Another good video, FRM. I ran a Honda shop for 15 years, but they were not particularly aftermarket friendly. I have always admired the support that Toyota offered to the aftermarket, and I suspect they have had a positive influence on the industry. For example, before J-2534 boxes were popular they developed the Mongoose cable which had the J-2534 hardware built into the connector and made it available for < $500. They also rent their pro-level software for as little as $65 for 2 days. Also, the J-2534 interface was originally developed to support reprogramming across all models. Now, many manufacturers, including Toyota, use the J-2534 box for diagnostics also.
Hi, just looking in! Can you please let me know whats the cheapest box that gets you on to tecstream I tried this make but was a pig to set up so sent it back VXDIAG VCX NANO for TOYOTA Techstream V17.10.012 If you buy an Autel J2534 do you have make sure it says for Toyota or is cheaper in the long run just buy om scanner that may not need a battery regulator? im just a novice with all this thanks.
Great job, I love seeing videos like this. J2534 was a bit intimidating for me at first even after 5+ years of doing daily reprograms on Deere equipment (with no required battery voltage maintainer 🤯). Thanks to Keith and Keith, amongst others, I gave it a shot and found it's not terrible once you have the equipment and a network of techs that you can build knowledge off of. For anyone just starting, I felt that GM was the most user friendly and easiest to successfully program and build up confidence.
Science Of Diagnostics plug it in and hit button. Wait couple minutes and cones up with screen saying if flash available or not. No need looking up cal id or making sure selecting correct flash. Pretty cool
one good thing about the working at the dealer its done the same way... gm was always through the tec 2 then pass through then the mdi box... as soon as you learned it it was easy
I’ve only had the opportunity to do a few Honda’s and GMs myself. And well, thousands of Toyota’s lol But you’re right when people say “programming is easy, until it isn’t”
I remember fighting for hours and hours to install Volvo VIDA software. It would get to the final steps and then fail. Turns out I had windows 7home edition and Volvo required windows 7 pro.
Great information! I've only required reflashing 3 or 4 times a year so far, so I just farm them back to the dealer and pass along my cost, but I'm weighing getting into it and probably doing it for others, since no one around here has picked up that ball yet. Thanks!
GM is by far the easiest to work with however like everything else some Gov bureaucrat will see dollar signs and eventually require licenses so they can (regulate it meaning TAXES/FEES)....
Very helpful, we had to send a pick-up out for programming at the dealer. I don't think my shop will want to do it this year. We are spending our budget two a/c machines and a new alignment rack.
They lose lots of money..as large car fleet owner I alway traded several trucks in to get software warranty. It's 2 k around were working because pac car locked everyone out with up dated software.. some good ol boy would break thu firewalls use & improve it then sell it to other owners operators .. samething HP.tuner is doing
Awesome vid, Mike. There is no reflashing in Australia supported by manufacturers, we have to get around and hack the roadblocks they put in place and come up with ways to improvise, still need all the equipment to be able to do it though and it isn't always successful. The only thing we win on with hacking is we don't have to pay subscription fees or download charges.
Chrysler software and certain newer versions of Java do NOT get along well. I had to install an older version of java to flash a Ram a year ago. That was a major pain in my ass!!!! Great video on the ins & outs of j2534 programming! Thanks!
@@flatratemaster Hi, just looking in! Can you please let me know whats the cheapest box that gets you on to tecstream I tried this make but was a pig to set up so sent it back VXDIAG VCX NANO for TOYOTA Techstream V17.10.012 If you buy an Autel J2534 do you have make sure it says for Toyota or is cheaper in the long run just buy om scanner that may not need a battery regulator? im just a novice with all this thanks.
Windows 7 support from Micro Soft ends in Jan 2020, Internet Explorer support is also ending and Micro Soft is abandoning IE so the suppliers need to update their support for Chrome. BTW Edge is going Chromium based in the next year if not sooner.............
