There is a similar problem in many small towns in the US. They become gentrified tourist destinations, which is good in one sense, but, more and more of the property becomes owned by outsiders, driving up prices, and locals have to struggle to remain a part of it.
Something similar happens in Florida with people who come down for the winter, we call them snowbirds. Not sure if that is a term used outside of Florida or not.
you nailed it "your herritage is being treated as a commodity" yes one which we are not profiting from and one that strips our homeland from us physically. i am economically exiled from my homeland. a land my family has lived in for hundreds if not thousands of years. and what was said in the previous video about cornwall being a part of you having that connection to the land and sea. its honestly like a chunk has been torn out and ill most likely spend most if not all of my life trying to reclaim that chunk.
@@lynnhubbard844 you're asking me why the royal family, a family who have for centuries profited off the capture and exploitation of Celtic lands and labour, would help the cornish? you know the royal family directly profit from the "dutchy" right?
That’s sad but it’s hard to remain where you always lived. People migrated and moved against their will for the whole history. The difference is, in the past, people were physically destroyed to steal their more precious land. Now, best parts of the world are conquered economically by the rich.
My ancestors emigrated from Cornwall 7 generations ago. They settled in North Queensland initially but coincidentally most of us live around Brisbane now. We had a big family gathering about 10 years ago. Quite a few have managed to visit the UK and see Cornwall, but we are really just tourists now.
I have to sympathise with Cornwall in respect of young locals being able to afford housing. This has been a problem for rural communities across the UK for a long time.
It’s a problem over the whole country for the younger generation. They will never be able afford to live where they work. It destroys the heart of a place. Places need to be loved, not shat on by the elites. ❤
Not just younger people, but local people generally. I know of other areas more local to me with similar problems of housing and second home ownership. It rips the heart out of the community, creates ghost towns and ghost economies, with shops shut during off peak tourist periods, further cementing problems for the remaining locals, and much of the tourist pound doesn't even then get spent in those communities.
As a Londoner who saw the average rental price for a 2 bedroom flat treble before having to leave, I always wonder why people talk about this issue as a rural problem? 😂A one-bedroom mould-infested bedsit in London charges more in rent than most semi-detached houses in Nottingham (where I moved to). Try working a minimum-wage job in London while renting a tiny flat for £1,200+ per month. I had to leave my entire community and all of my friends just to find a place that I could actually afford.
As a Breton person, I can't help but find some huge similarities between the situation in Brittany and in Cornwall, how the rich from the capital come and buy second homes (especially on the coast), how we are not being heard or respected, and how the language and culture are looked down upon. From Breizh to Kernow, solidarity ✊
Conan and Emma were so lovely, and really helped me with my project! Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊 I'm producing a new series at the moment (cycling around the UK, Isle of Man, and Ireland in search of stories), which will be out after the summer, so there'll be plenty more to come!
I live in Capetown and have been priced out of my own City because of wealthy foreigners buying out all the surroundings of Table Mointain....I now feel like a tourist in the City of my birth....totally relate to you good citizens of Cornwall...God bless you all !! ❤
Yes...and the City Council increasing their rates plus insurance companies too...plus electriciy price rises ...etc. The great wheel of Capitalism rolling along ....
If I commented every time I see someone mis-positing the definition of capitalism I'd comment anywhere upwards of twice a day on da Tube. No particular point revealed, nothing particularly identified as a problem, just 'capitalism' in an angry/defeated tone, spent by someone you have to wonder if they learned the definition from someone else using it in a pejorative context and not accurately.
@@KernowekTim This is completely untrue. Cornish was virtually extinct by 1800, with just a few very old native speakers remaining. For its recent revival, the language had to be completely recreated.
A fantastic 2-part doc! Always happy to see representation of the Real Cornwall. It's not just surfing and pasties! As far as independence goes I think the best move is to fight for a Cornish assembly, that way we can crack down on the amount of second homes and the crippling poverty in the old mining communities. Kernow Bys Vyken!
Hi Joe, thanks for the feedback, glad you enjoyed it! It was great to learn about more than just the classic tourist cliches while I was there 😊 Yeah that's what a lot of people I spoke to told me too: "let's see us empowered first, and then let's see where it goes from there", as Mike said in the video. I do hope it happens eventually, it seems like it's the only way to tackle those issues you mentioned, as the British government seems to be doing very little to address them.
As a fourth generation Kernow-Australian, I take great pleasure in acknowledging that Sustralia, unlike the US, did not fight the English for independence. We simply got on with life and transgenerationally the English have become irrelevant. Not the English People, most of whom are warm-hearted and very thoughtful, but their remnant feudal Westminster system of parliament, with its lords and ladies, dukes and duchesses, princes and princesses, filthy rich landowners who control most things, and the god-forsaken clergy, who, despite lip service paid to the separation of state and church, nevertheless occupy numerous seats in the upper house as Lords Spiritual…oh, groan and grow up! In simple language, just ignore England, and get on with being Kernowyon. Over time, the remnant feudal Westminster system will collapse and we can establish the Celtic nation of Kernow once again. The Kernow diaspora owes it to bro goth agan tasow to pick up Kernewek (look up saysomethingin.com and select the free Kernow (Cornish in Sowsnek) course. You’ll be glad you did.
Tell me about it, I'm cornish born and bred with 3 cornish children and I'm classed as homeless as I'm in council temporary accommodation following a section 21 no fault eviction, I'd love to be able to even afford to RENT a property in the place I was born but even with working I cannot afford anything, its really a sad state of affairs
My great- great grandfather was Martin Curnow who emigrated to the US from Cornwall. I honestly had no idea that Cornwall had such a unique culture. Thank you for this video!
That's because the English tried to destroy Cornwall's Celtic culture, language and customs. Against all the odds the Cornish have somewhat clinged to their celtic identity.
@@balls9420 If l can save enough one day I'll go and see where my Cornish 3x Great Grandfather came from. He fell in love with an Irish woman. Bless him those Irish lasses are hard to please. He must've been a good looking bloke.
Meur ras arta, thanks again for a well put together documentary. I can tell this has been made from a point of curiosity and interest rather than the usual documentary style we get of "look at these weirdos, and aren't cream teas nice". I have to thank you for treating the Cornish and our issues with respect. Just referring Cornwall as "south westerly point of the UK" instead of as "England" is a kindness not often given and it really shows your care and research you've put into this.
Thank you for this feedback as well! It's been great to see people respond positively to the video 😊 I really enjoyed putting it together, and the people I met in Cornwall were so helpful when I was there. It's a shame there isn't more stuff in the media about Cornwall that isn't just cream teas, surfing, and pasties. Hopefully as more people are made aware of Cornish culture and the language it'll become more fairly represented.
I live in teignmouth Devon, grandmother was from Pt Isaac and spoke kernewek. And on a trip to Breton was surprised she could converse in kernewek whilst there. Our river the teign was the dividing line between the Celts and Roman Britain except for a few outposts. 😊
Well done video and thank you. I am an Irish language speaker and I've dabbled in Welsh and Manx, but I had no idea the Cornish language was still being spoken. The "official" word is that it died out in the 18th century. So I'm glad people are speaking it and thank you for making these lovely videos and bringing attention to Kernow and their people and culture.
The first time I became aware of a disconnect between Cornwall and the rest of England in particular, when severe weather hit the South West in the winter of 2014. That storm, although Dawlish in Devon was hardest hit, at a stroke it severed the only remaining rail link between the rest of England and Cornwall. One of the most vivid memories I have of that time were angry residents (understandably) calling for a reinstatement of what was the other rail route from Cornwall to the rest of England, which closed in the 1960's during the time that rail enthusiasts call the "Beeching Axe". Basically, it was a period of time when railways were seen as a form of transport in terminal decline and British Rail was losing money hand over fist (by 1961 they were in debt to the sum of £136 million). To try and claw some of the money back, after the Transport Minister approved each shutdown of routes by rail, they then sold off the land and now, when people see that the politicians of the 1960's were short sighted and those routes closed down would be of a huge benefit to the local communities if reopened often can't because there's either a supermarket or housing built on the route of the railway. Under his "Reshaping of British Railways" report published in 1963, left Cornwall with that aforementioned one remaining rail link to the rest of England. Ian Hislop mentioned one of the communities in Cornwall that suffered when it's rail link was closed down: "(Holding a 1960's poster showing the places people could travel to from London Waterloo) this is a charming poster from the 1960's showing all the exciting places you could travel to from London Waterloo on the glamorous sounding Atlantic Coast Express. But, after [Dr Richard] Beeching had done his work, all these stations were closed and you couldn't get to any of these places by rail. The north Cornish village of Padstow (one of the places mentioned on that poster) depended on its trains. The railway had arrived here in 1899, and immediately revolutionised the local economy, carrying fish out and tourists in. Over 60 years on, the track which had brought such prosperity to Padstow was carried off for scrap. At the old station, there's now a car park. And along the old coastal route, the views are only enjoyed by walkers and the occasional cyclist. When the railway went, it was the workers on the local lines who were hit first," One of the grievances workers along the route to Padstow found was that (allegedly) those taking traffic numbers were deliberately going to stations like Dunmere Halt at off peak hours, when people were either at school or at work, or already gone home etc, not measuring the peak traffic. But I digress
As an Englishman, id love to see Cornwall become independent, and i think that this nationalist movement is a good step to hopefully achieving that goal. I just wish that the people in my country would appreciate their culture as much as you Cornish lads do.
Always a joy when the hallowed English wander down to 'discover' Celtic areas. The next stages inevitably being destruction and exploitation. Quickly followed by disdain coupled with a patronising attitude shown by the English sent to correct everything so it is more like England.
