Shin Megami Tensei 4 Boss Sanat [MASTER]

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    Shin Megami Tensei 4 Boss Sanat [MASTER]
    First time playing through SMT4 series.
    This game has been recommended to me multiple times.
    I've decided to exclude the additional choices from the main story and just keep it full top screen (Beside in Boss fights). Every option I choose are CHAOS answers.
    Pre-ordered a 3ds built in capture card a while ago 2016 (February) from Keity, but it takes around 5 months for them to make/ship it (I received it July 8th). Originally I had a 3ds XL just for this game, but the screen on a handheld device was just way too annoying to play on, and I'm not a fan of that but now I can play 3ds games on a monitor/tv with a lot bigger screen and it's a lot better now.

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  • @runiqe
    @runiqe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Imagine this pile of flesh going up to you on just one meaty wheel.

    • @Kamiyouni
      @Kamiyouni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Half the crap in SMT would scare me to bits but this would absolutely make me lose my sanity. I would be begging for the Ancient of Days.

    • @someguy4405
      @someguy4405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think the wheel is meant to represent the cycle of suffering as living beings eat each other.

  • @JohnDoe-tt5qc
    @JohnDoe-tt5qc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    According to his description, Sanat was an old god that got conflated with and absorbed into Lucifer in the Abrahamic traditions, and one of his godly epithets was 'Ancient of Days'.
    That hints that Sanat is an aspect of Lucifer in the same way that Ancient of Days was an aspect of YHVH. It would make sense too, since the actual Lucifer is somehow absent from the SMT IV world, as the one in these games was just half of Satan according to Apocalypse. And Sanat behaves a lot more like the Lucifer from other games.

    • @TheKarui
      @TheKarui 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lucifer is a boss fight though. He isn't absent

    • @JohnDoe-tt5qc
      @JohnDoe-tt5qc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@TheKarui In Apocalypse, though, we learn that the Lucifer in IV and IVA was half of Satan. Meaning that it was controlled opposition, YHVH was using it as a puppet to divide humans and maintain its rule. So it's not clear if the Lucifer in IV and IVA is actually the Lucifer we see in other games.

    • @lylacor8401
      @lylacor8401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@JohnDoe-tt5qc can't help but see that sanat is satan with the n and t switched.

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @xid He's still not the full blown chaosgang Lucifer we know and love though, since he's a YHVH "sleeper agent" and stuff. Sanat seems to fill the role of the usual Lucifer shenanigans here and it could even be assumed that he had something to do with Kenji being a chaos alignment rep or something in IV's pre game lore, especially with his dialogue about "planting the seed of chaos" and stuff.

    • @wubbawubba3396
      @wubbawubba3396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @xid he isn't the classic Lucifer at all, and that should be very obvious from how he's shown in IV. In other games (let's take strange journey for example), he is an omnipotent being that alone usually equals yvhv or his equivalent in the concurring game. Guiding humanity or manipulating it behind the scenes to work against yhvh the same way yhvh would do. In IV, not only is he clearly significantly weaker than any of the incarnations he's been shown in (strange journey, raidou 2, III, DeSu, etc.), but he doesn't act like the manipulator we all know and love.

  • @TheCaliMack
    @TheCaliMack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    So in Theosophy, Lord Sanat Kumara is an "Advanced Being" at the Ninth level of initiation who is regarded as the "Lord" or "Regent" of Earth and of humanity.
    At first I thought they tried to play around with the Satan name. Guess not.

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Theosophy seems to try and combine the religions of Hinduism and Christianity from what I'm reading though, or possibly demonize Hinduism. Sanat is usually equated/bastardized into being Lucifer and stuff. I don't really understand it properly but it's at least something to go off of.

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      honestly, Sanat's description almost matches Satan/Lucifer's perfectly, with both beings being considered "lord of the Earth" and technically "master of humanity" as well due to the Devil having a stranglehold on the entire human race due to the Original Sin.

  • @CasterOfHope
    @CasterOfHope 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    at least you didnt fight him with his weakness to gun/pierce, then the gaea rage stuff would've happened a lot sooner (made that mistake my first time fighting him)

    • @oomsou5018
      @oomsou5018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ya know I was wondering why he wasn’t spamming almighty moves like he does for me. Holy hell I refuse to grind holy wrath for this fight. Megidola hopefully should suffice

    • @CasterOfHope
      @CasterOfHope 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oomsou5018 if you have concentrate and party buff skills you should be fine. its primarily hp and mp management and prepping for that gaea rage usage he has thats inevitable once he drop sot a certain hp threshold. when he gets close to death thats when I feel most comfortable doing power charge into strong gun/pierce moves, but everyone has their different approaches to bosses so at the end of the day do what works for you best.

    • @xaviaxs
      @xaviaxs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@CasterOfHope tbh i won cuz of his weakness since i used aeshma gun skill 3 times in the end when i only had the mc and aeshma alive plus aeshma after mc got killed dodged 2 gaea rage then used the gun skill 2 times to win by pure luck

    • @xaviaxs
      @xaviaxs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oomsou5018 i managed with a lot of buffs and delibitates and my mc had megidolaon and and had some demosn with holy wrath and ended winning with gun weakness since tbh he was already almost dead and spamming gaea rage without me exploiting his weakness

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I usually wait until he starts to spam Gaea Rage, then start unloading on him.

