Loved this. Working at the Penn Museum's Summer Camp each summer, we often tell the Isis/Seth/Osiris story. Getting to hear it with the additional context is wonderful. To your point about the Roman cult of Isis, the Penn Museum actually has Isis devotional objects in the Rome Gallery derived from this cult. These objects really tell us a great deal about the interaction of cultures. I love the idea of Isis temples in Britain, which I am pretty sure they have found in London.. The world was so much smaller back then and yet ideas still traveled remarkably far.
I find it interesting that the goddess disguised as a nurse burning a royal infant’s mortality occurs both with Egyptian Isis and Greek Demeter. While the surrounding stories are different, that specific element repeats
Considering that the goddesses were later associated with each other by the Romans I wonder if that aspect is what led to the association or if that aspect was borrowed from the original Isis myth and added to the Demeter one then as *part of* the association.
@@PalimpsestProd They didn't go into too much detail here in this video, but in this case it's a bit more than fire being a symbol for healing, they are quite directly the same story: The goddess while wandering the world poses as a mortal servant in a palace, and takes a liking to the infant son of the King. For three nights she bathes the infant in divine flame, burning away a bit of its mortality at a time. On the third night however the mother catches the goddess in the act in "saves" the baby. The goddess then becomes enraged and explains that if she was simply allowed to continue then the infant would have become a god. Replace "goddess" with either Isis or Demeter, it's the same. The only differences are the reasons they are traveling (Demeter is wandering depressed after her daughter was kidnapped, Isis is searching for Osiris' body) and their actions afterward (Demeter demands a temple to her be built in penance, Isis takes Osiris' body and leaves).
I loved ancient mythology *so much* as a kid. I could basically recite whole swaths of information about Egyptian or Greek history, folklore, deities, etc. Looking back, it's honestly baffling that no one figured out I was neurodivergent, lolol
As a kid I grew up on cartoons like Disney's Hercules shows that showed a lot of stuff from Greek mythology, as well as Tutenstein, a cartoon about Tutankhamen's mummy coming back to life and dealing with a lot of hijinx revolving around the Egyptian gods. Then there was the Horrible History cartoons which sometimes touched upon ancient history and mythology. Very educational stuff.
Neurodivergent here, and I'm cracking up because I literally was just saying to myself how intrigued I am by this new found knowledge and telling myself "welp, guess this is gonna be my next obsession for a min" 😫😫🤣🤣🤣😭
Consistently have such great and unique videos, as somebody who often goes down wiki rabbit holes it’s great to have this format and better research toward. Keep it up, great host too
I remember how much I loved Egyptiona myhtology as a child. I remember many versions of this tale. If Osiris' death story is a big drama, the battle between Seth and Horus in some versions can get quite... let's say mature content too haha.
This was the story that cemented my interest in myth and Egyptology as a kid. It was also very funny to read different versions of the Osiris story growing up because they were either honest about what happened to his penis or they'd censor themselves to be "safe for children." Which is hilarious bc mythology can involve cosmos-sized sex melodramas rivaling Real Housewives.
It’s ridiculous to sensor anything. It sensors freedom of speech (speech should not be taken literal as there are different forms of communications in present time and the politicians and or companies who do know they are manipulating the system).
Honestly, mythological relationship drama is better than 100% of modern relationship drama. Some supermodel cheating on her husband? Boring, predictable. Loki Sleeping with a horse? Now you have my attention.
Could you also do one on Seth alone? And maybe Anubis? There are so many sources and stories about Seth, that you easily lose track. One of them is that his Function changed over Egypts history from a hero to a villain. And that he also was the god/patreon of foreigners. Would like to know if that even is a thing.
