ لَمْ يُصَلُّوا۟ فَلْيُصَلُّوا۟ مَعَكَ وَلْيَأْخُذُوا۟ حِذْرَهُمْ وَأَسْلِحَتَهُمْۗ وَدَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ لَوْ تَغْفُلُونَ عَنْ أَسْلِحَتِكُمْ وَأَمْتِعَتِكُمْ فَيَمِيلُونَ عَلَيْكُم مَّيْلَةً وَٰحِدَةًۚ وَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ إِن كَانَ بِكُمْ أَذًى مِّن مَّطَرٍ أَوْ كُنتُم مَّرْضَىٰٓ أَن تَضَعُوٓا۟ أَسْلِحَتَكُمْۖ وَخُذُوا۟ حِذْرَكُمْۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ أَعَدَّ لِلْكَٰفِرِينَ عَذَابًا مُّهِينًا
      English - Sahih International
      And when you [i.e., the commander of an army] are among them and lead them in prayer,[1] let a group of them stand [in prayer] with you and let them carry their arms. And when they have prostrated, let them be [in position] behind you and have the other group come forward which has not [yet] prayed and let them pray with you, taking precaution and carrying their arms. Those who disbelieve wish that you would neglect your weapons and your baggage so they could come down upon you in one [single] attack. But there is no blame upon you, if you are troubled by rain or are ill, for putting down your arms, but take precaution. Indeed, Allāh has prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment.
      Of course people who don't read Quran will never see these ayat proving Salat is a ritual.

    • @TawheedAqida
      @TawheedAqida ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thebeesnuts777don't act like your some Arabic master. You clearly can't recognize mutashābihāt ayat from clear ones . Your just a heretic kl

  • @AhlullahiWaKhasatuhu
    @AhlullahiWaKhasatuhu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Major Misconception Clarification:
    Uthmān the 3rd Khalīfah was not the first to compile the Qur'ān into one book. Rather he only standardised its script and nothing more. Some of the sahabah already had personal copies of the Qur'ān during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم and the time of the first Khalīfah Abū Bakr رضي الله عنه.

    • @ibrahimkbrov4288
      @ibrahimkbrov4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*

    • @Meliodasthesinofwrath
      @Meliodasthesinofwrath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Important
      Ali-ibn-ibrahim the great commentator of quran who lived in the third century A.H has narrated form imam sadiq (as) that the prophet ordered this cousin, son-in-low, and vicegerent. Hazrat ali (AS) to collect and compile the different parts of quran, which were than written upon pieces of silk, paper, skin of animals and etc.
      The narrator add that “HAZRAT(AS) fulfilled the commandment, sincerely collecting the scattered pieces and parts. He than wrapped all the parts in a yellow cloth and took them for compilation.”
      Besides that; the famous tradition of the prophet, which is related by many, and through successive witness; “I shall go and leave among you two heavy things: the book of allah, and my kins.”Is an enough proof that qurahad already been compiled in prophet time
      As for view that some say:” hazrat ali (AS) compiled the book, after the prophet”, it should be known that, what was collected by hazrat ali (AS), after the prophet, was not merely the text of quran: It rather was collection consisting of the text with various comments, of the prophet anout different verses and the historical evidences, and some details and reasons for the revelations, and etc.

    • @rintrah81
      @rintrah81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Meliodasthesinofwrath the proof is from the Quran that the Quran was written in the time of Mohammad? Dubious at best. Not a strong proof.

    • @Meliodasthesinofwrath
      @Meliodasthesinofwrath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rintrah81 proof is strong but you are ignorance

    • @hannawurst6064
      @hannawurst6064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ⚠️⚠️Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️
      Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""
      The Name Jesus means------------- "YHWH RESCUE"
      Elijah means------------- --------------" MY GOD IS YHWH"
      John means ----------------------------" YHWH has been gracious""
      Zakariya means -----------------------""YHWH has remembered""
      Jacob means----------------------------"YHWH will PROTECT!"
      are all prophets according to the Quran

  • @mrmalver3655
    @mrmalver3655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    As a non-denominational Muslim I want to thank you for the effort you're doing in making very informative videos and researching every topic related to religions. I wished that you would mention that Not all the hadiths are problematic, as it depends on two factors:
    1- The authenticity of the hadith because not all hadiths are considered authentic.
    2- The number of people who transmitted the hadith, some hadiths were transmitted by one or two people who are mostly companions of the prophet Muhammad when hadith was collected, while others were transmitted by more than five people and I think they can be problematic depending on the topic or the context.

    • @divestedkonservativekarame4269
      @divestedkonservativekarame4269 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But you have to understand that hadith that specifically says aisha was a kid. Is considered authentic. That lets you know that the Hadith is bullcrap and whoever made it hated Muhammad prophet Muhammad peace and blessings upon him. And also try to slander him in the most terrible way possible.

    • @toseef777
      @toseef777 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@divestedkonservativekarame4269
      Exactly. Then Orthodox Muslims will defend that Hadith and make up crazy arguments to support it. In their mind if a Hadith is sahih they equate it to the Quran.

    • @luf832
      @luf832 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toseef777This is a tactic of the kuffar. They quote a verse like 4:34 where you can physically discipline your wife and base it off todays liberal secular society. You’re falling into the same thing.

    • @toseef777
      @toseef777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luf832 There is no logical way way of defending Ayesha being married at 9 Hadith. It goes against the Quran, yet literalist Muslims treat it like it’s some holy revelation.

    • @MyPimpedOutMuslim
      @MyPimpedOutMuslim ปีที่แล้ว

      @@divestedkonservativekarame4269No, maybe you grew up in a western country that called the prophet a bad person for marrying her at a young age, but this wasn’t an actual argument against Islam until the early 1900s from an orientalist. For almsot 1300 years, no one enemies of Islam or scholars brought up the age of Aisha. Sorry if you want to try and make Islam fit your non believing frejnds better by forcing a modern view on the times they lived in, but life back then isn’t the same as today. People didnt live very long, and it was normal for people to get married younger then, if you can’t handle that fact then I don’t know what to tell you, for Christians in the Old Testament with Jacob and others they also married ppl at a young age

  • @prognosis8768
    @prognosis8768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    When I was studying Islam years ago, it occurred to me that the Hadiths were problematic and the Quran should probably be the only text considered authoritative. I didn't realize that this was actually some sort of movement, however.

    • @byron-ih2ge
      @byron-ih2ge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      the hadiths are literally disturbing .

    • @justaguywithaturban6773
      @justaguywithaturban6773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@byron-ih2ge
      And in my understanding and the understanding of many muslims the majority of the hadiths are fabricated I mean just look at the timeline.

    • @byron-ih2ge
      @byron-ih2ge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@justaguywithaturban6773 bro i am not even talking about hassan or daif hadiths they are satanic all together . i am talking about sahih hadiths . just reading the two most authentic and what makes a simple muslim a sunni muslim ,the sahih bukhari and sahih muslim are enough for someone to leave islam they are that disturbing and strange.

    • @byron-ih2ge
      @byron-ih2ge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@justaguywithaturban6773 i think thats why 90 percent of muslims know about hadiths only through their priest because if they read it themselves then 😂😂 islam is really gonna have a bad time

    • @byron-ih2ge
      @byron-ih2ge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@justaguywithaturban6773 if ur a quranist only then ur comment is valid

  • @bahaelfakir
    @bahaelfakir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Mate, your fantastic. Thank you for this!

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      :)

    • @786humaira1
      @786humaira1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LetsTalkReligion you are sooo blessed.
      God continue to bless you for making the meaning of Islam CLEAR as a CRYSTAL.

    • @786humaira1
      @786humaira1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Blessed is the mother who gave birth to a soul like you.

    • @ibrahimkbrov4288
      @ibrahimkbrov4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*

  • @onlyitj
    @onlyitj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Your videos are very informative and academic, without much bias. Thanks for taking the time and making such contents

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you very much :)

    • @ibrahimkbrov4288
      @ibrahimkbrov4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*

    • @trmp9923
      @trmp9923 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Learning to handle criticism is an important life skill

  • @m.b5777
    @m.b5777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    It is narrated by Abu Hurrairah that the Prophet said: "Do not believe everything you read on the internet."
    Sahih-al-Bukhari Kitab ul internet Hadith number 101

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I've heard that the isnad is weak on that one.

    • @gicky-gackers
      @gicky-gackers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This cracked me up 🤣

    • @Muhamedim
      @Muhamedim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LetsTalkReligion Its Isnad is weaker on my 5G connexion , lol

    • @freepalestinefreekashmirno3160
      @freepalestinefreekashmirno3160 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi

    • @DWAGON1818
      @DWAGON1818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If you are a Muslim, make tawba for what you've said.
      If not, learn to respect other people's beliefs.

  • @OrdoMallius
    @OrdoMallius ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Wow. Imagine if Christians had a Bible and then another book called "life of Jesus" written by some German 200 years after Christ and we use that second book as an authority over the Bible. This is ridiculous! I as a Christian fully support these Quranists

    • @RayB432
      @RayB432 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro these sunnis love labelling those who believe in Quran alone as Quranists when in the Quran the believers are called Muslim.
      They are sectarians and proudly identify with their sects.
      Those who follow Quran: we are identify simply as Muslims.

    • @murfurdur4727
      @murfurdur4727 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Christians do have that... it's called church fathers

    • @TainePooter
      @TainePooter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      > Casually describes American Evangelists

    • @vandarkholme8548
      @vandarkholme8548 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That's basically Catholicism

    • @ElizabethCooke-c9d
      @ElizabethCooke-c9d 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol Christians do have perversions of the words and life of Jesus. Its in your own Bible. Actually its Mathew mark like and John acts and Corinthians (paul). Its the 6 gospels corrupted. We have our six hadith books in islam too and also the Jewish talmud has got 6 orders too. All 3 monotheistic religions perverted and corrupted by 6 6 6

  • @inaaranur1611
    @inaaranur1611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are times when I cannot listen to someone even if their material is good as I am very sensitive to the voice.
    Not only is your content excellent but the tone of your voice is very pleasant to listen to
    Excellent quality work

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you don't mind me asking what do you think of Reforming islam sincerely from a muslim

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want others to respect your religion then you should do the same for others

    • @inaaranur1611
      @inaaranur1611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theguyver4934 Tell that to Christians too please
      Disrespect comes from individuals
      so you have no reason to make that statement to me as I have not said anything disrespectful about another religion

    • @inaaranur1611
      @inaaranur1611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theguyver4934
      Some Individual Muslims need reform as do people from other religions
      and I consider a great deal of issue is from cultures
      Especially when Muslims do not know the difference between what is dictated by their culture and they think and state it is according to Islam. They are not educated about their own religion and then pass on this to non Muslims as if it is factual

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@inaaranur1611 - No offense but yes you do

  • @realislam3838
    @realislam3838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Thanks for this video,,,it's really academic and has covered most of details about quransim.
    I'm Quranist, and Quranists can't show their beliefs without being harassed by other muslims sects, I have lost my job due to my religious convictions..