After much research on all auto manufacturer web sites. Panasonic tough book cf54 mk3, is a good minimum. No gen 6 processor. has to be enterprise laptop. Has to have dvd drive and 3.0 usb.
Speed is a big thing with programming nowadays like gm for instance if ur computer is slow or you have an older jbox the programming will fail. Don’t buy the cheapest laptop you can find get something that’s faster then what u need or if your like me that knows about computers you can buy an inexpensive laptop toss in more ram, good solid state hard drive and ur gonna have a much better experience. Gm uses the mdi2 for programing and their scan tool it’s only 700 bucks so for that price u can program just like the dealer and also have factory scan tool which you have to pay to use but it’s only like 800 for the year and you can pay for less then a year but it’s worth it if ur gonna use it and many manufacturers are like this now
FRM, I sub long time ago and i would like to give u a million thumbs up every time and last YES would like to see more videos like this please enjoyable as always brother stay safe and cheeeeeers.
Thanks for this information, it is very important, I am a mobile mechanic and many of the problems that I currently have is that the majority of jobs are programming, Reflash Pcm, RCM, EPS and more, and I am trying to find equipment for the least do something, and I found the CarDaq-Plus 3. possibly this program and equipment can help or serve several brands. Maybe you know it, if you have any opinion of this team I will be grateful. I have the Autel MK908 VCI module but I don't know how to download the software and what system it works with. So I'm looking for information. Thank you
Do all you need is a Jbox? Since the Jbox can reflash, if I have a MOPAR vehicle can I just skip downloading their software and do the reflash from the Jbox?
What if I just want to rewrite VINs and add keys, mainly on GM, Chrysler, and Fords made before 2012? Can that be done without the J2534? I'm actually looking at the Autel IM608, which comes with the J2534, but I'm hoping I won't have to have expensive subscriptions for every manufacturer.
Can you still program Ford without the VCM2? Also when using the Altel do you still need a computer or laptop to program? Ive been replacing a lot of transmissions and engines on Ford and chevy so i take them to a different shop to get programed and its not very convenient.
You need a LSID when the module has anything to do with ECM and security system or keys. Not on every vehicle though. NASTF is a great website to check out
Do these jbox and programs work for midrange and HD applications with protocols such as j1708 or j1939? Or are those pretty much restricted to OEM top tier software?
Open the computer and clone the ECM transfer data. No subscriptions needed, doesn't matter if their is a vin in it or not and no power supply needed. Cheaper for the customer and the mechanic. Andromeda labs check it out.
That works with cloning/replacing the ECM-unit only. But after that you need to teach the ECM the vehicle keys in some cases (for.ex.GM) to avoiding the vehicle getting to "anti theft mode" (no starting).
@@elfillari a good portion of the time the bytes for the keys are in the EEPROM. But, like Toyota for instance a quick search for the manual way of programming keys are available. Like opening doors and switching the ignition. Once that info is put into place you need to marry the ECM module to all the other modules jumping pins in the data link connector then bang it starts right up. After the 30 min wait time. However, older vehicles has the immobilizer info stored into the ECM directly and you could just clip onto the double e prom and load a flash file for it from the computers central data base. Model of vehicles varry and I'm not saying that this method is perfect. Just practical if you work on many vehicles to include heavy equipment. I can clone body modules And dash cluster and input mileage to them. Not only ECMs. Any module with a EEProm you can even copy high dollar tunes located in the processors but thats more complicated and requires other probes.
@@andyperkins2523 Yes, I just been learned as long the original ECM's eeprom is with data ok, you can send it to the replacing ECM's eeprom including the data for the original keys. Then only the crankshaft sensor have to be reset/learn thru the obd scanner.👍 As you suggested I will try the Andromeda recearch system giving them a serious change, just by the serious reference given thru the email correspondence!
@@elfillari it's only just more tools in the good ole tool box. You don't use them always but when you need it you need it. Have fun learning about the world of cloning. Andromeda labs helped me every step of the way, literally on the phone with me teaching as I went thru the program. Rome wasn't built in a day.
