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  • Every year, thousands of thoroughbred racehorses end their careers and become economic liabilities to their owners. What happens to former stakes winners who are no longer profitable?
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  • @bethfornaro9383
    @bethfornaro9383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Wow just wow . The original owner still running him at 10 and careless enough to throw him in a claiming race? What a freakin jerk.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You have a mistaken idea about claiming races. They put the horse in because of the condition book which lays out the horse's age, how many wins he has or has not had, the weight he will carry, the distance of the race, etc..... and if it's a claimer. You take your chances that no one will claim him and sometimes you luck out. Then sometimes someone gets him. I knew a horse that got claimed back and forth by the same two trainers several times because they both liked him so much. It's also a good way for a first-time owner to get a horse.

    • @libertynow4047
      @libertynow4047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      watchgoose Many “first time owners” don’t know crap about horses. They don’t talk about the thousands and thousands of horses that are put down or sold for slaughter in Canada and Mexico for food. They also didn’t talk about how they are treated during their racing careers. Hot food, drugs, stall bound 23 hours a day, tying their tongues so they don’t choke on it, harsh bits. And those are the lucky winners. The losers, which are most are treated like garbage. Hopefully one good thing about corona virus is that more racetracks will go out of business.

    • @bethfornaro9383
      @bethfornaro9383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@watchgoose Actually, I understand how it works. The owner opted to "take that chance" which in my opinion is utterly despicable. Also despicable is continuing to race a 10 year old. Let the horse have a second career, or retire it already. I used to be a racing super fan but lately I have become more and more disgusted with the treatment of the horses. I've owned and shown OTTB's as an ammy and they can be wonderful sport horses. Too many end up badly because of racing, and being taken advantage of as they are seen as cash machines. I worked at a track for a short time. I've seen some things I wish I hadn't. Racing can be the ruination of a very nice horse.

    • @villarreal6
      @villarreal6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@libertynow4047 santa Anita was averaging 700,000 a race for 3 weeks straight also another record.

    • @wolfgang4043
      @wolfgang4043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No idea where the logic of such a race is. You're asking to loose a horse. This woman is just like the rest of them. That horse got her a million so now she can stuff her bra with $$$ and she's not kind enough to retire it? 2000 per year is too much for her to pay? I know this isn't her only horse. She'd say it's too expensive.

  • @DoubleDogDare54
    @DoubleDogDare54 8 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    If the owner of Tour of the Cat was so concerned about the welfare of the horse after he was claimed, why didn't she make an effort to get him claimed by a trainer who would return him to her or buy him out-of-pocket off the track herself? The horse won over a million bucks for her and she was too tight to fork over 5K for him so he'd be safe?

    • @loisdavis4095
      @loisdavis4095 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It doesn't work like that. It's anyone's horse if they have the money! 😥

    • @matthewhood4716
      @matthewhood4716 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      What he's saying is correct. The horse was run in $7,500 and $5,000 claiming races following him being claimed away from her. She could easily track where the horse went and claim him back to retire him. It happens all the time.

    • @bethfornaro9383
      @bethfornaro9383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I’m very disappointed in all her actions . She didn’t deserve that fine horse . Absolutely detestable

    • @kismutt1
      @kismutt1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      DoubleDogDare54 She should be giving “Old Friends” a great big donation. What a b*tch.

    • @rebecca11391
      @rebecca11391 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Why'd she run him in a claiming race to begin with...

  • @FlowingDepths
    @FlowingDepths 8 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I hear a lot of racehorses are put on the track at around the age of 2, and many end up unsound or lame as a result of being pushed to hard. Where there's money, there's suffering in some way. Sad.

    • @kcequus2879
      @kcequus2879 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Since their bones arnt fully developed, they are started to young and it usually causes back pains and problems.

    • @angelaalberts7247
      @angelaalberts7247 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you heard? well I lived it, most trainers don't push their 2yo for fear of ruining their 3yo campaigns. Most race them lightly just for experience and "seasoning" and only after they have verified the knees and joints are fully developed.

    • @angelaalberts7247
      @angelaalberts7247 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      rarely are injuries to race horses back problems. If a horse runs at 2 he has to be released by the state and track veterinarians, not the animals usual vet. There is a lot of testing and xrays to besure the animal is truly sound and capable of running in the assigned race.

    • @spinmyhead1667
      @spinmyhead1667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh really,tell us what else you hear.

    • @Xenpen6
      @Xenpen6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More and more horse have total breakdowns, fell and die, break there legg or other things

  • @SenyaSaysSo
    @SenyaSaysSo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I just bought an ottb in october and he is the best horse ive ever been around! So sweet and full of personality! Glad I bought him too since his owner wanted to send him to race again!! He's learning to be a great riding horse and we have to work a lot on stop since race horses are always taught GO GO GO. He has also learned that its ok to go slow and walk when someone is on his back. such a fast learner! He even knows how to bow on command and wont stop once you ask him cause he wants you to keep on giving him treats haha

    • @snazzydolphin5163
      @snazzydolphin5163 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      this comment nmakes me smile...so cute! how are you going now?