    • @whoswho8241
      @whoswho8241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      One who doesn't believes or follows in prophet Mohammad s.w.a pbuh is a arrogant knowledge less Muslim....​Its like a ocean without water...i don't even know​ if Allah gonna accept those...

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Sorry to hear about your job!

    • @ishubetterthanyou1582
      @ishubetterthanyou1582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@whoswho8241 Making fake accounts or comment won't help you either, my child.

    • @pmpm1841
      @pmpm1841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ishu Better Than You being a innovator and infiltrating Islam won’t get muslims to change, brah

    • @kuroazrem5376
      @kuroazrem5376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thatsadly happens.

  • @xariqx_
    @xariqx_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I'd like to see a video on how the Qu'ran was compiled during and after the prophet's death!

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Interesting topic, but also difficult to cover because there is so little historical information available!

    • @m.b5777
      @m.b5777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There was no video camera back then.

    • @ADeeSHUPA
      @ADeeSHUPA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @aqeel -محمود uP

    • @utfocrew7762
      @utfocrew7762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @aqeel -محمود Book format??..How or who compiled the Quran into a book format..Allah himself ??..Who.

    • @maulajatt5655
      @maulajatt5655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't think it really matters how it was compiled. Allah said he will preserve and protect this book so you can be assured, how ever it was compiled, the book is complete and from Allah

  • @inquranwetrust6035
    @inquranwetrust6035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    If quranism is to be 100% trusting of the Quran over everything including hadith I am therefore a quranist :)

    • @jamesgordley5000
      @jamesgordley5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I think Quranism goes a step or two further than that. It not only trusts the Quran over hadith, but it also disregards hadith.

    • @zagazow6398
      @zagazow6398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Doesn't disregard unless it doesnt coincide with Quran. As it should be Alhumdulilah

    • @sapienthought1103
      @sapienthought1103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@zagazow6398 it coincides with their understanding not the Quran don't speard falsehood
      number two they deny hadiths saying the quran doesn't ask us to follow the sunnah.

    • @shockwave4049
      @shockwave4049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Quranism is following the Quran only and rejecting the Hadith. This is obviously haram as Allah in the Quran says in 4:59:
      >O believers! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. Should you disagree on anything, then refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day. This is the best and fairest resolution.
      This verse alone debunks Quranism. Here are some other resources:
      **Why do we need the Hadith? Isn’t the Quran Enough?**
      Why do we need Hadith if the Quran is enough? - Nouman Ali Khan: th-cam.com/video/bB4cARWalY4/w-d-xo.html
      The important of the Sunnah - Dr Zakir Naik: th-cam.com/video/7UHausaQqTE/w-d-xo.html
      Is the Quran incomplete without the Hadith? - Zakir Naik: th-cam.com/video/L-4jC5iAl8E/w-d-xo.html
      Hadith is necessary to understand the Quran: yaqeeninstitute.org/emadhamdeh/are-hadith-necessary/
      If the Quran is complete, why Sunnah? islamqa.info/en/answers/93111/if-the-quran-is-perfect-and-completeand-contains-everything-needed-for-the-laws-and-regulations-of-shareeah-what-need-is-there-for-the-sunnah
      **General resources comprehensively refuting Quranists/Quraniyoon (Hadith Rejectors)**
      Fitna of the Quranists:
      thethinkingmuslim.com/2013/08/28/rejecting-hadiths/
      Refuting the argument that the Quran is complete, and therefore we do not need the Hadith:
      www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_the_argument_that_the_quran_is_complete_and_therefore_we_don_t_need_hadith_
      Questions that No Quranist have logical answers to:
      www.call-to-monotheism.com/questions_that_the_quranites_have_no_good_logical_responses_to
      Proofs from the Quran for the need for Sunnah, (Part II in the sidebar) (and 14 more parts in the book)
      www.sunnah.org/fiqh/usul/probativeness_sunna/Default.htm
      It is Unfeasible to Act Solely On the Basis of the Qur'an (Part XIV in sidebar) (and 14 more parts in the book)
      www.sunnah.org/fiqh/usul/probativeness_sunna/Default.htm (Alt: www.livingislam.org/ps16_e.html)
      Authority of the Hadith in light of the Quran
      www.letmeturnthetables.com/2010/09/authority-of-hadith-from-quran.html
      The Fallacies of Anti-Hadith Arguments
      www.ilmgate.org/the-fallacies-of-anti-hadith-arguments/
      The Authority of the Sunnah in Islam by Mufti Muhammad Taqi Usmani (PDF)
      archive.org/details/TheAuthorityOfSunnahByMuftiTaqiUsmani

    • @nikostheater
      @nikostheater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      There is no Islam without the Hadiths, because the Hadiths are required to explain a lot of things and context in the Quran. The Quran by itself is almost useless as a guide to Muslims. Most of the Islamic practices come from the Hadiths, like the number of daily prayers. You would not even now the name of your prophet without the Hadiths and the early biography of Muhammad.

  • @ABel-oi5kv
    @ABel-oi5kv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One of the best books to read on the subject is : "The Quran , Morality and Critical Reason" by The Late Mohamed Shahrour ,Translated by : Andreas Christmann.
    Shahrur is at the moment the most innovative intellectual thinker in the Arab Middle East. Often described as the ‘Martin Luther of Islam,’ he offers a liberal, progressive reading of Islam that aims to counter the influences of religious fundamentalism and radical politics. Shahrur’s innovative interpretation of the Qur’an offers groundbreaking new ideas, based on his conviction that centuries of historical Islam, including scholarship in the traditional Islamic religious sciences, have obscured or even obliterated the Qur’an’s progressive and revolutionary message. That message is one that has endured through each period of human history in which Islam has existed, encouraging Muslims to apply the most contemporary perspective available to interpret the Qur’an’s meaning.

    • @Psychedlia98
      @Psychedlia98 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blessed

    • @korifm9051
      @korifm9051 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the recommendation!

  • @sprachenwelt
    @sprachenwelt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Prayer does not come from the Hadith, but from the practical Sunnah (the practical transmission of Traditions from the Prophet to his community up to the day) which Quranists do not reject. This does not negate, that lots of Hadith collections speak about prayer, but the prayer itself is rooted in practical guidance by the prophet.

    • @danecadette4714
      @danecadette4714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do you recite tashahhud in prayer?

    • @sm1468
      @sm1468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      u cant prove the authenticity of Quran without ahadith

    • @mohammedmatagi7983
      @mohammedmatagi7983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sm1468 actually its the opposite because in order to believe in the quran you have to believe that the prophet spoke the words of the quran and the hadith are versions of opinions and stories from the prophets followers

    • @sm1468
      @sm1468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mohammedmatagi7983 no u actually cant prove the preservation of Quran without ahadith

    • @MyPimpedOutMuslim
      @MyPimpedOutMuslim ปีที่แล้ว

      And where do you get the practical Sunnah from?

  • @defenseandgeopolitics
    @defenseandgeopolitics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    If hadith tells me take care of neighbor it's true because it goes with Qur'an. But if it tells something that contradict Qur'an I don't believe it.

    • @eyllengul
      @eyllengul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Same we should take Quran as our source but there is nothing wrong to believe in hadith that do not goes against Quran. We can learn the life of our prophet by reading hadith we just have to be carefull. Since we have good intentions by reading hadith and we still consider Quran as our source we are fine.

    • @pmpm1841
      @pmpm1841 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol lol yes

    • @ADeeSHUPA
      @ADeeSHUPA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eyllengul uP

    • @defenseandgeopolitics
      @defenseandgeopolitics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @BRRP saying that all of hadith is not true would be absurd. Obviously there is right and wrong in hadith. Because there is truthful people who narrated it because their ancestors really heard it and some not. Simple as that. We can distinct good hadith by going with Qur'an. Not by scholars saying it's true. Because many hadiths are classified as true but still have no logic.

    • @askhan12406
      @askhan12406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That is literally how they prove if hadith are actually real. If the hadith contradicts the quran, even if it's from the most credible source and has been perfectly preserved, then it won't even be considered as a hadith

  • @celestialknight2339
    @celestialknight2339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Thank you for this video, sir. Could you please provide the reference for the early Muslim qādhis (judges/magistrates) not making extended use of the Hadith? That would be highly appreciated. Thanks again, and Salam!

  • @BalconyGardening1915
    @BalconyGardening1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I am a Quran centric Muslim. I will gladly answer questions as long as they are asked honestly and respectfully.
    Peace

    • @AAZinvicto
      @AAZinvicto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you also reject mutawaatir (mass transmitted) ahaadith?

    • @BalconyGardening1915
      @BalconyGardening1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @AAZinvicto Yes.
      We believe that ahadith should be read and taken only as historical narratives giving us a good idea of how people used to live. They should never be taken as scriptures from which religious laws would be derived.
      The only source of laws for us is the protected Word of God (Quran).

    • @AAZinvicto
      @AAZinvicto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BalconyGardening1915
      Good to know that you don't doubt the authenticity of Mutawaatir ahaadith.
      But still, this is in a direct contradiction to "Ati Ullah wa ati ur Rasool" (Obey Allah and obey the Messenger) mentioned in the Qur'an.
      We don't find Sahaba saying to the Messenger ﷺ "Why should we do what You are saying? We'll only obey what's in the Qur'an. Why are you showing us these extra steps in Wudu, like rinsing the mouth, cleaning the nose. etc?"

    • @shadygaming6523
      @shadygaming6523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AAZinvicto no it doesn't contradict that verse because ahadith didn't come from the prophet, why can't you get this simpàle fact through your thick skull?