I'll never purchase another Ford product as long as I live. Looking at a second steering rack for a 2010 Fusion, neither of which can be replaced and programmed by anyone but them. Great gig... build crap that breaks down, protect yourself from recalls and make sure nobody else can fix it but your own shops. Their executives should be in jail.
I can reflash it for $50 2 day subscription. MY tools include a $169 laptop off ebay and a $300 Cardaq used box off ebay. n Or you can put a used rack in and cross your fingers to see if it works. It might roll off the old programming from the previous car it was in.
@@mph5896 I appreciate the info and the offer but we've gotten rid of the car. I've never like Fords and ended up with this one by chance. Lesson learned... if you have a gut instinct don't ignore it. Cheers!
Do you have a coupon code for aeswave? im looking at picking up the single channel scope and some other things like relay testers for working on a M-B 1986 SL560.. i've never used one and sorta understand how they work so I wanna learn and teach myself some neat things while working on this car so I don't parts cannon it or take to a expensive shop. Appreciate everything i've been able to learn on this channel!
@@flatratemaster Thats alright but keep that in mind next time you do have a chance to speak with them, it seems like one of my late nights of video watching I seen that Humble had a list of coupon codes which I think AES was one of the listed websites. I'll see if I can find it and share it with you also! Thanks for the response Sir!
About time someone tells the real deal on programming: Autel Consultancy guy talks in circles . I watch 5 Autel Consultancy videos and came away confused. He says things like "I might, It may, it may not" Who really knows" If Autuel Maxyis was worth its grain of salt is would be user friendly..
I am working on Honda CR-V 2017 I have replaced Body control module rewritable and instrument panel after car accident So what scanner do I need to have to program those two . Any body please help with an idea
Remember the days of tuning with a timing light, vac gauge , and screwdriver...lol
Gary Harms Yep and filing points and setting dwell (I can’t remember how to spell that I think I’m right..Lol)
Yep, Many cars now don't even give you a TDC mark on the crank pulley anymore.
Wayyy before my time
I actually do🤣
yep just did it yesterday 😁
This is a real eye opener for a repair customer!!! I had no idea of the investment required.
Another good video, FRM. I ran a Honda shop for 15 years, but they were not particularly aftermarket friendly. I have always admired the support that Toyota offered to the aftermarket, and I suspect they have had a positive influence on the industry. For example, before J-2534 boxes were popular they developed the Mongoose cable which had the J-2534 hardware built into the connector and made it available for < $500. They also rent their pro-level software for as little as $65 for 2 days.
Also, the J-2534 interface was originally developed to support reprogramming across all models. Now, many manufacturers, including Toyota, use the J-2534 box for diagnostics also.
Hi, just looking in! Can you please let me know whats the cheapest box that gets you on to tecstream I tried this make but was a pig to set up so sent it back VXDIAG VCX NANO for TOYOTA Techstream V17.10.012 If you buy an Autel J2534 do you have make sure it says for Toyota or is cheaper in the long run just buy om scanner that may not need a battery regulator? im just a novice with all this thanks.
Great job, I love seeing videos like this. J2534 was a bit intimidating for me at first even after 5+ years of doing daily reprograms on Deere equipment (with no required battery voltage maintainer 🤯).
Thanks to Keith and Keith, amongst others, I gave it a shot and found it's not terrible once you have the equipment and a network of techs that you can build knowledge off of.
For anyone just starting, I felt that GM was the most user friendly and easiest to successfully program and build up confidence.
Science Of Diagnostics gm is easy but Honda is even easier lol.
Haven't had the opportunity yet, but I look forward to it.
Science Of Diagnostics plug it in and hit button. Wait couple minutes and cones up with screen saying if flash available or not. No need looking up cal id or making sure selecting correct flash. Pretty cool
@@codysautodiagnosticsprogra8706 John deere style. I like that.
