@@kimosabehmar1671 if I'm being honest as long as the Liquid roster is satisfied, the target's performance doesn't really matter (unless they demand prime Fnoc).
5:50 kiboy already did a good setup but kairi's skill is on cooldown. Sanz and cw's dmg isn't enough to finish them. Like wtf, do you guys not communicate at all???
Onic just doesn’t improve because they dont have competition in MPL ID, if only they still have a worthy rival like the past RRQ. But now they were dominating the MPL - ID.
When ONIC won msc then ESL with ID vs ID Grand finals I thought it was going to be ID era once again. But now Malaysia is close to being the 2nd vest region. The toxic fans and the management is what making MPL ID a 💩 show. If they continue being this way I wouldn't be surprised If NA would surpass them in the future.
this is the same fate of srg guys.. after onic won dominating all opponents in msc and snapdragon last year they got target lock.. many teams decoded them and exposed their weakness bren is the first one who make that hole BIG... indo only got onic as a s tier team malay has only srg .. if they got decoded those regions have nothing else...
@@khai4937 ph got rsg,blacklist,omega etc that has international championship title dude.. bren getting beaten will not end ph dominants... there is liquid and more.. ph doesn't have only 1 team to represent 🤷 see how liquid ended srg 126days winstreak.. see told yah they are not invincible their win on bren sometimes is on comeback not pure dominance...
Ph coaches are really smart. I can't remember any team winning msc and m-series lately with a head coach from other country. It is always a Filipino. Glad the other regions realized that. Tic Tac, arcadia, yeb, ducky these guys have been dominating lately
BREN was testing draft by using Terizla Roam and even khufra Roam to prepare them when they fight SRG again. This is how confident they are to win against ONIC and how ONIC is no longer considered as a threat to them anymore. 4 times matchup and instead of getting a little bit of advantage over time, ONIC played even more badly now. Honestly at this point just change the roster and the coach. They will never win against BREN at this point.
Onic still strong but i think their decision when teamfight is a problem now...maybe because captain buts didnt play so their decision making sometime seem silly when teamfight...
@@elitekitano8804owgwen is a top khufra player before he was scouted/amateur days but due to change of meta, he hasn't been using it much prior seasons. On the other hand tho, that terizla roam is a bit of an experimental pick imo. You see it a lot in rg in ph but not in competitions.
srg will suffer the same fate as onic as time goes by, onic was once a dominant team, feared by teams and always winning and dominating their mpl region but eventually ph teams already adapted to them... thats the disadvantage when you only have 1 strong team in your mpl region...
Small tournament but you (onic) participated anyway?for what?for fun only?cmon,you need the money and you need the trophy.you can't throw that REASON to us.. saving strats for M6?cmon! 😂😂😂
The way i see it, Onic didn’t get weak, its just that they can’t keep up with other teams in other regions, because they don’t have a rival/competition in MPL-ID. They dominate mpl id for four seasons. THE ONE THAT SHOULD IMPROVE ARE THE TEAMS IN MPL-ID.
SRG is going to face the same fate of Onic. No doubt SRG is a great team. But without a good team to compete with their region their growth will eventually stall.
Kairi will not get a guaranteed mpl ph champ or slot for msc/mseries,but in indo you can say almost 100% guaranteed to get the tickets to those tournaments.
in order for a team to get stronger they need to fight to much stronger team , if onic keep winning on there region where there's no room for improvement then its already a lost while APBREN keeps competing internationally every single year that's the reason the tag line PINAS lang MALAKAS because the improvement of this region is getting better every single year, patch or update from MLBB ,
Onic needs another PH import either exp or goldlaner to compete against top teams internationally. But other indo teams should step up as lack of competition locally would not be good for them (this also goes for Malaysia) The problem on 1 team only dominating your local tournaments is the overall improvement because of lack of competition (they became stagnant)
Onic exp is too weak so it's hard for jungler Kairi, a good exp is a must for team to dominate, when I play jungle , it's easier if we have strong exp.. I think onic has better synergy with Butts as exp Anyways I'm not a hater guys, I respect them all, I'm just a normal player giving my honest opinions, feel free to share yours , no hate just love for all pro players. I really do hope Onic gets strong for the upcoming M-Series
They're still a decent team. A playoff contender for sure its just that other teams are improving their game better. This normally happen in all other sport when you have no competition in your region.
