I got hit with this comment I've never had a collector and saved up for months so I was able to get this upcoming collector makes me feel like all my hard work was thrown off 💀
Dude I lost hope of natalia when moonton wanted to turn a (squishy, weak to cc). Hero *Natlia* into a jungler?!?!? who's dumb idea was that? And ult into a charged skill??? Moonton acts like natlia is a perfect hero and doesn't have any counters. Ohh wait Any support - Rafaela CC- Tanky line up. - Wind of nature- Immortality - Etc And now they nerfed a hero that they ruined themselves Congratulations moonton you ruined a favored hero by many players. I guess your gonna lose money cause you nerfed a "marketable" hero huh
@@shrmp5055 mm's dont even have the chance to use wind chant since one enhanced basic atk from her will make their hp go to 30% same applies for mages and she can also easily escape also counters most mm's some fighters and a bunch of assasins and she has 2 dashes also fast unlimited regen of invisibility tbh its not that hard just go in the bush and wait if someone comes near enough for the range just one shot them fr malding because he cant kill squishy heroes with one attack 🗿
@@penguin1757 That is all literally late game, which is exactly what she is a late game hero 💀 Her damage is underwhelming until mid game and all of the things he stated counters her easily
Natalia is basically dead then Her main point was invisibility Previously made her permanent visibility to detectable after 2s now it's .3s Even aamon has better invincibility than her
Yep Lesley can stay much longer invisible then Natalia and can spam it too. Basically every hero with invisible is now better than Natalia's. Now you just active the Natalia passive just to get movement speed nothing else can be done other than that.
I think in my observation that moonton wanted to nerf natalia so bad is because majority of the players still use her as a roamer than a jungler. It’s really rare to see jungler Natalia recently since her new buff (more dmg to creeps)
i have been spamming jungle natalia since her buff recently, been from mythic 3 to mythic 1 so fast, but not always i pick her bcs she keeps getting banned
Roamer natalia was the best thing you could play though. Jungle natalia is simply not as good as other junglers. They are just destroying the hero at this point. Whats the point of invisibility if the enemy sees you as soon as you approach them.
@@stefanobesliu6458 Ye... And nat has so many counters.. Like Rafa Phoveus and Selena... Or just having a tanky line up It's gonna be hard to make natlia jungle work when all it takes is 1 skill shot while your invisible and your gonna be destroyed by the enemy. Natlia wasn't really made for objectives.. And they had to ruin her ult by turning it into a changed skill. I would've been fine with a damage nerf.. But they just ruined a hero Bye bye Natlia you were one of my favorite roamer in my hero pool You were a nice pick in solo q because you can't trust your allies to do good in their lane. Rip Natalia you will be missed
Yeah just keep nerfing natalia and keep buffing the mm, seems right. I honestly hate it so much that if the enemy picks wanwan or moskov, its a guaranteed carry late game. And now natalia, the only one who'd have a chance against them is nerfed. I'm switching to pokemon unite for now, enough of this bs
Yeah I mean Nata was totally okay she has lots of counters and with this meta is not that common to see her being picked, now she's being turned into an old vexana.
Chou: um can I use my nunchaks? Natalia: "Why am I here just to suffer" Gusion: "Was i good? Lesley: "A sniper should treat her guns like swinging sticks"
REST IN PEACE NATALIA.. ✌️ You were and always will be one of my favorite roamers. I can't tell you how many times I got tired of tanking for my Allies.. But you were my relief.. A roamer that can carry the game?? Ohh the way you 2 shot marksmans When we split push turrets like there was no tommorow My Hero pool will never be the same without you.. Good bye. you will forever be missed
Actually she' ll be worse than useless if they adjusts her like this, she wont two shot mm, shell die, she wont escape, she have much longer ult🤣😂maybe one of the developer have nataphobia
Moontoon : rework natalia ult Also moontoon : massive nerf. Moontoon just ruined everything 😌 I don't mind if nata have many counter . But don't ruined her invisibility
As a tank main, i don't think natalia deserves any nerf because there are already some counter to natalia like rafaela skill 1, hylos skill 2, even aldous ult.
If they're gonna make natalia easy to detect then they should remove the warning sign when she is nearby since you can now see her if she gets close. Camouflage state of Lesley or Aamon are now better than invisibility if they ruined Natalia like this.