The thing is he was always the hero to the egyptians. In sumer hes called enlil. But for some reason only reallyyy for the past couple decades people have been demonizing him and siding with the god of death. Weird, in my opinion lol. He was venerated in both egypt and sumer- even being retitled there as nunanmir (fierce high prince). Osiris / Enki is the god of death and the underworld, and he likes it. I don’t side with that guy
This is so well told, thank you! I get so disappointed when someone tells a culture myth with little to no context just to play up the shock value of the imagery, "They sure believed some craaazy stuff back then!" Every element has a point or a context, and without it a story's significance will be lost. With the context you included we can understand the significance of the symbolism, the decisions made, the reflection it had to politics at the time, their virtues and gender roles, and their view of the spiritual and the afterlife, which is incredibly similar to a lot of the western world.
I love the series since it reminds me of TED-eds series about myths, but just noticed this has the same writer!! Great work from Iseult Gillespie to be able to condence these stories to their core issues ✨
There's an amazing church in Rome: the Santa Maria Sopra Minerva ("the Saint Mary over Minerva). It's a Catholic church dedicated to St Mary, the Madonna that was erected over a temple to Minerva. But before it was a temple to Minerva, it was a temple to Isis. You can go down into the ruins & see the layers of Roman history beneath the church to this day. It's interesting to me the continuity not only of preserving a holy space (which is fairly common as religious practices change), but also how a maternal, feminine nature was also conserved from Isis to Minerva to the Madonna.
my earliest memory of ancient Egyptian mythology was that I always remember lending an audiobook of Roger Lancelyn Green's Tales of Ancient Egypt from my schools reading room. The tape it had a very vivid pastel blue colour and was narrated by Alex Jennings I also remember making Egyptian tombs from cardboard
I'm also read Egyptian myths from National Geographic books, and I'm really love it too ☺ ! Love between Usir or Osiris and Aset or Isis are never to be broken 🥰
Wonderful episode, I really appreciate that you shine a light on ancient cultures! I hope to see more in that vein. The art was also really stunning. One little thing though: the pyramid texts are not the world's earliest religious texts. Cuneiform! ;)
This is why studying religions and myth is so important. We understand how people understood life and that explains their ways and decisions in a psychological level.
Your framing of seth as that he “stood for chaos” and “the restraint nephthys by his side” nephthys was everything but restrained she shape shifted into isis and convinced osiris into sleeping with her. Poor osiris didn’t know that this wasn’t his wife and seth rightfully raged by that affair planned to take revenge not that he couldn’t contain his desire to destroy his brother over nothing??? Nephthys then dumped seth and sided with her sister and her brother osiris. If you want to convince me that seth is the villain here then I genuinely don’t know what to say more
Set was demonized over time by the Egyptians. One reason for this is that one of the things he was the god of, was foreigners, and after Egypt's relationship with foreign nations got bad, they started to look at Set in a worse light.
And!! Set joined Ra on the solar barque to fight against Apophosis who WAS actually chaos. However, guys Nepthys genuinely felt bad for what she did. That’s why she decided to help Isis. Also Nepthys’ tryst with Osiris gave us the dark and wonderful Anubis.
Damn that burning the baby deal is so specific but It happened in greek mythology as well with Demeter burning a baby prince, while burning his mortality. Is it a case of diverging beliefs with same stories or did one influence the other?
Could you do an episode about the reoccurring themes and stories in all or most afroeurasian mythologies and the possible proto mythology that came before them?
This was amazing. So well done. I’d love to see a collaboration between Emily and Kara Cooney on another Egyptian story. Can you imagine those two brilliant storytellers teaming up?
Loved how you said the intro. "Sibling rivalry..." My mind:- Thats not everything "Party tricks" My mind:- Thats not everything "And a missing penis" My mind:- OK thats everything
Interesting, apparently some Egyptians claimed that the Hebrew god was another version of Seth. Since Lower Egypt was presumably early on more semitic the idea that Horus defeated Seth to conquer lower Egypt might play into this notion.