    • @asem6480
      @asem6480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ik how you feel I ride an ottb and he doesn't really have a slow canter or trot. 😂

  • @lbarbados38
    @lbarbados38 6 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Why did Tour of the Cat's owner enter him in a claiming race in the first place? Don't complain afterwards that he got claimed. She could have retired him at any point.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      retire him and do what then? feed a non=working horse? if we all kept horses that were no longer producing, we couldn't feed OURSELVES. Do you know what a condition book is? Google it. The book said that claiming race was right for this horse and the owner threw the dice and hoped for the best, but the horse got claimed. It happens. It could also have happened that no one would claim him, just as easily. YOu take your chances in a race like that.

    • @donnakeeley7924
      @donnakeeley7924 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing but greed! This is why I am glad there is no horse racing in the State of Idaho. Its all between the jokeys and trainers who decides who wins or not.

    • @christinejones8597
      @christinejones8597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@watchgoose YES, feed a non-working horse, at least for a little while. Get him rehab/ retraining; if that's not possible, get some competent person to shoot him AT HOME.
      JFC.

    • @bethfornaro9383
      @bethfornaro9383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@watchgoose Do you know what racehorse after care is? Google It.

    • @trueheartfarm8831
      @trueheartfarm8831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watchgoose, you are a true blessing for a roten disposal industry like this.. I m just glad the horse found someone who believes the horse earned his retirement...but mostly if they had some one experienced enough to retrain a kid like him, and was still sound for riding..then turn them in to a pleasure or lesson horse...And don't tell me it can't be done... cause I have worked with several o.t.t.bs that have been retrained and are perfectly happy...

  • @catbus7824
    @catbus7824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I visited Old Friends recently, and wow, this is an amazing establishment, if you are ever in the area, I HIGHLY recommend visiting.

  • @dragoon650
    @dragoon650 8 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    thats about right its not the owner who he made a million dollars for looking after him. But a amazing kind hearted man running a rescue. Wonder how much money tour of the cat former loving owner donates to the charity that stepped up when she didnt. knocks me sick they 'love them' yet cast them off like trash why didnt she buy him back then if she cared about him so much. Oh yeah thats right because he wasnt gonna make him any more money!

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      she could have claimed him back in another race but remember he was not a pet, but part of a business, and she had other horses to race.

    • @dragoon650
      @dragoon650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      watchgoose I think he had earned his retirement winning as much as he did. These aren’t cars but living beings! It’s a vile industry where only the horses truly pay the price. Bet she didn’t donate to this wonderful charity thank god they have some kindness.

  • @BlitheDream
    @BlitheDream 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The lady is acting all innocent and like she’s some amazing owner wanting to retire him. Yet, she happily entered him in a claiming race. She is no better than the man who bought him. If someone won the winning horse they aren’t going to let a $16,000 horse retire in their paddock. You’re no saint lady. I myself have a very expensive horse with medical problems who can’t be ridden (a dressage horse not a race horse, who’s injuries are not riding related). Now I cannot afford another horse because all my money is going to her care. But that’s what you sign up for with horses, they give you their all, so when it’s time you have to take care of them!

  • @sophiegraco4975
    @sophiegraco4975 9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    My old horse had 119 starts. With only 2 first, 4, seconds and around 11 thirds. He was raced for 9 years. I bought him to retrain to jump but he ended up unsound and was semi-retired. They push these horses far too hard.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +e q u i n e t o d a y; Even when they run less than third, they can still earn a paycheck and pay for their keep. Unsoundness can be treated. As an equine physical therapist. Ive helped with that.

    • @lizkathleen
      @lizkathleen 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not all trainers push their horse that far. Most low level racehorses will race in 20-40 races and most stakes racehorses will race in 10-20.

  • @aharder5765
    @aharder5765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The lucky ones get rehomed, and retrained like my favorite gelding at the therapy farm I volunteer at. Junior is an off the track Thoroughbred who was trained as a jumper and later as a dressage horse before landing a job as a therapy horse. At 23 years old, he still loves people and to run, and puts his heart into everything he does.

  • @roseinthepages
    @roseinthepages 15 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    if only there were more facilites like Old Friends to care for all of these unwanted horses!

  • @justseekingtruth3998
    @justseekingtruth3998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you wonderful man for saving that precious boy Tour of the Cat as well as all the others.

  • @danyharris1236
    @danyharris1236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So great to see someone taking care of beautiful animals thank you so very much.

  • @sambo1802
    @sambo1802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The New York Racing Association came up with $125,000. That's it?! When state roads need to be fixed they come up with a million, or billions of dollars then. This is outrageous.