Spot on with the comments on Wales giving all their money to England and getting a pittance back, HS2 is a prime example, our water being exported to England and getting a pittance in return, the profits from the mining industry, all the profits went out to England, same with the mining industry in Cornwall and not reinvested in the areas, a 20 minute video on TH-cam, narrated by Michael Sheen, is well worth watching ‘For Wales see England’ would be applicable to Cornwall
My great-grandfather was from Redruth, immigrated to America. I remember seeing a letter from one of his uncles complained how the Cornish are "an oppressed people in our own country"--so this would have been back in the... 1930's or so. I didn't know what he meant at the time, but now I see.
I knew the word Cornwall, but I had no idea of its history, or that there is a Cornish language. I’m happy that your language hasn’t died out. I’m also happy to learn a bit about lovely Cornwall.
I am from Newfoundland, Canada. Most of our population came from the southwest of England as well as from Ireland. Also I was a fan of one of Enid Blyton's book series "Mallory Towers" about a girls' boarding school in Cornwall.
This video only has 35k views compared to almost 450k on Part 1. Please consider actually putting "Part 1" in the title of the first video so that more people know there's a Part 2. You should also pin a link in the comments section there directing people to this second video.
I'm Australian and my Cornish great grandad who couldn't read or write, who grew up in a work house jumped ship at Fremantle, Western Australia. His life was hard but he new he was onto a good thing when he got to Oz.
This is an argument that could apply to many areas of England. For a small country there are many areas with distinct identities. Introducing Proportional Representation would go along way to improve local representation and rid us of our damaging two party system. Until then it will be a long difficult struggle to bring about change.
While this is true in some aspects, the main thing that differentiates Cornwall from the other regions is that Cornwall has a language and is almost identical to Wales but doesn't have the same devolved powers as Wales - most places that have distinct identities haven't held on to them the same as the Cornish people have mainly due to geography and being cut off. I think the best thing for Cornwall is a national assembly, we need to be in control of our own powers, second homes are absolutely destroying our duchy.
Celtic languages were spoken all around Briton historically. In Kent where I live, many place names are Celtic. Even the manor port of Dover is of Celtic origin. All around the country, you will find Celtic place names. We are the same people. You just hold onto the original language for longer.
@@lumihiutaleitakaamos3949 also less diluted due to geography, the Saxons forced us in to what Cornwall is today, and they left us there, due to that there was a lot less mixed cultures hence why we held onto it for a longer period, also the language was spoken in Cornwall as a first language up into the 18th century, 1000 years longer than any other so called county today.
@@Dungiom Did the Saxons force you into Cornwall? I wouldn’t be so sure about that! Have you researched this? Because when you research it, you realise that there are many many different theories about this all saying different things. The truth is that we don’t know if the Saxons mingled with the local people or whether they forced them to the other side of the island. However, if we look at other invasions of migration around the British isles, we can see certain patterns: The Irish migrated to Scotland - they mingled with the local Britons and despite the original people being Britons, they suddenly all became Scottish, started speaking Gaelic ,but the original Britons didn’t go anywhere. They didn’t run, they just stayed there and had babies with the invaders. The Vikings invade/d migrated to Briton. They mingled with the local people, sometimes upset them, but eventually they all marries, had babies etc and again all the people are the same. They didn’t run away, they just stayed and mingled with the Vikings. Also, don’t forget that the Celts did not originally belong to Britain. They also migrated to Britain where native Britons were already living and they mingled with them. the original Britons didn’t run away from the Celts, they stayed and together they had babies etc. What makes you think that the Saxons, the Angles and the Jutes forced all the Celtic people to one side of the country and did not mingle with them and have babies? How were they any different from the Irish, the Vikings, the Celts, the Normans etc etc It’s highly unlikely that the Cornish were forced to the other side of the country. The most likely scenario (and also the one that happens all around the world still today) is that migration happened and people had relationships with their descendants being a mix of of the original people and the people who migrated. So the people of our island are descended from the original people regardless of whether they were born in England, Scotland or Wales. This is all happening right now too. There are lots of polish people living in the UK now. They will have relationships with British people but their children will be British and will marry with more British people and if anything they will probably just become more British over time genetically. This also happened in Turkey quite recently in history. The Turks who were originally from the area close to Mongolia and China, migrated to Turkey. There weren’t many Turks who invaded - it was a small number, but they gained control and spread their language and culture and passed these to the original people in Turkey who spoke a completely different and unrelated language. Now everyone in Turkey speaks Turkish even though their ancestors didn’t speak Turkish. However, the people of Turkey are still the same, they just mixed a little with the Turks. Even in our own country, we’ve all been marring each other from different areas of the country and having children with people who are not from our area of the country. I have English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh and Cornish ancestry - and ancestry from up north etc. All British have relationships with each other. So sure, keep thinking that your different if it makes you happy but I can assure we are all the same people, all linked, all connected. One theory suggests that the Celtic languages spread by trade via the Atlantic but it was not the original language os the British isles.
Dydh da! As a Welshman I am very proud to announce that I have quite a large ancestry from Cornwall. I only found that out recently from AncestryDNA. It was quite a welcome surprise so you can imagine my happiness when I found out. I have been doing my bit to learn my own language and help revive it as we are currently undergoing a revivalist period but sadly still only 20% of the population are said to speak or understand Cymraeg with fluency. Still, cultural revival is never an overnight thing anyway. And when I am at a certain level of mastery Kernowek will be the next language I fully intend on learning to the same fluency and doing my bit to help Cornish revival as well. It is said that language is one of the keys to one's identity, and I believe that to be a truism, so I'm hoping that at some point there will be a lot more than 400-500 Cornish people who can and will speak their own language as their first language and for Kernowek to be fully recognised as Cornwall's state language.
I live on Norway's southernmost coast, which has the same problems with the most idyllic towns being turned into leisure towns. This led to the authorities introducing compulsory residence, so that the locals could afford to buy houses in the center of the cities or along the coast in the most idyllic places. Some places have later abolished the residence requirement for various reasons, but if the same development accelerates, I think they will reintroduce it. If you inherit a home, you are allowed to use it as a holiday home even if there is an obligation to live there.
As someone from the East of England we're very far away in the country from Celtic Heritage regions, meaning I didn't learn much about them at all until I moved away from home, with the exception of Kernow. I learnt about Kernowek on a holiday there and have been fascinated with the Celtic history that is barely mentioned in our country. Currently learning Cymraeg as I'm hoping to study a masters in Cymru soon
One major problem of managing regional identities in the UK is that there are no "states" like for example a federal republic like Germany has them. Germany has 16 state parliaments, they deal with the regional identities, they make their regional laws about things that are in their realm of competence while the federal parliament (Bundestag) deals with the federal legislation. Such state parliaments would've made managing and also acknowledging regional identities and needs a lot better in the past. But then again the UK system is a crusted old system that would need some general reforms...
This is an excellent video. TH-cam needs more of them. If we could do just one single thing to preserve Cornish culture it would be to stop Cornwall Council and Cornish housing associations giving Cornish social housing to up-country people who want to "retire by the seaside" at the expense of Cornish people. At the moment, anyone in social housing east of the Tamar can transfer here on a whim. Cornish people have to wait decades for a permanent home. It's so obviously wrong, I'm astonished that nothing has already been done. Those who govern us are truly Kernophobic and engineering our genocide. Meur ras rag dha gwydhyow.
Good luck with that ! The liberal left is avid supporter of indigenous Rights in Aus / NZ / Canada and USA. But try raising the issue here and you are " Far Right ", Racist / Extremist ..!!
What you mean by ‘expense of Cornish people’? It’s Cornish people who are paid more by the foreigners. They could sell their homes to locals for half price but they choose to get big money instead.
The “fisherman’s cottages” are still advertised as such to tourists (the only ones that can afford to stay in them) as holiday lets - no fishermen have lived in them for decades - they all live in the council estates. I live in PZ
I have heard of the "Stannery Parliament" in Cornwall from a friend of mine who is also a descendant of Cornish Grandparents here in New Zealand. Does this exist and if it does what powers does it have?
All fine and good... but I didn't hear from the other local people on why they wouldn't want independence - is there a follow up video to share that side?
Truly enjoyed your film on Cornwall. Watching Poldark and Doc Martin endeared me to the scenery and history. Having lived in Ireland myself, I appreciate Celtic characteristics which I would share with the Cornish. Maybe one day would allow a visit there, please God.
5:46 "what money" I hate it when people talk about finances without reading a single budget. From 2021 - 2022 the Cornish Council borrowed £185 million which was 63% of overall funding. 26% was made up of grades and EU investments. Only 7% comes from revenue e.g(taxes). And 4% Capital Receipts. The Cornish depth now stands at £856.369 million pounds. So No, Cornwall doesn't have any money to speek of. And the idea that England simply takes money away is untrue. The worrying part is Council can go barkrupt, take Croydon as an example.
Two questions: 1) Isn't Cornwall where most of the pirates came from? 2) I see the prefix "Tre" used a lot in place names and surnames. What does that mean?
I'm Welsh, not Cornish, but "tre" is the same in both languages. It originally meant something like farmstead, and later evolved to mean town. It's basically equivalent to the suffix -ton in English.
@@KaiserMacCleg Interesting, thank you. I thought it might have been like "mac" or "ap"--but instead of a suffix like "ton", "by", "ford" or "ley" (as in Anglo Saxon place names) its a "prefix". You can tell I'm obsessed with these kind of things!
@@impalaman9707 Me too! It appears in surnames because of habitational names - Trevithick, for example, is from Cornish Tre + Methek (Homestead of the Physician). Methek (C) = Meddyg (W) = Medic (E).