    • @BalconyGardening1915
      @BalconyGardening1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @AAZinvicto Esselamu Aleykum brother,
      Sorry, I never got notified of your reply. It was by accident that I noticed it. So, as they say, better late than never, here is my reply:
      That verse instructs early Muslims to obey the prophet Mohammed (pbuh). Of course, Muslims were expected to obey the prophet while he lived among them.. We all know, the prophet hasn’t been alive for over 1400 years now. Ahadith do not represent the prophet. Ahadith are collections of narrations which are supposedly third person accounts of prophet's words and/or actions. However, these could never be verified as such.
      Sure, many Muslims would quickly point out at something they call the science of Hadith. By this, they are referring to the methods which hadith compilers used in order to determine which ahadith are authentic and which ones are not. They like to call it the science even though there is absolutely nothing scientific about it. Authenticating and sorting out narrations (ahadith) was nothing more than a guess work. You can even call it educated guess work since clearly there was some method applied to the process of elimination. Was that method 100% fool-proof?. Of course, it wasn't. It's worth mentioning that the first collection of Ahadith was gathered approximately 200 years after prophet's death. How many companions of the Prophet were alive at the time first Hadith collection got written down?
      The answer: NONE.
      At least three generations of people lived and died between the time Quran was compiled and the time first Ahadith collection was compiled. Who could actually prove the chain of narration if all the witnesses, their children, and their children's children happen to be all dead?
      Think about it!
      Hadith collectors did their best when it comes to sorting them out. However, they had no certain way of knowing.The question is: Should we jepardise our faith by accepting and obeying unreliable sources based purely on guess work? Or should we derive the rules to follow from the only reliable source that God promised to protect? The choice is yours.
      I believe ahadith should be read and taken only as historical narratives giving us a good idea of how people used to live. They should never be taken as scriptures from which religious laws would be derived. The only source of laws for us is the protected Word of God (Quran). Here are some Verses which support this statement:
      “These (are the) Verses, (of) Allah We recite them to you in truth. Then in which hadith besides Allah’s Verses will they believe?” 45:6
      I“Or have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all things which God has created? Or that perhaps their time may be drawing near? In which Hadith after this will they believe in” 7:185
      “God has brought down the best Hadith; a book (Quran) that is consistent in its frequent repetitions.” 39:23
      “So in which hadith, other than this (Quran), will they believe?” 77:50
      [18:27] “You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord’s Scripture (the Quran). Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.”
      Pay special attention to the last one:
      [18:27] “You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord’s Scripture (the Quran). Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.”
      I look at what the bold letters say: Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.”
      I highlighted that sentence because as you probably know there are some(maybe more than some) Sunni scholars who actually believe in arrogation of Quranic verses. Yes, they would rather abrogate the Words of God in to give credibility to rulings which are based purely on Hadith.
      To me only a scholar of Quran is the scholar of Islam. The scholar of ahadith can easily arrive at the wrong conclusions and the wrong ruling.
      All that is important for us to know is clearly described in Quran.
      Unless, you think your Lord is a liar(God forbid)
      "A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail / distinguished (Arabic: Fussilat); a Quran in Arabic, for people who understand" 41:3
      "By the Book that makes things clear, We have made it an Arabic Quran so that you may understand." 43:2,3
      "(This is) a Book, with verses perfected, moreover explained in detail / distinguished (Arabic: Fussilat) from One Who is Wise and Well-acquainted (with all things)" 11:1
      “And on the day when We will raise up in every people a witness against them from among themselves, and bring you as a witness against these and We have revealed the Book to you explaining clearly / clarification of everything (Arabic: tibiana lekulli shayin), and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who submit” 16:89
      “Blessed is He Who has revealed to His slave the criterion of right and wrong (Arabic: Furqan), that he may be a warner to the peoples" 25:1
      "By the Book that makes things clear, surely We sent it down on a blessed night-We have always sent warnings-" 44:2,3
      "We have made this Quran easy to understand-in your own language-so that they may take heed."44:58
      "We have made it easy to learn lessons from the Quran. Is there anyone who would receive admonition?" 54:17
      “This is a blessed Book which We sent down to you [Muhammad], for people to ponder over its messages, and for those with understanding to take heed.” 38:29
      Here God is asking you to read and think about what you have read. He is not asking you to obey whatever some mujtahid said and never use your brain.
      The verses I have quoted are clear and not taken out of context.

  • @VanessaMendes
    @VanessaMendes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this channel ❤️
    Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷

  • @abdihassan9239
    @abdihassan9239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    im muslim whole my life and never heard Quranists before.........my local Mosque dead no teaching going on at all,,,,,,fighting each other........i have learned a lot here.......thank you man

    • @c5quared626
      @c5quared626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was Sunni for 40 years always studying and trying to learn more, never satisfied. However in my first 2 months of quranism, I was 100% satisfied. Quransmessage.com has many very good articles, start with the ones on hadith and basics. The Quran is mubeen-clear but the Scholars will tell you you cant read it by yourself, and you need tafsir to brainwash you, tafseer are just human interpretations, not history.

    • @c5quared626
      @c5quared626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @D Man speakers corner videos are all like m.hijab finding very low spoken basic quranists and just yelling at them. It's pathetic.

    • @c5quared626
      @c5quared626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @More Ferarum we today can decipher hieroglyphs and sumerian cuneiform tablets to pretty amazing legible accuracy. The Quran is similar, yet we have far more in terms of clues and hints. Including ancient Arabic poetry, lexicons, current Arabic dialects. There are no hadith that explicitly define quranic words. Like " hey guys, this verse/word means this", if there are they can be proven as questionable at best, because many hadith are illogical in their attempts to explain the Quran, and can be proven as fabrications, by other verses that totally dont reflect that idea. For example there is the story of khidr, all Sunnis "believe this" but looking back on it, he khidr could not be an immortal human, it's a myth. The personality who accompanied moses was probably an angel, based on language used with the visitors of Lot and Abraham.
      The channel Qurancentric has his a good system, check it out:
      th-cam.com/video/9Cm-utvQXnc/w-d-xo.html

    • @c5quared626
      @c5quared626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @More Ferarum yup, the Quran does leave out alot of trivialities, that we humanoids refer to as details. However the Quran is mubeen and fussilat, clear and detailed. This is not a conundrum. We think the location of Noah's ark or the burning Bush are details we need. Dates, places, even many names are left out, these are trivialities, not fine details that apply to eternal salvation. The Quran is not an encyclopedia, it is a spiritual guide, in the socio cultural context of 600ad Arabia. The Persian authors of hadith had their ideas mechanisms to understand the Quran in THEIR context.

    • @c5quared626
      @c5quared626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @More Ferarum you're saying not much will be left without hadith. That is right and that is good and simple.
      There is a list of commandments in the Quran, i have to find it again, none of them were rituals found in hadith. They were all about being good and not lying, and peaceful and sound and helpful to the weak poor, disabled, orphans, single mothers, avoiding war, like over 30 of these with verse references. The hadithists ignore all of them, they pursue rituals and oppose many ayah in the process. Mostly because they dont even understand the words they "pray" That cant be the intention the Quran. The Quran is meant to be learnt, not ritualistically recited like a magical incantation.

  • @AbidNasim
    @AbidNasim 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Some often-overlooked nuances deserve attention. Sunnah refers to a practice, while God's Sunnah-His unchanging way-is explicitly mentioned in the Quran in verses 48:23, 33:62, and 35:43. Hadith, on the other hand, is a report of the sayings, actions, or approvals of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). It is estimated that 70-80% of Hadiths are bil ma'na-where the meaning is preserved but not the exact words of the Prophet.
    Hadith apologists often argue that Hadiths are necessary to fill gaps in the Quranic revelation, but this is not entirely accurate. For instance, when it comes to the prescribed units of prayer (rak'ahs), no single Hadith or even a single collection provides the complete set of instructions. To arrive at the total count of 17 rak'ahs (2 for Fajr, 4 for Dhuhr, 4 for Asr, 3 for Maghrib, and 4 for Isha), one must refer to multiple Hadiths across different books. This suggests that there isn't a "gap" in revelation as some claim.
    Islamic theology is transmitted through the Quran, and the practices are preserved through continuous practical transmission-Muslims around the world have followed the Prophet’s practices daily since his time. Moreover, these practices aren't solely attributed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) but are rooted in the practices of the Prophet Ibrahim (peace be upon him), as indicated in Quran 16:123. Importantly, Islam was declared complete by God in March 632 CE, as stated in Quran 5:3.

  • @Nous98
    @Nous98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Thanks for another great and informative!
    More and more people should know the Quranist movement, and the whole contemporary reform movements within Islam.
    Since the media always painted Islam in a monolithic manner, these kind video is much needed.
    As I also consider myself a Quranist,
    I wanted to add some nuance to the issue you've said about the 'problem' arise from the Quran-only approach.
    First of all, the 'problem' must surely arise when we take the hadith and the whole traditionalist literature and its info out of the equation.
    But the 'problem' is actually exist because the equation is view through the lens of traditional Islam.
    If we embrace the Quran-only perspective entirely, there is no problem.
    But, yes, in actuality there are still some problems left; but it is not the same problem.
    For example - Ṣalah.
    If we take the traditional elements away from ṣalah, but still cling onto the traditional perspective,
    Question becomes: hwo can we establish the details of ṣalah from Quran alone?
    But if we take the Quranist approach, we can follow details of the ṣalah that exist only within the Quran, and proceed as it is.
    Also, the Quranist may examine further that the term ṣalah in the Quran, may denotes something other than a ritualistic prayer.
    And then this is the point when more questions will rise.
    May be some Quranists will conclude that the ṣalah may means any form of communion with God,
    Or make connection to God, or to uphold the law and commandment, etc.
    But that is the problem that exist and can be solve only within a Quran-only framework.
    I hope this make sense to you.
    Anyway, thanks again for spreading the knowledge.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Great points! Thanks for sharing! I think it's very interesting how people choose to interpret the Quranic teachings without reference to ahadith.

    • @aroncopeland6381
      @aroncopeland6381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not happening. Every single Sunni Muslim scholar in existence declares quranists as disbelievers, which they are. There's consensus in the matter.

    • @MARSHALL247365
      @MARSHALL247365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If your Quranist explain Surah Al Fil ( the elephant) for me in YOUR interpretation please ??

    • @anasm4496
      @anasm4496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Simple question. How do you do Ruku and Sujood in the Quran? The Prophet (SAW) warned us of you. Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal (RA) said: "A man who rejects a hadith (which is authentic) is on the verge of doom".

    • @chompythebeast
      @chompythebeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@aroncopeland6381 Sectarians don't get to tell people what others' faith is, no matter how many people within their sect may listen to them. There's no power of consensus of others that can take from someone their faith, no matter what power-hungry authorities or their groomed-to-be-narrow-minded flock think or want. Besides, Sunnis are not the only Muslims, anyway

  • @CCP-Lies
    @CCP-Lies ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The amazing science of Hadith
    Which eye is dajjal blind of?
    Ibn Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). made a mention of Dajjil in the presence of the people and said: Allah is not one-eyed and behold that Dajjal is blind of the *right eye* and his eye would be like a floating grape. Sahih Muslim 41:7005
    Hudhalfa reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Dajjal is blind of *left eye* with thick hair and there would be a garden and fire with him and his fire would be a garden and his garden would be fire. Sahih Muslim 41:7010

  • @confusion9000
    @confusion9000 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Having studied alchemy throughout times and places, I see all religions as leading to the One, just different semantics and understandings of the One through the frame of reference of the time and place of the people's trying to explain it. Some religious texts are just a little better than others in explaining it. Considering myself Muslim would be much easier without some of the Hadith, but there are parts of the Hadith that resonate with me deeply. I submit to the will of the One, and I admire Muhammad for everything he sacrificed to help humanity. Peace be upon him.