  • @hollyhs3222
    @hollyhs3222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's so sad what we've done to these animals. There's no love for horses in racing

  • @cathygroves8909
    @cathygroves8909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Could you not have a small tax on tickets sold that must go towards a retirement place for these horses. I don't follow horse racing so they might already do this.

  • @veronicamarie3714
    @veronicamarie3714 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A friend of mine just bought a 2 yo with bowed tendons at the auction for$550 dollars he was still a stallion. He had been sold to his racing owner in Jan for $9500. So don't say thoroughbreds always get rescued because he was the only one that was and there's an auction every week.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But don't say they ALL go to slaughter either because that's a lie.

  • @fogarity
    @fogarity 8 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    You think you are bad ? Come to Ireland and the horse and greyhound industry sometimes would make you Sick

    • @abbikyffin7390
      @abbikyffin7390 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah and the South African racing industry is also dreadful

    • @nicolebuckley1111
      @nicolebuckley1111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Im irish too and the racing industry is horrible

    • @prankingaysion
      @prankingaysion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both of them are awful.

    • @lilyby1203
      @lilyby1203 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmfao the irish racing industry has much stricter legislation than american racing

  • @carolinacarrie2247
    @carolinacarrie2247 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Why didn't the woman who profited from him for 8 years not claim him back in the very next race?

    • @alexthegoat4207
      @alexthegoat4207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carrie The crazy fish lady maybe wasn’t put back into a claimer but yes I agree

  • @marypiebenga3245
    @marypiebenga3245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I purchased a Racehorse from Kentucky 17 years ago, she is now 20 yrs old. I have had alot of other breeds in my life. Faith is by far the BEST HORSE I have ever owned. She is level headed kind and extremely gentle. No Regrets!!

  • @paigel.2013
    @paigel.2013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These horses ran like kings, they deserve a retirement like kings.

    • @anonanon9801
      @anonanon9801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My OTTB is a son of Alphabet Soup. But regardless, My horse is VERY loved and very spoiled. He is part of the family.

  • @KevinRAAMAAAGE
    @KevinRAAMAAAGE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I owned a race backed quarter horse mare, and she was heavily abused, mistreated, and mishandled. I finally found someone who could handle her meltdowns and now she's a kid show pony. The thing with quarter horses and thoroughbreds is they're versitle. You can do just about anything with them. They're not useless after racing. They just need rehab and love

  • @FULLOOKKK
    @FULLOOKKK 15 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    We really need a complete overhaul of the racing industry!!!!

  • @tomaszwoznicki2503
    @tomaszwoznicki2503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    (2:45) he loved to train
    Me: dose he also like being druged and abused?

  • @KFrost-fx7dt
    @KFrost-fx7dt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll take one! I don't care if it has an injured tendon, I just love the breed's personality and they make great trail horses too. Don't send them to Juarez!

  • @northeastmontana5664
    @northeastmontana5664 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm an animal lover. I have owned ottb horses since I was 11. I am against animal cruelty and believe too many good horses are being put down. At the same time, I'm a farm kid who knows that animals need to earn their keep, as most of us cannot afford to have a beautiful herd of horses just eating us out of house and home. lol. And they do. I was up to 16 horses at one time. If they don't race them, there is no reason to breed them. If you don't breed them, you lose the genetics, and they are gone forever. More drug testing, strict medical records (maybe chipped?) and retirement plans need to be made. I would love to see more law enforcement in large cities on horseback for crowd patrol. These horses would reign superior in this area. Something does need to be done.

    • @awuma
      @awuma 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The police horses I've seen are much heavier than thoroughbreds. OTTB's are suitable as sport horses, hunters and hacks. They do have a wide range of heights and sizes, though, from 15 to over 17 hands, so suit a wide range of rider sizes, but they are also fine boned.

    • @christinejones8597
      @christinejones8597 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awuma The police in my state used nothing BUT TBs when I was young - it seemed to work for them.

    • @inepttard5742
      @inepttard5742 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s interesting to me that people take animals in but they should earn their keep like they somehow had any part in “our” decision to take them in. I’m taking you so here’s a list of my demands lol, sounds very selfish to me 🤔 I get a lot of people are raised that way but I don’t think it’s ok.

  • @heatherdobson7151
    @heatherdobson7151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for taking care of these beautiful horses. So many of them are sent to auctions to be bought be sold for slaughter daily

  • @spacecop1397
    @spacecop1397 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And at the same time, horses are pushed so hard during their careers on the track that it becomes difficult to rehome them. People are terrified that they'll commit to these horses knowing that they might have a range of old injuries that will come back to haunt them later.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      then they should not consider "rescuing" animals at all.

  • @kinseyallen740
    @kinseyallen740 10 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    They need to close ALL slaughter houses

    • @mathildewesendonck7225
      @mathildewesendonck7225 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Kinsey Allen Yes, I agree, but it will be impossible to close all slaughter houses all over the world. And as a result the horses are shipped for thousands of miles, scared to death and most often without food and water before they are being killed. In the US they send the horses to Canada or to Mexico. That´s worse than just killing the poor horses right away!