  • @BuffMaister
    @BuffMaister  6 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Is this supposed to be Satan's brother?
    Sanat > Satan.
    6 arms.
    Male verison.

    • @blacgrav410
      @blacgrav410 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      BuffMaister I think he is the embodiment of Chaos in a different religion.

    • @notimportant493
      @notimportant493 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      if you read into him hes sort of like baal

    • @Darius13456
      @Darius13456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      he's supposed to represent the fact that sanat was demonized by I believe Christian theology

  • @MastaGambit
    @MastaGambit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    funny how the fight basically just devolves into muda-muda-ora-ora but with gaea rages and holy wraths lol

  • @punishedbrak4255
    @punishedbrak4255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Starts the fight with Lucifer's theme... Curiouser and Curiouser.

    • @chiefbawor_thegr8966
      @chiefbawor_thegr8966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Considering Lucifer in IV is Satan
      I guess Sanat is the true Chaos rep

  • @Richter451
    @Richter451 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes this design is pretty flawed, but in motion it does look pretty unnverving, like this giant fleshy thing is just cruising around and hitinf the earth with Gaea rage is pretty dope

  • @Alice89chan
    @Alice89chan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I find interesting that this game has the more threatening theme in the divine battle than in the demonic one.

  • @GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp
    @GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    He feels like a god of Scientology

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      he, and the rest of the "Great White Brotherhood" (the inspiration for The White) were considered important figures in Theosophy, which was almost as cult-ish

    • @GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp
      @GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh interesting, I'll look into that

    • @GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp
      @GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@zaqareemalcolm one thing that I found was that one of Sanat's titles is "The ancient of days" that means both universes you fight Sanat but one is his Chaos interpretation and the other is his Law interpretation

    • @zaqareemalcolm
      @zaqareemalcolm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp it's because SMTIV kind of implies that Law and Chaos mirror each other rather than be complete opposites, and it might've also been foreshadowing the revelation about the two alignments in SMTIV:A

    • @giovannigonzalez6349
      @giovannigonzalez6349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Tom cruise is the main villain in SMT 5

  • @christopherbravo1813
    @christopherbravo1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    "you better watch out.
    you better not cry.
    you better not pout, 'cause you're going to die!
    SANAT CLAUS IS TAKING.....TOWN"

    • @sock312
      @sock312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn imagine this thing coming down your chimney

    • @mothwoman2004
      @mothwoman2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💀

  • @dartoney
    @dartoney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    first time seeing his ingame design as i never finished IV, like it way more now

  • @chayimweinstock443
    @chayimweinstock443 6 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I love Sanat's design.

    • @jamfingers55
      @jamfingers55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I think it's a crime against art

    • @CereDulce37
      @CereDulce37 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamfingers55 ye

    • @peropero2208
      @peropero2208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      For me it's....overdesigned

    • @lowhp_comic
      @lowhp_comic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't suit an SMT game at all, but looks like it could work well in Doom

    • @smtandearthboundsuck8400
      @smtandearthboundsuck8400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He kinda ressembles the archangel designs, except meaty instead of robotic.

  • @firestar4407
    @firestar4407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Man, SMT IV has some of the craziest & insane demon designs in this series... Too bad the new demons from IV Apocalypse look generic in comparison, specially YHVH's second form.

    • @bumbsboomba8505
      @bumbsboomba8505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Though the new changes to some designs were well needed. Like Lucifer, merkabah, odin, and medusa’s new designs looked way better

    • @firestar4407
      @firestar4407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No Minotaur in IV Apocalypse tho...

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@firestar4407 his second? what about his FIRST form?
      IT'S LTIERALLY A BUNCH OF GIANT FLOATING BALD HEADS!

    • @haihuynh8772
      @haihuynh8772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@christopherbravo1813 There’s beauty in simplicity.

    • @someguyparagon5273
      @someguyparagon5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@firestar4407
      Yeah I was kinda bum Minotaur wasn't in Apocalypse which is odd they bought back Medusa but not Minotaur?

  • @kornaes
    @kornaes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Sanat.
    'Words' in Finnish.
    lol

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    My crazy conspiracy theory is that Sanat is actually Demi-fiend, and that the battle after the True Demon Ending forced Lucifer and Demi-fiend to become one in order to survive.
    I mean, almost all of Sanat's skills are Magatama skills, he's part of the Chaos race, he fills the role Lucifer usually takes up, and he references previous humanities.

    • @villanknight
      @villanknight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao same

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      a fate far worse than what the Great Will forced onto that reporter dude.
      and if his "dying" words are anything to go by, the Great Will might have *also* cursed him with immortality in addition to that!

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christopherbravo1813 Most definitely

    • @jackour8167
      @jackour8167 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that's definitely not what happened

    • @jackour8167
      @jackour8167 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also Sanat is someone else entirely. He's not made up by Atlus at all

  • @PoffyPrime
    @PoffyPrime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    What does he mean when he says 5th humanity?