  • @TawsifEC
    @TawsifEC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great channel brother. Very nuanced and careful considerations.

  • @cecilrichardson2558
    @cecilrichardson2558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I find it very interesting that in almost every religion, there becomes a group that base Law, and social Tradition on the exact wording of the highest holy book.

    • @keeshans5768
      @keeshans5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      As it should be, we should only listen to the almighty, not words from man.

    • @Exxperiment626
      @Exxperiment626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@keeshans5768 Thank you!

    • @LORDJOSEPH12
      @LORDJOSEPH12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@keeshans5768 I'm a Sunni. But I'm just now finding out about Quranism. I'm definitely gonna be researching more

    • @coolcat2956
      @coolcat2956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LORDJOSEPH12 Me too!

    • @abdo19code
      @abdo19code 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LORDJOSEPH12 how did it go?

  • @beda3ty
    @beda3ty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Very excellent video! Regarding the problem of the hadith and rituals, many Quranists believe that it is not a problem to follow the hadith if it does not conflict with the Quran. Therefore, most rituals do not conflict with the Quran. What do conflict with the Quran in the Quranists belief are some more important aspects than just rituals.

    • @Hugulubugulu
      @Hugulubugulu ปีที่แล้ว +11

      We are not suppose to follow any hadith whether they are good or not, bcus Allah strictly told us to follow his Quran, as he left nothing out of it:
      [Quran 6:38] All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book.** To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.

    • @coffe2270
      @coffe2270 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hugulubugulu kafir

    • @Hugulubugulu
      @Hugulubugulu ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@coffe2270 Following Quran only makes you a true believer :P

  • @mustafahussein486
    @mustafahussein486 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am a Quranist. It is a relatively simple religion that relies on personal interpretations.
    What a great explanation! Keep up the good work!

  • @mfvieira89
    @mfvieira89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The Qua'ran as the only source of revelation seems similar to what the Protestant churches think regarding the Bible, in comparison with the traditional Catholic and Orthodox Canon

    • @justusscepticushumanus4848
      @justusscepticushumanus4848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd say ; it seems rather similar to " American Evangelicalism " than the protestants such as Lutherans or Anglicanism who are open to the idea that not always can the Bible be taken literary .

    • @mfvieira89
      @mfvieira89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justusscepticushumanus4848 yes, specifically you might be right

    • @MrBebaslepas
      @MrBebaslepas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mfvieira89 "The Qua'ran as the only source of revelation seems similar to what the Protestant churches think regarding the Bible"
      That statement is wrong and misleading.

    • @mfvieira89
      @mfvieira89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrBebaslepas If so, then explain why

    • @MrBebaslepas
      @MrBebaslepas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mfvieira89 The status of the Qur'an itself as a revelation, which is in a form of verbatim words of God, is incomparable to the Bible. Another revelations revealed to Prophet Muhammad which are not included in the Qur'an can be found in Hadith Qudsi.

  • @HyderAli-mz7uw
    @HyderAli-mz7uw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Hi Filip !
    Can you make a video about A sufi saint from Indian subcontinent 's city Jhang now in Pakistan, His name Was Sultan Bahu and his sufi order was Sarwari Qadri order and he was a hanafi Sunni and His Teaching was about Visualising Name of Allah and Prophet Muhammad s.a.w and About Faqr Spiritual Concept of Poverty...

  • @hamobu
    @hamobu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As a Muslim I used to wonder why do you need Hadith if Quran is perfect.

    • @NAvmz
      @NAvmz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well Hadith is a collection of sayings and teachings of the prophet Muhammad. It is the most important source of religious laws of Islam. Hadith are written by scholars who were born later than the Prophet, and there are differences in their memories, intellects and their interpretations of what the prophet said or gave approval. Hadith are ascribed to Muhammad Saheb and play an important role in the interpretation of Islamic laws.
      -Quran is the sacred writings of the faith of Islam revealed by Allah to Prophet Muhammad are contained in a book called Quran. The word Quran literally means recitation, and the book is a compilation of what the almighty revealed to Muhammad. Quran is the leading light of the Muslims around the world and it has been there for more than a thousand years helping adherents of Islam to lead a good and chaste life that is according to the commandments of the almighty. Obedience to these commandments in one’s life leads to salvation. Following the principles of Quran ensures a rich and rewarding life on this planet.

    • @falconx4803
      @falconx4803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If hadith was against the quran then that hadith is false because there's many of them , hadith is just what the prophet said but we are not sure if he said it or not because after the prophet muhammed died 200 years bukhari make those hadith by going to scholers and heard by them but still we can't be sure if he said it or not so what we have to do is if hadith is against the quran which the word of allah then it's very simple that hadith is false

    • @justak2121
      @justak2121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@falconx4803 not like the quuran wasn't full of contradictions anyway...

    • @farohszn9733
      @farohszn9733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@justak2121 yeah, the Quran has 0 contradictions.

    • @boringcoffedrinker1142
      @boringcoffedrinker1142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To reject the Hadith you would need to stop doing some of Islam practices

  • @tabuya6891
    @tabuya6891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The holy quran was compiled completed during the prophet time. "Bal huwalquranul majid fi lahwil mahfuudh".

    • @peterbillas9131
      @peterbillas9131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No kind quran exist

    • @Luffy.9757
      @Luffy.9757 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lawhil mahfud is another thing

    • @zaka2
      @zaka2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're so shallow

  • @HasanDoesMMA
    @HasanDoesMMA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Imam Maliks Al Muwatta is a book of Hadith's to an extent and is also authentic. He lived literally a generation after the Sahabah. In Medina where over 20,000 Sahabah had passed away.

    • @dlhussain81
      @dlhussain81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You’re talking to the modem jahils. They conveniently ignore the isnad system and keep talking about when hadith books were written on paper. They forget the Quran has also been passed on mainly orally until Abu Bakr RA decided to have it written down

    • @aliyanib
      @aliyanib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dlhussain81 Lol honestly, how stupid can they get? It seems to reach as high as the Qadianis and Rafidah.

    • @abdulbasit-cn9ek
      @abdulbasit-cn9ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dlhussain81 Historians has it that the Prophet used to have the revelations written on different materials as they came down onto him and later Abu Bakr had Zaid ibn Thabith gather those materials. That's unlike hadiths.

    • @dlhussain81
      @dlhussain81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abdulbasit-cn9ek correct. Hadith was never written down during the life of the Prophet ‎صلى الله عليه وسلم only Quran to avoid any confusion between the two.

    • @abdulbasit-cn9ek
      @abdulbasit-cn9ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dlhussain81
      I was responding to your claim that Quran reached abu bakr mainly by oral recitation.

  • @qerimqerimi2953
    @qerimqerimi2953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    MAY ALLAH SUBHANAHU WA TAALA BLESS YOU MY QURANIST BROTHERS AND SISTERS

    • @aslm5373
      @aslm5373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And may Allah bless you too if you accept all of the revelations of Allah, including the second commandment given to Moses which prohibits prostrating to the Kaaba like most "quranists" seem to be doing. You see quranists don't really seem to accept the previous scriptures when we should appreciate and believe in them too. Read verse 4:136 of the Quran, for example. That being said, I agree that the later hadiths that the secterians follow should be disregarded. The revelations of Allah is enough.

    • @johnnyjackson4159
      @johnnyjackson4159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Allah bless you

    • @StudiesoftheQuran
      @StudiesoftheQuran ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't say quranist, say muslim. Allah warned us about dividing.

    • @adoman3
      @adoman3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We are not Quranist, we are just Muslims.

    • @Gabriel-ServantOfGod
      @Gabriel-ServantOfGod 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aslm5373 Salam akhi.
      I take the Quran alone stance also, i wonder what we can accept tbh from what the sects claim are the "Taurat" and "Injeel".
      Because those are hadiths after all.
      And some clearly contradict the Quran.
      But i suppose you could scan them through the Quran to clean them from filth.
      The Quran also mentions the scrolls of Abraham... where are those? I saw a brother claim it's in the Quran and it made sense to an extent, very interesting topic.
      About the Kaaba, something to investigate, i must admit it is kinda odd tbh, but i fear criticising something Allah subhana wa taala might have ordained, perhaps not in the form they do it now but just to be around the house/temple and praise God and form community there.
      Peace

  • @AAZinvicto
    @AAZinvicto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Nice video, please also make a video on four schools of Jurisprudence in Sunni Islam (Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki, Hanbali)

    • @asifpkmohammed9451
      @asifpkmohammed9451 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😅😅It won't be that easy for someone just browsing the Internet only.

  • @GentlemanLife-Beyotch
    @GentlemanLife-Beyotch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Quran is the word of Allah, Hadith is the word of man, plain and simple.

  • @XhamimAhmed
    @XhamimAhmed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Please make video about history of all hadith and their authenticity. Now day it is a hot topic.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I do talk about it a bit in this video and in the video on Shariah, but I might dedicate a whole video to it! Thank you!

    • @englishexpert1989
      @englishexpert1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Shoaib Sheikh + Learn English

    • @epidemicproductions5014
      @epidemicproductions5014 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LetsTalkReligioncan you make it please

  • @faya6974
    @faya6974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I believe in hadiths aslong as it does not contradict the Quran. Many Hadiths contradict the Quran but they allow it!
    I also dont believe in any hadith that creates a law without a source from the Quran, like how some hadiths allow stoning of zina.
    Can you make a video about Naskh, its a subject I dont know much about even as a Muslim, and I hate the argument used in Naskh.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      That's an interesting subject! I'll add it to the list!

    • @TheQuranExplainsItself
      @TheQuranExplainsItself 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That makes the Hadiiths redundant. There’s no point for you to even claim it.

    • @jjaznawi
      @jjaznawi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Hadiths about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) knowing the future

    • @pmpm1841
      @pmpm1841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. But if the Hadith says don’t have anal sex, don’t eat animals with fangs or claws those are fine.

