其實聲夢只是一個比賽，不是代表所有，正如mag所講一場精彩的表演比起名次和獎項更重要。 我認同張佳添制作作的看法,錯不在AEREN,分數和決定都不是一人可以造成。好似當時GIN LEE OUT STEVEN,留下AEREN,JW留HUGO,淘汰WINDY, 大家都會議論紛紛,還在導師歌手的SNS罵她們,我覺得大家太過偏激,沒有理性看事情。AEREN的確正如AGA所講不斷有突破,好努力,好勤力,大家應該支持和鼓勵她,每個人都好努力,好勤力,好投入,追夢的過程重要過輸贏,得到的比失去的更多。AEREN係SUPERMAN和跳舞街表演是很好。felix把聲好聽，只要再改左啲味精，仲有負能量的性格會更好。大家都會記得felix係聲夢演出過月半小夜曲和洋蔥的精彩演出,如windu泡沫和bang bang,gigi沒有你還是愛你,愛情陷阱！chantel戀愛預告,矛盾一生！we are the legend！ felix，archie，kaitlyn，4姐妹gigi，windy，chantel，yumi，rock都各有市場,有能力當歌手！ 正如MAG所講,好好享受每一刻。名次和輸贏不重要，將來大家記得你的名字和成功不會完全記得你過去參加過什麼的比賽，更重要是你帶來一場精彩的表演,一首歌曲，一個舞蹈。如張佳添制作人，每次BOYZ和TWINS一起，大家都會記得你制作的代表曲死性不改。好似自己喜歡既日本國民偶像一樣，大家會記得人生好似飛機一樣有高有低的365日紙飛行機，大家都識跳的戀愛幸運曲奇等等。正如巨聲系列許廷鑑，胡鴻鈞，R&B好叻既Jay Fung，甚至冠軍既林欣彤係音樂同人生有高有低。大家台下付出的努力和汗水，台上盡情享受演出，如一個演唱會和朋友存在的fans有更多的互動。一起的回憶。這些都會讓歌手偶像忘記排練的努力,過去的辛酸。大家在過程學習演繹一首歌曲的處理，夢想實現前大家的努力和付出，得到一班好戰友，很好關係的兄弟姐妹，和導師歌手主理人學員好好感情，大家好似一個大家庭一起的美好回憶🥰大家的投入，每個舞台的演出比起獎項和榮譽更重要！ 偶像藝人歌手希望記得的是他們的用心，努力和熱誠🔥一首歌曲，一個舞蹈可以成為代表作，一個花邊新聞，一個行為可能付出他們一切的努力和成果。 最後，自己喜歡超過10多年的日本偶像yukirin罕有病需要做手術和休養超過一年，她很少將自己的煩惱和不開心和fans説，台上和sns都希望自己的fans和她一樣樂觀積極正能量，yukirin説過自己的fans yukirin world住民是重要支柱是朋友，希望她手術成功，一切安好，元氣開心的在舞台再唱歌跳舞，等待yukirin重回藝能界之日，也希望聲夢的大家不要計較名次和輸贏，學習和得到的比失去的更多，總有一天大家的願望都會成真！
I feel like don't hate the player, hate the game applies in this scenario lol. Aeren is innocent and does not deserve the hate. (But Felix should have stayed)
thanks for speaking about this issue clayton sir! it’s definitely not aeren’s fault and many people have been directing hate towards her when it’s clearly a result of this round’s 賽制. unfortunately, i think felix was disadvantaged from being the first performer, as the judges seemed to be more lenient in giving lights to the contestants after him. because of this 賽制 (each judge giving a yes/no), i feel like there was a fine line between who got to stay/ who had to leave. perhaps a better scoring system should be in place for the judges, such as: adjusting the scores after all the contestants have performed so that there isn’t any biases for the order that they perform in, a ranking system (best performance to least preferred performance), a scoring system where each of the 25 judges give a score out of 4 (and each participant gets a score out of 100), or each of the 25 judges give a score out of 100 and they take the average score for the contestant.
Thanks for your comment. I believe it is a good and successful show as long as each and every contestants knows he/she has tried his/her best already. Actually, there are many known and unknown factors which can influence which contestants can stay or be fouled. Last but not least, all contestants whether they can stay or have been fouled, I hope they never give up. Being consistent and keep learning and practicing properly, eventually, they can be stars in the future. They all have potentials which are needed to be explored and developed. Cheers to all of you! Again, thank you Mr. Cheung. As I mentioned last time, I always enjoy your comment. 👍🏻👍🏻
Well said Clayton. Respect! I did thumbs down Aeren’s video because her performance was not up to par and I considered it the worst that night. Viewers’ frustration has got to have an outlet so unfortunately she had to take the blunt. I do hope Felix will get more opportunities as he truly deserves a redemption. He will go far if keep pushing forward.
首先多謝張老師的分析,老師跟我們支Aeren的人意見差不多,Felix低分真係跟評審最大直接關係,第一個出場係致命傷,其實有人分析過,Felix跟Aeren每回合的分數都唔係太高...其實佢兩個都係偏低分的...只是那班Hater: youngforever, 888 Forever love, Richard Ku 還要一直開youtube小號去留言,每次都一直出留言去攻擊Aeren..又話後台那樣...其實佢地每個人都有自己的亮點...如果真有留意youtube,其實felix每回合的每條片點擊數都少過Aeren的,除了第10集條片....所以要真係講可塑性..評判可能覺得Aeren真係高D....運氣都係實力的一部份....所以只能怪Felix唔好彩,並唔係去鬧Aeren,其實唔支持唔緊要..真心支持的人是會去支持的學員度俾鼓勵..並唔係一味去唔鐘意的學員度惡意批評, 人身攻擊.....Aeren係一個好堅強的女仔,希望Aeren表現更大進步,好好學習唱歌技巧,表演自己另一面給大家睇...
I think the judges want to see more creativity than a stable good boring performance. I feel really bad for Aeren for getting hate on something that she can't control. The judges give her 13 green lights and give Felix 11 green lights. It is not Aeren's fault. Aeren didn't even post her recent performance on her ig.
Yea i dont see how she is to blame in this case since her scores were reasonable.Some Ppl are being unnessary mean to this girl. She deserved that 13 but only Felix was truly underscored..
