Should YOU take TESTOSTERONE?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
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Notification crew where you guys at?! :) What questions do you have about testosterone and what do you wanna hear about next?
Jordan Feigenbaum well I don't want to ask any questions yet because if you answer them in the podcast that would make me look silly lol
I'd love to hear about your guys warm ups and the warm ups you do for your clients, like foam rolling and why not to static stretch.
Once when asked about hormones in milk you brought up IGF-1 being a peptide hormone, which is broken down in the stomach/duodenum therefore not bioavailable. However what do you think about steroid hormones in milk e.g. estrogens/progesterone (which are orally bioavailable)?
I have a hard time wrapping my head around the chicken-or-egg situation regarding adipose tissue/aromatase and low T... Someone with low T will be predisposed to packing on fat, right? But then the fat will increase aromatase and it gets worse, right? Where do we start?
Since you just made the case for its importance, I'd love a Two Minute Tuesday on sleep hygiene next. Great stuff, thanks for the video!
Dude how do you guys not have more subscribers your content is unreal
Help spread the word!
They are too nuanced for the hiveminds of social media who only prefer absolute statements
this is by far the most underrated channel in all of the youtube fitness community
Nuance and chill
Ive been in the medical field since 2010 , and am a new critical care RN. It is so refreshing to finally follow people who critically think, and speak my language on TH-cam! Great podcast, and I’d be lucky to work with MDs like yourselves any day of the week!
Thanks, Brandon and we'd be lucky to work with you as well!
I've seen a lot of guys, even young men, almost paranoid about their testosterone levels, almost as a BroScience anxiety.
"Gear for me not for thee"
Got it, Doc!
Loved it, you and Austin cut out a bit sometimes but great content and important content. Every lifter should watch this new or advanced.
Can you please talk more about the negative effects of PEDs, and maybe the pros/cons specifically in terms of physiologic changes, etc?
Finally , MD’s who treat the whole person , and not mask the symptoms with big Pharma👌👍, or only as a last resort
Can you discuss the effect of finasteride/ dutasteride on the body and testosterone and on performance if there is any
Doc , how about a podcast on insulin resistance and people with adrenal insufficiency 👌👍
Right next to this video in my youtube feed Vice posted: "Juiced Up - The Consequences of Steroids: Swole" only one hour earlier. It's a more short form bro oriented, but it definitely shows the psychological addiction of getting body builder jacked.
Austin mentioned a book/short story about the physical handicapping of individuals in a dystopian future. A great short read about that is "Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut. Great stuff guys, keep up thee awesome content!
Good ear :) Thanks, Daniel!
Had all my blood work checked last year after I turned 40. I requested testosterone as well because I figured It would be appropriate given my age. I never had any low T symptoms. My energy levels were are always high, and no ED. The only thing I had been noticing were brain fog and moderate hot flashes. My T was tested 2-3 times before my doctors agreed to do anything. Each time my total T never got above 272 ng/dl. After testing my LH and FSH they determined I was secondary hypo. I had a head MRI which came back negative. I've been taking clomid 3 times per week at 12.5mg per day for the last year and my T levels have stayed in the 600-650 range ever since (I have blood work repeated every 3-6 months). I don't feel any different at 600 compared to the 270 range I was at before, but I have noticed my performance in the gym has improved slightly. Just thought I'd share my experience.
If you don't feel any different, why keep taking it? Seems like you can save the cost, hassle, and side effects. In the previous vid, the docs mentioned normal can be as low as 250.
Saving lives by keeping people informed. Although this is anecdotal, it shows that it's not so simple.
So your saying the sick gainz are worth it?
I have one testicle did surgery. My levels are 380. I live like a strength athlete. My biggest achieve went is 80 kg ohp at 80kg bw. Height 188. But low motivation and fatigue most of the day. Age 26. I am considering trt but not sure. Note: before I lost my left nut I had much higher energy and libido. My waist is small.
For anyone interested, I'd guess the dystopian short story Austin is referring to is Kurt Vonnegut's "Harrison Bergeron."
kjaSGFUYHGVUHIBKGH That’s the one.
35:26 I think he's trying to say Caster Semenya - of South Africa.
Cold showers or ice packs on balls relation to testosterone? I just want to clear things in my head.