Thanks!
one good thing about the working at the dealer its done the same way... gm was always through the tec 2 then pass through then the mdi box... as soon as you learned it it was easy
I’ve only had the opportunity to do a few Honda’s and GMs myself. And well, thousands of Toyota’s lol But you’re right when people say “programming is easy, until it isn’t”
I remember fighting for hours and hours to install Volvo VIDA software. It would get to the final steps and then fail. Turns out I had windows 7home edition and Volvo required windows 7 pro.
Been there done that lol
Good tip.
Great information! I've only required reflashing 3 or 4 times a year so far, so I just farm them back to the dealer and pass along my cost, but I'm weighing getting into it and probably doing it for others, since no one around here has picked up that ball yet. Thanks!
thanks for this info, great video for those of us not familiar with Jbox programming! gave us manufacturers, tips, and good info, good video FRM!!
GM is by far the easiest to work with however like everything else some Gov bureaucrat will see dollar signs and eventually require licenses so they can (regulate it meaning TAXES/FEES)....
Very helpful, we had to send a pick-up out for programming at the dealer. I don't think my shop will want to do it this year. We are spending our budget two a/c machines and a new alignment rack.
Excellent video on the overview of J box programming
That reminds me, I need to update my LSID.
ThePracticalMechanic I need to get my lsid. Everything is going that direction
Glad I got my lsid before 2.0 came out. Walk in the park to migrate. Nice don't have to worry about audits since everything is uploaded.
Idk why every manufacturer doesn’t just have a site based scan tool like Chrysler does. All u need is a little micro pod.
They lose lots of money..as large car fleet owner I alway traded several trucks in to get software warranty. It's 2 k around were working because pac car locked everyone out with up dated software.. some good ol boy would break thu firewalls use & improve it then sell it to other owners operators
.. samething HP.tuner is doing
Awesome vid, Mike. There is no reflashing in Australia supported by manufacturers, we have to get around and hack the roadblocks they put in place and come up with ways to improvise, still need all the equipment to be able to do it though and it isn't always successful. The only thing we win on with hacking is we don't have to pay subscription fees or download charges.
I like the video I found it informative. I loved the one blooper you left in there🤪🤑👍
Great video with a lot of useful info.
I agree but ford Jbox Reprogramming is almost identical too Ids. I Have a Launch / Drew Technology Cardac
Chrysler software and certain newer versions of Java do NOT get along well. I had to install an older version of java to flash a Ram a year ago. That was a major pain in my ass!!!! Great video on the ins & outs of j2534 programming! Thanks!
Java is the bane of everyone that programs
@@flatratemaster Hi, just looking in! Can you please let me know whats the cheapest box that gets you on to tecstream I tried this make but was a pig to set up so sent it back VXDIAG VCX NANO for TOYOTA Techstream V17.10.012 If you buy an Autel J2534 do you have make sure it says for Toyota or is cheaper in the long run just buy om scanner that may not need a battery regulator? im just a novice with all this thanks.
The snapon pass through pro which is a car daq works well with Toyota techstream. At least 10 years ago it did not sure about newer models.
Great video!
Thank you
Windows 7 support from Micro Soft ends in Jan 2020, Internet Explorer support is also ending and Micro Soft is abandoning IE so the suppliers need to update their support for Chrome. BTW Edge is going Chromium based in the next year if not sooner.............
Great info. Shit can be a real headache.
Well done!
After much research on all auto manufacturer web sites. Panasonic tough book cf54 mk3, is a good minimum. No gen 6 processor. has to be enterprise laptop. Has to have dvd drive and 3.0 usb.