    • @yobro6053
      @yobro6053 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@jjaznawi prophet Mohammed was commanded to say by Allah " I know nothing about what will become of me or you " I am paraphrasing but he did not know the future , what use is telling someone the future to get someone to believe in you from an event that will happen 1000years later ? How could that man believe that prophecy when he is dead ? Also , Allah only commanded Mohammed to deliver the Quran and recite from it ,nothing else that's also from a verse but sorry I dont know the one

  • @paradhoax
    @paradhoax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Idjtihad = doing any good task ( in this case : studying a religious problem or any theological researches) activily and with a maximum dedication of time and energy and integrity

  • @fahmad7194
    @fahmad7194 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I had known one group in Lahore in the 1990s. They did not call themselves the Quranists, but they were sceptical of Hadith and critical of the Imams.
    They believed that the Quran provided all the guidance and information, including the performance of Salat, etc.

    • @thegrunbeld6876
      @thegrunbeld6876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If one only gets the instruction for salat from qur'an alone, it will greatly confuse them when they found out in one passage that Allah instructed Muhammad to pray in three times of the day (instead of 5). The hadith, while ripe with so many contradictions and possible accidental modifications, helps to contextualize those "confusing" passages.

    • @AfrahFatima214
      @AfrahFatima214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      are u talking about ghulam ahmed pervez?

    • @fahmad7194
      @fahmad7194 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AfrahFatima214 No. Their views bore similarity to the group described here as the Quranists. They did not call themselves that.

    • @fahmad7194
      @fahmad7194 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thegrunbeld6876 Actually, they did pray two or three times a day.

    • @RayB432
      @RayB432 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@thegrunbeld6876 so you're saying Quran mentions 3 daily prayers but you ignore what the Quran says and overrule it for the hadith?

  • @rainvast8982
    @rainvast8982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    So i'm a quranist without even knowing 🤣🤣

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doubt it... I'm sure you follow and accept the practises and wisdom of the prophet (saw)

    • @jebiden2025
      @jebiden2025 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@@skp8748Never. I don't follow humans, only God.

    • @Feller445
      @Feller445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We can have a convo about it if u want but being a Quranist is against the religion btw in the Quran is says o believers obey god and the prophet

    • @rainvast8982
      @rainvast8982 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Feller445 yeah i changed that was 2 years ago thank u brother, my god guide us to the truth

    • @sqyxlol
      @sqyxlol 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jebiden2025have u read the quran? It says to obey the prophet.. Which means the sunnah

  • @pixadavid
    @pixadavid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I suppose this is a similar division to that in Christianity between Tradition & Scripture vs 'sola scriptura'

    • @intrue5021
      @intrue5021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are the same stupidity by humans... nothing else! There are more proof of this : th-cam.com/video/ShaWeLvFjwk/w-d-xo.html

    • @tesmith47
      @tesmith47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, just like the protestant schism. Religion is such a waste of brain power

    • @anahata3478
      @anahata3478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes and just like protestantism, quranism is a complete anachronistic understanding of the holy scriptures

  • @Tibibt
    @Tibibt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Regarding the problem of rituals, I don't see the lack of detailed instructions on prayer in the Quran for instance as an issue. The reality is enough people watched the prophet pray that we don't need hadiths for that. And even then people still don't pray exactly the same way.
    The other reason is that Islam in reality was not meant to be hyper ritualistic but rather as the Quran tells us to provoke people to use Reason.

  • @daveanderson718
    @daveanderson718 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the detailed explanation. Much appreciate it. I had to ditch a long time girl friend because she was wacked-out extremist Hadithest. Come to find out she knew nothing about the Quran but claimed she was a Muslim....same with most of her family as well. And the weirdest thing was that "Shame" seemed to be the currency of her faith. She did things based upon whether it would have any shame associated with it or should I say she did weird things and then would hide in shame from her actions....which by the way to me, were not shameful in any manner. Not that other faith systems are perfect, but her version of Islam is majorly Fudged-Up. Of course I do wish her the best, but she is her own worst enemy.

  • @brucesims3228
    @brucesims3228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I pray that God who is All-Wise and All-Knowing will continue to guide your efforts. We need much more investigation and reflection regarding the Word of God. Reading the Hadith I have found far too much interpretation and waaay too much positing by individuals who profess to know God's Will and God's intentions. Dangerous stuff, that.

    • @DontKnow-hr5my
      @DontKnow-hr5my 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The same conclusion i came to as a german "christian" who started reading into Islam, there may be truth in them but the most dangerous lie is the one mixed with truth, we can't know for certain. May God/Allah guide us unto righteousness and forgive us our weaknesses.

    • @ibrahimkbrov4288
      @ibrahimkbrov4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*

    • @Shafiqulislam786
      @Shafiqulislam786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s why you study the Hadith and the Quran under the guidance ship of a qualified Scholar . Allah mentions in His book "Then ask those who possess the Message (ahl adh-dhikr) if you do not know." (Al-Qu'ran 21:7 and 16:43) the people who read on there own come out either extremist or confused Because every syllable of the Quran has a context and to understand it you MUST refer back to the Hadith, it is IMPOSSIBLE to understand the Quran without the Hadith of the messenger ﷺ . You can’t even understand Shakespeare’s works without a teacher how do you attempt to understand the book of the the creator without a guide.

    • @brucesims3228
      @brucesims3228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Shafiqulislam786 Agreed. What I fear are those who represent themselves as definitive authorities. IMHO fellow Human Beings can offer opinions. The Hadiths can be problematic. It is an article of my Faith that Allah (swt) is active in my life and answers can be had if only I ask. FWIW.

    • @Shafiqulislam786
      @Shafiqulislam786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brucesims3228 when Allah ‎عزوجل intends to guide or benefit someone, he directs them towards his righteous and guided people .

  • @gondala
    @gondala 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I remember clearly when I become more interested in Quran instead of hadith. It was when I was a kid, listening imam preaching in Friday prayer. I was very angry to and questioning God because I heard imam cite one hadith that mention about a person going to hell just because a simple mistake, that mistake is related to urinates. At that time I was just thinking, is it really worth for God punishing a man in hell just because that simple mistake? To me it doesn't make sense and He is not my God because my God is the most merciful most beneficent... Since then, I end up just believing Quran instead of what we call as hear say (hadith). Reading Quran as a pure human in your innocence age (as a kid) it was very influential and I am so happy I spent my younger years with that bless.. I am 42 y.o. now and so basically I am skeptical when someone cite a hadith which is baseless in Quranic teaching. However, if that hadith say something in Quran, I usually recognize it and listen to it. By the way, there's a bunch of non sense in Muslim today that is basically derived from hadith and not from Quran. However, when I say something and try to correct it, people got mad and judge me as I know nothing about this religion. Silly... But the most common question that I receive is the question like "how do you understand Quran if you don't accept hadith and you have no teacher?" To me, it is a fair question, but from my experience, the way i understand Quran is just like the story of Moses and his teacher. Moses can't be patience and always questioning his teacher. So, I actually don't know what Quran means in one ayah.. what I do is just try to remember it and be patience, and usually months after months or years, I finally get it. Indeed it is strange, but that's the way it is. I think the best Quranic interpretation that live today is Hassan Farhan al Maliki, his point of view is like crystal clear to me.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @ADeeSHUPA
      @ADeeSHUPA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LetsTalkReligion uP

    • @gondala
      @gondala 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Lube on my Tv technically speaking, those who have punished in the grave then he will receive punishment in hell. People believe in one ayah that says "they receive punishment twice...", which is considered as punishment in the grave and punishment in hereafter (hell).

    • @mt000mp
      @mt000mp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gondala i thought that hadith was a documentary in a book format that explain the quran and the life of sahabah and muhammad (s.a.w) in more in depth kind of version ,
      and i also know that the ahlul-kitab (the people of the book) like to twist word in the name of islam so iam also skeptical of hadiths.

    • @jenni_noura9170
      @jenni_noura9170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I'm also Quran alone believer. One sunni pointed out a hadith that I felt was hateful and utterly stupid. That at the end days the Arabs will fight against Jews and trees will talk to the Arabs and say there a jew hiding behind a tree. So kill it 🥴🥴🥴

  • @mariolis
    @mariolis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sounds a lot to me like the Catholic-Protestand divide on the apocrypha and church tradition
    Of course this is different , but it has parallels

  • @DontKnow-hr5my
    @DontKnow-hr5my 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a german who grew up as a catholic christian, who called the Trinity into doubt, started reading up on the arian thought, how the Apostle Letters and Church traditions deranged the original thought of christianity and added their own cultural additions, i have come to the conclusion by now that i view mainstream Islam and their hadith and certain cultural things, in the same way, there is so many nonsensical things in there, even things that go against the Quran, i came across some that really irritated me and started researching more into the matter because i had some genuine moments where i called it all into doubt, i do think Hadith nearly pushed me away from Islam. I got a completely different view of the religion once i decided that they are not on the same level of revelation as many mainstream Muslims like to paint them. Peace be to you!

  • @farizfasha2310
    @farizfasha2310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Well this is interesting, Al-Qur'an, though it may not explain in depth on some subjects, is the very basic foundation of islam, and the fact it's being memorized by some muslim and written in only one language help to keep the foundation the same no matter when it is, the hadith however is something that prophet Muhammad said or act, which unfortunately would be interpreted differently and understood differently depending on the person so it would be reasonable there's some doubt on that, however choosing to fully ignore the hadith and think that it's out of time is not entirely a good thing to do either.
    Take everything into moderation, and if you did question some stuff from the hadith discuss it with someone else before you make the choice, preferably someone that you're sure have more knowledge on the subject or at least of the same faith.

    • @cruyffssoul2397
      @cruyffssoul2397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      1. God characterised the Quran as the perfect book and said that it is made easy to understand. Not my words.
      2. Muslims who don't believe in the Hadith have the primary issue stemming from the idea that it's not divine and it is problematic to include it in a part of the OBLIGATORY belief system.

    • @rh7732
      @rh7732 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moses came with the Torah, what happened couple hundred years later? it was corrupted with the Talmud
      Jesus came with the Gospel, what happened couple hundred years later? it was corrupted with the Bible
      Muhammed came with the Quran. what happened couple hundred years later? Hadiths were created which corrupted the religion of Islam, the only difference is the Quran remains INTACT.

    • @StudiesoftheQuran
      @StudiesoftheQuran ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't the Quran say it's fully detailed?