Bozkurt 1071 no effect
What up J, I know competitive powerlifting isn’t at the helm of your priorities but I’m curious have you/would you ever consider “running a cycle” with PEDs. Both in the context of medical necessity (in terms of testosterone) and just for pure competition.
Jordan would you consider covering the topic of recomposition? Not sure if you already have. If so, could you direct me to the video? And by recomposition I mean eating at maintenence and trying to get stronger/leaner at roughly the same bodyweight.
Where did you buy those sweet pillows?
I think they're from World Market....lol.
Awesome as Always 👌👌
Thanks Tommy!
Hi Dr. Feigenbaum & Dr. Baraki, I am a shift worker utilizing Melatonin to allow better sleep during the daytime and was wondering if taking up to 15mg daily would affect a persons testosterone levels?
great podcast!!! :)
This question doesn't relate to Testosterone but is still something i am interested to learn.
I help coach trampoline performers. The focus on explosive strength in the legs is really important to enhance time of flight so, how would you condition the training of strength to be more specific to explosive leg strength?
My thoughts would include things like the power clean...
Could you answer with relevance to higher end performers.
Up NDown plyometrics, speed work with deadlift, squats, powercleans are great if people can do them properly. Unfortunately it's not very easy to pick up for the average person.
Tristan Mallaly I’d skip the plyos and speed work, as the athletes are getting enough of that in practice. I’d have the untrained athletes do Starting Strength novice linear progression initially
That is what i was thinking as most athletes train a lot on the trampoline. With high end athletes that haven't done any strength training would you still start them with the SSLP? To give you some context, i know a young performer that is competing at national levels, with high skill level on trampoline but has not done any strength training, only calisthenic type conditioning.
Hey Drs
Do SSRI meds affect test production?
Is this from before Semenya was revealed to have a Y chromosome?
At about 44 minutes, Jordan mentions that steroid use has a permanent positive effect on neuromuscular function. Is this true? I have a rough understanding that there are permanent positive effects on strength and muscle mass due to the fusing of a greater number of muscle-cell myonuclei but I always assumed that the positive neurological changes from steroid use would be transient (only exerting a positive effect when supra-physiological quantities of steroid hormones were present in the body). Could you elaborate on this in a future discussion?
Question: Is there a guideline to what "low T" even is? I mean Low T can be assumed by the doctor because there isn't any guideline that lists what low T is. I watched "Bigger Faster Stronger" and almost ANYONE can get testosterone and this feels like cheating vs "getting back on the same field"
A less personal question, what in God’s name is the difference between all the various drugs (trenbolone, winstrol, benaffleckabinol, etc.) and their effects. Do you guys have any experience coaching individuals on this stuff and what was it like? Austin do you need a cat sitter?
Is surgery for gynecomastia going to affect the chest muscle in any way? (Strength or Hypertrophy potential) Great podcast by the way you guys are the best!
Depends on the extent of the procedure.
In a word, no. The gynecomastia is in the soft tissues above the muscle fascia(fibrous covering). Male breast cancer is another story.
What about those guys on clomid, when despite the spike of total testosterone numbers they still are suffering from hypogonadal symptoms?
Is Steroids worth taking? You said just one cycle could have permanent effects on muscle mass if so it seems it could be a good thing
What is your opinion on jefferson deadlifts? even using half of my 1rm on normal deadlifts (using jefferson) i "feel" that it might be a good movement that has a ton of carryover to deadlifts. I do them both, i know there is training specificity, and that i'm not optimizing my performance, but do you think this is perfectly fine for muscle growth? My abdominals are sore even, they consistently get sore(from jefferson, not conventional), i know that doesn't indicaite much but the fact that theyre sore when ive always been DLING and squatting means theyre probably getting a different stim.
Also, this doesn't mean i'm going to change what i do, i do enjoy jeffersons more than deadlifts therefore i will do them along side deadlifts, i'm just curious though.
Lastly, i don't plan on competing.
I asked austin this aswell.
I think they are a poor use of training time if wanting to improve your regular deadlift. I think from a hypertrophy standpoint it's WAY suboptimal.
Thanks for the advice, I'll switch back to lifts that are more conventional.
Hey guys! What steps can I take now to optimize hormone levels after experimenting with anabolic PEDs as a younger, stupider man? Sleep and nutrition will be adequate?
If it was a long time ago, e.g. >6 months, you're probably fine now.