Speed is a big thing with programming nowadays like gm for instance if ur computer is slow or you have an older jbox the programming will fail. Don’t buy the cheapest laptop you can find get something that’s faster then what u need or if your like me that knows about computers you can buy an inexpensive laptop toss in more ram, good solid state hard drive and ur gonna have a much better experience. Gm uses the mdi2 for programing and their scan tool it’s only 700 bucks so for that price u can program just like the dealer and also have factory scan tool which you have to pay to use but it’s only like 800 for the year and you can pay for less then a year but it’s worth it if ur gonna use it and many manufacturers are like this now
FRM, I sub long time ago and i would like to give u a million thumbs up every time and last YES would like to see more videos like this please enjoyable as always brother stay safe and cheeeeeers.
Great explanation
Thanks for this information, it is very important, I am a mobile mechanic and many of the problems that I currently have is that the majority of jobs are programming, Reflash Pcm, RCM, EPS and more, and I am trying to find equipment for the least do something, and I found the CarDaq-Plus 3. possibly this program and equipment can help or serve several brands. Maybe you know it, if you have any opinion of this team I will be grateful. I have the Autel MK908 VCI module but I don't know how to download the software and what system it works with. So I'm looking for information. Thank you
My battery maintainer failed once during programming, i ended up with modules half programmed. It was a nightmare
more videos please Dan :)
@@DIETRYING001 working on that😊
Dan that happened to me in bed where my maintainer failed haha how embarrassing my girl said I must be I’m getting older 😂
@@weldingjunkie 🤣🤣
😳🤬
Good info
Do. Video using mk908
Happy Friday!
good job
Do all you need is a Jbox? Since the Jbox can reflash, if I have a MOPAR vehicle can I just skip downloading their software and do the reflash from the Jbox?
Wham Bam Thank you M'am🤣
thanks
👍thx FRM
What if I just want to rewrite VINs and add keys, mainly on GM, Chrysler, and Fords made before 2012? Can that be done without the J2534? I'm actually looking at the Autel IM608, which comes with the J2534, but I'm hoping I won't have to have expensive subscriptions for every manufacturer.
Cardaq or autel? Which one and why?
How many re programs does it take to pay for the equipment,, more of a specialized job.
Difference between j2534 and flash programming.
Senior I need machine that can program Gm cars ECU and keys. I need your recommendation
Thank you new sub.
Can you still program Ford without the VCM2? Also when using the Altel do you still need a computer or laptop to program? Ive been replacing a lot of transmissions and engines on Ford and chevy so i take them to a different shop to get programed and its not very convenient.
Would one of those small lithium battery boosters work.?
@Flat Rate Master Can a used Mercedes Collision Prevention Assist module (000-905-17-04) be reprogrammed for use with another car (Mercedes)?
I use Chrome all the time with no problems
Plz review humzor ND606 👍 thanks
Can u give me a specific example of when I will need the LSID, thanx!!!
You need a LSID when the module has anything to do with ECM and security system or keys. Not on every vehicle though. NASTF is a great website to check out
Oh man I'm a car guy and a software guy but for some reason when car guys make software it ends up damn near as complexly simple as a BMW.
Do these jbox and programs work for midrange and HD applications with protocols such as j1708 or j1939? Or are those pretty much restricted to OEM top tier software?
How much to buy it j2534 is it a universal reprogramming
Sir good information
What about device called
DGtech VSI 2534
I have no experience with that tool sorry
Open the computer and clone the ECM transfer data. No subscriptions needed, doesn't matter if their is a vin in it or not and no power supply needed. Cheaper for the customer and the mechanic. Andromeda labs check it out.
That works with cloning/replacing the ECM-unit only. But after that you need to teach the ECM the vehicle keys in some cases (for.ex.GM) to avoiding the vehicle getting to "anti theft mode" (no starting).
@@elfillari a good portion of the time the bytes for the keys are in the EEPROM. But, like Toyota for instance a quick search for the manual way of programming keys are available. Like opening doors and switching the ignition. Once that info is put into place you need to marry the ECM module to all the other modules jumping pins in the data link connector then bang it starts right up. After the 30 min wait time. However, older vehicles has the immobilizer info stored into the ECM directly and you could just clip onto the double e prom and load a flash file for it from the computers central data base. Model of vehicles varry and I'm not saying that this method is perfect. Just practical if you work on many vehicles to include heavy equipment. I can clone body modules And dash cluster and input mileage to them. Not only ECMs. Any module with a EEProm you can even copy high dollar tunes located in the processors but thats more complicated and requires other probes.