    • @Rimfaxe96
      @Rimfaxe96 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Kinsey Allen And what then? What are you going to do with over 400.000 new racehorses - and that's just thoroughbreds, there are many other horse sports out there with leftover horses - every single year?

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Kinsey Allen Why? There has to be an end user somewhere. If there is not a place like a processing plant where you get paid to bring the horse, then you must PAY to have it euthanized, and PAY to have it taken away and disposed of. Not everyone can afford that. Thank PETA for havint veterinary oversight funding removed in this country, whcih saw to is that it was done humanely. Now they are sent to Mexico where the spinal knife cripples them and they are butchered alive. And remember, we do NOT have the right to tell anyone else in the world what they can, or can not, eat.

    • @meganproffitt424
      @meganproffitt424 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rimfaxe96 more than 50% of horses found on slaughter trucks are quarter horses not thoroughbreds

    • @matthewheidenreich5727
      @matthewheidenreich5727 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kinsey Allen I agree with you. I've seen videos of those things... it's terrible. As against euthanasia as I am, I still think it's a better fate than a slaughterhouse. Shut them DOWN!

  • @candieland4276
    @candieland4276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's right...everyone that has profited from that horse in the industry...owes them something back. This has to change. Either set up a program to retire these horses...or stop breeding them!!!

  • @wondersofivan2338
    @wondersofivan2338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is so sick , horses shouldnt undergo such a " life "

  • @bullwinkle774
    @bullwinkle774 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    No more breeding...the law should be that people have to use the horses that are already on the ground, there are thousands of them.

    • @Rimfaxe96
      @Rimfaxe96 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Bull Winkle But a racehorse's prime is from 3 - 6 years old. Some might check if they're any good for hurdle races after that, but that's about it.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Bull Winkle Then what happens when they are too old,k or unsound, or just di? there wouldn't be another generation read to go. It's a legitimate sport.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Rimfaxe96 Or breeding, or jumping in the show ring, or trail riding, of work on the flat in show, or driving, etc......

    • @Rimfaxe96
      @Rimfaxe96 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** In the US perhaps, here in Germany the competition from local warmblood breeds is too great.

    • @citoyen09
      @citoyen09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow. Kind of government overreach, don't you think? What about dogs? Cats?

  • @user-bx7nw1ve6y
    @user-bx7nw1ve6y 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Even responsible owners and trainers are a part of the problem. The Thoroughbred industry regularly cranks out literally tens of thousands of new foals each year, only a tiny percentage of which go on to earn their keep, and there are no guarantees even for those who do. (Google "Ferdinand"--a Kentucky Derby winner) Guess what happens to the rest? It's too awful to say, but involves a cattle truck and a trip to Canada or Mexico. The only ethical answer is to stop breeding so many animals and spend more resources finding good homes for the ones that already exist. What can you do? Adopt if you're qualified. Donate to rescue organizations if you can. Otherwise refuse to participate as a spectator in this ingratiating, abusive 'sport' whose time has past

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not so much. All their breeding has to be done live cover, no AI like ALL the other breeds can do. That puts huge limitations on the number of foals born compared to ALL the other breeds.

  • @dianemanson7756
    @dianemanson7756 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That woman was actually at fault. She knew horse was old but still raced him. Thank goodness he ended up at Old Friends. Great, caring place.

  • @christinebaker8754
    @christinebaker8754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Horses can live several decades. It’s upsetting to hear people talking about a 10 year horse as ‘old’. But the industry runs baby yearlings
    with barely formed bones and tendons. So yeah, ten would be considered old in that exploitative environment. 🥲

  • @zim696
    @zim696 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    lol at the beginning so cute! lol

  • @KatrinaDancer
    @KatrinaDancer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When the guy says they have to "be rehabilitated" that says a lot. I have an OTTB and he's needed more than 1 surgery. My life is basically paying for rescue animals.

  • @abdullahaboobakker1758
    @abdullahaboobakker1758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are doing a honorable work Sir💞 God Bless you n your staff😢 🙏

  • @PurplePoppyAnimator
    @PurplePoppyAnimator 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    OTTB's are FANTASTIC horses for more experienced riders. Been the best horse I've ever worked with and owned. Never known a healthy, sound TB off the track not get sold on to an eventing or competing home around here.

  • @VivCoombes
    @VivCoombes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Over breeding must be stopped , stop the greedy syndicates who don't give a rats where their horse will end up , probably at the slaughter house , it is a greedy buisness , make every owner look after their horse for the rest of their lives , or they don't get to own one , goes for trainers as well. Who don't care about the welfare of their horse , all they want is money , to slow u die , shame on the racing industry world wide ,karma is all I can say will happen to these greedy. Selfish people

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those horses get the utmost care during their careers, more than the people around him do usually. They have someone attending them several times a day!

