🚨 Flashlight Challenge! Do You Brag About Your SMP or Do You Hide From the Spotlight?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- This is such a commonly spoken about subject! There are many different versions of “SMP” out there, it’s hard to differentiate.
One way to distinguish is to see up close under the spotlight and see for yourself. We always mention that most artists only show immediate results on the internet, but the HEALED result is what the client needs to see, and up close!
Subtle Pigmentation can also be described as the highest standards in Scalp Micropigmentation industry.
We believe in consideration of getting Subtle P, one should feel confident and boastful about it! That’s why we call it wearable art. One should want to show if off, while also having the option to not share or discuss showing it off because of the high standards achieved (can look exactly like real hair stubble).
We get phone calls everyday from guys that say they conceal their smp, or never let anyone see up close. It doesn’t have to be that way!
Please let us know your thoughts below!
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I got an smp about a month ago. I wish that I would have seen this video. I switched from hair fibers to save time and I absolutely hate it. Smp looks so good in lighting that is not above my head. The problem is in the work environment , all of the lights are over my head. I am getting my second treatment next week. I really hope that I like it after the 2nd one. I went to a well respected company. This is great info.
Yes sir. In our opinions, if anyone in public or gym or office can immediately tell something is off or unnatural, it’s actually just as bad or worse than being bald.
So, it’s 100% undetectable or bust!
Hoping things are working out for you now. 🙏
I live in the Netherlands and would like to have this done at your clinic. I'll get in touch. This video has convinced me 😍
Awesome! We look forward to speaking to you and meeting you in the future :)
I don't have a hair lost but smp is an amazing solution, and I love buzzing my hair ,it looks cool 😎
Love to hear that!
Super video. I love your work so much. Your SMP under the light looks superb, 100% natural, wow!
The highest standard of SMP, Scalp Logic. Always excited to watch your videos, so informative.
Is it just me or do their camera quality feel blurry
Check out our Instagram @ScalpLogic if you want to see more detail. We show more up close healed detail than anyone else in the industry.
Under bright lights it disappears.
It’s like a mood ring!
Is trico and smp the same? I see in Europe weird blank ink wiped away and impressive results??? What’s the difference
Trico? Please enlighten me on this one. Never heard of that before.I am only aware of SMP. Thanks.
Your smp looks amazing.
Just about every photo I’ve seen with guys that have done this have facial hair. I am clean-shaven and I want to stay that way. Thoughts about doing this while remaining clean shaven?
Haha. I hear that a lot, you’re not wrong.
My thoughts are that only guys clean shaven or can’t grow a beard notice that many guys who chose SMP also chose to grow a beard of some sort.
It’s just like hairline preference or even exercise routine preference, it will vary from person to person based on many factors…different strokes for different folks :)
@@scalp_logic I agree whatever anyone wants to do. My point was that every single photo that I’ve seen of men who have had this procedure done have either a beard or stubble on their face. I guess my question is - does this look good on a guy who chooses to shave his face daily. I understand that looking good is in the eye of the beholder. But I am guessing and I could be wrong that all of the guys who do this either have a beard or facial hair to draw attention to the beard rather than the head. Which does make sense. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
@@aaronosheroff2980 I agree with you that guys opt for some facial hair to take away from the bald head. That goes for SMP guys and also anyone experiencing hair loss in general.
The moves an average guy makes when losing hair: exercise for better body, some tan, grow facial hair, get a unique pair of glasses ✔️
To answer your question, of course Subtle P will enhance ANY appearance in comparison to being bald. The frame a hairline puts on someone’s face is severely overlooked. This applies no matter if a gent has facial hair or not :)
Hi, can you recommend a UK artist for SMP? Thanks.
I hide from the light tbh
Oh no! As a bald guy, that’s not groovy to put it lightly.
We are here to help if we can 🙏✌️
Got mine done but with lighting it’s gone my scalp is mad shiny so my smp isn’t as visible where are you located?