@@yzspring I personality don't think that his score is underscored. 1. His stage is plain and nothing to see, only his voice and singing stand out a little bit, which is not enough to win a pass from judges 2. like one of the judges said, he told the wrong story. The song is slow and requires strong storytelling. 3. The song itself is not a good song to sing in a competition. He chose the wrong song to compete. Hard to win.
To add to the comment. People need to stop saying the show is rigged. The show is truly rigged if they follow what the audience dislikes. The judge has their own opinion/criteria to give a pass and I don't think we should criticize the judge either. People should start to accept that people have different opinions.
@@lc-tw1uf well said on this. I dont think the show is rigged as well and the judges' opinions should be taken in consideration . However undeniably the result was hard to accept because in my opinion Felix has the best(passable) perf that night aside of Kaitlyn. In reality winning in a comp doesnt really going do much for them if their singing/perf doesnt last an impression to the audiences. Felix for once did pretty well that night in this case although playing safe.
I agree. Poor Aeren. I do however think that there should be a mechanism where the judges would need to (or they want to) explain how they could put a red light on Felix, but a green light for Aeren. If the explanation is convincing, then people will have an easier time swallowing this. I do think that for a show like this, what the organizer tries to do, is to see how many "likes" a contestant have from the industry people, and hopefully those would become "industry capital" or resources that will help to promote him/her in their future careers. It would then make sense because it would seem like Aeren could be more "marketable" for industry people, while Felix would be somebody like So Wing Hong. Not going to be eye-catching but will slowly demonstrate his abilities if and when opportunities come.
If the current trend of judging criteria continues I won't be surprised if Aeren makes it to the final 5 and Hugo, Kaitlyn and Archie get eliminated!!!!
Aeren definitely doesn't deserve all the hate she gets, but I do think Felix was eliminated prematurely. I think why people are upset is because those who objectively sing better are being eliminated faster than the likes of Aeren & Hugo who are more like "idol" singers. There's nothing wrong with idol singers because they have a place in the pop market, but I think a majority of audiences prefer contestants with "good" and "beautiful" voices - they're the ones who will have longevity in the industry. There's no denying that Aeren works hard and is a nice, easy to root for girl, but she's not solo material yet. I agree with your previous assessment that she's better suited to be in a girl group.
I agree with u no more！！ Part of the hateful feelings to Aeron is due to her off pitch even starting fm the v beginning of her singing. Thats why some of us may think Aeron does not deserve the 13 lights. Off pitch is always regarded as unacceptable in a singing contest. Undoubtedly, the quality of singing should be emphazied first. So I m upset to see Felix who good voice and quality singing is being fouled in the same round with a weaker contestent like Aeron.
片中講得不淸楚。Felix 11盞綠燈， Aeren 13 盞綠燈
聽眾因為當felix一直唱得較Aeren好，值得留低，完全係先入為主的情意結，但每次表現都吾同，而且今次吾衹係比賽更加係造星，評判要考慮好多長遠因素配合大會策略。
@@francisng3149 觀眾嘅反應已經證明左Felix嘅市場價值，香港樂壇特別係男歌手真係無咁需要亮麗嘅外型，例子多不勝數。
多谢张老师为Felix 平反，你好Man啊！说得好好啊 ：）
@@francisng3149 心中
felix good
張老師我絕對認同你嘅講法，Aeren真的好無辜評判又唔係佢。分數Aeren係控制唔到嘅，但網民有好多惡意評擊。希望網民可以睇到張老師呢段片，可以對事不對人。😔
對！賽果是評判比分的，錯不是她，但做馬案很明顯的！歌唱比賽呀！走音太離譜了，以為真的網民聽不到嗎？👂網民點會睇得過眼呢！一定平反啦….
終於有人替Aeren講下嘢啦！多謝張老師！
多謝張老師為Aeren反駁haters嘅惡言惡語。希望Aeren睇到呢條片，加油繼續改善佢自己嘅弱點
多謝張老師講公道說話，比賽結果唔係參賽者控制，真係冇理由怪晒AEREN。
加上FELIX第一個出場比賽，評審比分唔多唔少都手緊啲
這個評論絕對絕對係自有星夢以來，所有老師及業介之中最有優秀最有 point 嘅評論！佩服佩服！叧外，那晚嘅出場次序對賽果亦都可能有影響！我對兩位當晚嘅表現都十分欣賞！小小年紀，如此修為，實屬難得
希望所有其它嘅評審能看到張老師這段評論 👏👏
絕對認同。我也覺得 出場次序對賽果有影響
第一個出場係唔著數的，一來自己會比較緊張，二來評判俾分會手緊d。
感謝張老師比較中立同客觀意見，希望Aeren盡快可以調整心態繼續比賽，Felix可以從比賽中學到既知識同技巧增強自己實力，期待兩個人之後既音樂上表現。
今次的淘汰賽是按各評審即時的按燈數目，是每個評審的獨立決定，並不是三個導師商量後而淘汰的，所以我覺得賽制是公平！看到Aeren 一面倒被網民攻擊, 實在登她不值！她也只不過是一個20歲的女仔，為比賽盡力，做好自己的本份，而且每個項目亦見用心設計，落力演出！所以希望Aeren不要為此而受到太大的挫敗感，繼續專心努力日後的比賽！加油! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
去睇下佢條片？勁多倒讚+惡意攻擊
其實真係唔關aeren事, 我覺得佢一路留落黎都有進步又好努力, 所以唔應該怪佢呀😭😭😭
嗯
感謝張老師講番句公道說話，我唔知鬧Aeren 嘅人係Felix粉絲、聲夢觀眾定其實係有班haters 煽動情緒，但如果係前者，希望大家可以畀多啲諒解Aeren，又唔係佢自己決定邊個留低邊個要foul，而且唱得唔好，佢自己都唔好過，聲夢15人係一個團隊，佢哋私底下都friend，名次係一時，往後大家記得嘅係大家喺台上嘅表演，希望大家鍾意聲夢就畀多啲包容🙏🏼🙏🏼
認同你嘅觀點。但其實點解咁多人好似針對Aeren，唔係因為佢個人，而係不滿評審或TVB營造出嚟嘅結果啫。亦真係唔明白點解Felix點解咁少綠燈，如果評審講解下Felix有乜嘢失誤令佢哋俾紅燈可能會好啲囉。
咁證明tvb或者評審係呢方面做得唔夠好，tvb應該要檢討下，唔好浪費左製作團體既心血
The voice of Felix is special who can sing the good song. Actually, he was full of potential and I like his performance.