Thank you for these videos. It was interesting to hear about the nationalist movement. Some of the discussion reminded me of our American states' rights issues that crop up from time to time. We have a strong tension between a centralized federal government and the desire for each state to have a certain level of autonomy. It sounds to me like your more local entities are trying to "wake up" the London based government to your needs and desires.
I am Cornish American, my dad's parents came here from Penzance and St. Just. Unfortunately my grandparents passed before I began to truly appreciate my heritage. Can anyone direct me to some reliable sources to begin learning about Kernow?
Hey! Actually, Emma (who features in this video) works at the Cornish Language Fellowship. I think they run online courses in the language. In terms of history and Cornish culture, some of the others I interviewed in this video run the Kernow Matters to Us (KMTU) site. I think they have resources on there that you can have a look at. I don't think TH-cam will let me post the links in here but if you google them you'll find them. Perhaps sending an email through the KMTU website contact form would be helpful for finding resources too :)
What you are describing insofar as vacationers buying 2nd homes is exacrly what WE in upstate NH USA are dealing with- people from MA, NH, VT, CT, NY, RI have allnflocked here for our beautiful scenery and majestic mountains- fishing, hunting, snomobiling, skiing, hiking and other touristy things...In the harsh winters (-30F and 4 feet of snow, constant blizzards) people leave...and go to Florida, or S. Carolina, or warmer climes. Only to return in Summer...The economy takes a hit yearly.
Mebyon Kernow gained 5.3% of votes cast and approx 2% (5 of the 87 contested, in total) of seats, which improves their standing but hardly provide a platform for Independence or even semi-autonomy? Of course a dysfunctional First Past the Post voting system profoundly shapes electoral outcomes but I find it hard to believe that changing to a decent proportional method (say Single Transferable Vote) would bring Mebyon Kernow its desired scenario of a majority of seats in Cornwall's council chamber? Michael Bunney (featured here) was a successful candidate, elected for the St Mewan and Grampound election district.
Listening to all these comments about being priced out of your area made an impression on me. Here in Florida it’s the same. Very crowded with ridiculous housing prices. In fact probably going to move soon. My daughters family has to. Due to home prices/rent. I feel for the poor/older people on a fixed income. Cost of living is way up.
Thank you for making this video though ! Your investigation is through and you going to the location itself and doing interviews shows so much integrity and respect. I really appreciate how you have displayed these issues without an agenda or blaming the Cornish people for their problems.
Thanks Amanda! Glad you liked it 😊 I really enjoyed making this video and travelling to Cornwall to learn about more than just the touristy clichés. I also didn't know too much about Cornwall before this project, so it was really eye-opening for me personally. I'm currently working on videos from Wales, the Isle of Man, Ireland, and Scotland which will be out after the summer, so keep an eye out!
Remember the celts are extinct. Welsh, Irish and Cornish are celtic descendants, not so much Scotland but it's still there. Independent parliaments are unlikely to happen unfortunately and will remain unlikely to happen due to the money we bring to England.
Hello brothers across the pond.lm currently trying to figure out. Something wondering if I too am one of you sure would make me proud. My name is Elmer Cornish
Its worth pointing out that as a result of the deindustrialisation they did get £1bn in EU funding yet Cornwall still voted overwhelmingly to Leave in 2016. So they cut off their own access to cash which the UK Govt will not replace - but as we are told they all knew what they were voting for..........
Yes, Cornish people not just decided to destroy their economy in the Brexit referendum, but they then decided to elect Tories for all 6 the Cornish seats in 2019. Anyone who believes anything BloJo says deserves everything they get-and that means most of the Cornish people who vote. The second home owners don't vote-this is entirely on the natives..
My grandfather's people come from Cornwall. I have been a few times since the 60s and have loved it. My mother always said it was her favorite place in the country. The problem of beautiful locations being priced up and displacing locals is not just Cornwall's problem. Here in the US countless places are no longer inhabited by the locals that built them and worked in them. As they were largely beautiful but rural areas the kids moved out and the aged parents sold to outsiders. That is a fact. In the UK the entire nation is a theme park. To outsiders it seems that the nation is a show for tourists. Almost any village , town or city is stuffed with tourists. That is just a sad fact. People visit and decide they love it. If they have the money they move in and sit in their homes. They don't work or have a business that is locally focused. When enough move in it destroys what was special Just the way the world is. Everyone still on the hunt for the undiscovered gem.
Genuine question - would love to know the answer if anyone can clarify it for me - in the video the narrator says that Cornwall gets much of its income from tourism and then one of the Cornish politicians being interviewed says that the money from rented second homes doesn’t go into the Cornish economy. Which is it? Either renting places out to tourists provides a net financial benefit to the county or it doesn’t. The effect of holiday home purchases driving up prices for locals is another matter (that affects every holiday hotspot or desirable place to live or visit) but I just wondered whether property rentals are a net positive or negative.
Holiday homes, in the main, are owned by English incomers who, in many cases, don't reside in Cornwall. Their business (holiday rentals) makes them money which does not go into the local economy.
Cornwall is about the same size as a lot of independent countries; the Maldives, Luxembourg, so on...many smaller places are independent and have been for years.
@@fabulouschild2005 and the same stale arguments have been put forward to say why other countries shouldn't get independence from Westminster. But so far 65 countries have achieved that independence and not one has asked to come back because they are more able to decide their destiny. Ireland now has twice the GDP per capita of the UK
I only recently found out my ancestors were mostly Cornish. I know very little on the history and Cornish culture and origins could you recommend some books?
I haven't read it myself but Jon Fletcher's book The Western Kingdom: The Birth of Cornwall has good reviews and would appear to provide a good non academic read about Cornwall. It's available in paperback and Kindle. Reasonable price too.
I understand that before becoming King the then Duke of Cornwall, Charles, owned a large chunk of land here. Called the Duchy of Cornwall. 52,000 + hectares to be precise. This land borders 20 counties, including Cornwall. This inheritance created by Edward 3rd passes this estate from monarch to their eldest son. Now, William is the new owner now. This inheritance is valued at approx. £1bn & generates a personal income for William of approx £20m. The Crown says these figures are "speculative". Regardlees of the true figures we can agree lots of profit to be made here. Should part of this profit be returned to the people of Cornwall? Or should it remain in William's bank accounts? Good question! 😱
Is geography different here? the second paragraph reads "You've probably heard of the four countries of the UK, but few know that Cornwall, currently administered as a county in southeast England, is also a Celtic nation.2 South EAST? Still, perhaps this error can be corrected soon? And any other errors that may also be in here?
Great videos, although I would say that the Celtic language spoken in Cornwall is actually that of the Dumnonii which used to be the Celtic peoples in Cornwall, Devon and the edge of Somerset. If the Cornish heritage is marginalised, the Celtic history of Devon is totally denied. I’ve never heard of Devonwall but agree with the idea of re establishing Dumnonia
@Simon King Don't get any ridiculous tribalism ideas. We do not need it in this day and age and it's proven over the years it's done way more harm than good.
Original cornish peoples went on verge of extinction because they were battle axe nordics whose having black hair and blue eyes. Indigenous cornish people still used as ritual sacrifice for colonialism toward americas also agenda new world order. @Tieran Freedman
I had no idea about this until I came across your videos on the subject. Now I want to learn Cornish - I'm a teacher on italki, maybe some speakers could sign up there and teach it! It's recognised as a language, but I couldn't find any teachers.
More than welcome, I hate the Cornish/Devon division - we used to be one nation who also fought the English together in the prayerbook rebellion, we shared a language a culture and lands. I wish our similarities were spoken about more
Lots of similarities between the political situation of Cornwall in the UK and Brittany in France. Obvious similarities in their flags, hymn and in their languages: [kw] Kernow bys vyken! [br] Breizh da viken!
Despite all the invasions and oppression over the centuries, Cornwall & Devon still retain their identity and are very distict from the rest of the country. The celtic culture and values still remain. It's definitely something that should be recognised and celebrated. The funny thing is we're still fighting invaders each day! Second home owners forcing us out of our towns! Some things never change 😅 A big problem with independence is the youth just don't care. The majority of them couldn't care less about our history, our language, or our culture - they'd rather copy what the Londoners are doing instead. Unless that changes I just can't see it happening, unfortunately. What I would like to see is Devon getting reabsorbed into Cornwall or at least gaining recognition by the other celtic nations. While it's no longer officially part of cornwall, it culturally is in every single way. Shared language, shared values, shared history, shared blood. We should be reunited.
Everyone loves to blame the English! How are us every day Englishmen supposed to know if the owner of an airbnb are Cornish ffs? I've stayed in Yorkshire, owned by a Scottish woman. Stayed in Edinburgh, owned by a Chinese family. Countless hotels, owned by all sorts of different people. We have the same thing in England! I still appreciate these places, shop locally, eat in local restaurants, etc. Tourist zones need our tourism, all over the UK, as simple as that. We also offer employment, which many of those complaining enjoy the benefit. Sick of UK Government? Guess what, so are we lol. We as people, have a lot in common and are stronger together. Government is a separate issue. Keep it that way.