  • @marjahaselager1501
    @marjahaselager1501 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great and wonderful initiative to look for these horses after their carreer!!! Didn't know of the existence…..Landed here because of my profession (vettechnician). Hope this loving and concerning man is still among us? Racehorses, as all the horses, deserve the best!!! Not only for the money they earned but also for the sake of this wonderful species and their deducation to us. As dogs are our companions and friends for ages, horses have been our slaves for centuries. We should remember that! I watch them as I see them wasted like carbage. You were there beautifl horse and you ment something to the world that's my point of view. Racehorse owners should be ashamed (and that's an understatement) in the way they treat them and say don't say goodbye...…...When they're the star of the track they have all the attention, grooming and looked-after, but after thatthey become 'a waste of money'.

  • @HumboldtNinja707
    @HumboldtNinja707 15 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's so fucked up! Made me cry! With all the money they make for there owners you think they would find house for them! Or treat them better when there old!

    • @meganproffitt424
      @meganproffitt424 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      HumboldtNinja they are? Have you ever heard of CANTER USA, New Vocations, Makers Mark, ect?

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      can't keep them all. and what do you do when a horse becomes totally unusable from injury or illness? what do people do with horses when they have a death in the family, divorce, other financial reverses?

  • @keepinitreal708
    @keepinitreal708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That lady should never have let the 2nd owner get that horse. I used to love bathing my quarter horse, Bob

  • @randomspirit
    @randomspirit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A LOT of ex-racehorses go on to have careers as jumpers; hunter/jumpers, eventing, and pony club. Some even have the right temperament to become lesson horses. There's a whole market of loving homes out there for them if the owners would offer them up for affordable prices...which some do. I had several ex-racehorses that I retrained for eventing and I encouraged my students to buy them as well because there are a lot of pluses in buying an ex-racehorse. For example; they load and ride in trailers well, they're good with their feet and don't mind having a bath. Sure, you have to teach them steering and brakes, but it isn't hard for a knowledgeable rider. And some come with neurotic habits like cribbing and weaving that needs to be dealt with, but an honest seller will tell you about it so you can weed those ones out. But you do need to have a thorough vet-check with xrays before buying because injuries are a real problem with race horses. Tip: shop for "losers" because they have short careers, but are still plenty fast for other sports...and they are a lot less likely to have injuries.

  • @susanbarrott8179
    @susanbarrott8179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find this so sad- 36,000 breedings for 1 race horse to win? This is why I have a rescue TB and I know a few other people who do too. I love him he is wonderful . I have a purebred Arab mare also a rescue whom I have had for almost 22 years-she is just about 31 now. She and her dam were found on a killer buyer lot in southern CA -owner was called - rescue asked if he wanted his horses back- he said NO. He did this often apparently with his horses- so very sad! Makes me angry! There are far too many breeders !! There needs to be a national law to protect horses from this!

  • @equine2020
    @equine2020 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike is the best. Spent a day with him on his Kentucky retirement farm.
    Overbreeding is a problem. Sadly to many go to slaughter. Or ignored & abused.
    As a horse owner, I hate what's done to horses. I've seen things that tear your heart out. All horse owners need to give to a fund that supports unwanted horses.
    Ferdinand a KY Derby winner was sold to a Japanese stud, after his yrs of servicing mates, they sent him to slaughter.
    Demand these noble beautiful horses are cared for with love, . & excellent care.

  • @glambycheryl212
    @glambycheryl212 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my ottb and ottstb . Both boys are amazing horses.

  • @tenspretty
    @tenspretty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    aww i want to help care for them :((

  • @kylieandruss908
    @kylieandruss908 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know of any off the track thoroughbred adoption places or websites? I want to find a good rescue and get a few to train ect and give a good home.

  • @ken45y
    @ken45y 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Old Friends!

  • @kingkongbassbeat
    @kingkongbassbeat 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    To the glue factory with you Seabiscuit! No but seriously , its good to know that horses have a place to go to retire to.

  • @TheAuthor8808
    @TheAuthor8808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These horses make good jumpers

  • @meganramsier2827
    @meganramsier2827 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I work in the racing industry and a lot of horses after they are retired are found suitable homes where they are transition into riding horses. Theres a big market for off track Thoroughbreds because they are cheap and tend to excel in other equestrian sports. I myself own an ex racehorse. Have many friends who own ex racehorses. While working on my track know a lot of trainers have back up plans set up for their racehorses. Let it be some go to an organization that specialize in transitioning the racehorses into riding horses, and knowing people who will adopt.
    Their are probably some that sadly do end up to slaughter. But there's less thoroughbreds at auction and going to slaughter then any other breed.
    These documentaries do not know what they are talking about.

    • @bamboozled2520
      @bamboozled2520 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know plenty of people with OTTB's who have made lovely riding horses and absolutely stunning dressage competitors :)

  • @valentinapost9171
    @valentinapost9171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wonderfull horses !