張老師真的有大俠情懐，正義感澎湃，去到不能不說，非常可敬🙏 這班學員值得鼓勵，為佢地拍掌，每一個傾盡全力，不怕困難，衷心祝福佢地❤️❤️
其實聲夢只是一個比賽，不是代表所有，正如mag所講一場精彩的表演比起名次和獎項更重要。
我認同張佳添制作作的看法,錯不在AEREN,分數和決定都不是一人可以造成。好似當時GIN LEE OUT STEVEN,留下AEREN,JW留HUGO,淘汰WINDY, 大家都會議論紛紛,還在導師歌手的SNS罵她們,我覺得大家太過偏激,沒有理性看事情。AEREN的確正如AGA所講不斷有突破,好努力,好勤力,大家應該支持和鼓勵她,每個人都好努力,好勤力,好投入,追夢的過程重要過輸贏,得到的比失去的更多。AEREN係SUPERMAN和跳舞街表演是很好。felix把聲好聽，只要再改左啲味精，仲有負能量的性格會更好。大家都會記得felix係聲夢演出過月半小夜曲和洋蔥的精彩演出,如windu泡沫和bang bang,gigi沒有你還是愛你,愛情陷阱！chantel戀愛預告,矛盾一生！we are the legend！
felix，archie，kaitlyn，4姐妹gigi，windy，chantel，yumi，rock都各有市場,有能力當歌手！
正如MAG所講,好好享受每一刻。名次和輸贏不重要，將來大家記得你的名字和成功不會完全記得你過去參加過什麼的比賽，更重要是你帶來一場精彩的表演,一首歌曲，一個舞蹈。如張佳添制作人，每次BOYZ和TWINS一起，大家都會記得你制作的代表曲死性不改。好似自己喜歡既日本國民偶像一樣，大家會記得人生好似飛機一樣有高有低的365日紙飛行機，大家都識跳的戀愛幸運曲奇等等。正如巨聲系列許廷鑑，胡鴻鈞，R&B好叻既Jay Fung，甚至冠軍既林欣彤係音樂同人生有高有低。大家台下付出的努力和汗水，台上盡情享受演出，如一個演唱會和朋友存在的fans有更多的互動。一起的回憶。這些都會讓歌手偶像忘記排練的努力,過去的辛酸。大家在過程學習演繹一首歌曲的處理，夢想實現前大家的努力和付出，得到一班好戰友，很好關係的兄弟姐妹，和導師歌手主理人學員好好感情，大家好似一個大家庭一起的美好回憶🥰大家的投入，每個舞台的演出比起獎項和榮譽更重要！
偶像藝人歌手希望記得的是他們的用心，努力和熱誠🔥一首歌曲，一個舞蹈可以成為代表作，一個花邊新聞，一個行為可能付出他們一切的努力和成果。
最後，自己喜歡超過10多年的日本偶像yukirin罕有病需要做手術和休養超過一年，她很少將自己的煩惱和不開心和fans説，台上和sns都希望自己的fans和她一樣樂觀積極正能量，yukirin説過自己的fans yukirin world住民是重要支柱是朋友，希望她手術成功，一切安好，元氣開心的在舞台再唱歌跳舞，等待yukirin重回藝能界之日，也希望聲夢的大家不要計較名次和輸贏，學習和得到的比失去的更多，總有一天大家的願望都會成真！
Aeren加油！不要氣餒！讚同張老師講法，每個學員都很優秀，各有所長。
張sirTH-cam有好多評論音樂嘅人或者有啲TH-cam嘅資訊，係依個媒體發達既年代，有啲好值得欣賞同留意嘅短片同資訊，但係亦有啲就真係惡意批評，內容恐怖😱得令人難以想像！我好高興在這裏找到高質對的人，單憑你短片，我感受到你是一個有才華嘅正人君子，出邊有好多評論話（聲夢傳奇）這個節目造馬、評判收💰、亂淘汰人、導師未夠班、誤人子弟、點擊造假…….但在你短片中可感到你的真誠認真，實在令人敬佩，作出真實嘅分析….Aeren真係好無辜,成為箭靶！感謝你會為她發聲。其實你巳在第目中分析同講出答案Felix不會是一個平地一聲雷既歌手…而且佢喺TH-cam嘅點擊一路不高，節目播出後多數歌嘅點擊連10萬都不過……相返Aeren既跳舞街有近40萬、就算未知都有近20萬… 這個比較就說明佢雖然唱歌嘅技術冇Felix咁好，但係如果以一個觀衆聽眾來説以點擊率就正明Aeren既觀賞價值就高於只有靚聲既Felix….佢最大問題係佢自己……好多不足…..甚至令人有一點點悶、沒趣同乏味、沒有期待！同時林奕匡嘅幫助同指導亦都不足！可惜我五音不全如果唔係成為你嘅學生就好！另外請你幫幫張曼玉同汪明荃佢哋成日被人笑魔音。😘
其實我都有留意,Felix的影響點擊率真心低,幾條片都低....那麼所謂登Felix唔抵的人...真係為鬧Aeren而鬧
刚才再看了一遍Felix 的分手总要在雨天的片段，Felix被淘汰，林奕匡 应该负很大责任，主要从歌词的分配来讲，林奕匡作为帮唱，感觉成了主唱，抢了Felix表现的机会。在歌曲后半段，应该带高潮的地方，Felix独唱段落林都给之加和音，没有让Felix多留表现的空间，林自己独唱部分却加了很多突出自我表演的唱法，让评委和观众都把焦点落到了林身上，所以对Felix很不公平的，Felix的声线和水平在这班学员中，应该可以排到前3名的！综合来讲，我个人认为第一应该会是Gigi，从演绎技巧和一路以来的稳定性来讲都好好！但我相信Felix的前路会很好的，随时止步8强！张老师都分析得好好！
打错字 不是随时止步8强，而是虽然止步8强
亦舒常說：「懷才必遇」，這是真的，因為成功是透過不斷的努力，經歷失敗再嘗試而達成。
張老師所言甚是，最起碼你有說Felix的燈是偏低，是出人意表，我想聽眾最主要想有人能夠認同自己的感受。
我自己也反思了整個星期，為何這一集引起如此多負評，其實也許是一個集體意識，許多人對於不公平的控訴，因為大家都相信評判是專業，但卻出了一個出人意表的賽果，Felix出局，Aeren成為代罪羔羊。
成件事，我想每一個人都有很多反思位，有人遇到不公平，就會攻擊幸運者；有人會替落敗者不值；有人會找客觀因素去解釋，去平伏自己的失落……我們也要接納自己有負面情緒，慢慢沉澱，慢慢消化，才能化作成長的動力。但當然最好不要傷害其他無辜的人，我贊同的。
好多人處理自己負面情緒的方法, 就是找一個對象去發洩, 往往都係錯重點
I feel like don't hate the player, hate the game applies in this scenario lol. Aeren is innocent and does not deserve the hate. (But Felix should have stayed)
thanks for speaking about this issue clayton sir! it’s definitely not aeren’s fault and many people have been directing hate towards her when it’s clearly a result of this round’s 賽制. unfortunately, i think felix was disadvantaged from being the first performer, as the judges seemed to be more lenient in giving lights to the contestants after him. because of this 賽制 (each judge giving a yes/no), i feel like there was a fine line between who got to stay/ who had to leave.