I first visited Cornwall 50 years ago. and several visists throughout the 70's, I was somwhat active in the Stannary movement, the Cornish Stannary Parliamanet was a demand at the time. The Stannary was a sort og tinmine towns legal body that could make laws for all of Cornwall. You don't mention the Stannary in your videos, so I suspect Stannaries is not the thing today. I did buy some 300 books on Cornish language, culture and such, and took them home to Norway, where they still are in the Cornish section of my library, I stayed mostly in Bodmin, where Mebyon Kernow and other Cornish organizations had som kind of offices (as weel as sales of books) I learned Cornish, now forgotten, but I was able to understand some Breton in Brittany though. I looked fora house to buy in the Scilly Isles at the time, but that never came to fruition . In Norway the coastal small cities for some 50 years put a lien on all property that it had to be inhabited 11 months of the year, so called 'boplikt' (live in duty), whisch kept the prices down, for if you wanted a holiday home in the form of a local home, you needed someone to live there while you yourself lived somewhere else. That person often paid no rent, and were sometimes paid to live there. It kept prices down, and the vacanscy rates under 3%, whilst the towns that did not place these liens on property often saw 50% vacancy in houses in the winter. But somehow, after several court rounds , several of these liens were deemed unlawful, and nowadays it mostly other systems that keep properties lived in. In towns which have no occupancy system i normal ouse would cost you some £ 800 000, whilst a town withs some system it would cost you £ 150 000.
Learning all about all these micro -nations, we in africa call them tribes or clans. You start to realise how small england in its puritanical state actually is. Its a collective of different celtic nations. Southafrica for example is a collective of these :zulu,xhosa,tswana,sotho,tsonga, basically having their own territory and indigenous roots in a particular area
I agree with many of the points describing the plight of the Cornish people, but I don't see how getting independence now will help the issue. Would it be immoral to take the properties away from people who have purchased them, just because they aren't Cornish? I believe so. I also believe Cornish history, the last millennia of it, has been so intertwined with English and later British history, that it would be a shame to disregard that also. I wonder if there is a way to get more independence and recognition for Cornwall, whilst still keeping its English heritage too. Would love to hear some thoughts on this!
Thank you for that I know I have something to show to people when they ask me Corolla just part of England isn't so now I can recommend your video the more we sing Our Song the more people remember the words.
I sympathize with the Cornish people. May you indeed be heard, language remembered and economic improvement. Someone from Arizona, USA no ethnic relation.
As a Cornishman who had to leave to get a decent wage those in this video thinking they can be independent are deluded. As a student journalist I interviewed a fair few of those in the independence movement and well, they're just dreaming.
Люди, которые арендуют жилье, покупают товары в корнских магазинах, едят в местных ресторанах и т.д. Это тоже i Bow Sows уходит? Обычно туризм деньги приносит...
The problem is, because economically over the last 50 years and especially since Margret Thatcher, the bad economy there made it so that houses became too expensive to live in for the locals but very affordable for the English in England, so most homes, restaurants and other businesses in Cornwall in tourist areas are owned by people living back in other regions of England, thus they gain nothing back out of it.
What is the Duke of Cornwall doing for Cornwall? Is there still a duke?
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As an "emmet", I can see where you're coming from. But what is needed is for Cornwall to have it's own TV news networks (BBC and ITV). BBC South West is so Devon-orientated. Nothing wrong with pride, but no room for extremism.
As s English person I very much Sympathise with Cornwall, its not unique in being neglected, most of England is neglected and so is Scotland and wales, me being from the north of England I know all about government neglect, I too would love a northern parliament because I believe the north of England has a distinct culture and identity. Now what I disagree with is calling Cornwall a “nation” or a “country” because its not, it’s been an integral part of England for 1000 years longer than it was ever a country in its own right, I see no reason to refer to an English county as a nation. I understand it’s people have a unique culture but so does Yorkshire, Essex, hell even Liverpool, it’s not unique with having a strong identity, so to me it makes me uncomfortable calling a part of England a nation, it may have been a long long time ago but it’s not anymore, The north of England was once an independent Northumbria but we don’t identify with that. I can understand the separatist desires in Scotland, wales and Northern Ireland, after all the U.K is a union of 4 nations, so it’s understood for them to what to leave the union. Cornwall is not the same, it’s an integral part of England and has been for the entire existence of the English nation, To me it’s as English as the other counties, and calling the Cornish a separate people is incorrect they are English people but with a strong regional identity. I as for Cornwall being an actual independent country, well it’s absolutely laughable at best and delusional at worst, no government would ever allow a part of England to become independent this isn’t Scotland, it’s not about a union, it’s an integral part of the English nation. Cornwall has a small of 500,000, compared to Scotlands 5 million and wales 3 million, it’s biggest economic asset is tourism, I get smaller nations exist but not ones that have been integral to another country for 1000 years. So that guy who spoke about independence for Cornwall as if its feasible needs to pull his head out of the clouds, it’s not ever going to happen, and I mean never. Even if Cornwall kept every penny it produced it still wouldn’t be able to afford independence, because it’s just so small and lacks any real resources or industry, and even if it did become independent it would be so heavily dependent on England that it wouldn’t be really independent at all, and it would lose its representation in parliament as well, in the scenario it would have even less of a say, because it would be a mere vassal. A independent Cornwall couldn’t realistically close its border with England, it couldn’t win a trade war with it, it couldn’t beat it at anything, what England says Cornwall would do in this scenario, so the people of Cornwall go from representation in Westminster to being a subordinate with no representation. Best comparison would be France and Monaco, Monaco is technically independent on paper, but in reality it’s reliant on France for everything, meaning it in fact has little independence to speak off, this would be the same with Cornwall if it became independent, it wouldn’t harm England if it became independent because England would still call all the shots, it would harm Cornwall alone. So although I understand autonomy within England and within the wider U.K, I think independence for Cornwall is a complete fantasy and the time and energy should be best placed elsewhere, i may come off as harsh, but I’m just looking at it realistically.
Cornish independence is just English-hating bandwagoning, I'm going to start campaigning for Norfolk independence soon because why the fuck not, right?
I think that Cornwall is culturally, historically, and geographically close enough to Wales for this to evolve towards concrete administrative and political developments. Why not an administrative and political association of Cornwall and Wales with its Welsh and Cornish Parliament / Senedd Cymru a Kornog?
The locals need to rise up and protest and do anything in their power to re claim their land I'm a proud cornish woman and would love to live back in my home country but unfortunately its been tainted by tourists
I agree with respecting keeping culture, language but if it develops into tribalism. We still all need other, a common language is needed and remember divided we fall. So we are who we are but we are also kindred. The world is a dangerous place so we need to find a good way to be different to our heritage but United in loving peace.
There is a similar problem in many small towns in the US. They become gentrified tourist destinations, which is good in one sense, but, more and more of the property becomes owned by outsiders, driving up prices, and locals have to struggle to remain a part of it.
Something similar happens in Florida with people who come down for the winter, we call them snowbirds. Not sure if that is a term used outside of Florida or not.
this is not about the US...those towns are not culturally unique
I was merely making an economic comparison. And, FYI, we do have many places here that ARE culturally unique.
@@bradjensen4927 Shutup. It's called a comment section. People have discussions about things that don't always directly involve the video.
@@lynnhubbard844 wrong, many Native American sites are definitely culturally unique.
you nailed it "your herritage is being treated as a commodity" yes one which we are not profiting from and one that strips our homeland from us physically. i am economically exiled from my homeland. a land my family has lived in for hundreds if not thousands of years. and what was said in the previous video about cornwall being a part of you having that connection to the land and sea. its honestly like a chunk has been torn out and ill most likely spend most if not all of my life trying to reclaim that chunk.
why didn't Prince Charles help out?
@@lynnhubbard844 you're asking me why the royal family, a family who have for centuries profited off the capture and exploitation of Celtic lands and labour, would help the cornish? you know the royal family directly profit from the "dutchy" right?
Try growing a spine ?
Did people where you live also choose to sell out their own future generations, just like people who live in Cornwall CHOSE to?
That’s sad but it’s hard to remain where you always lived. People migrated and moved against their will for the whole history. The difference is, in the past, people were physically destroyed to steal their more precious land. Now, best parts of the world are conquered economically by the rich.
My ancestors emigrated from Cornwall 7 generations ago. They settled in North Queensland initially but coincidentally most of us live around Brisbane now. We had a big family gathering about 10 years ago. Quite a few have managed to visit the UK and see Cornwall, but we are really just tourists now.
A part of my family emigrated to QLD from Cornwall also and we reside largely in Brisbane and the surrounding areas.
That's a massive world Issue 😂😂😂
I have to sympathise with Cornwall in respect of young locals being able to afford housing. This has been a problem for rural communities across the UK for a long time.
It’s a problem over the whole country for the younger generation. They will never be able afford to live where they work. It destroys the heart of a place. Places need to be loved, not shat on by the elites. ❤
Keeping up mass immigration of hundreds of thousands a year wont make house buying any cheaper.
Not just younger people, but local people generally. I know of other areas more local to me with similar problems of housing and second home ownership. It rips the heart out of the community, creates ghost towns and ghost economies, with shops shut during off peak tourist periods, further cementing problems for the remaining locals, and much of the tourist pound doesn't even then get spent in those communities.
@@thefirm4606 Right to buy is at the core of this problem. Low public housing stock = more runaway rental prices = more buy to let investors
As a Londoner who saw the average rental price for a 2 bedroom flat treble before having to leave, I always wonder why people talk about this issue as a rural problem? 😂A one-bedroom mould-infested bedsit in London charges more in rent than most semi-detached houses in Nottingham (where I moved to). Try working a minimum-wage job in London while renting a tiny flat for £1,200+ per month. I had to leave my entire community and all of my friends just to find a place that I could actually afford.
As a Breton person, I can't help but find some huge similarities between the situation in Brittany and in Cornwall, how the rich from the capital come and buy second homes (especially on the coast), how we are not being heard or respected, and how the language and culture are looked down upon.
From Breizh to Kernow, solidarity ✊
Conan was my IT teacher, and I grew up on agar road. Never left Truro and never will. Brilliant documentary, would love more!
Conan and Emma were so lovely, and really helped me with my project! Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊 I'm producing a new series at the moment (cycling around the UK, Isle of Man, and Ireland in search of stories), which will be out after the summer, so there'll be plenty more to come!