Jordan Feigenbaum thanks a lot! I appreciate all the info. I can’t wait to see you guys at the SS seminar in February if either one of you will be there.
I went to do 95% of my 1rm for two reps today on deadlift. first rep went up fine, wasnt even hard, the second rep couldn't move. my grip started giving out and i let down the weight... i can do 1 arm hangs equaling around 30% more of my deadlift weight for 10 seconds.
Anyone know what the hell is up? My body feels like it's stopping me from lifting it when i can actually do so.
Lots of supposedly knowledgeable people say that grip failing when it shouldn't is a sign of fatigue debt. Some even say "cns fatigue" but maybe that's not as "real" as many people think. It may not even be a "real thing." Anyway, maybe you're not recovering as well as you need to. I'm not a pro though. It's worth looking into and not taking an internet nobody's word for it.
Is there any meta analysis on mortality rate and TRT or testosterone in general
vteam02 yes
By a certain age (individually based on amount of androgen receptors, etc.), is it inevitable that a man will become hypogonadal with symptoms and should be on TRT? Is it possible that a 70 year old man or even older should not be on TRT? Thank you for your most excellent work! :)
Not necessarily, though many are.
is gainzzzrx administered transdermally or intra-muscluarly
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so isnt The WSM is the all drug olympics
What percent or ratio of the population would be a candidate for TRT with no symptoms other than lowT.
brokenstitch that’s in research right now but definitely not been proven or standard of care. There are multiple different takes on that situation
Not sure I would treat someone with asymptomatic low testosterone, though I may work them up further to identify a cause.
You talk about testosterone replacement being prescribed without proper testing, but isn't that an internal problem between you and your peers and not a problem with the unwashed masses?
Man, I thought you said therapeutic lobotomy.
I heard that too.
Who decorated your home?
A woman named Jodi. Beachy isn't it?
What testosterone delivery method do each of you use and why?
Neither of us take testosterone.
Nuancegonadals don't need any.
No need just yet.
If someone is low within the normal range (eg 400), is there any point of trying to increase it? For example eating a lot of bacon just to get it to 600, is that gonna improve training performance?
Barkotek Nope :)
Barbell Medicine that's quite groundbreaking in the world of 'boost your test naturally' hype
Yea- pretty much any article suggesting the important of naturally boosting your testosterone within the normal range should point out to you that the author is NOT to be trusted.
Do you have symptoms are you just chasing numbers?
Do you know of any doctors who are looking for assistants to apply transdermal steroids to patients all day?
Asking for a friend.
My understanding (and it has been years since biology class) is that there are male and female humans and then there are those with a diagnosis of a problem. So (and you are the doctors here) Jaime Lee Curtis had a chromosome issue and was treated for that and that is a biological issue. Then there is "gender dyshporia" and that is a psychological problem which can also be diagnosed. Bradly Manning can have his nuts cut off, doped with estrogen and whatever, have a rubber vagina installed, but will still be a man. A deeply disturbed man, but a man. I trust you doctors when you say a person has a genetic dysfunction but I'm going to keep my own when somebody simply wants to change their sex.
Casting couch...
It's kind of hard to believe that they don't cover what male and female are in medical school. Chromosomes and stuff...frank and beans...vaginas etc.
That is an incomplete definition of what is "male" and "female". which is why there is more Nuance™ there.
what kind of bourbon is that? out of curiosity? ha..
Weller :)
Compare this podcast with this one,
th-cam.com/video/_5Jfxoizn-4/w-d-xo.html
Another two good well informed men, Rip and Campbell, but they weren't mentioned in this podcast. You'll know them once you click on that link. "Starting Strength Radio"
They are an author and the best trainer so far who speak more freely; IN MY OPINION, without the cover-your-ass speech doctors who are liable to be sued tend to use. But these docs here are too well informed to not know what these two other men here are talking about.
A eunuch on hormone therapy is not a woman.
Lots of my friends are transitioning (female to male) using testosterone. I notice that if they don’t weight train as well they put fat on around the midsection. Does high testosterone increase midsection fat?
No
I see all that bagging on female athletes. After seeing a lot of them, I don't see a level of muscle or ability not achievable through hard work and diet from many of them. It's ridiculous. These lamers see the vascularity and assume they're huge. Most of these female athletes are fairly small, but in amazing shape with low body fat.
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nathan rafuse lame