We are located in Houston Texas
Lighting does that to hair anyway.
Joe you did mine in Scottsdale, you still here?
Hello! That was 5-7 years ago, just before I started my own company :) Through your username, I think I know exactly who you are!
We’re not in AZ, but easy to travel to Houston or California. Call or text us @424-335-3495
@@scalp_logic perfect, I text. I’ll be in Houston next week
Can you post a photo of the back of your head would like to see how blending looks on lighter color
Coming soon, and you can see on our IG @ScalpLogic
Bet that tree wishes it could get it done.
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I hide from mine. When you get older it's no longer a good idea, in my opinion. Doesn't look right for an older man to have this and I even have the receded hairline look. I wish I could find a laser technician that could remove some of the SMP around my temples and make the crown thin looking to look more natural for my age.
Where did you get it done?
Thank you very much for sharing, I believe there are thousands of guys in your position both young and older.
I believe this is more of a testimony of the skill and understanding of a given artist. It also falls on the client to direct or demand their treatment to be “natural”.
Also, many guys opt to get a higher or more receded hairline, but without the right flow or contour to fit a given face, too often they are left with a high and stamped on looking effect (which hurts my heart while I’m typing here).
New York. Scalp Micro USA. To me they did a good job however, I think a lot of this issue is me. I still wear a hat out in public and can't get past the idea of someone noticing. So on that note I saw your video of you removing yours with the laser. How did that work out for you in the end? I want to do the same thing and just be done with it already or like I said earlier remove some of it to make it less perfect so to speak. It's funny how life comes full circle with some things.
@@ddvutg I hear what you’re saying. It could just be in the head of a man with smp, or it could be that the treatment doesn’t look as real as real hair. Of course the issue may be a little bit of both.
In terms of removing only a portion, I have never seen someone remove just a portion and be happy as it doesn’t look good or natural. If removal of some is the desire, I always recommend removing the entirety. From there either just being naturally bald again, or opt for a more subtle treatment.
@@ddvutg I still maintain that people who think smp doesn’t look good on an older guy, are not aware of how sublte and natural some artists can make it.
Thank you so much for sharing. You’d be surprised how many guys will see this and you’re helping them whether you know it or not :))
@@scalp_logic ever since I saw your video on the subtle approach and also the removal by laser, I’ve wanted to talk to you ever since to get your input. Thank you very much for getting back to me. It’s much appreciated.. and for anyone out there that’s thinking about doing anything in regards to hair replacement. I would simply say do your research and seriously seriously think about what you really want because I spent thousands upon thousands of dollars and in the end I’m still as insecure as I was in the beginning. In hindsight, I would’ve just shaved it off in the beginning and called it a day. Sir. Again I appreciate your time and feedback.. when and if I do get this SMP lasered off, I may contact you to possibly do the subtle approach, but with some imperfections to make it look as natural as possible. thanks again
you mighht be the best to do it
Thank you 😊
We’re doing something completely different than other smp artists. With respect, it’s not fair to compare our work that takes 15-20 hours + to complete vs. theirs that takes 6 hours to complete.
Light quality makes a difference in tone and shine and ultimate naturalness. Add in five more variables, a) scalp surface oil, b) oil or product in your hair (if you have any of either), c) sunburn/suntan on skin, d) degree of scarring on the scalp...i.e. an SMP's strip scar can look darker than the surrounding skin on one angle, yet just twist your neck and bamn! - now it looks lighter, (partly due to shine off the scar tissue) e) length of hair and density. f) how old is the SMP? It will fade with a personality of its own. Some skin will appear natural and completely faded..other bits will have blotches. The blotches can still help if you have hair, surprisingly well. Picture the camouflage pattern on Marines combat fatigues. Overall though, the biggest issue will be the hairline and especially the approaches to the temples and the lack of graduation or uniformness of colour.