Not even on a holiday? That is a bit sad if that is the case mate.
@@theuglyhairmonster2 haha nah I’ve been to every continent on holiday but never left as in permanently moved :)
@@easyuketuts every continent? Even Antarctica?
@@baby_joe you got me there!
I live in Capetown and have been priced out of my own City because of wealthy foreigners buying out all the surroundings of Table Mointain....I now feel like a tourist in the City of my birth....totally relate to you good citizens of Cornwall...God bless you all !! ❤
You problem sounds like greedy people in cape town choosing to sell their houses to wealthy foreigners.
Yes...and the City Council increasing their rates plus insurance companies too...plus electriciy price rises ...etc.
The great wheel of Capitalism rolling along ....
Work harder and earn more.
If I commented every time I see someone mis-positing the definition of capitalism I'd comment anywhere upwards of twice a day on da Tube. No particular point revealed, nothing particularly identified as a problem, just 'capitalism' in an angry/defeated tone, spent by someone you have to wonder if they learned the definition from someone else using it in a pejorative context and not accurately.
Getting angry at wood because you get a splinter
The quality of our videos is amazing, Tieran. I find fascinating that Cornish people were able to revive their language.
Thanks so much, glad you enjoy them 😊 It's such an impressive revival effort; a 10,000% increase in Cornish speakers in just over 100 years!
Cornwall is for sale and unfortunately so are the Corns who live there.
Down the far SW (Penwith) it never needed reviving, because it has always been spoken there by the die-in-the-wool Cornish there.
Keep learning it, in fact learn it to the kids at school, even the ancestral indigenous english to find their celtish routes again..
@@KernowekTim This is completely untrue. Cornish was virtually extinct by 1800, with just a few very old native speakers remaining. For its recent revival, the language had to be completely recreated.
A fantastic 2-part doc! Always happy to see representation of the Real Cornwall. It's not just surfing and pasties! As far as independence goes I think the best move is to fight for a Cornish assembly, that way we can crack down on the amount of second homes and the crippling poverty in the old mining communities. Kernow Bys Vyken!
Hi Joe, thanks for the feedback, glad you enjoyed it! It was great to learn about more than just the classic tourist cliches while I was there 😊 Yeah that's what a lot of people I spoke to told me too: "let's see us empowered first, and then let's see where it goes from there", as Mike said in the video.
I do hope it happens eventually, it seems like it's the only way to tackle those issues you mentioned, as the British government seems to be doing very little to address them.
As a fourth generation Kernow-Australian, I take great pleasure in acknowledging that Sustralia, unlike the US, did not fight the English for independence. We simply got on with life and transgenerationally the English have become irrelevant. Not the English People, most of whom are warm-hearted and very thoughtful, but their remnant feudal Westminster system of parliament, with its lords and ladies, dukes and duchesses, princes and princesses, filthy rich landowners who control most things, and the god-forsaken clergy, who, despite lip service paid to the separation of state and church, nevertheless occupy numerous seats in the upper house as Lords Spiritual…oh, groan and grow up! In simple language, just ignore England, and get on with being Kernowyon. Over time, the remnant feudal Westminster system will collapse and we can establish the Celtic nation of Kernow once again. The Kernow diaspora owes it to bro goth agan tasow to pick up Kernewek (look up saysomethingin.com and select the free Kernow (Cornish in Sowsnek) course. You’ll be glad you did.
Tell me about it, I'm cornish born and bred with 3 cornish children and I'm classed as homeless as I'm in council temporary accommodation following a section 21 no fault eviction, I'd love to be able to even afford to RENT a property in the place I was born but even with working I cannot afford anything, its really a sad state of affairs
My great- great grandfather was Martin Curnow who emigrated to the US from Cornwall. I honestly had no idea that Cornwall had such a unique culture. Thank you for this video!
That's because the English tried to destroy Cornwall's Celtic culture, language and customs. Against all the odds the Cornish have somewhat clinged to their celtic identity.
@@Luie-r3h Yeah I don't know how we have done it. I think its the Tamar and Bodmin Moor that mostly protected us.
@@balls9420 If l can save enough one day I'll go and see where my Cornish 3x Great Grandfather came from. He fell in love with an Irish woman. Bless him those Irish lasses are hard to please. He must've been a good looking bloke.
Celtic😂😂😂
Oh crossing the Tamar like Moses😂😂
Meur ras arta, thanks again for a well put together documentary. I can tell this has been made from a point of curiosity and interest rather than the usual documentary style we get of "look at these weirdos, and aren't cream teas nice". I have to thank you for treating the Cornish and our issues with respect. Just referring Cornwall as "south westerly point of the UK" instead of as "England" is a kindness not often given and it really shows your care and research you've put into this.
Thank you for this feedback as well! It's been great to see people respond positively to the video 😊 I really enjoyed putting it together, and the people I met in Cornwall were so helpful when I was there.
It's a shame there isn't more stuff in the media about Cornwall that isn't just cream teas, surfing, and pasties. Hopefully as more people are made aware of Cornish culture and the language it'll become more fairly represented.
This American lady has always admired the beauty and spirit of Cornwall
I would love to visit.
Thank you for speaking Cornish. Too many Corns have forgotten how to speak their native tongue.
I live in teignmouth Devon, grandmother was from Pt Isaac and spoke kernewek. And on a trip to Breton was surprised she could converse in kernewek whilst there. Our river the teign was the dividing line between the Celts and Roman Britain except for a few outposts.
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Well done video and thank you. I am an Irish language speaker and I've dabbled in Welsh and Manx, but I had no idea the Cornish language was still being spoken. The "official" word is that it died out in the 18th century. So I'm glad people are speaking it and thank you for making these lovely videos and bringing attention to Kernow and their people and culture.
I’m a 7th generation Aussie descendant of Cornish miners who left for a new start downUnder. VERY proud of my Cornish forefathers 🖤🤍
Underappreciated videos with great production quality - hope you get the recognition you deserve!
The first time I became aware of a disconnect between Cornwall and the rest of England in particular, when severe weather hit the South West in the winter of 2014. That storm, although Dawlish in Devon was hardest hit, at a stroke it severed the only remaining rail link between the rest of England and Cornwall. One of the most vivid memories I have of that time were angry residents (understandably) calling for a reinstatement of what was the other rail route from Cornwall to the rest of England, which closed in the 1960's during the time that rail enthusiasts call the "Beeching Axe".
Basically, it was a period of time when railways were seen as a form of transport in terminal decline and British Rail was losing money hand over fist (by 1961 they were in debt to the sum of £136 million). To try and claw some of the money back, after the Transport Minister approved each shutdown of routes by rail, they then sold off the land and now, when people see that the politicians of the 1960's were short sighted and those routes closed down would be of a huge benefit to the local communities if reopened often can't because there's either a supermarket or housing built on the route of the railway. Under his "Reshaping of British Railways" report published in 1963, left Cornwall with that aforementioned one remaining rail link to the rest of England. Ian Hislop mentioned one of the communities in Cornwall that suffered when it's rail link was closed down:
"(Holding a 1960's poster showing the places people could travel to from London Waterloo) this is a charming poster from the 1960's showing all the exciting places you could travel to from London Waterloo on the glamorous sounding Atlantic Coast Express. But, after [Dr Richard] Beeching had done his work, all these stations were closed and you couldn't get to any of these places by rail. The north Cornish village of Padstow (one of the places mentioned on that poster) depended on its trains. The railway had arrived here in 1899, and immediately revolutionised the local economy, carrying fish out and tourists in. Over 60 years on, the track which had brought such prosperity to Padstow was carried off for scrap. At the old station, there's now a car park. And along the old coastal route, the views are only enjoyed by walkers and the occasional cyclist. When the railway went, it was the workers on the local lines who were hit first,"
One of the grievances workers along the route to Padstow found was that (allegedly) those taking traffic numbers were deliberately going to stations like Dunmere Halt at off peak hours, when people were either at school or at work, or already gone home etc, not measuring the peak traffic. But I digress
There is no disconnect, Cornwall same as Devon/Dorset South West of Britain/England. 😊
Thank you very much for this! I hope we can get more Cornish content :)
so very well produced series, thank you
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it!
As an Englishman, id love to see Cornwall become independent, and i think that this nationalist movement is a good step to hopefully achieving that goal. I just wish that the people in my country would appreciate their culture as much as you Cornish lads do.
Thank you for giving us cornish a voice, I appreciate you alot. Also great content
You’re about as Cornish as a Cornetto. Take a ancestral DNA test and be English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh/Scandinavian like the rest of us
Always a joy when the hallowed English wander down to 'discover' Celtic areas. The next stages inevitably being destruction and exploitation. Quickly followed by disdain coupled with a patronising attitude shown by the English sent to correct everything so it is more like England.
Really very well compiled!❤❤❤
Spot on with the comments on Wales giving all their money to England and getting a pittance back, HS2 is a prime example, our water being exported to England and getting a pittance in return, the profits from the mining industry, all the profits went out to England, same with the mining industry in Cornwall and not reinvested in the areas, a 20 minute video on TH-cam, narrated by Michael Sheen, is well worth watching ‘For Wales see England’ would be applicable to Cornwall
Such a well explained and balanced report - your journalism is a credit to you!
Thanks you for teaching me so much of something i Never Ever heard of
My great-grandfather was from Redruth, immigrated to America. I remember seeing a letter from one of his uncles complained how the Cornish are "an oppressed people in our own country"--so this would have been back in the... 1930's or so. I didn't know what he meant at the time, but now I see.