  • @keligsp8962
    @keligsp8962 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Summer camps, barns, used for intercollegiate teams I rode on etc. I have ridden them in my life time.

  • @spida817express
    @spida817express 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please donate if you can to help make sure these athletes get the retirement they deserve.Jn Saratoga they have the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation...It is a great cause that needs your help.
    I donated last week and feel great that i did a little...Much more has to be done.If you love horses or horse racing, donate..Please !!!

  • @mandyc1091
    @mandyc1091 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heartless owner or tour of the cat. She run the horse in the claimer so she had no right to criticise the new owner

  • @eddabelrose_
    @eddabelrose_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:22 Shacking the bit in his mouth to cause nothing but pain to try and stop the horse from acting up.

    • @12WDA
      @12WDA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their jiggling it not shacking it. 🤦

  • @vincentrenz58
    @vincentrenz58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If she cared so much about the horse then why did she put him in a claiming race 🤣🤔🤣

  • @erin-ii5gw
    @erin-ii5gw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    everyone says that they hate horse slaughterhouses and that’s it’s terrible and shouldn’t exist but then they turn around and happily eat their steak dinner.

  • @singergirlletmesing
    @singergirlletmesing 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They have 2 slaughter house auctions a week here in CLEBURN TEXAS. And Grand Prairie has Lone Star Park, and I have been at the auctions for many yrs and know they sell the race horses there because i have rescued a few but cant save them all.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +SingerGirl LetMeSing They are not "slaughterhouse auctions". ANyone can buy a horse there, to ride, drive, retrain, or whatever. Some are already broke, have papers, and are nice horses. It is NOT just for slaughter so stop acting like it is. Do not bear false witness.

    • @matthewhood4716
      @matthewhood4716 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those are not slaughter auctions you fool. It's just a horse sale.

    • @singergirlletmesing
      @singergirlletmesing 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +watchgoose until you go there and see with your own eyes you don't know. I been there every week and I know

    • @singergirlletmesing
      @singergirlletmesing 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Matthew Hood no they are sold for meat if they are notcrescued

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have been to many auctions. These are not just for slaughter as you or I could buy any of those horses. Are you saying you slaughter??? There are no more slaughterhouses in the US. Yes someone may buy them and transport to Mexico, but you may thank PETA for that - they saw to it that veterinary oversight for USA processing plants was defunded which meant that horses HAD to be transported out of country for slaughter. And that means transportation went back to using double decker cattle trucks which is horrible, and the Mexican method of slaughter is unspeakable (Ive watched the videos) whereas we had humane methods here. PETA did the horses NO GOOD.

  • @JustAgirly0
    @JustAgirly0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    those horses are going throw so much already

  • @gatorgityergranny
    @gatorgityergranny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks New York Times.

    • @lydiaanderson4020
      @lydiaanderson4020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Hello gatorgityergranny, How are you doing?

    • @gatorgityergranny
      @gatorgityergranny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lydia Anderson
      thanks for asking. i am doing well. recovering from knee replacement surgery and have not felt this good in years.
      who are you, Lydia? i searched your name along with nytimes, but i am so inept that i could nay make heads ner tails of the results. were you the reporter on the Tail Of the Cat story? what a great piece of work. this “horse to slaughter” crap has to stop, but it will have to become a cause celeb nationwide.
      if my guess is correct about you then please accept my profound thanks. i bless you, kid.
      jeffrey (gatorgityergranny)

  • @paulinethomas5688
    @paulinethomas5688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jump horses can race into their teens

    • @lydiaanderson4020
      @lydiaanderson4020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Hello Pauline Thomas, How are you doing?

  • @ifykyklol558
    @ifykyklol558 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It just hurts me that horses have to go the the slaughter houses and that why I WANT ALL SLAUGHTER HOUSE SHUT DOWN!!! I work on a farm that buys retired horses and works with them also one more thing u can get riding lessons too! I care so much for horses I hate how they be treated like be thrown away like it’s trash when really the horse is got u the money and I honestly think that people should take care of them no matter what they are precious!!!!!!!

  • @TGP109
    @TGP109 ปีที่แล้ว

    2K a year to care for a horse? Try 4-600.00 a month just in stall rent, and add vet and farrier bills. It's a whole lot more than this narrator thinks.

  • @canislunaticus
    @canislunaticus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I really hate is how they race horses at 2 years old. There should be a law that says they can't be started before 3.

  • @LadyCoyKoi
    @LadyCoyKoi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My thoughts after reading the title was the horrible practice of killing these limp horses for meat and glue. O_O I know that was bad thinking on my part, but we know the history and reality of what happened to horses back then. All for the mighty dollar. :~( These horses deserve better. Far better retirement than being passed around like that. Good on the kind hearted man to run a retirement facility for these beings.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      limp horses?