  • @frankquinn7061
    @frankquinn7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Assalamuwalaikum Filip,
    Thank you for your good work - I looked at many of your videos and was intrigued especially since was in agreement with most of your summarization.
    I was wondering as to why you don’t have a video on Abdul Qadir Jilani. So that is my first request.
    My second request is the influence of the Sultan al Awliya upon the Sheikh al Akbar (Ibn Arabi) if/or conversely.
    My third request is the basis of the Isra Miraj from a Quranist and/or Ahle Hadith perspective - because it can have a fundamental impact on the scope of the teachings from this event.
    I sincerely hope you may be given the patience to continue your work.
    Walaikum Assalam wr, wb.

  • @bobofthestorm
    @bobofthestorm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The Quran is supposedly eternal or at least created by God himself, so it gets a pass.
    What I really don't understand is that how billions of Muslims around the world can go about their lives not questioning the Hadith at all. It's pretty much agreed upon by everybody that the Hadith is not the work of God AND was written by people from collecting people's testimonies. That's a huge, huge red flag. Have they never questioned the validity of the chain?
    The Gospels are presented as different versions of the same story from different sources. It is presented in that way precisely because people understood that people's memory could be faulty. The Gospels just coincidentally more or less coincided and reached consensus.
    The Gospels are presented as primary sources for people to judge on their own on how to make of them. The Hadith on the other hand was curated to present whoever collected them or is presenting them to reflect on what they deemed to have been legitimate events.

    • @TheQuranExplainsItself
      @TheQuranExplainsItself 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They won’t question the Hadiiths because that’s where the entire organised religion comes from.
      There’s no mosque 🕌 no hijab 🧕 no rituals no fasting nothing!
      Nothing arbitrary to recognise “Muslims” by.
      The Quran is just a book of universal principles hence why we conclude it’s from God.
      The universal principles could be followed by anyone so to distinguish Muslims and turn them into an organised religion with clerics n all the rest of it.... they gave them these narrations. Sad.
      Every time God sends a reminder this is what people do.
      People created stuff after Moses ( the Talmud ) Jesus ( letters of Paul ) and now Muhammad ( Hadiiths ) it’s the same old story.

    • @monamalek2
      @monamalek2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself Excuse me? Fasting in Ramadan was directly mentioned in Quran. 2:185, Also mosques 2:114

    • @TheQuranExplainsItself
      @TheQuranExplainsItself 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@monamalek2 neither mean those translations.
      Think about it....what’s the coming down of the Quran got to do with fasting?
      What context leads you to believe Masjid is a mosque?

    • @bilbobaggins3464
      @bilbobaggins3464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because hadiths were already incredibly questioned and tested. Most hadiths are not being questioned now because like I said, masters of hadith collection went to unimaginable, really impressive lengths to collect and question and grade these hadiths. It's not like they were accepted without questioning, on the contrary the Usul-al-Hadith, which is the method of compiling and grading hadiths is still really impressive as Western cultures at the time and until MUCH LATER times didn't have anything remotely similar to that scholarly practice.

    • @thienbachchuyenviengiuginh4773
      @thienbachchuyenviengiuginh4773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hadith is the source of terrorism.

  • @sadecassey2664
    @sadecassey2664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see that you cover Islam a lot! Can you do a segment on Islam in West Africa and the Baye Fall in Senegal?

  • @LeavingGoose046
    @LeavingGoose046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've never seen so many muslims on an English speaking TH-cam video's comment section. I find this very interesting.

    • @Marwan_og
      @Marwan_og 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most Muslims speak English perfectly, maybe I think you weren't exposed to videos which has the largest number of Muslim viewers

    • @LeavingGoose046
      @LeavingGoose046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Marwan_og Are you sure? Most of them don't live in an English speaking country.

    • @معلوماتتاريخية-ق6ث
      @معلوماتتاريخية-ق6ث 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeavingGoose046 most muslims know more than 2 languages

    • @LeavingGoose046
      @LeavingGoose046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@معلوماتتاريخية-ق6ث Fair, I don't know the statistics

    • @Marwan_og
      @Marwan_og 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeavingGoose046 yes, but the fact that English is used in everyday life and social media and in addition to the reign of English colonial history allowed for a greater number of people of people who learn the language.
      Same with me, I never lived in any English countries, yet I am capable of speaking the language

  • @torikahmed6708
    @torikahmed6708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I become Quranist after studying the verse 89 of Chapter 16

    • @munib1000
      @munib1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Beautiful verse, I like verse 90 following it too.

    • @munib1000
      @munib1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@user-lf3fz4kk1u You realise that message is for those people of the time, not us. We don't have any living prophets in our time, we only have the last prophets only miracle which was the Quran and most people don't even read it in their own language - truly a sad state to be in for Muslims. The Quran is Allah's word as a strict guide for mankind yet we have Muslims that will take hearsay of human chains of narrations about the prophet over the Quran. If you ask any regular person about their belief it will be a mixture of culture and hadiths hardly any will come from the Quran. I myself have had this fault thinking its words of Allah but were culture passed down from my parents.

    • @munib1000
      @munib1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@user-lf3fz4kk1u No offense taken. I watched the video it's the same scholarly narrative but can we trust the words of humans i.e the people around the prophet, how do we know the prophet said those things without him confirming today those 100,000 hadiths are true and genuine. We can safely rely on the Quran because it's been the protected words of Allah (15:9). Please try to understand the chains of narrations and how these sayings are passed down are all human transmissions we can't rely on humans to give us deen meaning taking human narrative on religion over Allah is foolish and will end you up in hell. The prophet was warned against speaking about anything apart from the Quran read Surah 69 verses 40 - 52 - this was a grave warning not to allow hearsay and narrations get into religion but here we are 1400 years later.

  • @vincentalmojera5412
    @vincentalmojera5412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Prophets pbuh farewell sermon. Muhammad pbuh said I leave behind me two things the Quran and The Sunnah and as long as you follow this you will never go astray.

    • @feevro
      @feevro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This Hadith has many different versions. The most reliable version is “ I lean behind me something they if you follow, you will never be misguided, the Book of God Quran”

  • @The-Submitters
    @The-Submitters 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Quran say that the best denomination is "The Submitters" (in Arabic: "Al-Muslimina"). See Quran 41:33 "Who can utter better words than one who invites to God, works righteousness, and says, “I am one of the submitters”?"

  • @cozycritics
    @cozycritics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    In this comment section you'll find a lot of pious Scholars that know everything about Islam yet not a single soul has contributed anything to the Ummah. May Allah Subhana Wata'ala have mercy on our souls and may Allah bless us with the companionship of our beloved Rasool pbuh and sahabas may Allah be pleased with them All.

    • @dlhussain81
      @dlhussain81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean perwezis? May those who disregard the Sunnah of the beloved Prophet ‎صلى الله عليه وسلم get their dues

    • @dlhussain81
      @dlhussain81 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ameen

    • @dlhussain81
      @dlhussain81 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sania Haque Walaikum 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @simplicityistheultimatesop6571
      @simplicityistheultimatesop6571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dlhussain81 Hadith is not islam,s best friend.

    • @dlhussain81
      @dlhussain81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@simplicityistheultimatesop6571 I don’t think you know what you are talking about

  • @NadDew
    @NadDew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I became quranist lately and because the Quran encourage you to think for yourself and always criticize the following of others without thinking so the way selfi teach is the opposite of what Quran teach in this regard.

    • @wahhajmustafa1907
      @wahhajmustafa1907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But the Quran itself tells you to follow the prophet (SAW). Yes, the Quran teaches you to think, and encourages you to think. BUT it doesn't tell you to "reject the hadith". There are verses telling you to follow your prophet. Now, another thing is, even if you think only logically, you'll still find that all the hadith are morally and intellectually correct, and logically you should follow them

    • @NadDew
      @NadDew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@wahhajmustafa1907 the problem with hadith its not 100% accurate. i believe in hadith mutaowater only but you can't confess me that we should decide someone live and judging him based on hadith there's 3% chance of it being not true.

    • @wahhajmustafa1907
      @wahhajmustafa1907 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just Me the sahih hadith and the Hasan Hadith are 100% true. We most certainly don’t judge using the weaker Hadith, we only judge based on the authentic ones. Now, if you wanna say even the Saheeh Hadith have a tiny percentage of not being true, you could apply the same logic, since the Quran too, was compiled long after the death of our prophet Muhammad (SAW)

    • @wahhajmustafa1907
      @wahhajmustafa1907 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And even if there is a chance of something having a 3% chance of it not being true, let’s suppose. That doesn’t mean we’re gonna reject the 97% chance of it being true. This way, you’ll have to start doubting everything. Every time someone tells you something, let’s suppose you ask your father or mother if they’re your real parents. And they reply that yes, we’re your real parents. They have legal documents, your birth certificate, even confirmation from the government etc. BUT there’s a 1% chance that it’s all a lie, and that your “parents” are just conspiring with the government, and are hiding your real identity. You could apply the same thing with ever single one of your friends. Each one could be a government agent spying on you, pretending to be a friend. See? The world starts to become more and more unsteady right? Soon you’ll be doubting if the world even is real and so on. Therefore, the logic that we shouldn’t judge someone on something that supposedly has a “3% chance of being not true”, doesn’t work

    • @NadDew
      @NadDew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@wahhajmustafa1907 so tell me why there's two levels sahih and hasan?? that mean they have different accuracy which means one is more accurate then the other thereof one is less accurate there is no way for both of them to be 100% true
      the other thing if you want to believe in any hadith you're free to do that but don't but someone fate and judges his live based on hadith ( for example stoning a man or a waman who committed Adultery to death based on not very accurate hadith)
      (or killing gay men based on what?? i can't remember any Quran phrase or even any hadith anywhere that tell us we should kill gays)

  • @djamalInfo
    @djamalInfo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    the Jews created the Talmud, Christians follow Pauls epistles and Muslims follow Hadiths.. All of them have done the same error.. leaving word of God and following man-made religions

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think st Paul did anything wrong I'm saying that as a muslim

    • @m.m4999
      @m.m4999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theguyver4934bro I think you haven't even read the Letter of Paul have you? I'm a Muslim too, please reconsider ur comment.

  • @makalo
    @makalo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    More videos about the Quranists please :).

  • @smirza860
    @smirza860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Living in united kingdom as a muslim I donot see any problem in practicing muslim religion and at the same time conforming to the law of land.
    The modern Govts like uk are capable of defending the rights of individuals from cradle to grave. The law of the land including the justice system is very complex that's why it can take care of demands of modern complex issues.
    So why the same justice system as in uk cannot be duplicated in a Muslim country .