Ako lang ba nakapansin na lumakas lang si kairi mag assasin dahil utility ang meta non kasi ngayon assassin's vs assassin's parang andali niya lamangan kagaya ni karl laging ginagap si kairi
Nothing new, I guess? Onic is just going back to how they were before Kairi and Yeb joined. PH teams just needed time to figure Kairi and Yeb out. IMO Kiboy is overrated and doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame yet.
Can we stop putting "Downfall of ONIC?" In the thumbnail like it's even a question? Dude, ONIC lost m5 and the headline is like that, then lost again in GOTF and got another headline like that, early exited in MSC and got another headline like that, and now here it is again. If it's for the first time then understandable, but Is it so hard agreeing that Onic already went down the drain since GOTF that we have to put headlines like this everytime? They're over since then, this is not even surprising.
bren can win against srg dude.. they just keep choking they can't end without an error .. watch srg they keep winning on comeback if they face bren.. 😅 after that bren got tilted and loses the match😂 srg won't last long.. some team will decoded them for sure .. they are not invincible like onic before..
A call for PH teams from a PH fan Do same sets of ban against SRG (ling, fanny particularly) unless we have the 1st pick Then after this tourna as preparation for M6, don't scrim against other regions (PH vs PH only) let them scrim against each other except us, use our own MPL PH as preparation. Let's see how they do M6 These regions bragging against PH needs to know their place.
If SRG losses to FCAP in the low bracket finals they are starting falling apart Kramm kept on making mistakes lately and Innocent cannot keep up against Benny when they got serious but with the current resting time I hope they recover though
Before;
Kiboy: Indonesia still the strongest
Now;
Kiboy: We needs rest, we playing non-stop and we dead tired
And when asked about how sure they gonna win m5, he said 100%😂 I guess that overconfident backfired and they are getting left behind now
LMAO BREN literally played non stop since SEAGAMES yet they still play better.
Revenge must've felt sweet for Liquid after all that time of waiting. 🫡
@@GenX1692I don't think so, they just beat a worn out past prime trash plays onic. I don't think that's very satisfying.
@@kimosabehmar1671 if I'm being honest as long as the Liquid roster is satisfied, the target's performance doesn't really matter (unless they demand prime Fnoc).
5:50 kiboy already did a good setup but kairi's skill is on cooldown. Sanz and cw's dmg isn't enough to finish them. Like wtf, do you guys not communicate at all???
It was a desperation play they know if the lord gets taken chances are they are gonna lose so they just risked it
easier said than done
I think Onic is cooked because enemies know their weakness already. AP Bren does not respect them at all. 😮
Onic just doesn’t improve because they dont have competition in MPL ID, if only they still have a worthy rival like the past RRQ. But now they were dominating the MPL - ID.
@@OxygenC2 They don't have a good team to compete with in their on region..That's why their growth stall.
When ONIC won msc then ESL with ID vs ID Grand finals I thought it was going to be ID era once again. But now Malaysia is close to being the 2nd vest region. The toxic fans and the management is what making MPL ID a 💩 show. If they continue being this way I wouldn't be surprised If NA would surpass them in the future.
10:34 supermarco pos layla emote 😂 disrespect man
this is the same fate of srg guys.. after onic won dominating all opponents in msc and snapdragon last year they got target lock.. many teams decoded them and exposed their weakness bren is the first one who make that hole BIG...
indo only got onic as a s tier team malay has only srg .. if they got decoded those regions have nothing else...
the same way ap bren got washed 3 times by srg 😂
@@khai4937now echo is slowly decoding them lol. No team is invincible no matter how good the players are. It's a battle for coaches.
@@khai4937 ph got rsg,blacklist,omega etc that has international championship title dude.. bren getting beaten will not end ph dominants...
there is liquid and more.. ph doesn't have only 1 team to represent 🤷 see how liquid ended srg 126days winstreak.. see told yah they are not invincible their win on bren sometimes is on comeback not pure dominance...
@@whin0079humble that beet-ch😭 own it and cook it🔥👏😂
Ph coaches are really smart.
I can't remember any team winning msc and m-series lately with a head coach from other country. It is always a Filipino.
Glad the other regions realized that.
Tic Tac, arcadia, yeb, ducky these guys have been dominating lately
BREN was testing draft by using Terizla Roam and even khufra Roam to prepare them when they fight SRG again. This is how confident they are to win against ONIC and how ONIC is no longer considered as a threat to them anymore.