  • @kourtneybigge3208
    @kourtneybigge3208 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the wake up call that people need

  • @lydiawaffleman1497
    @lydiawaffleman1497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank god that they're saved...

  • @bgardiner3354
    @bgardiner3354 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Australia I used to get horses off the track and train them as competition horses... eventing, show-jumping... whatever they were good for. There are always horses that, for whatever reason, were no good as riding horses. Given that a high proportion of fillies and mares go on to breeding operations, it's really geldings that are left over. So, if there is this huge amount of wastage you would think that they would be easy to get. The reality, in Australia anyway, is that you really need to be on the ball to get horses off the track. The vast majority of horses are already promised to someone... this idea that they all go to slaughter might be true in some places... but absolutely not in Australia... not from my experience anyway.

  • @1reefluvr2
    @1reefluvr2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad and i have 400 acres here in Ensenada Mexico, seeded with alfalfa, oats , barly and dandy lions. Plenty of room to have them roam free and no need to be saddled at all. All racehorses deserve that right to be treated like kings after they are dome at the racetrack. Question is how do i get them to the property.

  • @dennetofferman371
    @dennetofferman371 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    To get stunned/ shot, hanged, bled out, have lowerlegs removed, skinned, head cut off, body cut in two halves and then stored in the meatlocker with a destinaton code along with a few other horses on a daily basis....

  • @cr1385
    @cr1385 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No matter what intent in the beginning it always whines up the same when they stop producing they become expendable. Retirement means the horse is injured not suitable to race or even ride in most cases. The oldest stories we see everyday people bringing there old dogs to the pound because their not fun or beautiful anymore, let alone an old horse who is to expensive to keep. With all animals taken in there is a RESPONSIBILITY to take care of them. It may be glitz and glamour on TV during the Kentucky Derby or some other major races but over all most tracks are composed of low income owners struggling to keep themselves alive let alone their horses. There are far more low life’s then there are high life’s in the so called SPORT OF KINGS. IN fact when it’s all said and done it may only be a step or two above DOG FIGHTING.

  • @harryw6987
    @harryw6987 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lot of ignorant people in the comments who you can clearly tell have never had a racehorse. My dad and family have had race horses, and they are loved like you would love a family dog. Don't even mention the money that goes into caring for them...

  • @javiergarcia6912
    @javiergarcia6912 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We know what to do. Train them to be the best dressage barrel or just ridding horse money can buy. And sanctuary.

  • @pauletterichards4755
    @pauletterichards4755 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a shame these horses are treated this way this needs to be stopped

  • @Christian_Girl120
    @Christian_Girl120 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I no longer like horse racing. It's barbaric and causes a lot of premature injuries and causes many to be disabled before their time. They are beautiful animals and deserve to have a good life. I'm so glad that people like you care about these horses and give them a good home. But those who never have a chance to have that life after racing makes me sick and how they are treated. My hope is that all horses will be treated right.

  • @lyndacosten3491
    @lyndacosten3491 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone needs to know what happens to the horses disgusting cruelty in the first degree

  • @barbarascotto3873
    @barbarascotto3873 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2k per year to upkeep a horse per year??? Where? I want to move there. Try closer to 20k per year.

  • @dezikirkcaldy5708
    @dezikirkcaldy5708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally agree this people make so much money they should have to pay more.Let’s care about the horses and stop so much slaughter.

  • @kimsutube11
    @kimsutube11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    They dump them anywhere they can. Mexican Slaughter houses are quite popular. 😪

  • @meganproffitt424
    @meganproffitt424 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Actually if you educate yourself very few horses found on slaughter trucks are thoroughbreds. More than 50% of slaughter bound horses are AQH every year. Where do racehorses go when they retire? 2nd careers and retirement homes.

    • @jennywalker2251
      @jennywalker2251 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Megan Proffitt lots of them go to slaughter

  • @lovisasoderlund4858
    @lovisasoderlund4858 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    how is this fun to watch, the horses are suffering and the only thing the riders think about is the money

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      riders?

    • @lovisasoderlund4858
      @lovisasoderlund4858 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah död you think that onley one rider cares about money

    • @ifykyklol558
      @ifykyklol558 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lovisa söderlund ikr the riders are selfish

    • @willowc6323
      @willowc6323 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you even know anything about horses

    • @lovisasoderlund4858
      @lovisasoderlund4858 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boo im a ghost yeah i know that horses are suppose to be trethetd bether than this!!!

  • @martinadzugaj
    @martinadzugaj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    People are just monsters... that is so sad

  • @javiergarcia6912
    @javiergarcia6912 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would then create jobs for cowboys and Ranch hand herdsman. And Trainer. All could be trained and used in the wild.

