I think serviced simply means it's been turned on and most of the functions seem to work normally. Refurbished means it's working and any obvious defective parts are replaced. Restored seems to indicate all troublesome parts for the brand and model are replaced and it's been cleaned thoroughly.
I love my SA9800 so much. My brother got it from a family friend/neighbor for 20 dollars 8ish years ago. I got about 1000 dollars in repairs (finally just got a recap) but it's amazing and means the world to me. Did my research and got the PL 550 to go with it and a SA7800 as a back up.
Excellent video, all true, most people selling vintage audio equipment look on ebay and see top dollar and think that's what it's worth, but they need to take into consideration that much work, like cleaning, fixing and restoring takes time and money, not to mention the effort and the responsibility of shipping and handling.
An amp that's been 'serviced' will normally have both channels functional and controls that work without static, which is the most common issue with old stuff. If not you can return it though that is a lot of hassle. I bought a 30 year old NAD that sounds lovely. The tuner works and the Aux input works and that's all I need to play digital. The amp sounds better than most new amps.
Excellent advice about electrolytic capacitors in vintage gear which goes double for the crossovers in speakers. In the past, as in today, sound engineers design speakers. Then the corporate bean-counters get to take a meat-axe to the crossovers: after all, they're a bunch of little parts that nobody sees, so the bean-counters figure they can get away with cheaping out. I have some speakers that are only 20+ years old where I know the quality of sound has been getting worse. My audiologist confirms it's not my ageing ears. So, once we've moved and I've set up my bench, I'll replace every electronic component in those speakers. Transducers included:they're cheap garbage as well.
I had an RT 707 when I was a teenager. I bought it at Sound Distributors which of course is no longer there. I still lived at home and had a full time job and was very happy to pay 350-400 dollars I think I paid, although the price escapes me after all these years. It sounded great, was built solid as a rock and it weighed about 70lbs! At least it felt that heavy the last time I picked it up.
O.G.,You The Best At Breaking It Down....And Yo Fix These Stereo's Like You Worked At The Factories!!!!! If I Had Your SkilledMy House Would Be Full Too!!!!
Yip. I spent $60 on a Yamaha preamp that had a really hard life, of course described as an "easy fix" i probably have sunk over $200 into it over the years to get it back up to scratch. Still has minor issues, but at least it sounds really nice now. No such thing as easy fix!
As with most used stuff, car, electronics, a house or whatever. If you can fix it yourself or have way to much money, then buy it. If not, then forget it.
It’s like a 40 year old car, if it was maintained regularly it’ll last you for ever, and come the day you decide to sell you’ll get top $ .If it hasn’t been maintained properly it’ll be in a junk yard. It’s the same in audio, taking it in for a tune up and you’ll enjoy it for years and years
I've bought a few amps from ebay and it has been a mostly positive experience but I can fix 8it because I have 40 years experience repairing electronics. As long as the transformers are solid most things can be fixed for $20-50 - large can caps are not cheap. Equipment that has been sitting on a shelf for a couple of decades will need all the electrolytics replaced. Equipment that has been used is still full of old sagging caps. Most consumer electronics was built with phenolic printed circuit boards and those don't age well, the old Dynaco tube units are particularly questionable, heating up a solder joint may cause a trace to lift off the board,
I buy, I fix, I sell...someone that buys, then gets a refurbished, reasonably priced unit with a renewal on it's life. Check the rating of the person you're dealing with.
In the old days you would get really awful stuff from ebay. I bought an amp that smelled like horse pee -- stored in a barn? -- and speakers infested with termites. It's so much work to return something that I kept them.
No, not so much unless it's really broke. Like all electronics they should be serviced but it is difficult to find information on them. It's much easier finding information on the vintage audio equipment then the vintage test equipment.
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I think serviced simply means it's been turned on and most of the functions seem to work normally. Refurbished means it's working and any obvious defective parts are replaced. Restored seems to indicate all troublesome parts for the brand and model are replaced and it's been cleaned thoroughly.