4 times matchup and instead of getting a little bit of advantage over time, ONIC played even more badly now. Honestly at this point just change the roster and the coach. They will never win against BREN at this point.
TLPH is losing
@@baphometrag7751 tied now 😭😭
@@baphometrag7751hey
@@baphometrag7751cry
@@baphometrag7751your comment aged badly so fast hahaha
Onic still strong but i think their decision when teamfight is a problem now...maybe because captain buts didnt play so their decision making sometime seem silly when teamfight...
Feel sorry for onic they really go all out facing apbren hope they come back with much more strong spirit and mental.loved from Malaysia
Trial card expired 😂
ONIC ID is cooked bro 😢
The "Onic can't take their revenge against bren since m5" continues 😂
AP.BREN THE ONIC NIGHTMARE
Either onic haven got over that lost from M5 or they really got out drafted
More than 5 rematch
It's clear AP Bren >>>>> Onic id
Bren real counter for Onic
Out drafted? BRO TERIZLA ROAMM AND OWGWEN KHUFRA MANN. They were no longer that strong of a team. Even BREN didnt respect them
What are you talking about?
Outdrafted?bro they picked treizla roam and onic almost lost to them...
@@elitekitano8804owgwen is a top khufra player before he was scouted/amateur days but due to change of meta, he hasn't been using it much prior seasons. On the other hand tho, that terizla roam is a bit of an experimental pick imo. You see it a lot in rg in ph but not in competitions.
srg will suffer the same fate as onic as time goes by, onic was once a dominant team, feared by teams and always winning and dominating their mpl region but eventually ph teams already adapted to them... thats the disadvantage when you only have 1 strong team in your mpl region...
1st time seeing terizla roamer...
Yeah. But in RG a lot playing that hero in roam.🤣
Onic just saving their starts for M6.
SPS just a small tournament, no need to all out on this low tier event. 🙄🙄
Low or high prize, its for player salary and Trophy for ORG.
Stupid reasons bruuuhhhh😢
Small tournament but you (onic) participated anyway?for what?for fun only?cmon,you need the money and you need the trophy.you can't throw that REASON to us.. saving strats for M6?cmon! 😂😂😂
Dont worry guys. Onic will comeback and win... Maybe in M100?
Nah bruh y'all are wrong. They'll win at MSC 2420 and M69
The way i see it, Onic didn’t get weak, its just that they can’t keep up with other teams in other regions, because they don’t have a rival/competition in MPL-ID. They dominate mpl id for four seasons. THE ONE THAT SHOULD IMPROVE ARE THE TEAMS IN MPL-ID.
SRG is going to face the same fate of Onic. No doubt SRG is a great team. But without a good team to compete with their region their growth will eventually stall.
Bren & onic are like srg & echo. Scrim together again and again and again
They contest even the purple buff, this indo team. Indo is falling behind and Kairi too. Just go home brother you cant improve in Indo no more.😢
Kairi will not get a guaranteed mpl ph champ or slot for msc/mseries,but in indo you can say almost 100% guaranteed to get the tickets to those tournaments.
Ph forcing Indo to uninstall ml
SRG forcing ph to eat pagpag
😂
Ph vs ph in Malaysia 🤣🤣@@matpayne8866
Ph vs ph in malaysia @@matpayne8866
@@matpayne8866 don't cry. You guys are irrelevant anyways
@@matpayne8866lmao ph vs ph in malaysia? 3 weeks MY era? should I continue? 😂
4:34 THE BEST TANK 💀 GOT HUMBLE DOWN QUICKLY AFTER THIS GAME(DEFINITELY A FLUKE)
They actually played well here but tough luck
If onic becomes champion again in mpl id. Say goodbye to your m6 dreams indonesia
in order for a team to get stronger they need to fight to much stronger team , if onic keep winning on there region where there's no room for improvement then its already a lost while APBREN keeps competing internationally every single year that's the reason the tag line PINAS lang MALAKAS because the improvement of this region is getting better every single year, patch or update from MLBB ,
Onic needs another PH import either exp or goldlaner to compete against top teams internationally. But other indo teams should step up as lack of competition locally would not be good for them (this also goes for Malaysia)
The problem on 1 team only dominating your local tournaments is the overall improvement because of lack of competition (they became stagnant)
can't even win against drunk khufra.