perhaps a better scoring system should be in place for the judges, such as: adjusting the scores after all the contestants have performed so that there isn’t any biases for the order that they perform in, a ranking system (best performance to least preferred performance), a scoring system where each of the 25 judges give a score out of 4 (and each participant gets a score out of 100), or each of the 25 judges give a score out of 100 and they take the average score for the contestant.
很公道的说法，很欣賞! 雖然Aeren 的唱功有待磨練，但Aeren 的可塑性的確比Felix 高。Aeren 亦好惨，Mag 突然受傷，無論在揀歌及练習都未能有充足的準備，所以可以理解為何表現不穩!
其實felix 輸大家會唔會諗吓，某程度上係關林奕匡事呢？因為其他參賽者的parter 都會比多少少時間去練習，而felix 呢對相對比較少。所以出嚟的效果比較差，如果要賴都係林奕匡，不是賴aeren.
即係話考第尾果個。冇理由去賴尾二果個㗎！
其實大多數網民(除咗個別）係話點解唔foul失誤咁多嘅Aener，而唔係話係佢嘅錯，根本就係個parter嘅問題，（講到哩part張老師已經暗示咗）佢嘅parter輕視比賽、起唔到導師嘅作用，講到練習都唔使講啦，自從佢哋busking之後就再無見過，其實佢咁忙又可必接哩個job呢？毀人前途又整臭自己個朵，何苦呢？話返轉頭，其實Felix見個parter咁唔靠譜點解唔自救或者向李’R求救呢？都係嗰句，算啦，都過咗去喇，再討論都無乜意思，一齊期待下聽晚有乜靚聲靚歌聽仲好啦！
林X匡冇用心去幫felix做勢，仲係處扮4條爆響口話定會輸，正一累人累物。
@@herojames4261 贊成👍
只可以講，Felix係輸比賽制，唔係輸比Aeren（雖然我都覺得Aeren表現未如理想）係可惜，但Felix有料嘅始終有人會知，加油
Aeren 好努力，一次比一次好，加油呀！做好自己就足夠啦。
認同老師，其實Aeren真係好無辜嘅，希望佢真係珍惜今次機會，下次做返個出色嘅表演，講俾大家知,佢係值得留低嘅。至於小林同學，今次其實係得多於失，真心，今次幫佢吸納咗好多關注，只要佢繼續努力再加伯樂，要成為新世代嘅蘇永康，並唔係一件難事。當然，希望TVB珍惜佢哋，善加栽培，香港樂壇绝對需要佢地。👏👏👏
Felix was one of my fav contestants. So sad he got eliminated… Tough being the first one
張老師說得很對， 點解要怪Aeren, Aeren唱得唔好都入到圍都唔係佢自己控制，要怪緊係怪班比分嘅導師囉，偏幫Aeren,我係撐Felix,張老師唔啱聽就delete我留言，就算被delete我都要幫Felix 發聲
很欣賞張老師的中肯評論. 我也同意比賽有時好講運氣, Felix 第一個出場評判通常俾分較緊, 出場前森美訪問導師歌手意見, 他的導師歌手Phil竟然說預咗會輸！ 這對於信心不足的Felix是一個否定, 也可能間接影響了評判的觀感！ 在表演中也反映了Phil沒有賽前好好的和Felix 去夾, Phil不明白怎樣做一個好導師, 他應該是去托起Felix 的演出, 但他竟然唱得好過Felix, 把他比下去, 加上分手總要在雨天這首歌有點悶, 不適合比賽唱, 佢地又唱唔出那種應有的傷感氣氛, 集合所有不利因素, Felix的低分有其原因, 也屬於不好運！ 張老師也有提Jay Fung, 也的而且確Jay Fung是一位出色的導師歌手, 正如Jay說, 沙沙的雨是一首很適合比赛唱的歌. 個人覺得這首歌很能帶起開心且有活力的氣氛. 在Archie的演出中, 處處見到他和Jay的合拍, Jay懂得托起Archie唱得更投入更好！ Archie的高分23盞綠燈Jay功不可沒！ Archie除了個人努力外, 也好好彩遇上Jay這個良師. Aeren 的表演雖然有其缺失, 但也可以看出她的努力. 評判很多是唱片公司的要員, 他們也可能同時在揀有潛質有特色的歌手. Aeren在台上有一種嫵媚野性的時代感, 能唱能跳, 好像張老師之前說Aeren適合做女團歌手, 所以也可能這樣為她多拿兩盞綠燈！ 比賽一定有輸贏, 人生總有高低. 其實每位星夢的學員包括Felix 和Aeren, 都做得很好, 有很多進步和成長, 真替他們感到高興！ 希望Felix和Aeren不要氣餒, 繼續發揮他們的歌唱潛能, 繼續努力！
大家仲要諗下,當年Jay Fung超級巨聲一樣係輸左..而家咪一樣發展得好好...比賽只是一個讓觀眾認識他們的起點....就算所有歌手都在一直學習中...