I love my SA9800 so much. My brother got it from a family friend/neighbor for 20 dollars 8ish years ago. I got about 1000 dollars in repairs (finally just got a recap) but it's amazing and means the world to me. Did my research and got the PL 550 to go with it and a SA7800 as a back up.
Pioneer equipment is a 5 STAR PICK from the 70's !!
Really great gear!
Excellent video, all true, most people selling vintage audio equipment look on ebay and see top dollar and think that's what it's worth, but they need to take into consideration that much work, like cleaning, fixing and restoring takes time and money, not to mention the effort and the responsibility of shipping and handling.
Thanks for sharing. Solid, honest advice. This gear is an important part of popular music culture. God bless the work ethic & the good people of USA.
An amp that's been 'serviced' will normally have both channels functional and controls that work without static, which is the most common issue with old stuff. If not you can return it though that is a lot of hassle. I bought a 30 year old NAD that sounds lovely. The tuner works and the Aux input works and that's all I need to play digital. The amp sounds better than most new amps.
Excellent advice about electrolytic capacitors in vintage gear which goes double for the crossovers in speakers. In the past, as in today, sound engineers design speakers. Then the corporate bean-counters get to take a meat-axe to the crossovers: after all, they're a bunch of little parts that nobody sees, so the bean-counters figure they can get away with cheaping out. I have some speakers that are only 20+ years old where I know the quality of sound has been getting worse. My audiologist confirms it's not my ageing ears. So, once we've moved and I've set up my bench, I'll replace every electronic component in those speakers. Transducers included:they're cheap garbage as well.
On Ebay only buy from someone with 100% feedback. That has worked for me. Of course if you're planning to restore the item you can take more chances.
You just described almost exactly my first car buying experience
I had an RT 707 when I was a teenager. I bought it at Sound Distributors which of course is no longer there. I still lived at home and had a full time job and was very happy to pay 350-400 dollars I think I paid, although the price escapes me after all these years. It sounded great, was built solid as a rock and it weighed about 70lbs! At least it felt that heavy the last time I picked it up.
O.G.,You The Best At Breaking It Down....And Yo Fix These Stereo's Like You Worked At The Factories!!!!! If I Had Your SkilledMy House Would Be Full Too!!!!
I hope you are doing ok. Havent seen a new video in a while. Love your style.
Yip. I spent $60 on a Yamaha preamp that had a really hard life, of course described as an "easy fix" i probably have sunk over $200 into it over the years to get it back up to scratch. Still has minor issues, but at least it sounds really nice now. No such thing as easy fix!
As with most used stuff, car, electronics, a house or whatever.
If you can fix it yourself or have way to much money, then buy it.
If not, then forget it.
Thanks for your comment. Yes, or expect to have an added expense.
Thank you for your honesty advice 👋👋👋
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It’s like a 40 year old car, if it was maintained regularly it’ll last you for ever, and come the day you decide to sell you’ll get top $ .If it hasn’t been maintained properly it’ll be in a junk yard. It’s the same in audio, taking it in for a tune up and you’ll enjoy it for years and years
I've bought a few amps from ebay and it has been a mostly positive experience but I can fix 8it because I have 40 years experience repairing electronics. As long as the transformers are solid most things can be fixed for $20-50 - large can caps are not cheap. Equipment that has been sitting on a shelf for a couple of decades will need all the electrolytics replaced. Equipment that has been used is still full of old sagging caps.
Most consumer electronics was built with phenolic printed circuit boards and those don't age well, the old Dynaco tube units are particularly questionable, heating up a solder joint may cause a trace to lift off the board,
Im intresting your audio equipments.
I buy, I fix, I sell...someone that buys, then gets a refurbished, reasonably priced unit with a renewal on it's life. Check the rating of the person you're dealing with.
Worst words on EBAY. works fine..estate sale
In the old days you would get really awful stuff from ebay. I bought an amp that smelled like horse pee -- stored in a barn? -- and speakers infested with termites. It's so much work to return something that I kept them.
Just out of interest, did you also restore your vintage test equipment?
No, not so much unless it's really broke. Like all electronics they should be serviced but it is difficult to find information on them. It's much easier finding information on the vintage audio equipment then the vintage test equipment.