Well said! Good luck on your journey to back to Independence. Love from a Celtic cousin in Scotland.❤
Do you know what Cornwall and Scotland have in common? They both won't be independent!Good luck with that guys, because only this can help you lol.
its all in the mind to be honest history will ebb and flow one step foreward two steps back good luck to both trains of thoughts.
They could become last enclaves of the celtic culture even for the indigenous english who still have celtic blood...
Right, let’s all just become independent until every county is it’s own country. More and more division is the way forward.
My Grandmother's father is a Nankivell from Cornwell. He migrated here to New Zealand. Are there any Nankivells left in Cornwell?
I knew the word Cornwall, but I had no idea of its history, or that there is a Cornish language. I’m happy that your language hasn’t died out. I’m also happy to learn a bit about lovely Cornwall.
Me too...❤❤❤❤
I am from Newfoundland, Canada. Most of our population came from the southwest of England as well as from Ireland. Also I was a fan of one of Enid Blyton's book series "Mallory Towers" about a girls' boarding school in Cornwall.
I watched a 1960s ufo incident that happened in Newfoundland & did notice the accents of the old guys which was a strange hybrid of Bristol & Irish 👍
I think this is even better than the initial video, the look into political issues there is really interesting. :)
We’ll done documentary. Thoroughly enjoyed learning a bit about KERNOW. Thank you
This video only has 35k views compared to almost 450k on Part 1. Please consider actually putting "Part 1" in the title of the first video so that more people know there's a Part 2. You should also pin a link in the comments section there directing people to this second video.
Good point, thanks for that! I think a big part of it was that I only recently put "part 2" on the thumbnail for this one haha, it's a learning curve
I’d love to come back and live in Cornwall as a Curnow , we’ve been in the states since 1860
I'm Australian and my Cornish great grandad who couldn't read or write, who grew up in a work house jumped ship at Fremantle, Western Australia. His life was hard but he new he was onto a good thing when he got to Oz.
This is an argument that could apply to many areas of England. For a small country there are many areas with distinct identities. Introducing Proportional Representation would go along way to improve local representation and rid us of our damaging two party system. Until then it will be a long difficult struggle to bring about change.
While this is true in some aspects, the main thing that differentiates Cornwall from the other regions is that Cornwall has a language and is almost identical to Wales but doesn't have the same devolved powers as Wales - most places that have distinct identities haven't held on to them the same as the Cornish people have mainly due to geography and being cut off. I think the best thing for Cornwall is a national assembly, we need to be in control of our own powers, second homes are absolutely destroying our duchy.
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Celtic languages were spoken all around Briton historically. In Kent where I live, many place names are Celtic. Even the manor port of Dover is of Celtic origin.
All around the country, you will find Celtic place names. We are the same people. You just hold onto the original language for longer.
@@lumihiutaleitakaamos3949 also less diluted due to geography, the Saxons forced us in to what Cornwall is today, and they left us there, due to that there was a lot less mixed cultures hence why we held onto it for a longer period, also the language was spoken in Cornwall as a first language up into the 18th century, 1000 years longer than any other so called county today.
@@Dungiom Did the Saxons force you into Cornwall? I wouldn’t be so sure about that!
Have you researched this? Because when you research it, you realise that there are many many different theories about this all saying different things.
The truth is that we don’t know if the Saxons mingled with the local people or whether they forced them to the other side of the island.
However, if we look at other invasions of migration around the British isles, we can see certain patterns:
The Irish migrated to Scotland - they mingled with the local Britons and despite the original people being Britons, they suddenly all became Scottish, started speaking Gaelic ,but the original Britons didn’t go anywhere. They didn’t run, they just stayed there and had babies with the invaders.
The Vikings invade/d migrated to Briton. They mingled with the local people, sometimes upset them, but eventually they all marries, had babies etc and again all the people are the same. They didn’t run away, they just stayed and mingled with the Vikings.
Also, don’t forget that the Celts did not originally belong to Britain. They also migrated to Britain where native Britons were already living and they mingled with them. the original Britons didn’t run away from the Celts, they stayed and together they had babies etc.
What makes you think that the Saxons, the Angles and the Jutes forced all the Celtic people to one side of the country and did not mingle with them and have babies? How were they any different from the Irish, the Vikings, the Celts, the Normans etc etc
It’s highly unlikely that the Cornish were forced to the other side of the country. The most likely scenario (and also the one that happens all around the world still today) is that migration happened and people had relationships with their descendants being a mix of of the original people and the people who migrated. So the people of our island are descended from the original people regardless of whether they were born in England, Scotland or Wales.
This is all happening right now too. There are lots of polish people living in the UK now. They will have relationships with British people but their children will be British and will marry with more British people and if anything they will probably just become more British over time genetically.
This also happened in Turkey quite recently in history. The Turks who were originally from the area close to Mongolia and China, migrated to Turkey. There weren’t many Turks who invaded - it was a small number, but they gained control and spread their language and culture and passed these to the original people in Turkey who spoke a completely different and unrelated language. Now everyone in Turkey speaks Turkish even though their ancestors didn’t speak Turkish. However, the people of Turkey are still the same, they just mixed a little with the Turks.
Even in our own country, we’ve all been marring each other from different areas of the country and having children with people who are not from our area of the country. I have English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh and Cornish ancestry - and ancestry from up north etc. All British have relationships with each other.
So sure, keep thinking that your different if it makes you happy but I can assure we are all the same people, all linked, all connected.
One theory suggests that the Celtic languages spread by trade via the Atlantic but it was not the original language os the British isles.
Dydh da!
As a Welshman I am very proud to announce that I have quite a large ancestry from Cornwall. I only found that out recently from AncestryDNA. It was quite a welcome surprise so you can imagine my happiness when I found out. I have been doing my bit to learn my own language and help revive it as we are currently undergoing a revivalist period but sadly still only 20% of the population are said to speak or understand Cymraeg with fluency. Still, cultural revival is never an overnight thing anyway. And when I am at a certain level of mastery Kernowek will be the next language I fully intend on learning to the same fluency and doing my bit to help Cornish revival as well.
It is said that language is one of the keys to one's identity, and I believe that to be a truism, so I'm hoping that at some point there will be a lot more than 400-500 Cornish people who can and will speak their own language as their first language and for Kernowek to be fully recognised as Cornwall's state language.
Solidarity with Cornwall ✊🏻🏴✊🏾
I live on Norway's southernmost coast, which has the same problems with the most idyllic towns being turned into leisure towns. This led to the authorities introducing compulsory residence, so that the locals could afford to buy houses in the center of the cities or along the coast in the most idyllic places. Some places have later abolished the residence requirement for various reasons, but if the same development accelerates, I think they will reintroduce it. If you inherit a home, you are allowed to use it as a holiday home even if there is an obligation to live there.
Awesome video! So nice that you reached out to locals
As someone from the East of England we're very far away in the country from Celtic Heritage regions, meaning I didn't learn much about them at all until I moved away from home, with the exception of Kernow. I learnt about Kernowek on a holiday there and have been fascinated with the Celtic history that is barely mentioned in our country.
Currently learning Cymraeg as I'm hoping to study a masters in Cymru soon
Thank you for two thoughtful videos about the real issues that matter in Cornwall.
I really enjoyed making them, glad you liked them! 😊
One major problem of managing regional identities in the UK is that there are no "states" like for example a federal republic like Germany has them.
Germany has 16 state parliaments, they deal with the regional identities, they make their regional laws about things that are in their realm of competence while the federal parliament (Bundestag) deals with the federal legislation.
Such state parliaments would've made managing and also acknowledging regional identities and needs a lot better in the past. But then again the UK system is a crusted old system that would need some general reforms...
This is an excellent video. TH-cam needs more of them.
If we could do just one single thing to preserve Cornish culture it would be to stop Cornwall Council and Cornish housing associations giving Cornish social housing to up-country people who want to "retire by the seaside" at the expense of Cornish people. At the moment, anyone in social housing east of the Tamar can transfer here on a whim. Cornish people have to wait decades for a permanent home. It's so obviously wrong, I'm astonished that nothing has already been done. Those who govern us are truly Kernophobic and engineering our genocide.
Meur ras rag dha gwydhyow.
Wait until the asylum seekers start arriving.
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 They are doing. The protesters were called "racists" by the head of Cornwall Council. I rest my case.
Good luck with that ! The liberal left is avid supporter of indigenous Rights in Aus / NZ / Canada and
USA. But try raising the issue here and you are " Far Right ",
Racist / Extremist ..!!
What you mean by ‘expense of Cornish people’? It’s Cornish people who are paid more by the foreigners. They could sell their homes to locals for half price but they choose to get big money instead.
@@skathwoelya2935You know you're like 50% descended from Breton refugees from France, right?
The “fisherman’s cottages” are still advertised as such to tourists (the only ones that can afford to stay in them) as holiday lets - no fishermen have lived in them for decades - they all live in the council estates.
I live in PZ
I have heard of the "Stannery Parliament" in Cornwall from a friend of mine who is also a descendant of Cornish Grandparents here in New Zealand. Does this exist and if it does what powers does it have?
More power and energy to you and Mebyon Kernew, Michael! Kernow Bys Vykken!
All fine and good... but I didn't hear from the other local people on why they wouldn't want independence - is there a follow up video to share that side?
Agreed... would love to hear other positions
Truly enjoyed your film on Cornwall. Watching Poldark and Doc Martin endeared me to the scenery and history. Having lived in Ireland myself, I appreciate Celtic characteristics which I would share with the Cornish. Maybe one day would allow a visit there, please God.