@@kelvinchandaily4464 下，Jay Fung當年參加巨聲係亞軍喎~
Aeren分最接近，唱得仲差過felix多多聲，甘一定有個比較之下，大家就覺得felix唔係應該被foul走,因為大家都有相同嘅感覺戥佢唔抵.
見咁多人支持我就想為負評A小姐的人作返個平反。
首先，點解咁多人dislike佢首愛是懷疑，說實在，唔止係難聽，係好high難聽，狗也不聽個隻難聽，如果你話13分都叫合理我就真係無話可說，又或者就如張老師你所講咁，我地d凡人聽唔到評判聽到的天籟之音，好老實，base on前幾集的比分標準，8分真心都比多佢，我唔否認可能有人為felix抱不平而故意dislike佢，但好多野日積月累，由木紋開始已差到依家，仲要Steven無辜被foul,一直以來佢冇次真係叫唱得好，如果佢有一次Gigi/蓮姐的表現的話可能今日就唔會比人鬧到咁甘，最重要係有人話佢係大台有後台，點都唔foul得，各種各樣令人覺得某大台根本就黑箱作業，觀眾亦質疑佢點解會入選15強添。
另外，雖然可能有d mean,但從來唔覺得娛樂圈/樂壇係咩清泉之地，對一個藝人公唔公平的言論就算吧啦！如果連網民的批評都受唔到，到時出商場show個d點？當紅歌手都比人柴台啦，Joey 05年係叱叱比人噓都係咁，我覺得入到娛樂圈就要受得壓力，那怕件事是否公平。
最後，我對張老師冇惡意，亦只係表達個人睇法，亦綜合返網民對佢的批評再分析返。只能講努力唔係大曬，個個都努力，唔通個個都冠軍？唱歌確實好靠天份，把聲生成點亦好重要，明顯A小姐各方面都先天不足，但又一直留係度冇被人foul,問心亦對其他人公唔公平?Steven 明明贏左自己個part都被gin lee foul走，成班人去gin lee ig插到佢唔敢出聲，再諗返依家乜真係對A小姐唔公平？
以上理性討論，不喜勿插
佢唯一合格的嗰次係唱Superman
張老師，多謝你一直以來欣賞Felix。其實好多網民鬧同畀dislike都係針對首歌，因為真係唔合格嘅表演，同埋已經黎到依個階段根本係唔應該出現嘅情況，唔係話努力兩個字就可以解釋到。至於Felix，今次的確有好多不利因素，亦不作無謂猜測，同時覺得佢今次收穫左好多觀眾緣，都算係好事。
Felix係會紅的，慢慢學到d板斧，假以時日會成功
相信Aeren ✨💥会爆发终有一天！她看到每次她个人✖超不过😭20分和差一点淘汰！相信她也开始害怕❎被淘汰！我相信🌟她应该会找回✨自信变厉害💥爆发！加油🔥🔥啊~Aeren💥
我可能是極少數like Aeren當晚的video和留言寫了兩段正評的人，Felix聲底是好，但Aeren也有其强項，起碼她肯去嘗試不同的歌路，有深情的Superman（贏了）、有跳唱的跳舞街（贏了）、也有性感型格路線的未知(贏了），歌唱比賽其實和格鬥遊戲一樣，各參賽者都有自己的必殺技，Felix的必殺技是賣聲的慢歌，而Aeren的必殺技是Rap，Aeren唱Rap就被人抨擊是「食老本」，那麼為何Felix唱慢歌賣聲就不是「食老本」呢？唱慢歌賣聲不只是Felix一個參賽者，但請問有那位參賽者敢去嘗試Aeren那些又長又多字唱得又快的Rap呢？Aeren唱Superman、跳舞街和未知都曾勝出，也有不少評判欣賞，video也有不少人給like，唱未知甚知有人讚她似容祖兒，她又有自己獨特而沒有其他參賽者敢挑戰的Rap歌路，唱「愛是懷疑」那段超長的Rap完全沒有錯失，甚至獲得兩個評判稱讚難度高，那為何她連取得僅僅合格的13分也沒有資格呢？為何說她一早應該被foul呢？抨擊說她頭段做得不好，但那不是在她失去的12分反映了出來嗎？說到走首，大熱GiGi也曾有過一次超嚴重的走首，為何又不説GiGi應該一早被foul呢？我也欣賞GiGi和Felix，但我覺得Aeren也有其獨特之處，所以我絕不認同Aeren是亳無戰鬥力應該一早被foul的一個參賽者，很多謝張老師有勇氣出來為Aeren說句公道話。
講得好好
未知佢對chantel輸左
@@char7160 謝謝指正，是我記錯了，贏的那場是Superman和跳舞街，但「未知」條片確實仍有不少正面評論，也確實有人説她似容祖兒。
@@char7160 容我多補充一句，「未知」雖然未能勝出，但條片有189K點擊，like有2.5K，dislike 472。所以Aeren的演出仍是獲肯定的。
@@hamsterbaby99 如果呢個點擊率你信，咁點解愛是懷疑你又唔服？
評分制有點問題，應該等幾個學員全部唱完再評分
其實Aeren 真係好慘，上次foul steven 之前又被插，今次又係咁，希望張老師呢條片可以幫佢減減壓，亦希望Aeren 真係可以爭氣。
對事不對人，你的分析提醒了喜歡Felix的觀眾（包括我）。Felix是最靚聲的男學員，期待他的聲夢旅程。PS. 很欣賞你的分析，on point，深入淺出。
張 Sir 支持您👍🏻真係錯不在 aeren 👍🏻
首先我相信觀眾比like或者dislike唔係亂比既，你睇張老師like既比例大家就知，張老師就呢條片我地已經知點張老師係事，一位好厚道既老師，respect !