Seeing kiboy taunting before even winning the series is😂😂😂😂
I love the female caster ... Oooh..ahaha
there is no downfall if u r called sky kings in hell. sky in hell is literally the bottom
Kiboy shouts like they have already won
Nasa top 4 parin nman sila sa world tourney
Onic exp is too weak so it's hard for jungler Kairi, a good exp is a must for team to dominate, when I play jungle , it's easier if we have strong exp.. I think onic has better synergy with Butts as exp
Anyways I'm not a hater guys, I respect them all, I'm just a normal player giving my honest opinions, feel free to share yours , no hate just love for all pro players. I really do hope Onic gets strong for the upcoming M-Series
goes to say that it is very competitive this time around. Anyone can win
onic lang naman malakas sa indo pero kung mawawala si kairi at YEB malamang wala ng indo ang makakapasok sa playoffs sa international
DEFENDING MSC23 champion
Lose in msc24
Esl defending champion
Lose in esl24
Wtf happened to onic????🛫🛫🤣🤣🤣
They're still a decent team. A playoff contender for sure its just that other teams are improving their game better. This normally happen in all other sport when you have no competition in your region.
Degraded from an S+ tier team to at best an A+ tier
"PH Era is over" hahaha patawa
Ako lang ba nakapansin na lumakas lang si kairi mag assasin dahil utility ang meta non kasi ngayon assassin's vs assassin's parang andali niya lamangan kagaya ni karl laging ginagap si kairi
Why that Kiboy is shouting?😂
Sabi sau kairi sa aurora ka nalng hahahaa
KAIRI can't focus because of sze!! Sze nerf KAIRI so hard.
Hahaha! I saw Kiboy trashtalk game 1. And he loses the bo3 :))
Nothing new, I guess? Onic is just going back to how they were before Kairi and Yeb joined.
PH teams just needed time to figure Kairi and Yeb out.
IMO Kiboy is overrated and doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame yet.
Nasa 30% na lang team chemistry ng onic id
ALBERTTT IN 🙏🙏
where is buts?
Destroyed by flap bro
Can we stop putting "Downfall of ONIC?" In the thumbnail like it's even a question? Dude, ONIC lost m5 and the headline is like that, then lost again in GOTF and got another headline like that, early exited in MSC and got another headline like that, and now here it is again. If it's for the first time then understandable, but Is it so hard agreeing that Onic already went down the drain since GOTF that we have to put headlines like this everytime? They're over since then, this is not even surprising.
these clippers gotta feed their girlfriends man you gotta understand 😂😂😂😂😂😂
They'd want to put decent respect to the most overhyped team during their 4th downfall in a row to hide their fraudulence 😂
Bro they almost lost to a terizla roam
Kairi you neen Jakol time to became strong😂
Sanz tp got nerfed
SRG Counter AP Bren
AP Bren counter Onic ID
Poor Onic id / Kairi esport carry Indopride for years
I'm sure Indo gonna bash them
more like ap bren counter liquid ph. now i just want to see echo counter srg to complete the rock-paper-scissors lmao
bren can win against srg dude.. they just keep choking they can't end without an error .. watch srg they keep winning on comeback if they face bren.. 😅 after that bren got tilted and loses the match😂
srg won't last long.. some team will decoded them for sure .. they are not invincible like onic before..
halata yung babaeng annoncer na bias ahaha kada patay kay kairi napapabuntong hininga eh 😂😂😂
Come on just take kelra or a ph exp laner onic then i think you will do better,only one ph player is not enough.
pina isa lng gusto pa manalo
Can't wait for Zekilled to upload "SRG is your Snapdragon CHAMIPONS" tomorrow 🇲🇾🔥
im scared that you will jinx it but at the same time im excited
Can't wait for Hunyelo to become monkey
chill bro im malaysian but even echo is looking good right now, but hope srg win the whole tournament
I'm fucking come at you if the jinx happen because of you
Tlph beat them
Easy server - konoha
😂
A call for PH teams from a PH fan
Do same sets of ban against SRG (ling, fanny particularly) unless we have the 1st pick
Then after this tourna as preparation for M6, don't scrim against other regions (PH vs PH only) let them scrim against each other except us, use our own MPL PH as preparation. Let's see how they do M6
These regions bragging against PH needs to know their place.
If SRG losses to FCAP in the low bracket finals they are starting falling apart Kramm kept on making mistakes lately and Innocent cannot keep up against Benny when they got serious but with the current resting time I hope they recover though
Easy server 😂
gusto nyo maging contender kunin nyo si kelra