Okay, so I like this format, but I think I’m not the only viewer who also watched Overly Sarcastic Productions and is already familiar with Red‘s retelling of these topics
Great retelling. It's a bit odd though to see you illustrate the chest Seth traped Osiris in as a square box. Considering Seth had made it to fit only Osiris, surely it looked like the man-shaped coffins! Which would also connect it with the Egyptian mortuary tradition with which he was so strongly associated. I honestly guffawed a bit at the sight of the square box that apparently no other god could fit into :D
I already wanted to watch this because it's Egyptian mythology - but WOW did you have my attention at "missing penis!" That was a new twist for my own knowledge of this story!!
Ah yes the good ole "I bet you can't fit in the box!" trick.... I'm glad to see it was used back in the day as well as in 1999 when I did it to my brother...I never got around to throwing it in the Nile though, I had to be home before the street lights came on, and I don't think my bike would've made it back in time 🤣
Hmm Never heard of this channel before But I enjoy Egyptian stories, as much as the next. The minute I click on the video, I see Kirsten Dunst will be narrating this video.. Okay, I'll stay for a bit lol.
I was surprised there wasn't a bunch of incest jokes in the comments tbh, either way! Great video :) I love mythos, though Anubis, Set, and Bastet are my go to Egyptian figures, I really enjoyed your vid!!
Loved this. Working at the Penn Museum's Summer Camp each summer, we often tell the Isis/Seth/Osiris story. Getting to hear it with the additional context is wonderful. To your point about the Roman cult of Isis, the Penn Museum actually has Isis devotional objects in the Rome Gallery derived from this cult. These objects really tell us a great deal about the interaction of cultures. I love the idea of Isis temples in Britain, which I am pretty sure they have found in London..
The world was so much smaller back then and yet ideas still traveled remarkably far.
Or those ‘ideas’ were wantonly pilfered, stolen, and reappropriated.
I find it interesting that the goddess disguised as a nurse burning a royal infant’s mortality occurs both with Egyptian Isis and Greek Demeter. While the surrounding stories are different, that specific element repeats
Considering that the goddesses were later associated with each other by the Romans I wonder if that aspect is what led to the association or if that aspect was borrowed from the original Isis myth and added to the Demeter one then as *part of* the association.
Fire = healing, so it would be a common motif in most human cultures.
@@PalimpsestProd They didn't go into too much detail here in this video, but in this case it's a bit more than fire being a symbol for healing, they are quite directly the same story:
The goddess while wandering the world poses as a mortal servant in a palace, and takes a liking to the infant son of the King. For three nights she bathes the infant in divine flame, burning away a bit of its mortality at a time. On the third night however the mother catches the goddess in the act in "saves" the baby. The goddess then becomes enraged and explains that if she was simply allowed to continue then the infant would have become a god.
Replace "goddess" with either Isis or Demeter, it's the same. The only differences are the reasons they are traveling (Demeter is wandering depressed after her daughter was kidnapped, Isis is searching for Osiris' body) and their actions afterward (Demeter demands a temple to her be built in penance, Isis takes Osiris' body and leaves).
It makes sense that the peoples of the meditation sea would trade religious ideas as they traded goods.
@@arachne6074 I'd love to visit the meditation sea, sounds so relaxing.
So Osiris was Exodia all along. Good to know.
Lolololol
OH MY GOD YES!!!
Yes because you had to collect all body cards to summon😂😂
...that might actually be the basis for Exodia.
It is true, I am Osiris
I loved ancient mythology *so much* as a kid. I could basically recite whole swaths of information about Egyptian or Greek history, folklore, deities, etc. Looking back, it's honestly baffling that no one figured out I was neurodivergent, lolol
I'm in this comment and I actually don't mind it
Saaaame. Whenever my guy is playing or watching anything based on mythology, he calls me in for a consult fairly frequently.
As a kid I grew up on cartoons like Disney's Hercules shows that showed a lot of stuff from Greek mythology, as well as Tutenstein, a cartoon about Tutankhamen's mummy coming back to life and dealing with a lot of hijinx revolving around the Egyptian gods. Then there was the Horrible History cartoons which sometimes touched upon ancient history and mythology. Very educational stuff.