There are products to take the shine down. Oh....never look at photos unless you are ready to shoot yourself. And yes, that means your SMP will be on Facebook of your friends.
What do you mean friends on Facebook will see bro? So your saying smp doesn’t look good? I have seen joes in person and his looks amazing. This is why they do 4-5 sessions to make sure it looks amazing after the first 2-3 fade more.
Looks like he never had anything done up there lol
You might be missing the point. What would this lighting look like on a guy with no hair loss that shaved 🪒 his head?
They all still look bald in the light or outside in the sun
So are peeps with full heads of hair that would shave 🪒 down as low as we go 🤪
So, if SMP treatment can be seen clearly in the bright sun, it most likely looks exactly like ink, instead of looking like real hair stubble!
@@scalp_logic this is me from another account when I made the comment. I didn't think of it like that but it does make sense now that you mentioned that 🤔
hello i live in the netherlands en i had my first smp session last week , the artist is doin it since 2014 , but i doubt if the follikels arenr too big so it dont look very natural,after seeing more of your videos ik doubt it eve more, the artist i went told me when it heals the dots become smaller cause the skin closes" the wound, is that possible?
Hi! If the dots or impressions already look too big, that’s there for life or until laser removed.
Although there is a slight truth to ink settling and not being as dark, the idea that big dots will shrink is complete marketing bs.
How long do you have to wait in between treatments good hair peeps and how many treatments are you doing for the average customer? Thanks!
Wait time between sessions will vary based on skin health and overall situation, but average minimum wait time is 1-2 weeks.
Average sessions guys need is 2-4 sessions. The most common is 3 sessions.
Hi,
Do you have an online training? I'm from Belgium and traveling cause of covid is impossible.
Hello, yes we do ;) scalplogic.com/results/
This is up close over 1 year healed result ✔️
You should do a flashlight challenge between a real shaved head, and a SMP head. So we also can compare how close or far away they are.
@@TimesComingMedia That’s a good idea.
We would have to find brothers or extremely similar guys and skin tones to compare because skin tones vary so greatly. For example, Latin skin (in general) can have more underlying blue/green tones naturally vs another other tones.
@@scalp_logic That would be amazing. Haven't found any video about that. And it can be just in different lightning, doesn't have to be a flashlight. Hope you can make it :)
I don’t get what I’m looking for under the light? On the hot spot your SMP is gone is that what you are trying to show?
Yes exactly, not blotchy and no inky appearance. And yet, on all of our videos you can clearly see my Subtle Pigmentation in regular/other lighting.
We will soon release a video “the mood ring effect of smp” .... It looks different in different settings.
I live in Miami im outdoors all the time . Beach, sports, etc. Will SMP fade with that amount of sun exposure
Hi. Good question.
Yes. With Subtle P, it will fade away faster. With traditional SMP the ink will discolor and appear muddled.
I can't wait to get this done with you guys! I've done my research even gone to consultations with other providers. The dots they create are huge! I want this done right. I've spoken to Nichole twice now and not once has she rushed or pressured me. Appreciate y'all
How did it go???
What I like about this channel is they are very professional in breaking it down, I have had mine done in London and it looks great
Does it look real
I like how it’s light and maybe not too sharp on the hairline
Thank you 😊
Is your SMP Joe, a lot shorter looking than usual? Usually the artists want you to leave a little stubble but your is a lot shorter
Yes, I shave my hair all the way. (blade shave).
If someone has to grow out a few days to match the darkness of ink, it’s because the ink dots are so much larger and darker than real hair follicles.
Helmet Head...
Exactly, I got my SMP done, and the artist took pics right afterward. He didn't fill things in enough, and things were too light. I sent him pictures with just my bathroom light, and he told me that I shouldn't care about what some random light shows. I went in for a fifth session and he literally didn't do much more ink, and now I am having to go in a sixth time. The only photos that matter, are those taken after it's healed.