觀眾比dislike 除左覺得對賽果感到唔公平之外，好大程度覺得Aeren每次都係低空飛過，暫時無一個performance 觀眾覺得佢個人特別好或者特別深刻，個dislike 可以話係對學員累積表現既一個指標，咁Aeren本人最應該做既係點樣繼續將自己長處繼續發揮，繼續改善自己短處去扭轉觀眾對佢既不喜愛，如果佢做到呢點，相信dislike 可以減少，因為聲夢宜家六強基本上除左Aeren, 其他參賽like既百分比高過dislike既百分比好多，期望Aeren可以做一個好有突破既performance去證明自己
始終一個節目要成功，除左成個團隊台前幕後比心機之外，觀眾既認同都好重要，希望tvb明白呢點
Gigi話喺呢個比賽學咗"人生道理"，連DJ聽到個反應都覺得呢個用詞會唔會誇張咗😂原來想講例如話學識講嘢婉轉啲
估唔到張老師都講人生縮影🤣
當然能夠學識人生道理！小小年紀，上大舞台，迫自己於短時間內有所進步，面對網上不負責任的評論，我相信已經比絕大部份人的整個人生經歷更多，點會少少人生道理都領略唔到？
根本就唔應該遷怒Aeren，縱然佢表現唔好，唔好係佢嘅問題，同Felix被淘汰冇直接掛鈎關係......批評者批評Aeren嘅歌藝係可以，但去到人身攻擊就無謂囉！
聲夢喺要造星，講包裝外型有無可塑性。譚校長講得啱，香港而家做歌手一定要聲色藝俱全先可以。
林奕匡一開始就教Felix 預備輸的心情及在淘汰區練習，大會所有人聽完全部哇然，結果如他所言，全部中晒!又可以怪雖呢?! (目標達成)
Thanks for your comment. I believe it is a good and successful show as long as each and every contestants knows he/she has tried his/her best already. Actually, there are many known and unknown factors which can influence which contestants can stay or be fouled. Last but not least, all contestants whether they can stay or have been fouled, I hope they never give up. Being consistent and keep learning and practicing properly, eventually, they can be stars in the future. They all have potentials which are needed to be explored and developed. Cheers to all of you! Again, thank you Mr. Cheung. As I mentioned last time, I always enjoy your comment. 👍🏻👍🏻
Well said Clayton. Respect! I did thumbs down Aeren’s video because her performance was not up to par and I considered it the worst that night. Viewers’ frustration has got to have an outlet so unfortunately she had to take the blunt. I do hope Felix will get more opportunities as he truly deserves a redemption. He will go far if keep pushing forward.
係囉Arene13分正常，係Felix個分唔正常之嘛
Felix最少都15分以上啦
張老師講得好好, AEREN 真是很無辜的, 只是選錯了一首歌啫, 之前都很努力, 每次表現都有進步的
多謝張老師分柝。
我仍然 覺得Felix應該進級。
反映節目內的導師沒有仔細教導男參賽者。 究竟係香港沒有 男singers 可以做導師？ 定係 冇人肯願意教導？
Hacken真係好好, 好願意教導 參賽者。
非常讚同張老師，相信Felix即使出局，亦會繼續進步，同時祝其他學員每集都進步，為我們提供精彩既表現
多謝你忠肯而詳細的剖釋；好用心啊（失敗只是暫時，成功反要更多的耐心、耐力）比賽總有輸有贏
首先多謝張老師的分析,老師跟我們支Aeren的人意見差不多,Felix低分真係跟評審最大直接關係,第一個出場係致命傷,其實有人分析過,Felix跟Aeren每回合的分數都唔係太高...其實佢兩個都係偏低分的...只是那班Hater: youngforever, 888 Forever love, Richard Ku 還要一直開youtube小號去留言,每次都一直出留言去攻擊Aeren..又話後台那樣...其實佢地每個人都有自己的亮點...如果真有留意youtube,其實felix每回合的每條片點擊數都少過Aeren的,除了第10集條片....所以要真係講可塑性..評判可能覺得Aeren真係高D....運氣都係實力的一部份....所以只能怪Felix唔好彩,並唔係去鬧Aeren,其實唔支持唔緊要..真心支持的人是會去支持的學員度俾鼓勵..並唔係一味去唔鐘意的學員度惡意批評, 人身攻擊.....Aeren係一個好堅強的女仔,希望Aeren表現更大進步,好好學習唱歌技巧,表演自己另一面給大家睇...
很有道理!
其實我覺得成個聲夢舞台之中，Aeren的表演都很吸引，只差佢嘅唱功有改善空間，有時佢啲呼吸位都控制得不太好，變成她咬字時就不太清晰，就會造成失誤，也很正常，她音準方面大致上ok，同埋佢至少都識怎樣Rap首歌出來，而felix就淨係唱功稍為好，他之前上舞台揀嘅歌都沒有什麼特別，他唱嘅歌較平凡，變成他的吸引力不太足，都怪不得評審會foul他，保住Aeren!
果條片我個dislike唔只係俾Aeren仲係俾評判，特別係給綠燈Aeren紅燈Felix的。之前foul Steven唔foul Aeren好多觀眾已經覺得唔係好講得過去，今次個賽果更加不能服眾。魚與熊掌不可兼得，無可能咁嘅實力留得低又不讓公眾批評，Aeren自己都應該要好好思考一下接落黎要點樣突破先可以服眾。
我諗佢都留唔到好多集。跳舞街根本俾yumi比下去。唱功又唔係特別好。可能之後每首歌都會有rap。🤣
I think the judges want to see more creativity than a stable good boring performance.
I feel really bad for Aeren for getting hate on something that she can't control. The judges give her 13 green lights and give Felix 11 green lights. It is not Aeren's fault.
Aeren didn't even post her recent performance on her ig.
Yea i dont see how she is to blame in this case since her scores were reasonable.Some Ppl are being unnessary mean to this girl. She deserved that 13 but only Felix was truly underscored..
@@yzspring I personality don't think that his score is underscored.
1. His stage is plain and nothing to see, only his voice and singing stand out a little bit, which is not enough to win a pass from judges
2. like one of the judges said, he told the wrong story. The song is slow and requires strong storytelling.