Neurodivergent here, and I'm cracking up because I literally was just saying to myself how intrigued I am by this new found knowledge and telling myself "welp, guess this is gonna be my next obsession for a min" 😫😫🤣🤣🤣😭
That's awesome you could do all that, very inspirational!
Consistently have such great and unique videos, as somebody who often goes down wiki rabbit holes it’s great to have this format and better research toward. Keep it up, great host too
I remember how much I loved Egyptiona myhtology as a child. I remember many versions of this tale. If Osiris' death story is a big drama, the battle between Seth and Horus in some versions can get quite... let's say mature content too haha.
Ah yes, the lettuce story.
"Hey, Thoth, how were you born?"
"Um..."
"Hey, Thoth had two dads; he must have been adopted!"
"Well, actually..."
You could have been there in previous life.
So interesting how religions of the past continue to influence our world today
This was the story that cemented my interest in myth and Egyptology as a kid. It was also very funny to read different versions of the Osiris story growing up because they were either honest about what happened to his penis or they'd censor themselves to be "safe for children." Which is hilarious bc mythology can involve cosmos-sized sex melodramas rivaling Real Housewives.
pretty much lmaoo
It’s ridiculous to sensor anything. It sensors freedom of speech (speech should not be taken literal as there are different forms of communications in present time and the politicians and or companies who do know they are manipulating the system).
Honestly, mythological relationship drama is better than 100% of modern relationship drama. Some supermodel cheating on her husband? Boring, predictable. Loki Sleeping with a horse? Now you have my attention.
@@divinekitty1831😅
Could you also do one on Seth alone? And maybe Anubis?
There are so many sources and stories about Seth, that you easily lose track. One of them is that his Function changed over Egypts history from a hero to a villain. And that he also was the god/patreon of foreigners. Would like to know if that even is a thing.
The thing is he was always the hero to the egyptians. In sumer hes called enlil.
But for some reason only reallyyy for the past couple decades people have been demonizing him and siding with the god of death. Weird, in my opinion lol. He was venerated in both egypt and sumer- even being retitled there as nunanmir (fierce high prince).
Osiris / Enki is the god of death and the underworld, and he likes it. I don’t side with that guy
This is so well told, thank you! I get so disappointed when someone tells a culture myth with little to no context just to play up the shock value of the imagery, "They sure believed some craaazy stuff back then!"
Every element has a point or a context, and without it a story's significance will be lost.
With the context you included we can understand the significance of the symbolism, the decisions made, the reflection it had to politics at the time, their virtues and gender roles, and their view of the spiritual and the afterlife, which is incredibly similar to a lot of the western world.
mythology is so interesting and it’s even more interesting when you have people who genuinely like it, like dr Z
So cool to see you doing a mythological tales series as well Dr. Z!!
Having a great time and feeling lucky I have the chance!-*Dr.Z*
I was named after this great Goddess. I never bored myself with her amazing stories and Dr. Zarka did a wonderful job with this. Thanks!
Her real name was aset tho
Ase Family 🎼🤦🏿♂️💙
I love the series since it reminds me of TED-eds series about myths, but just noticed this has the same writer!! Great work from Iseult Gillespie to be able to condence these stories to their core issues ✨
Excellent! It is June 2022, this is the best show I have seen on this rich subject!
There's an amazing church in Rome: the Santa Maria Sopra Minerva ("the Saint Mary over Minerva). It's a Catholic church dedicated to St Mary, the Madonna that was erected over a temple to Minerva. But before it was a temple to Minerva, it was a temple to Isis. You can go down into the ruins & see the layers of Roman history beneath the church to this day. It's interesting to me the continuity not only of preserving a holy space (which is fairly common as religious practices change), but also how a maternal, feminine nature was also conserved from Isis to Minerva to the Madonna.
I was obsessed with ancient Egypt as a kid and I’m still in love with it, and the Osiris legend is my favorite story from Egyptian mythology.