That's too many sessions. He doesn't want your head to look like a bowling ball
@@familyfirst7027 , Yea, it already looked like a bowling ball, he missed at least ten areas, you could easily see the areas were way lighter than others. He just never filled things in uniformly. My wife took a picture of my head, and when zoomed in, you could see where the light spots where they didn't have nearly as many ink dots as the fuller areas. That's why I had to go in soo many times, and he would book me, but literally not listen to me, and the fifth time, he literally did not fill in the areas, and was being lazy, so a sixth time, with my wife there finally got him to do the job right. He didn't just ink every part of my head, each time that I went in. My head definitely is not even close to dark enough to look like a bowling ball, that's another issue, he either used too light of ink, or didn't go deep enough for the ink to hold, and a lot would lighten a ton after it healed. His trainer has a youtube account, and I asked him why I would have light spots all over the place, he said because of the artist. He was definitely a newer artist, he told me he's been doing it for two years, yet on his website he says more than five years. He offered me a full refund and laser removal if I chose, but I asked him to just fill in the spots that were too light to make things uniform. A natural haired person doesn't have what looks like balding spots all around their head, that's kinda what it looked like, and I didn't pay $3,200 to look like I have bald spots all around my head. Shoot the rear of my head was so light and not filled in, that it looked like I had a large bald spot on the back of my head. Terrible experience with him, I had to give him a 1 star google review before he returned my texts about fixing the issue. When my wife went with me the sixth time, she pointed to all the light spots, and he said yea, I see them. It's like he could magically see them, when he couldn't deny it in front of my wife, because she can actually point to the spots.
I love the fact that you both seem true to the art. Of course you’re in a business and a business needs to make money to sustain itself but you can just tell that you both love what you do. I dig the fact that guys stress “subtle” because IMO that really should be goal.
We absolutely love what we do :) thank you so much.
It looks good. It looks like somebody who has hair shaved their head to the skin. Which kind of begs the question… Why would someone who has hair shave their head to the skin? Unless they were in Boot Camp. Nevertheless, I am considering having this done.
Haha! I love it. You’re right, it is not the fastest look a man with full head of hair goes to.
Having a frame however compared to clean bald and no frame is a night and day different experience.
Every guy we work on agrees life is more pure, easier, more fluid, when you look and feel good…without anybody noticing. Sounds so simple, but the impact on a single man is huge :)
@@scalp_logic having a frame. That makes total sense. 👍
No one asked me about mine
That’s certainly what potential clients and guys who have smp want to be able to say.
Does it look good under a spotlight?
hi guys..love your work I am new to subtle P, I have just completed a 3rd session on my client. my question, is it normal for when client comes back for around 40% healed looks like it has disappeared? or am I not going deep enough? I am using kwadron 181rl and vertix 201rl.. client has fine hair so wanted to replicate his follicle ..I have told him can take sometimes up to 5 sessions..is this right? I would love to show you somehow to get your professional opinions... I am in New Zealand, not any subtle p providers here, as far as I know.
Hello! Thank you for your comment :)
Well, that is a very technical question to answer, and hard to know anything without pictures or videos.
We’re completing our results in 3-4 sessions on average these days. Some cases require five or more sessions. Equally, some are finished in two sessions.
The size of the impressions are so important to get right. If they are equal in size to a gents remaking hair stubble, you’re on the right track.
@@scalp_logic thank you... so I had him come in for a 5th session.. and literally did about 10 impressions around hairline...he was looking great 2 weeks healed and we were both happy! He will stay in contact and show me the healing over time ... thanks guys ♡
ps..I did send you an email with photos .. you replied with mentoring deets, which is fair enough you are a business...all good!
The thing is, most of the time the part that are filled with ink (top of head) versus the sides that have natural hair always seem to be of different shade. Top of head tends to look more purply (im not saying its plain purple, and no im not talking of the cases that haven't healed yet) versus sides look more greenish. What do you think? Do you agree? Should the artists use a slightly more greenish ink?