@@andyperkins2523 Yes, I just been learned as long the original ECM's eeprom is with data ok, you can send it to the replacing ECM's eeprom including the data for the original keys. Then only the crankshaft sensor have to be reset/learn thru the obd scanner.👍 As you suggested I will try the Andromeda recearch system giving them a serious change, just by the serious reference given thru the email correspondence!
@@elfillari it's only just more tools in the good ole tool box. You don't use them always but when you need it you need it. Have fun learning about the world of cloning. Andromeda labs helped me every step of the way, literally on the phone with me teaching as I went thru the program. Rome wasn't built in a day.
What is better place work at dealer or independent?? What is u guys opions
Adam White i don’t think there is a “right” answer for everyone. I think it has more to do with who you are, and what you value.
@@VoltageDropDiagnostics dont want to be flat rate lol
Adam White then a dealership isn’t for you lol
Problem is you need a subscription to use these scan tool programmers.
Is there any places on the internet where you can direct it us to learn more on module programing?
Embedded device programming.
Can this do keys too?
How about the new autel ultra vcim
Hello does anyone try to use Bosch mastertech II on mazda ids software? Will it works?
Is Nextiq a Jbox too
Will this work on 07 5.9 cummins?
I'll never purchase another Ford product as long as I live. Looking at a second steering rack for a 2010 Fusion, neither of which can be replaced and programmed by anyone but them. Great gig... build crap that breaks down, protect yourself from recalls and make sure nobody else can fix it but your own shops. Their executives should be in jail.
I can reflash it for $50 2 day subscription. MY tools include a $169 laptop off ebay and a $300 Cardaq used box off ebay.
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Or you can put a used rack in and cross your fingers to see if it works. It might roll off the old programming from the previous car it was in.
@@mph5896 I appreciate the info and the offer but we've gotten rid of the car. I've never like Fords and ended up with this one by chance. Lesson learned... if you have a gut instinct don't ignore it. Cheers!
Do you have a coupon code for aeswave? im looking at picking up the single channel scope and some other things like relay testers for working on a M-B 1986 SL560.. i've never used one and sorta understand how they work so I wanna learn and teach myself some neat things while working on this car so I don't parts cannon it or take to a expensive shop. Appreciate everything i've been able to learn on this channel!
Sorry i do not, I wanted to talk with Carlos more at TST but only saw him once😐
@@flatratemaster Thats alright but keep that in mind next time you do have a chance to speak with them, it seems like one of my late nights of video watching I seen that Humble had a list of coupon codes which I think AES was one of the listed websites. I'll see if I can find it and share it with you also! Thanks for the response Sir!
So what's up with the 2 thumbs down on every video? Bots or former Bosses 😜
Lol, every video, a couple trolls just love to hate me for some reason🤷♂️
I remember the days when a J-Box was place you'ld spendr the night for being a J@gOff
About time someone tells the real deal on programming: Autel Consultancy guy talks in circles . I watch 5 Autel Consultancy videos and came away confused. He says things like "I might, It may, it may not" Who really knows" If Autuel Maxyis was worth its grain of salt is would be user friendly..
anything Chrysler is a pita
Well it's not the choice of manufacturers to use the a J box it's a Government mandate!
Yep, but only for PCM reprogramming. While it is not mandated for scan tool operations, some manufacturers do support this.
I am working on Honda CR-V 2017 I have replaced Body control module rewritable and instrument panel after car accident
So what scanner do I need to have to program those two .
Any body please help with an idea
Honda hds,need a subscription and a cardaq m
Can you send me his email