  • @baniaz0
    @baniaz0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The traditional Quranist position has been based on questioning the *authenticity* of Hadith (e.g., the Tawfiq Sidqi quote in the video). Much of the 21st Quranist movement can trace its roots to Rashad Khalifa, who first made the argument questioning the *authority* of Hadith, based on the verses of the Quran itself. The verses that most contemporary Quranists frequently cite (including comment section here) to dispute the authority of Hadith come from "Quran, Hadith and Islam" published by Rashad Khalifa in 1982. Although many Quranists do not directly attribute this to Rashad, and reject some of his positions like messengership and the 19-based mathemetical structure in the Quran, the arguments he made in his work QHI are their most frequent source.

    • @Gabriel-ServantOfGod
      @Gabriel-ServantOfGod 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was wondering, because he has valid points, but i saw a video of his and later knew it was after his big claims, and he looked bad in my opinion, like arrogant and in general darkness in his face as they say (God knows best tbh), i didn't give it more attention, but later came to realize the Quran alone stance made sense, i revisited this topic, but being real i did test him, and i found false prophecies he made, like the king of Saudi one and the half prophecy on the smoke and 1990... and also they say he added to the Nun case to make it match the 19 code. (the 19 code is there, just like the 7 code and other numerical codes are, but he couldn't prove his claim which was that the 19 code was general and the function he claimed it provided)
      Believe in him or not.
      I think the Quran makes it clear that messengers can go astray (like Yunus alaihi salam), perhaps that's what happened, but Allah subhana wa taala knows best.
      Peace

  • @musamusashi
    @musamusashi ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As someone who's always very skeptic about any "ism", i feel Qur'an only Muslims or Qur'an only Islam is a fairer and less partial definition.

  • @SirfQuran
    @SirfQuran 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice one, just started a quranist channel and hope to see it grow with time. Hardly a decent quranist channel.

  • @MohammedLiswi
    @MohammedLiswi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing video. Thank you for your efforts

  • @AlfataAlfaet
    @AlfataAlfaet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what „Hadith“ حَدِيثٍ after Allah and His verses will they believe? [Quran 45:06]

    • @HasanDoesMMA
      @HasanDoesMMA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Marcus Aurelius
      Ok as a shi'i where is the concept of Hazrat Ali being successor of Prophet Muhammad (Salahu alayhi wasalam) in the Quran. Now that you can't use the Hadith's of Ghadeer e khum.
      Also where are the 12 imams mentioned in the Quran. Now again you can't use the Hadith's of their being 12 imams to come, Jaber Ibn Samorah said I went to the Prophet (P) and I heard him saying: “Indeed this matter will not be completed until there will be 12 Caliphs amongst them.” He then added something softly that I did not hear, so I asked my father about it who said: The Prophet (P) said: “They are all from Qoraysh.” (Muslim, Hadith No. 1821, Book of leadership).

    • @HasanDoesMMA
      @HasanDoesMMA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Paco Abdulqader
      It's says "statement " not Hadith's in the sense you lot are thinking of it

    • @HasanDoesMMA
      @HasanDoesMMA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How do your scholars make tafsir of the Quran , like on the verse
      "And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers." [2:192]
      We know why this verse was revealed but how do you Quran only people know when using only Quran

    • @HasanDoesMMA
      @HasanDoesMMA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @a stranger I wish it was that simple and we could all be Muslims, but cursing those who curse the Sahabah and those who honour them are not alike,

    • @HasanDoesMMA
      @HasanDoesMMA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @a stranger
      Being good and being on Haqq are two different topics. Bro it's a fundamental belief of the shi'i in the 12 divinely inspired Imams who hold a greater position than Prophets but the Prophet Muhammad Salahu alayhi wasalam and their imam Mahdi is hiding in a cave right now. Then the Quran only Muslims fail to understand the importance of the Prophets Salahu alayhi wasalam Sunnah and reject the Hadith's which they have not even studies the transmission for.

  • @MrBHallion
    @MrBHallion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Lol! I didn't know that I was a Quranist!

    • @abduladil7332
      @abduladil7332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @The Sufficient Qur'an Which Qirat of the Quran do you follow?

    • @Hamad56
      @Hamad56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How do you pray?

    • @taxevasion8946
      @taxevasion8946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. I am usually incredibly sceptical of the hadith. I get shit for it but I stand by it. Hadith can be easily manipulated for political gain. I'd rather trust the word of Allah (SWT) than something that can be manipulated so easily. I still agree with many hadith though.

    • @abduladil7332
      @abduladil7332 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@taxevasion8946 how do you read the word of Allah? Which qirat do you follow?

    • @abduladil7332
      @abduladil7332 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Shafin Saad same question for you?

  • @historyalwayslie
    @historyalwayslie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Al-Quran / [Surah Al-Isra, 17:89]
    " And indeed We have fully explained to mankind, in this Quran, every kind of similitude,
    yet most people persist in disbelief. "

  • @janvanwelvaart8334
    @janvanwelvaart8334 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fun thing: Imam Abu Hanifa could be considered as "Quranist" in early Islam period. Abu Hanifa is known for his Qur'an knowledge and his ra'y. If we traced back some literatures came from ahl-al-Hadith scholars, we find so many negative comments towards Abu Hanifa's ra'y (e.g. Sufyan al-Thawri, Yahya ibn Ma'in, even Ahmad ibn Hanbal). And we also find his funny critics about hadiths (I recommend you to read "Tarikh Baghdad" by al-Khatib al-Baghdadi for deep information about this). And we also find a book which was written by himself called "Al-'Alim wa al-Muta'alim", in which this book contains so many masa'ils (quests) and how he solves these masa'ils based on only Qur'an.
    But Imam Abu Hanifa now is considered as imam of sunna. We can sort 3 reasons:
    1. Because his legal decisions are not very contradictory to sunna traditions. But just to remember, his legal decisions is not because he relied on hadiths. It comes from his ra'ys and his Quranic problem solvings.
    2. Imam al-Shafi'i wrote so many praises to Imam Abu Hanifa. Even though he criticized Hanifite schools, but he considered Abu Hanifa wasn't totally wrong about his legal decisions.
    3. So many Abu Hanifa's pupils/disciples/followers fabricated so many riwayas claiming that Abu Hanifa's has positive attitude towards hadith and athar. One of later Hanifite scholar, Al-Shaibani, which had close relations to traditional schools during the end of Hanifite influence in ahl al-Ra'y, quoted so many fabricated Abu Hanifa's riwayas that claim Abu Hanifa has positive attitude towards hadith and athar. One of riwaya is well-known in the circle of Sunni scholars, that Abu Hanifa said: "I will not decide anything before an athar comes to me".
    Based on this historical fact, I considered Abu Hanifa's idea as "Proto-Quranism".

    • @Spadegaming321
      @Spadegaming321 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too much yapping

    • @janvanwelvaart8334
      @janvanwelvaart8334 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Spadegaming321 You can check by yourself

    • @Spadegaming321
      @Spadegaming321 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then how did Abu Hanifa tell us to pray salah?
      This is the same thing sufis do, Ibn Taymiyah destroyed all their ideologies but he praised 1 or 2 Sufis in his lifetime so sufis today call him a sufi
      And now you are calling Abi Hanifa a Quranist 💀

    • @janvanwelvaart8334
      @janvanwelvaart8334 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Spadegaming321 You should not compare Abu Hanifa's Quranism thinking with modern Quranists today. Do you realize that Salah itself has variations in the hadiths. What you know today about Salah is a fiqh elaborations and fixed consensus centuries after centuries. But, in the time of Abu Hanifa, it was debatable. So many ways of Muslims praying. Abu Hanifa lived in Kufah. Do you know, that Abu Ishaq al-Sabi'i (prominent Tabi'in for Sunni) lived in Kufah, and he has mosque there namely the Mosque of Abu Ishaq. He has so many pupils/disciples, and guess what. He has Shiite pupils there. He then established one of his Shiite pupil as imam salah for Sunnis and Shiites. If you read fiqh today, it's haram to be ma'mun (leaded salah) by Shiite imam. But back then, it was normal for Shiite and Sunni pray/salah together in one mosque and be imamed by Shiite. By this reason (and many other reasons which I can't tell you one by one, you must search classical kitabs by early Muslim scholars), historians put salah as something more diverse in the early Islam period and there was no consensus about how to salah as we have today.

    • @Spadegaming321
      @Spadegaming321 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@janvanwelvaart8334 no, the shias during the time of the salafs prayed like we do but the Farsis corrupted their book and changed their way.

  • @zazugee
    @zazugee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    About Hassan Farhan Al-Maliki, i don't think he consider himself to be a pure Quranist, but in a sense yes he consider Quran to be supreme to Ahadiths, for example, his theories about how majority of early muslims were in fact hypocrites is derived from Quran and he consider that the abondonance of stories from ahadith, but not just the ones attributed to the prophet but also from his companions (and unlike the traditionalist sunnis who consider most companions to be infallible even tho theorically they don't but they practically treat them as saints )
    those stories and naration have distored the original message of the Quran, so yes in this sense he argues same as Quranists
    but one distinction is that he don't throw all tradition out of the window, like extreme Quranists, he accept ahadiths that follow and agree with Quran

    • @j_sr3608
      @j_sr3608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "consider most companions to be infallible"
      Yes, because 99% Muslims are only told what happened during prophet PBUH's life. The not so glorious history of 1st and 2nd fitna is completely ignored and history starts again at the end of 3rd fitna When Imam Hussain RA was assassinated. Apart from the messangers, everyone is fallible, make mistakes so you learn the difference between good and bad, that's the whole point IMO.

  • @sedameansstrong
    @sedameansstrong ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think we need to truly ponder on Islam vs. how muslims practise it, after all, the Qu'rans main topics include what Jewish and Christians did wrong. It all boils down to their cultural beliefs and whims becoming their priority over the revelations. And I see that happening with hadiths. And also it was a mistake that scholars took to much authority. Again: we have that problem in the Ummah. We should be terrified and extremely cautious as muslims to commit the same mistakes as jewish and christians, and the solution is to always get back to the Qu'ran, always refer to the Qu'ran first. I would go as far as to say, that if something remains unclear, to seek answers in the previous revelations of what could have been meant. If the Qu'ran says the Torah and Gospel and Psalms are legit in their original forms, and Allah calls its followers "the people of the book", then we have valid reason to refer to them. We do not have much of a reason to refer to hadiths though, except we could consider them as mere informations.
    I wouldn't go as far as to say "throw away all hadiths", but I would strictly distance myself from rules and claims in them, that are not specified in the Qu'ran. We do not live in the time of the Prophet (saw) and we cannot confirm that he ruled what hadiths claim that he ruled, if it isn't mentioned in the Qu'ran.
    And if I am not mistaken, hadiths are also what the Qu'ran warns us of.
    They are way to culture oriented and "authentic" or not, they terribly contradict.