5:46 "what money" I hate it when people talk about finances without reading a single budget. From 2021 - 2022 the Cornish Council borrowed £185 million which was 63% of overall funding. 26% was made up of grades and EU investments. Only 7% comes from revenue e.g(taxes). And 4% Capital Receipts. The Cornish depth now stands at £856.369 million pounds. So No, Cornwall doesn't have any money to speek of. And the idea that England simply takes money away is untrue. The worrying part is Council can go barkrupt, take Croydon as an example.
Two questions: 1) Isn't Cornwall where most of the pirates came from? 2) I see the prefix "Tre" used a lot in place names and surnames. What does that mean?
I'm Welsh, not Cornish, but "tre" is the same in both languages. It originally meant something like farmstead, and later evolved to mean town.
It's basically equivalent to the suffix -ton in English.
@@KaiserMacCleg Interesting, thank you. I thought it might have been like "mac" or "ap"--but instead of a suffix like "ton", "by", "ford" or "ley" (as in Anglo Saxon place names) its a "prefix". You can tell I'm obsessed with these kind of things!
@@impalaman9707 Me too! It appears in surnames because of habitational names - Trevithick, for example, is from Cornish Tre + Methek (Homestead of the Physician). Methek (C) = Meddyg (W) = Medic (E).
My great grandmother’s surname was Trevorrow.
Thank you for these videos. It was interesting to hear about the nationalist movement. Some of the discussion reminded me of our American states' rights issues that crop up from time to time. We have a strong tension between a centralized federal government and the desire for each state to have a certain level of autonomy. It sounds to me like your more local entities are trying to "wake up" the London based government to your needs and desires.
I am Cornish American, my dad's parents came here from Penzance and St. Just. Unfortunately my grandparents passed before I began to truly appreciate my heritage. Can anyone direct me to some reliable sources to begin learning about Kernow?
Hey! Actually, Emma (who features in this video) works at the Cornish Language Fellowship. I think they run online courses in the language. In terms of history and Cornish culture, some of the others I interviewed in this video run the Kernow Matters to Us (KMTU) site. I think they have resources on there that you can have a look at. I don't think TH-cam will let me post the links in here but if you google them you'll find them. Perhaps sending an email through the KMTU website contact form would be helpful for finding resources too :)
@@TieranFreedman thank you 🙂
Seems many Americans are desperate to be more than just American it’s ok to be American you know
Cornish American 😂😂😂
You will always be a Corn, even though you live in America. It is good you are proud to be a Corn.
What you are describing insofar as vacationers buying 2nd homes is exacrly what WE in upstate NH USA are dealing with- people from MA, NH, VT, CT, NY, RI have allnflocked here for our beautiful scenery and majestic mountains- fishing, hunting, snomobiling, skiing, hiking and other touristy things...In the harsh winters (-30F and 4 feet of snow, constant blizzards) people leave...and go to Florida, or S. Carolina, or warmer climes. Only to return in Summer...The economy takes a hit yearly.
Mebyon Kernow gained 5.3% of votes cast and approx 2% (5 of the 87 contested, in total) of seats, which improves their standing but hardly provide a platform for Independence or even semi-autonomy?
Of course a dysfunctional First Past the Post voting system profoundly shapes electoral outcomes but I find it hard to believe that changing to a decent proportional method (say Single Transferable Vote) would bring Mebyon Kernow its desired scenario of a majority of seats in Cornwall's council chamber? Michael Bunney (featured here) was a successful candidate, elected for the St Mewan and Grampound election district.
Thank you for this... I love learning.. 3rd generation American here in Michigan ..love to my cornish cousins
Listening to all these comments about being priced out of your area made an impression on me. Here in Florida it’s the same. Very crowded with ridiculous housing prices. In fact probably going to move soon. My daughters family has to. Due to home prices/rent. I feel for the poor/older people on a fixed income. Cost of living is way up.
Thank you for making this video though ! Your investigation is through and you going to the location itself and doing interviews shows so much integrity and respect. I really appreciate how you have displayed these issues without an agenda or blaming the Cornish people for their problems.
Thanks Amanda! Glad you liked it 😊 I really enjoyed making this video and travelling to Cornwall to learn about more than just the touristy clichés. I also didn't know too much about Cornwall before this project, so it was really eye-opening for me personally.
I'm currently working on videos from Wales, the Isle of Man, Ireland, and Scotland which will be out after the summer, so keep an eye out!
Maybe Wales, Cornwall and Scotland need to create a Celtic Union with fully devolved Parliaments for each country within it? Would that be feasible?
No.
Remember the celts are extinct. Welsh, Irish and Cornish are celtic descendants, not so much Scotland but it's still there. Independent parliaments are unlikely to happen unfortunately and will remain unlikely to happen due to the money we bring to England.
@@WelahMan " due to the money we bring to England" 🤣🤣
@@WelahMan what money is this? hahahaha
Hello brothers across the pond.lm currently trying to figure out. Something wondering if I too am one of you sure would make me proud. My name is Elmer Cornish
Its worth pointing out that as a result of the deindustrialisation they did get £1bn in EU funding yet Cornwall still voted overwhelmingly to Leave in 2016. So they cut off their own access to cash which the UK Govt will not replace - but as we are told they all knew what they were voting for..........
Yes, Cornish people not just decided to destroy their economy in the Brexit referendum, but they then decided to elect Tories for all 6 the Cornish seats in 2019.
Anyone who believes anything BloJo says deserves everything they get-and that means most of the Cornish people who vote.
The second home owners don't vote-this is entirely on the natives..
My grandfather's people come from Cornwall. I have been a few times since the 60s and have loved it. My mother always said it was her favorite place in the country.
The problem of beautiful locations being priced up and displacing locals is not just Cornwall's problem. Here in the US countless places are no longer inhabited by the locals that built them and worked in them. As they were largely beautiful but rural areas the kids moved out and the aged parents sold to outsiders. That is a fact. In the UK the entire nation is a theme park. To outsiders it seems that the nation is a show for tourists. Almost any village , town or city is stuffed with tourists. That is just a sad fact. People visit and decide they love it. If they have the money they move in and sit in their homes. They don't work or have a business that is locally focused. When enough move in it destroys what was special Just the way the world is. Everyone still on the hunt for the undiscovered gem.
Locals displaced? No. Greedy locals choosing to sell to outsiders is the problem. Cornish people created this problem.
Genuine question - would love to know the answer if anyone can clarify it for me - in the video the narrator says that Cornwall gets much of its income from tourism and then one of the Cornish politicians being interviewed says that the money from rented second homes doesn’t go into the Cornish economy. Which is it? Either renting places out to tourists provides a net financial benefit to the county or it doesn’t. The effect of holiday home purchases driving up prices for locals is another matter (that affects every holiday hotspot or desirable place to live or visit) but I just wondered whether property rentals are a net positive or negative.
Holiday homes, in the main, are owned by English incomers who, in many cases, don't reside in Cornwall. Their business (holiday rentals) makes them money which does not go into the local economy.
Surprised the King Charles Dutchy of Cornwall wasn’t mentioned along with the taxes
The nearest town outside the city I live in is named Truro. I had no idea where that name came from.
A Chorn gu brath agus Saor Alba. Greetings from Scotland, Independence for all the Celtic nations.
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Tha mi cho toilichte gu faicinn an Gàidhlic cànan ann an TH-cam. Duilich, mo Gàidhlic chan eil glè mhath.
I'm 100% in favour of recognition of Cornwall as a home nation and better funding of the Cornish language!
I would return to Cornwall if I could afford it. Would love to be where my family hails from.
As a Cornish person, I'm not sure I want independence. More recognition, definitely. But I'm not sure an independent Cornwall could survive
Cornwall is about the same size as a lot of independent countries; the Maldives, Luxembourg, so on...many smaller places are independent and have been for years.
@@PlaguevonKarma the problem is, there's very little in the way of resources here, and an economy wouldn't be able to be supported by tourism alone
@@fabulouschild2005 and the same stale arguments have been put forward to say why other countries shouldn't get independence from Westminster. But so far 65 countries have achieved that independence and not one has asked to come back because they are more able to decide their destiny. Ireland now has twice the GDP per capita of the UK
The housing must be sold off to outsiders otherwise how would they grab all the properties for Airbnb etc ?
Poldark - did it ever include anyone speaking Cornish?
The original 70s TV series had Angharad Rees, who at least was Welsh.
I only recently found out my ancestors were mostly Cornish. I know very little on the history and Cornish culture and origins could you recommend some books?
Many thanks for any suggestions!
I haven't read it myself but Jon Fletcher's book The Western Kingdom: The Birth of Cornwall has good reviews and would appear to provide a good non academic read about Cornwall. It's available in paperback and Kindle. Reasonable price too.
I understand that before becoming King the then Duke of Cornwall, Charles, owned a large chunk of land here. Called the Duchy of Cornwall. 52,000 + hectares to be precise. This land borders 20 counties, including Cornwall. This inheritance created by Edward 3rd passes this estate from monarch to their eldest son. Now, William is the new owner now. This inheritance is valued at approx. £1bn & generates a personal income for William of approx £20m. The Crown says these figures are "speculative". Regardlees of the true figures we can agree lots of profit to be made here. Should part of this profit be returned to the people of Cornwall? Or should it remain in William's bank accounts? Good question! 😱
Is geography different here? the second paragraph reads "You've probably heard of the four countries of the UK, but few know that Cornwall, currently administered as a county in southeast England, is also a Celtic nation.2 South EAST?
Still, perhaps this error can be corrected soon? And any other errors that may also be in here?