Thank you for this video.
my earliest memory of ancient Egyptian mythology was that I always remember lending an audiobook of Roger Lancelyn Green's Tales of Ancient Egypt from my schools reading room. The tape it had a very vivid pastel blue colour and was narrated by Alex Jennings I also remember making Egyptian tombs from cardboard
I'm also read Egyptian myths from National Geographic books, and I'm really love it too ☺ ! Love between Usir or Osiris and Aset or Isis are never to be broken 🥰
Whoever writes these is KILLING IT. Music selection too.
Love this. Egiptian mythology was my first love and I still have a huge crush for it.
Wonderful episode, I really appreciate that you shine a light on ancient cultures! I hope to see more in that vein. The art was also really stunning.
One little thing though: the pyramid texts are not the world's earliest religious texts. Cuneiform! ;)
Yes, more Egyptian mythology please.
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Thousands of years in the making and then retold across thousands of years, and still a better love story than Twilight.
So good!
I look forward with great anticipation for each new Monstrum and Fate & Fabled episode
Very interesting. I love learning about different mythologies from around the world. This is definitely one of my top 3 favorite channels.
Awesome once again. Best channel on TH-cam by far.
That was lovely......thank you.
Another awesome video from Doctor Z!
Great video, Dr. Z! Thanks!
Loved loved loved, more egyptation lore por favor!
Perfect presentation, thank you so much !!
This is why studying religions and myth is so important. We understand how people understood life and that explains their ways and decisions in a psychological level.
What a wonderful narration of this most complex ancient story. I thoroughly enjoyed it 😀
Your framing of seth as that he “stood for chaos” and “the restraint nephthys by his side” nephthys was everything but restrained she shape shifted into isis and convinced osiris into sleeping with her. Poor osiris didn’t know that this wasn’t his wife and seth rightfully raged by that affair planned to take revenge not that he couldn’t contain his desire to destroy his brother over nothing??? Nephthys then dumped seth and sided with her sister and her brother osiris. If you want to convince me that seth is the villain here then I genuinely don’t know what to say more
Set was demonized over time by the Egyptians. One reason for this is that one of the things he was the god of, was foreigners, and after Egypt's relationship with foreign nations got bad, they started to look at Set in a worse light.
And!! Set joined Ra on the solar barque to fight against Apophosis who WAS actually chaos. However, guys Nepthys genuinely felt bad for what she did. That’s why she decided to help Isis. Also Nepthys’ tryst with Osiris gave us the dark and wonderful Anubis.
Plutarch made the affair story up. In Egyptian versions of the Osiris Myth, Nephthys is usally just the second wife or sister of Osiris
This episode premiered on the 5 year anniversary of my Dad's death, it brought me a little comfort knowing that he's not hurting anymore.
Thank you for sharing and caring ❤
I would love to see someone do an in-depth & up to date analysis of how the Nubians of the Kingdoms of Kush contextualized Isis.
👍👍
Omg this is amazing! I just learned about her tonight!
OMG This helped me so much for my homework ty sooooooo much
When a soul didn't pass the test the heart was devoured by the monstrous Ammit. The soul was then believed to be restless forever.
Thank you my dear. I got it!
Heard so many tales before.
You made it easy & interesting.
Thanks🙂
Yes! Your shirt is giving me everything!
Also, good video. 👏
I LOVE that story! Would you also tell us about Anubis, Guardian of the Dead, please?
Damn that burning the baby deal is so specific but It happened in greek mythology as well with Demeter burning a baby prince, while burning his mortality. Is it a case of diverging beliefs with same stories or did one influence the other?
I love this channel so much, it’s calming and educational which are the two things I can never get enough of☺️Ancient mythos are just fascinating
Could you do an episode about the reoccurring themes and stories in all or most afroeurasian mythologies and the possible proto mythology that came before them?
Thousands of years and we're still talking about them but look how much mothers care about their sons it's amazing ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Yes! 🙌🏻
Excellent video.
We need a chapter just for Horus = please! :)
No myth of creation is complete without incest.