    • @DengueBurger
      @DengueBurger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Sometimes, God and the angels/Law alignment wipe out humanity if they deem it suitable, i.e. if humans act as filth/unholy/disorderly, etc.
      After which, they start anew, again and again as many times as they see fit; hence, the current batch of humans isn’t necessary the first and only.

    • @novelkars835
      @novelkars835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      According to Theosophy humanity is currently in its fifth root race stage. Considering that this particular side quest (and more) in SMT4 is based on Theosophy, I suppose the 5th humanity is referring to the fifth root race.

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DengueBurger honestly, the logic behind that is pretty flawed, since the "2nd", "3rd", "4th", and "5th" humanities were chosen from members of the "previous" humanity, so technically the human race is still on version one.

    • @donbototo5068
      @donbototo5068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because this is the 5th main line game (yeah, strange journey is a main line game)

  • @gustavoaguiar8282
    @gustavoaguiar8282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think this is not on master, i'm at 10 minutes of video and didn't see he using 2 op skills that are one shoting my whole party, this or the boss hass some trigger mechanic that i'm doind that makes he so op

    • @skydivisionx
      @skydivisionx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Did you hit his gun weakness?

  • @Scratch0
    @Scratch0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    honestly... where is sanat from? Seriously, his appearance feels a little forced and out of place. The ancient of days is more organic, I mean it is an avatar of YHVH but, sanat, what exactly is Lucifer? If it is obviously related to this or it is just an ultra powerful demon that came out of nowhere and that's it.

    • @Richter451
      @Richter451 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think he is from theosophy, basically either a demonized version of satan from the old testament or an advanced being that watches over us so that we evolve and stuff

  • @naokifudou9892
    @naokifudou9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder what happened if The Demi Fiend fight against Sanat

    • @someguyparagon5273
      @someguyparagon5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Heh the mental image of both Demi-Fiend and Sanat going hard at each by SPAMMING Gaea Rage is funny...
      Although interesting enough sanat here is a bit similar to Demi-Fiend what with having skills borrowed from him and complete with the chaos race.
      So maybe a even fight?

    • @naokifudou9892
      @naokifudou9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@someguyparagon5273 Imagine Demi-Kun and Sanat Gaea Rage at the same time the earth is already destroyed.

    • @someguyparagon5273
      @someguyparagon5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@naokifudou9892
      That's why the fight would take place in Amala Network. I'm pretty sure most of Demi-Fiend hard hitting attack would destroy a continent or something along the lines...
      Either way the fight is going to be crazy!

    • @jackour8167
      @jackour8167 ปีที่แล้ว

      Demi-fiend would crush Sanat bruh

    • @novelkars835
      @novelkars835 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@someguyparagon5273 Continent? End of Nocturne demi-fiend withstands a blast from Kagutsuchi that must have been universe/multiverse tier. Not to mention Kagutsuchi's infinite light that he uses throughout the battle. I'd imagine that the whole multiverse would be at risk in a serious battle involving demi-fiend.

  • @CarlosSilva-bh4bi
    @CarlosSilva-bh4bi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the dialogue was mute?

    • @Jacob-mr8if
      @Jacob-mr8if ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dlc has no voice acting

  • @darthsombra2102
    @darthsombra2102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I am the Sanat.

  • @christopherbravo1813
    @christopherbravo1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    i feel like Atlus is biased in favor of Chaos.

    • @Докторпарадокс
      @Докторпарадокс 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Japan in general

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Докторпарадокс figures

    • @sock312
      @sock312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does this boss have to do with that though?

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sock312 the Ancient of Days was portrayed as wanting to kill everyone, while Sanat was portrayed as just testing the people of Infernal Tokyo.

    • @sock312
      @sock312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christopherbravo1813 well yeah he’s “testing”
      People in infernal Tokyo by fighting them to the death because that’s how it is in twisted Tokyo

  • @alucard002x
    @alucard002x 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wub wub

  • @kanna-san.
    @kanna-san. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    worst design in the game imo

    • @wommpa
      @wommpa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      I feel as if the Design can be as chaotic as chaotic can be
      Freaky and all over the place, no sense of a uniform design.

    • @BigBossZUCO
      @BigBossZUCO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The worst design is the ugly thing with the pheromones, Yaso Magatsuhi

    • @PeteKachew
      @PeteKachew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It kinda makes sense; King of Chaos has a completely chaotic design. ...Though, most of IV's new demons and old redesigned demons have just as chaotic forms. I like Kaneko's demon designs better because his are simple, straight-forward, and memorable. Ishida's demons all look like meshed monsters, but I guess it fits IV's universe.

    • @porkyminchasc1150
      @porkyminchasc1150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      They all look like Eldritch horror abominations and I love that.

    • @jamfingers55
      @jamfingers55 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fanjanhong * which one is "constipated Thor?"

  • @cgcurctct8ccottccricorc8rc86
    @cgcurctct8ccottccricorc8rc86 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Isnt he supposed to look like a 16 year old?