3. The song itself is not a good song to sing in a competition. He chose the wrong song to compete. Hard to win.
To add to the comment. People need to stop saying the show is rigged. The show is truly rigged if they follow what the audience dislikes. The judge has their own opinion/criteria to give a pass and I don't think we should criticize the judge either. People should start to accept that people have different opinions.
@@lc-tw1uf well said on this. I dont think the show is rigged as well and the judges' opinions should be taken in consideration . However undeniably the result was hard to accept because in my opinion Felix has the best(passable) perf that night aside of Kaitlyn. In reality winning in a comp doesnt really going do much for them if their singing/perf doesnt last an impression to the audiences. Felix for once did pretty well that night in this case although playing safe.
其實能入到最後十强的學員，每一位都有一定的實力。比赛就是會有輸赢的，但輸赢並不一定决定一個人的命運，就像選香港小姐一樣，挪冠軍的未必將来就一定能在娛樂圈大红大紫，往往挪第二名或沒入圍的反而他日成為了視后，影后。所以只要在比赛中，盡力發輝，觀衆及公司老闆必然會心中有數。我覺得Felix有些像當年的呂方或現今的吴業坤，雖然外表不是很吸引，但唱歌方面是有實力的，希望Felix能像坤哥一樣能有好的發展!
原因我覺得 Felix 獨唱太少，亦即係林奕匡獨唱太多啦。無記錯第 2 ，第 3 段林奕匡機乎獨唱晒。而 Felix 只得第 1 段獨唱。🙈🙈🙈
仲要Felix唱和音,我聽完都奇怪,似聽林亦匡唱歌多過Felix,所以評審俾分真的很多因素,等於Archie咁高分,他真係要好好多謝馮允謙的幫助.....
林奕匡跟本冇幫Felix，只顧自己表現自己
Archie 冼靖峰 也是。
整場比賽 跟本就是在聽 馮允謙 唱歌 。
超過95% 也是有 馮允謙 伴唱。
冼的獨唱、 來來去去也都是那重 唱再重唱的那一句， 非常悶納。
冼得分高， 全是靠 馮允謙「唱得努力」。
@@ouvuvouvshanda Archie 有點不同，佢地首歌差不多 70% 是合唱，但合唱時 Archie 聲音夠響，或者係馮生故意細聲點，而 ending 係由 Archie 處理，感覺上馮生沒有搶左 Archie 的戲份。
@@qq95 同意，林害了Felix
從人數是25位評判，及來自業界內不同的崗位這點可以得知，這個並不是純粹比拼歌藝的比賽。
其實Aeren得到既負評都係一種學習既機會，唔少負評裡面真係學到好多野。如果她可以吸收到反而可以變成她既潛力。講翻個賽制我覺得同導師合唱好難會唔影響學員，齋係個信心氣勢就唔一樣。
I agree. Poor Aeren. I do however think that there should be a mechanism where the judges would need to (or they want to) explain how they could put a red light on Felix, but a green light for Aeren. If the explanation is convincing, then people will have an easier time swallowing this. I do think that for a show like this, what the organizer tries to do, is to see how many "likes" a contestant have from the industry people, and hopefully those would become "industry capital" or resources that will help to promote him/her in their future careers.
It would then make sense because it would seem like Aeren could be more "marketable" for industry people, while Felix would be somebody like So Wing Hong. Not going to be eye-catching but will slowly demonstrate his abilities if and when opportunities come.
Felix加油💪！看得到佢一集比一集努力！加油💪！
只可說 張生的點評絕對成為節目的亮點，中肯而不偏頗，很專業
你冇聽錯，Felix表演不錯，只是合唱者令評判錯誤判斷，亦有評判不喜歡Felix不以灑狗血方式獻唱。以貌取人亦是其中原因。
評審如果同學員的背後人士關係好喲會吾會私心鬆手喲！例如是藝人同佢地本身相熟，所以想公平其實好難
係呀！要去對事唔好對人
老師，我不討厭Aeren, 只是覺得她當晩的表現真的麻麻，相反Felix 的確一向唱得不錯，音質準，當晩唱harmony 也唱得很好，我個人認為只可惜整首歌的安排讓他不突出😬。所以他不能發揮。🤔
絕對認同睇法，Felix 第一個出場係蝕低。
張老師講得冇錯,，Aeren 唔係差，每集都有驚喜，有不同表演方式，敢作不同嘗試， 網民可能替Felix 不值，才對Aeren 惡言攻擊， 希望Aeren 同Felix繼續俾心機，可以在演藝及歌唱界上作一番事業！
張 sir 評論好中肯，你好有 heart，真心錫學員……🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩支持你呀！😍😍
參加比賽就有輸有贏。評審亦會有偏差，只是一少部人的意見。其實有實力必會有人欣賞支持。日後必有更好發展已是贏了。
我覺得較公平的做法 可以4個人唱完之後 每個評判按表現 最好4分 最低1分
總分最低者出局
就會減低唔同人唱時按紅綠燈拿捏標準時的差異
我直頭覺得應該9個人唱曬後再foul最低分個兩個
Aeren真係慘比人鬧咗成個禮拜😢張老師作為專業評審出咗該影片為佢發言抱不平👍🏻此影片應該分享出去比更多人睇😅
帶少少私人感想，我覺得呢個比賽名次已經唔重要。最重要係學員們喺呢個比賽過程中帶咗啲咩特別印象深刻嘅作品比觀眾留下回憶 呢個先係最重要😊
暫時有幾位學員我都有深刻印象，包括: GiGi、Chantel、Rock、Archie、Windy、Felix、Yumi、蓮姐…其他學員暫時未有深刻印象，希望之後有精彩表演！
中肯 各有所長 賽制是這樣 都是靠自己最有把握演出取悦評審比分
只係想見到一個公平，有評分標準嘅比賽
If the current trend of judging criteria continues I won't be surprised if Aeren makes it to the final 5 and Hugo, Kaitlyn and Archie get eliminated!!!!
同意張佳添老師所說，我覺得每個評判看的都不一樣，unless set 咗同一個比分標準，即使這樣評判的比分，可能也不一樣。。而且比賽有時評判的 judgment 可能有唔一樣，除非只看唱功，不看其他表現。。但這個節目是尋找歌星。。要求會有唔同。。
講得很有道理!