    • @RayB432
      @RayB432 ปีที่แล้ว

      Theyve distorted the religion beyond recognition from its intended form. The manipulation isnt even subtle, its blunt. Just look at their belief regarding the black stone of Ka'ba - a circumvention marker - this stone has taken upon idolatry worship. The Shahada - declaration of Gods Oneness - has an "AND" in it, theyve associated the Prophet with Gods Oneness. The Quran says recite the Quran during prayer, they talk to Muhammad PBUH during prayer. Quran states the 4 Sacred Months are in sequential order and end at the end of the year (9,10,11,12) .... yup they messed this up too (11,12,1,7). Quran AND hadith makes it clear the Quran waa completely compiled as a Book during the Prophets time, theyve made abu bakr and usman their messenger and the Quran today is referred to as Usman Codex.
      The Quran states this Book contains no doubts, they invented qirats, ahrufs, goat ate verses, devil verses, stoning verses ect. Quran says the Words of your Lord are PERFECTED in Truth and Justice, none can change Gods Words .... they abrogated the verses for justification of hadith. Quran says do not divide into sects...well to them sunnism is not a sect.
      What haven't they screwed up? Their Islam is not Islam, its hadithism associating with Islam.
      Islam is Quran. The fact is they could not alter the Quran because God promised us Divine Protection of Quran so they invented hadith and tried to mess up the sanctity of Qurans preservation-goat ate verses ect. The Truth is still there, we're just left dealing with these dirty pagans running the narrative of representation. The manipulation is rampant even within the translations, i advise reading with multiple translations and translate verses yourself as much as posible. You'll be astonished at what you discover.
      They could not alter the Quran - that is all the conciliation and assurance i can provide and thats all you need!

  • @jasonGamesMaster
    @jasonGamesMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't know if this is a greater movement under a different name or just a weird quirk of my grandma's Appalachian Non-Denominational Church (if you are not familiar, these are rural churches that, basically, have no doctrinal tie to any denomination and are often a weird mishmash of Christian theologies). She called the church a "Jesus Only" church, meaning that they ONLY regarded the New Testament as true and accurate, with a focus on the 4 Gospels. I'm an atheist, so most of my knowledge of religion is academic not "boots on the ground" so I don't know if that is a larger movement, but if so, that would be very interesting.

    • @user-hh2is9kg9j
      @user-hh2is9kg9j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It could be the Protestantism the Muslim world needs.

    • @lakulo27
      @lakulo27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Appalachian non denominational Church" gives me an image of speaking in tongues and handling venomous snakes

    • @jasonGamesMaster
      @jasonGamesMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lakulo27 speaking in tongues definitely happened there the few times I went with her, but they were definitely not snake handlers... HOWEVER because of the nature of the thing, some of those types of church are

    • @chendaforest
      @chendaforest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isnt the old testament Jewish? 🤔

    • @Gabriel-ServantOfGod
      @Gabriel-ServantOfGod 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jasonGamesMaster Tbh, it's kinda funny after reading the Quran and some of the gospels.
      Since some of the gospels resemble hadiths so much, on how they contradict each other and whatnot.
      Or how Jesus peace be upon him is a demigod kind of figure in John (let's not talk about Revelation) but not so much on earlier gospels...
      I see the comparison, but they are not the same at all, and as some said, this resembles Protestantism more in general. (Salutation to any Unitarian Christians reading)
      Peace

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    So this is what happens when Islam goes Sola Scriptura.

    • @c5quared626
      @c5quared626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Timothy McCaskey ditto. The Latin nomenclature given connotes ignobility or rebellion I feel, is there a historical Roman context on that? Nevertheless I have not felt better after accepting this logical ideology and started linguistically getting into the Quran and finding how different it is from the traditional interpretations, many basic words have been misconstrued through history to the point where the modern lexicon has adapted to these misinterpretations.

    • @RedRiverMan
      @RedRiverMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      LOL!!!! I was thinking the same thing with my Catholic mind.

    • @user-k229
      @user-k229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@c5quared626 Totally agree.
      Many words have had there true Arabic meaning distorted when translated. Examples that come to mind: Salat, Sajdah and Malaikha.

    • @c5quared626
      @c5quared626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@user-k229 those are staple words. many other words were used very sparingly. the persian scholarship who basically co opted the religion just guessed (by that time sahabas were killed off or died) then used fallacious hadith to back up theirs or their dad/teachers claims. Looking at the hadith today, it would be naive to accept them as canon. Most were obviously made up just to settle the argument of the current time.

    • @Ricky-oi3wv
      @Ricky-oi3wv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The hadith recount the ministry of Mohammed, the Koran his revelation. Both are scripture. A comparison to the koranists would require a Christianity without the ministry of Christ. Which makes even less sense. The comparison with the vestigial practices of the Roman Church might better be found in the innovations and contrivances of the Muslim small sects, where tradition and novel belief have become part of the belief system, if indeed such crude comparison can ever be useful.

  • @farouqomaro598
    @farouqomaro598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The early practise reflected the universal nature of Islam

    • @ibrahimkbrov4288
      @ibrahimkbrov4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *Al-Ankabut 51. Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book, ˹which is˺ recited to them. Surely in this ˹Quran˺ is a mercy and reminder for people who believe.*

    • @farouqomaro598
      @farouqomaro598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ibrahimkbrov4288 👍

  • @ahsamv1992
    @ahsamv1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    that is the true islam

  • @no_more_anymore
    @no_more_anymore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is like protestant's Sola Scripture.

    • @MohamedYoussef.7
      @MohamedYoussef.7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really.

    • @topv1553
      @topv1553 ปีที่แล้ว

      Qoranisme rejecting hadith is like christians rejecting the letters of Paul or ews rejecting the Talmud

  • @IssamMbarek
    @IssamMbarek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We love you man 🇹🇳

    • @awebb4868
      @awebb4868 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I ma in Tunisia too!

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really like your videos, they are very well researched and unbiased. I used to be a Quranist Muslim, and as such, I felt also close to the Ibadis, but to me the Shias are kind of ok, except for their quasi-messianic beliefs. However, the Sunnis are in my opinion the ones who destroyed Islam, seeing as how they forced Muslims to abandon reason, brought forth an era of ignorance, and gave rise to the totalitarian wahhabi version.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That's not really fair. Sunnis have also been responsible for some of the most significant intellectual developments in history. We should avoid equating the wahhabis or other "modernist" interpretations with Sunnism historically, as they are often very different.
      But above all, rule number one in the study of religions is that all religions (and even movements within religions) are internally diverse. It's very hard and problematic to make any blatant statements like that. Even if it can seem tempting.

    • @kuroazrem5376
      @kuroazrem5376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LetsTalkReligion actually, most of the intelectual development was carried out by Mutazila, Shia, and other thinkers, whereas most traditionalists (from which Sunni Islam derives) opposed science and reason. One needs to look no further than Al Ghazzali himself and his virulent attack on philosophy.

    • @Anverse-14
      @Anverse-14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kuroazrem5376 I think you're mistaken on this one. Al ghazali rebuke philosophy, while being a philosophist himself. It's a matter of perspective. I have read some more reviews about it, but unfortunately I may have forgotten some details.
      Mate, what devolve Islam at the modern age is the combination of back - handed deals and opportunists. What happens next is the fault of everybody involved.

    • @anasm4496
      @anasm4496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kuroazrem5376 Ahlul Sunnah is the largest part of Islam and the main stream. And it is impossible that the mainstream of this Ummah will go astray.

    • @kuroazrem5376
      @kuroazrem5376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@anasm4496 The Quran has something different to say.
      "And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah . They follow not except assumption, and they are not but falsifying" (6:116).

  • @salahudheenayyoobi3674
    @salahudheenayyoobi3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Seriously watching all episodes, all are very interesting.,🙏🌹

  • @OrganizedChaosRabiahAhmed
    @OrganizedChaosRabiahAhmed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please do a video on the Sunni fiqhs and how they differ from each other

  • @EagleEye1111
    @EagleEye1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    [11 : 114] And establish prayer at the two ends of the day and at the approach of the night. Indeed, good deeds do away with misdeeds. That is a reminder for those who remember.

    • @EagleEye1111
      @EagleEye1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      [110 : 3] Then exalt with praise of your Lord and ask forgiveness of Him. Indeed, He is ever Accepting of repentance.
      [Al-Fatiha]
      [Al-Ikhlas]

    • @EagleEye1111
      @EagleEye1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      [3 : 16] Those who say, "Our Lord, indeed we believe, so forgive us our sins and protect us from the punishment of the Fire,"
      [3 : 17] The patient, the true, the obedient, those who spend and those who seek forgiveness before dawn.
      [17 : 78] Establish prayer at the decline of the sun until the darkness of the night and the Quran of dawn. Indeed, the recitation of dawn is ever witnessed.

    • @Guyanababoo217
      @Guyanababoo217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your purpose of posting this?

    • @Guyanababoo217
      @Guyanababoo217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you know what portion of the night "isha" is? Can you explain why your isha timing contradicts the Quran?

    • @mohamudahmed6554
      @mohamudahmed6554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Guyanababoo217 Leave him, he already got refuted.
      He literally said that Sunnis or Ahl Hadith do the following
      1. Make Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam a IDOL (Audhubillah). Why?
      2. Because we say his name in Shahada.
      3. We send Salawat on him.
      4. We copy him..
      Literally gave him verses of the Quran where Allah says to send Salawat on the Prophet, that he is a good example for us if we want the Mercy of Allah and Allah says clearly in the Quran that Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam is the Messenger of Allah.
      So you see, these people do not know the Quran at all.

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Before watching this, my first thought is _Sola Scriptura_ instead of the Roman Catholic "Scripture plus apostolic tradition".
    2:18 I was right... :)
    7:02 This *is* Islamic _Sola Scriptura._

    • @astroflyinsights
      @astroflyinsights 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the Xtian denoms tho, SS still follow the Councils eg the Nicean Creed is recited at the beginning of Lutheran services. If you could get a scripture from James and Peter pre-Paul (ie the originals) you'd be on to something.

  • @adamkhan7469
    @adamkhan7469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do one on Alcohol in the Islamic world, I'm sure lots of people would be surprised.

  • @karlG3375
    @karlG3375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thx for video. When I studied Islam 10years ago I stumbled upon this Quranist group. I compared the 2 in their arguments, but found that the Hadiths where crucial when explaining sertian events and "laws" in the Quran.
    And the Hadiths are divided in groups by the scholars more or less as Reliable, Doubtful, Not Reliable. Order is important in the Traditional Islam.
    The Quranists approach I feel want a more relaxed Islam.