🤣In their defense they didn't have many options
@@Faustian_Bargain_Bin Right. Well there are 10 people and I'm related to 5 of them. 😂
The artwork is beautiful!
hearing about isis in ancient egypt: 😊
hearing about isis today: 😬
This was amazing. So well done. I’d love to see a collaboration between Emily and Kara Cooney on another Egyptian story. Can you imagine those two brilliant storytellers teaming up?
Omg beautiful story 🥹🥹❤️❤️
Loved how you said the intro. "Sibling rivalry..."
My mind:- Thats not everything
"Party tricks"
My mind:- Thats not everything
"And a missing penis"
My mind:- OK thats everything
such a good video. really well done
I love this! ❤️
Thank you for that. Clear succinct and totally absorbing. :D
Wow. I never even heard of Shu, the god of dry air, before. Didn't know there was such a god until this moment.
These stories are so interesting and informative.
Unrelated but, that dress is wonderful. Where can I buy one?
Love this campaign from Age of Mythology rebuilding Osiris once again
Very nicely done, good job!
I always found Set to be so interesting
beautiful story
Interesting, apparently some Egyptians claimed that the Hebrew god was another version of Seth. Since Lower Egypt was presumably early on more semitic the idea that Horus defeated Seth to conquer lower Egypt might play into this notion.
Great authentic 👌 👏
the way Set is styled here reminds me of Cyril Sneer from the Canadian cartoon the Racoons
Now that's truest of true love literally bringing back her love from the dead a true love story
loved it
I adore egyptian myth, and this myth especially.
Okay, so I like this format, but I think I’m not the only viewer who also watched Overly Sarcastic Productions and is already familiar with Red‘s retelling of these topics
Great retelling. It's a bit odd though to see you illustrate the chest Seth traped Osiris in as a square box. Considering Seth had made it to fit only Osiris, surely it looked like the man-shaped coffins! Which would also connect it with the Egyptian mortuary tradition with which he was so strongly associated. I honestly guffawed a bit at the sight of the square box that apparently no other god could fit into :D
I was just in Philae temple, which tell the story of Isis and Osiris. it's gorgeous to say the least.
this is my favorite egyptian story!
Will you ever do a show on the myths of Christianity? And maybe where those myths originated.
I’ve gotta say your dress is 🔥. I wish I could figure out where it’s from.
I really love this series
Egyptian mythology is fun because Egypt was around for so long that the stories changed multiple times.
They hate it were n is black people
I already wanted to watch this because it's Egyptian mythology - but WOW did you have my attention at "missing penis!" That was a new twist for my own knowledge of this story!!
I got to find that movie it was sweet The best movie
This is cool they should do a video on Merlin
Great new content!
Ah yes the good ole "I bet you can't fit in the box!" trick.... I'm glad to see it was used back in the day as well as in 1999 when I did it to my brother...I never got around to throwing it in the Nile though, I had to be home before the street lights came on, and I don't think my bike would've made it back in time 🤣
Hmm Never heard of this channel before But I enjoy Egyptian stories, as much as the next. The minute I click on the video, I see Kirsten Dunst will be narrating this video.. Okay, I'll stay for a bit lol.
Thank you
As a kemetic I love this video
Thank you for your videos and especially these African Mythologie ❤️
Fun fact: the separation of Osirus' body parts was the inspiration for the 5 Yugioh cards that make Exodia
I came here after reading Ennead
Set and Horus, one of the oldest evil uncle stories.
Beautiful
3:43 I do not think the borders of ancient Egypt matched those of the modern country.
Immediately the movie Boss Level comes to mind.
Imhotep!!!
I was surprised there wasn't a bunch of incest jokes in the comments tbh, either way! Great video :) I love mythos, though Anubis, Set, and Bastet are my go to Egyptian figures, I really enjoyed your vid!!
TED-Ed has some competition from the 'Fate and Fabled' series when it comes to telling stories from our mythologies.
Isis and Athena are my favorite mythological figures. 😁
Pls do a video on the yakshi