理性及專業的分析！
分析得很好，我认同你观点
Felix shouldn't be out. I think the judges ear must be something wrong
I’d love to see an episode where they bring back eliminated contestants to compete for another chance at returning to the competition.
講真我好鐘意Felix。其實係賽制問題，因為是真人show關係，緊有人走，沒有什麼好驚奇。Aeren 係一個好勤力的女仔，睇到佢嘅努力，但不足以成為冠軍。所以走多一集，同留多一集分別不大。這只是人生一個段落，如果二位真的入娛樂圈，Aeren一定成功過Felix。再講一次我好鍾意Felix，天生有一把好靚聲音。有一種恨鐵不成鋼的感覺。
@kai ming li 當然相信他們15位有份得好的友誼。
我覺得排名出場係一個問題，Felix 排第一個出場，A 係最後一個想改番F 高分d 都唔得啦
出咗局但是有實力有前途吾簽聲夢都可以簽第二間唱片公司
Mr Cheung, honestly I like Windy songs the best. hope giving her more chance on stage in the coming Future
張老師 絕對認同你的說法 👍🏻👍🏻
張sir好正！ 3:25 係唔係我耳仔有D問題 🤣🤣🤣
我十分認同張佳添老師的意見，認為林智樂當晩的評分確實是有點宜偏低的。相信低分主要原因是由於林智樂是第一個出場，所以整體評分的標準會相對上會比較緊。再者，論外型和台風，林智樂亦是較弱的一個。所以得唔到唱片公司的評判支持。相信也是其中一個低分的原因。因為他們的焦點也是在乎該學員的商業價值是有多少。
再者，現時新賽制的玩法，每週都要foul一個。我亦相信TVB高層，對賽果早已經心中有數。所以請大家不要對星夢的賽果太過介懷，反而影響了欣賞這個娛樂節目的樂趣。
另外，我也希望替各星夢學員打打氣！💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
我認為Felix雖然聲底靚，但表現唔到特別技巧，例如和音只係Phil唱哂，Felix只係主音穩定唱完整首歌，冇好好發揮更多野，所以令到部分評判覺得冇特別。(Archie比賽，Jay第二段基本上俾佢show高音和 好新鮮 我覺得幾正)
另外，我覺得因為Aeren中間作左段rap，然後Mag都會俾佢呢度發揮突顯長處，可能呢一下搶左啲分。
冇可能啦，佢rap又唔係好聽，搶d咩分。一開始入位戈到已經唔岩音！唔扣佢分未算好。
@@htchan2697 咁我又唔覺得Aeren好聽，純粹覺得評判可能論發揮... 亦都好睇導師點夾點指導啦！講真全港咁多人，咁都選到Aeren入黎15強都已經黑人問號啦😂😂
講中重點..Aeren唱得不好...理性討論..並唔係人身攻擊,惡意批評.....
多謝張老師。
老師講得好好。我都唔覺得Felix淘汰因為Aeren， 但係Aeren個表演除了Ray之外，唱功真的差。
每次距把聲好唔穩定，每次都無想再聽多次的感覺。反而每次聽距唱歌時候，會希望快d 跳到Rap果d部份咯。
唱歌部份一d都唔吸引我。 距唱功真係好多要提升。
Aeren definitely doesn't deserve all the hate she gets, but I do think Felix was eliminated prematurely.
I think why people are upset is because those who objectively sing better are being eliminated faster than the likes of Aeren & Hugo who are more like "idol" singers. There's nothing wrong with idol singers because they have a place in the pop market, but I think a majority of audiences prefer contestants with "good" and "beautiful" voices - they're the ones who will have longevity in the industry. There's no denying that Aeren works hard and is a nice, easy to root for girl, but she's not solo material yet. I agree with your previous assessment that she's better suited to be in a girl group.
I agree with u no more！！ Part of the hateful feelings to Aeron is due to her off pitch even starting fm the v beginning of her singing. Thats why some of us may think Aeron does not deserve the 13 lights. Off pitch is always regarded as unacceptable in a singing contest. Undoubtedly, the quality of singing should be emphazied first. So I m upset to see Felix who good voice and quality singing is being fouled in the same round with a weaker contestent like Aeron.
Can’t agree more
6:15 我當然覺得Aeren係無辜，有時比賽真的是靠運氣，不一定下下都靠實力，所以她難得有這機會，就應該在下次表演時好好發揮出來，突破下自己!
只可以講 評判嘅取向反映左 佢哋係搵緊第時有機會彈起嘅人 而唔係搵緊淨係唱歌唱得好嘅人
張老師講得幾好，不過評判的責任好大
特別係，大家都聽曬頭3個人（Felix/蓮姐/Archi) 的表現，評判應該拎番同一個標準去量度Aeren.
而家既問題係，大家都feel到評判對Felix 好harsh,對Aeren就好鬆，大家都覺得好唔公平，先有甘大反應
仲有，我估比unlike Aeren 條片嘅人，都真係unlike 個performance 囉，走曬音，唔知唱乜都仲可以留低
我好應同這個節目是人生的縮影！
Felix雖不是表現非常好，但Aeren直頭係差喎，Aeren 粉絲都傻傻哋，講事實就係hater?!話佢無後台真係無人信。
我都成日話成功非僥倖，但我好衰，加多一句：唔成功嘅人唔好一味賴人好彩，而係應該去坦承地檢討吓自己嘅問題。
無論怎麼法落 還是相當錯愕
😂👍
老師 我同意你話今次唔關佢事 但問題是賽制唔公平
有咩理由係一集foul一個 點解下一集5個比 我覺得賽制唔公平 Felix 係唔差 但我唔認為Aeren係表現得好 根本都唱唔到愛是懷疑神韻
Why are youtubers suddenly all speaking up about this injustice now one day before the next episode air date 🤔
既然13盞Aeren, 11盞Felix, 咁要問下點解有d評判綠左Aeren而紅左Felix，唔明佢地咩準則，at least 張老師綠燈起碼都覺得Felix 好表現，同埋Aeren咁多人批評咁都證明呢刻佢觀眾緣麻麻，佢應該諗點樣可以改善自己問題，杜絕負評最佳辦法就係要有好既performance，若果天份+努力都唔夠可能要浸耐d啦
好中肯