That is a great question. A lot to unpack in understanding it all.
Firstly, many guys (def not all) have the greenish/blueish tint genetically, completely aside from any treatments.
Perhaps one of the most difficult maneuvers in creating Subtle P that looks as real as real is the blending!!! It takes hours to do correctly, and that is aside from working the top of the head.
Just as a black and grey artist shades, the same maneuver needs to be completed on the sides of a guys head through stippling (one dot at a time).
This is so hard to complete “properly” so very few artist in the world are willing to do it.
This is a topic we are trying to scream from the top of our lungs, to create SMP realism that is comparable to real hair stubble, it takes many many hours to complete.
I have over 12 years experience, I’m grandfathered in the craft. I beat myself up all the time wanting to be better at blending.
Making the ink on top seamlessly blend into the remaining native hair should be a major consideration when a gentleman is looking to get SMP done.
No colors ever for me. If any colors are used, that only guarantees that color ink will alter in appearance one day. Compared that to a pure black/grey applied at a superficial level, no color change of appearance.
@@scalp_logic i think what he is pointing out, is that where the hair grows the skin itself does has a greenish/blue shade (i.e. the "shave shade").
But the place where no hair is present it has mostly the regular skin color of a person i.e. the same color as the forehead skin.
Now the big question is, if SMP is done and tiny dots are placed; will that regular skin color change to that greenish/blue shade and blend with the "real area?
Notice that the blending here is not about the stubbles getting blended, but about the canvas color getting blended.
@@oeshkoer Understood.
Making the ink impressions match the remaining hair by blending properly is also implying the scalp tone/scalp color will have to match on top as it does on the sides. In other words, to blend as an smp artist should is to ensure the clients tones (if any) are even throughout.
Can you recommend anyone in nyc? Maybe you’ve trained some people here?
might be the best looking SMP ive seen on a white guy
Thank you. That’s Subtle P!
I think I have the best SMP result out of ANY other artist in the world 💯 (Nichole completed my treatment)
Thank you again for sharing your knowledge 🙏
Thank you for watching. This video has helped us explain our process in comparison to SMP results :)
Perfect joe and thank you so much for all your explanations on how todo it right and for all your time invested in helping to understand it 🙏
I do it for people like you and I 😊🙏
@@scalp_logic It's looks great but the thing i still don't like is that under harsh light...It still looks like the person is completely bald..Would be nice to still have that shaved look even under harsh lighting...rather than full bald under lighting.
Where are you goes located and how much.
Hi ! Do you guys have a clinic in London Uk ? I’d do that straight away!!
We wish we did! No, we are just in the U.S.
R u in the uk let me know PLEASE
Unfortunately we are not at the moment…
Quick Question, Do you guys do touch ups? even if the work wasn't done at your place?
I only ask because their will be or have been some real scenarios where someone that does SMP can get into an accident and not be able to work anymore, or the person that did your SMP moved away or even passed away as well, So now you can't go back to him for a touchup and you have to go elsewhere.
That’s a common hesitancy for some gentleman. Of course we can accommodate such a case.
Isn’t there a difference of some lighter ones like yours are done for ppl who bic their head. And I’ve seen places do sorta larger impressions and it seems they use andis clipper? Maybe the larger impression ones it’s assumed u leave hair lil longer? Idk. Jus my take as an observer outside industry. Interested in your perspective
I love the comment and perspective. Certainly some truth to that.
Most every other company/artist create larger impressions. And many consumers prefer the bolder look.
We want people to understand those larger impressions look “inky” (or just a solid fill after a few weeks or months) under the spotlight challenge or any good lighting, like outside. As long as consumers know what they’re getting, we’re happy 😃
Man your smp is too light you still look bald af lol
SMP too light vs. Inky head
I know my choice. The difference is a fine line of accepting still bald, or knowing someone is staring at your off look.
Joe you look exactly how a person who shaves their head should look.....af
That's exactly how it should look dude, natural looking