  • @animalsareourangels93
    @animalsareourangels93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Horses should not be used for human entertainment 😡😡😡😡

  • @karro2648
    @karro2648 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Take the darn halters off.. so dangerous

    • @12WDA
      @12WDA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their leather halters, they break

  • @suzannefraser4966
    @suzannefraser4966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Tour of the Cat won one million dollars for that lady why did she not retire him and then when he was claimed in his supposedly “last race” why didn’t she claim him back

  • @mandyc1091
    @mandyc1091 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just goes to show the bs trainers and owners talk . It’s all about the money. Horse racing should be banned

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      better not let them run at pasture either.

    • @Zoe.m.
      @Zoe.m. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      watchgoose you sound like a moron btw, the racing industry is corupt don't deny the truth.

  • @candieland4276
    @candieland4276 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't these horses that were bred to be athletes be used for show jumping or dressage careers after racing??? Seems to me like it's such a waste of good breeding to not use them in other disciplines when they are finished running.

  • @pipersorensen8789
    @pipersorensen8789 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lady said he loves to train, no he doesn't he gets nervous and scared and he isn't having a good time he's being abused.

  • @BinkieMcFartnuggets
    @BinkieMcFartnuggets 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot of them are sold for meat and some of that meat ends up in dog foods, so if you buy the right kind you can actually end up with racehorses on your neighbor's lawn!

    • @meganproffitt424
      @meganproffitt424 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BinkieMcFartnuggets no, thoroughbreds are actually the least found breed on slaughter trucks. Trainers found sending horses to slaughter can be stripped of their license for life

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been that way for a hundred years. Yet you want to feed your pets, right?

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      not true MEGAN. All they have to do is send the horse to a sale where anyone can buy him. Slaughter is done outside this country now thanks to PETA defunding veterinary oversight here.

    • @Zoe.m.
      @Zoe.m. 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      watchgoose you are so unbelievably stupid, you're the kind of person who does their research on Wikipedia.

    • @jennywalker2251
      @jennywalker2251 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Megan Proffitt false, they are the second breed in the slaughter house

  • @pennies4pawsrescue654
    @pennies4pawsrescue654 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Live into their 20s? Try 40s.

    • @kcequus2879
      @kcequus2879 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No majority horses live 20-30.

    • @Lpsgogo
      @Lpsgogo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'd say 30-40. In my barn, 2 lesson horses just passed away. One was 36 and one was 42. They were both retired lesson horses, but we still loved them. They live long if cared for correctly.

    • @pennies4pawsrescue654
      @pennies4pawsrescue654 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, if not cared for properly and ridden incorrectly. I know many horses well past 20 who still compete and win.

  • @columbusadamson5263
    @columbusadamson5263 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It upsets me that most Thoroughbreds are sent to slaughter. I wish there were more places like Old Friends. My trainer, she rescues Thoroughbreds from off the track and retrains them as school horses (most are) or she would keep them for herself (where she only has 3 😂)

  • @samclegg2805
    @samclegg2805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am failing to see how a beef or chicken or pork slaughterhouse is more/less acceptable than a horse slaughterhouse. If people want to.eat horses or feed them to their dogs they ought to be able to.

  • @phillipmaasdorp9491
    @phillipmaasdorp9491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    While money is involved the worst of humans come to the fore. And no consideration for the horses wellbeing is thought of the all to brief glory days. Main question here is , what purpose does horse racing serve? No person outside the fraternity befits anf the poor saps who place bets at the races usually end up losing it. The owners sit up there in luxury and are usually very rich so they dont loose anything. So what's the purpose?????

  • @oliviabjerger8353
    @oliviabjerger8353 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why didn’t the original owners claimed him if she loved him so much…

  • @Rimfaxe96
    @Rimfaxe96 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Where the rest of them go? They generally become dog food.

    • @watchgoose
      @watchgoose 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Rimfaxe96 Many are sold to people who like to do dressage, or jumping, or trail riding, etc. They can live long, happy lives.

    • @Rimfaxe96
      @Rimfaxe96 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ***** Can't do much with a horse with unsound hooves or lungs. Compared to the numbers driven off to abattoirs, the numbers of rehomed thoroughbreds is pretty low.

    • @matthewhood4716
      @matthewhood4716 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Many are kept by their owners and many are retired to stud. You don't have to be a first class horse to become a stud. Some horses stand for as little as $1,000 stud fee.

    • @Rimfaxe96
      @Rimfaxe96 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Matthew Hood Yes but very few breeders take average studs. And most barns can't afford to keep horses around which don't/can't earn their keep.

    • @kcequus2879
      @kcequus2879 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Ottb was left for dead with other Ottb. She almost died. She was so unhealthy that she had a foal and it died before they could have it.

  • @SinRainer
    @SinRainer 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just costs alot of money to hold those and keep em running.. kinda like retirement homes, and those are still under kept!!
    hrm..
    If the world wasnt based around money, itd all be good.

    • @meganproffitt424
      @meganproffitt424 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ctrl Alt you've never been to a thoroughbred retirement home to say that