Yikes, that's an embarrassing one. Must've been extra tired when I typed that. Corrected now!
ive been going to cornwall for 50 years working and playing..i consider myself part cornish even though i wasnt born there
Great videos, although I would say that the Celtic language spoken in Cornwall is actually that of the Dumnonii which used to be the Celtic peoples in Cornwall, Devon and the edge of Somerset. If the Cornish heritage is marginalised, the Celtic history of Devon is totally denied. I’ve never heard of Devonwall but agree with the idea of re establishing Dumnonia
@Simon King Don't get any ridiculous tribalism ideas. We do not need it in this day and age and it's proven over the years it's done way more harm than good.
Original cornish peoples went on verge of extinction because they were battle axe nordics whose having black hair and blue eyes. Indigenous cornish people still used as ritual sacrifice for colonialism toward americas also agenda new world order. @Tieran Freedman
As a Devonian by birth and ancestry though not by upbringing I agree with that idea too
I had no idea about this until I came across your videos on the subject.
Now I want to learn Cornish - I'm a teacher on italki, maybe some speakers could sign up there and teach it! It's recognised as a language, but I couldn't find any teachers.
There are tons of resources to learn it online.
This can go on our new political playlist.
Please can Devon come with you seeing as we used to be one country(Dumnonia)!
More than welcome, I hate the Cornish/Devon division - we used to be one nation who also fought the English together in the prayerbook rebellion, we shared a language a culture and lands. I wish our similarities were spoken about more
Lots of similarities between the political situation of Cornwall in the UK and Brittany in France. Obvious similarities in their flags, hymn and in their languages:
[kw] Kernow bys vyken!
[br] Breizh da viken!
Despite all the invasions and oppression over the centuries, Cornwall & Devon still retain their identity and are very distict from the rest of the country. The celtic culture and values still remain. It's definitely something that should be recognised and celebrated.
The funny thing is we're still fighting invaders each day! Second home owners forcing us out of our towns! Some things never change 😅
A big problem with independence is the youth just don't care. The majority of them couldn't care less about our history, our language, or our culture - they'd rather copy what the Londoners are doing instead. Unless that changes I just can't see it happening, unfortunately.
What I would like to see is Devon getting reabsorbed into Cornwall or at least gaining recognition by the other celtic nations. While it's no longer officially part of cornwall, it culturally is in every single way. Shared language, shared values, shared history, shared blood. We should be reunited.
100% of the value of the second property in council tax each year.
Is the bird at 0:30 really that big haha
Everyone loves to blame the English! How are us every day Englishmen supposed to know if the owner of an airbnb are Cornish ffs?
I've stayed in Yorkshire, owned by a Scottish woman. Stayed in Edinburgh, owned by a Chinese family. Countless hotels, owned by all sorts of different people. We have the same thing in England! I still appreciate these places, shop locally, eat in local restaurants, etc. Tourist zones need our tourism, all over the UK, as simple as that. We also offer employment, which many of those complaining enjoy the benefit.
Sick of UK Government? Guess what, so are we lol.
We as people, have a lot in common and are stronger together. Government is a separate issue. Keep it that way.
It’s funny how to be proud is considered to be a virtue yet pride is something of a sin.
I first visited Cornwall 50 years ago. and several visists throughout the 70's, I was somwhat active in the Stannary movement, the Cornish Stannary Parliamanet was a demand at the time. The Stannary was a sort og tinmine towns legal body that could make laws for all of Cornwall. You don't mention the Stannary in your videos, so I suspect Stannaries is not the thing today.
I did buy some 300 books on Cornish language, culture and such, and took them home to Norway, where they still are in the Cornish section of my library, I stayed mostly in Bodmin, where Mebyon Kernow and other Cornish organizations had som kind of offices (as weel as sales of books) I learned Cornish, now forgotten, but I was able to understand some Breton in Brittany though.
I looked fora house to buy in the Scilly Isles at the time, but that never came to fruition . In Norway the coastal small cities for some 50 years put a lien on all property that it had to be inhabited 11 months of the year, so called 'boplikt' (live in duty), whisch kept the prices down, for if you wanted a holiday home in the form of a local home, you needed someone to live there while you yourself lived somewhere else. That person often paid no rent, and were sometimes paid to live there. It kept prices down, and the vacanscy rates under 3%, whilst the towns that did not place these liens on property often saw 50% vacancy in houses in the winter. But somehow, after several court rounds , several of these liens were deemed unlawful, and nowadays it mostly other systems that keep properties lived in. In towns which have no occupancy system i normal ouse would cost you some £ 800 000, whilst a town withs some system it would cost you £ 150 000.
Learning all about all these micro -nations, we in africa call them tribes or clans. You start to realise how small england in its puritanical state actually is. Its a collective of different celtic nations. Southafrica for example is a collective of these :zulu,xhosa,tswana,sotho,tsonga, basically having their own territory and indigenous roots in a particular area
I agree with many of the points describing the plight of the Cornish people, but I don't see how getting independence now will help the issue. Would it be immoral to take the properties away from people who have purchased them, just because they aren't Cornish? I believe so. I also believe Cornish history, the last millennia of it, has been so intertwined with English and later British history, that it would be a shame to disregard that also. I wonder if there is a way to get more independence and recognition for Cornwall, whilst still keeping its English heritage too. Would love to hear some thoughts on this!
Thank you for that I know I have something to show to people when they ask me Corolla just part of England isn't so now I can recommend your video the more we sing Our Song the more people remember the words.
I sympathize with the Cornish people. May you indeed be heard, language remembered and economic improvement.
Someone from Arizona, USA no ethnic relation.
As a Cornishman who had to leave to get a decent wage those in this video thinking they can be independent are deluded. As a student journalist I interviewed a fair few of those in the independence movement and well, they're just dreaming.
Люди, которые арендуют жилье, покупают товары в корнских магазинах, едят в местных ресторанах и т.д. Это тоже i Bow Sows уходит? Обычно туризм деньги приносит...
The problem is, because economically over the last 50 years and especially since Margret Thatcher, the bad economy there made it so that houses became too expensive to live in for the locals but very affordable for the English in England, so most homes, restaurants and other businesses in Cornwall in tourist areas are owned by people living back in other regions of England, thus they gain nothing back out of it.
What is the Duke of Cornwall doing for Cornwall? Is there still a duke?
As an "emmet", I can see where you're coming from. But what is needed is for Cornwall to have it's own TV news networks (BBC and ITV).
BBC South West is so Devon-orientated.
Nothing wrong with pride, but no room for extremism.
As s English person I very much Sympathise with Cornwall, its not unique in being neglected, most of England is neglected and so is Scotland and wales, me being from the north of England I know all about government neglect, I too would love a northern parliament because I believe the north of England has a distinct culture and identity.
Now what I disagree with is calling Cornwall a “nation” or a “country” because its not, it’s been an integral part of England for 1000 years longer than it was ever a country in its own right, I see no reason to refer to an English county as a nation. I understand it’s people have a unique culture but so does Yorkshire, Essex, hell even Liverpool, it’s not unique with having a strong identity, so to me it makes me uncomfortable calling a part of England a nation, it may have been a long long time ago but it’s not anymore, The north of England was once an independent Northumbria but we don’t identify with that.
I can understand the separatist desires in Scotland, wales and Northern Ireland, after all the U.K is a union of 4 nations, so it’s understood for them to what to leave the union. Cornwall is not the same, it’s an integral part of England and has been for the entire existence of the English nation, To me it’s as English as the other counties, and calling the Cornish a separate people is incorrect they are English people but with a strong regional identity.
I as for Cornwall being an actual independent country, well it’s absolutely laughable at best and delusional at worst, no government would ever allow a part of England to become independent this isn’t Scotland, it’s not about a union, it’s an integral part of the English nation. Cornwall has a small of 500,000, compared to Scotlands 5 million and wales 3 million, it’s biggest economic asset is tourism, I get smaller nations exist but not ones that have been integral to another country for 1000 years. So that guy who spoke about independence for Cornwall as if its feasible needs to pull his head out of the clouds, it’s not ever going to happen, and I mean never.
Even if Cornwall kept every penny it produced it still wouldn’t be able to afford independence, because it’s just so small and lacks any real resources or industry, and even if it did become independent it would be so heavily dependent on England that it wouldn’t be really independent at all, and it would lose its representation in parliament as well, in the scenario it would have even less of a say, because it would be a mere vassal. A independent Cornwall couldn’t realistically close its border with England, it couldn’t win a trade war with it, it couldn’t beat it at anything, what England says Cornwall would do in this scenario, so the people of Cornwall go from representation in Westminster to being a subordinate with no representation. Best comparison would be France and Monaco, Monaco is technically independent on paper, but in reality it’s reliant on France for everything, meaning it in fact has little independence to speak off, this would be the same with Cornwall if it became independent, it wouldn’t harm England if it became independent because England would still call all the shots, it would harm Cornwall alone.
So although I understand autonomy within England and within the wider U.K, I think independence for Cornwall is a complete fantasy and the time and energy should be best placed elsewhere, i may come off as harsh, but I’m just looking at it realistically.
Cornish independence is just English-hating bandwagoning, I'm going to start campaigning for Norfolk independence soon because why the fuck not, right?
I think that Cornwall is culturally, historically, and geographically close enough to Wales for this to evolve towards concrete administrative and political developments.
Why not an administrative and political association of Cornwall and Wales with its Welsh and Cornish Parliament / Senedd Cymru a Kornog?
Best wishes from Ireland!
So you'll be rejecting the investment in Spaceport Cornwall?
The locals need to rise up and protest and do anything in their power to re claim their land I'm a proud cornish woman and would love to live back in my home country but unfortunately its been tainted by tourists
Is Cornish taught in schools?
I agree with respecting keeping culture, language but if it develops into tribalism. We still all need other, a common language is needed and remember divided we fall. So we are who we are but we are also kindred. The world is a dangerous place so we need to find a good way to be different to our heritage but United in loving peace.