I agree.. i feel like this nerf on her invisibility is ruining her... Before she can even attack the enemies they will surely kill her first, it's not like the enemies can't escape her the way she is now
Honestly, I think for Julian, reducing his hp and ho growth would be more effective, as he can snowball way too easily. The increased cd of his skills is a good solution too, however his skills can already be countered by items
What about this Cooldown of normal skill is still 5 sec But add cooldown for enhanced skill like for 15 - 20 sec In that duration we still can use all normal skill
Moonton, just delete nata from the game if you gonna do her dirty like this, she won't be able to be a roamer, gold laner, even jungler now, as a nata main this nerf is making me furious
Yeah man I hate this update too, why target Natalia like that she already has many counters and it's not like she is the most overpowered . Just hate this
Nat main here was planning to increase my matches to 2.5k I'm at 2k matches but after seeing this I just lost the urge to continue, goodluck to all Natalia hardcore players out there this nerf is just straight up bad hope moonton realize this.
Nata main here too. Remember back then when her invisibility won't even alert the enemy no matter how close you were XD. Easy jungle buff steals. Was still able to do that sometimes in Live server but with this nerf? Nahh Moontoon just spoiling the fun for us. If this goes on, Moontoon you just lost a player :)
Can’t they keep Nat’s skills more simpler with proper invisibility? Just the old one with pink smoke (if anyone remembers) And for Aldous, I think they should adjust and lower his physical defense instead of hp, he is a late game fighter and I completely agrees with his damage but he gets too much tanky at the same time.
I mean aldous is pretty balanced to me, the reason is that if he dies 2-3 times in early game he won't have enough stacks to kill people, then the enemies get stronger and you lose the game
I agree with Natalia's old smoke effects.. That was the only thing kept her skins different from each other. Right now, almost all of her skins has the same skill effects.. especially on smoke.
Right? She was already bad after her "revamp". Now she's just getting worse. She doesn't provide enough to a team compared to other heroes, she's already so easy to counter and outplay, they are ruining her.
As Natalia Main, Gusion is supposed to be nerf not natalia. This Goddamn update made me so sad!!!!!! You're right, Natalia is now easy to counter even nana can kill her easily.
Nah , She not even test the new embelm talent yet like seasoned hunter (can deal 20% DMG for lord and turtle) to steal buffs in early game or kill turtle and lord more faster than Helcurt . Dont jump conclusion before you think its really bad or not , just wait september and test new emblem talents what fits her
Every hero has its speciality and Natalia excelled in roaming. Moonton is killing the excitement and fun of this game which keeps players hooked by constantly nerfing and adjusting heroes.
ngl, I was really glad that Nata's play style is changed from roamer to jungle. It's so annoying to encounter a Nata with dire hit and execute, especially if you're a squishy mage or mm. However, this nerf is just not it. Nata as a jungler is pretty slow, so I expected Moonton to give Nata some buffs regarding her ability to jungle fast. But, they nerfed her so badly. It's so funny that one of the first heroes to be able to go invisible is now overshadowed (pun not intended) by other heroes. Like wtf, they don't need to nerf her passive that badly.
Even with the buff she received to deal more damage to creeps people still used her as a roamer is just Nata is not that good for being jungle. She's way better as a roamer this nerf's really unnecessary.
Hoooly shit, the ability to change your talents in draft is such a good change. Like, the ability to build according to the team comp or the enemies' comp is such a nice improvement.
A better nerf for faramis 1st skill is: His 1st skill can't pull enemies through a wall while still keeping the distance range. It's weird to make his 1st skill so short while he is supposed to be a mage.
I think that's enough for Faramis. Perhaps giving him Tank build will keep you alive from engaging for first skill! I am satisfied for faramis right now. 🙂❣️
Short pulling and stun is quite a good thing for him, isn't that fair? Shortened the range of pulling effect and giving him 0.5 sec (I don't know exactly) stun! It's great!
It's nice to see chou having a recall animation but after all the nerfs he receive and after what they did with his skins with the revamp especially the muah thai I have 1238 match with him but I no longer use him and I havent played mobile legends that much anymore cause of how hard it is to use him now
ughh there's so many heroes that i want like the new hero joy and hanabi cause i recently heard that she's getting a revamp and i recently bought lesley cause she also have a revamp 😭😭
They've literally killed everything that made Natalia a good hero. I'm speechless. Please fire whoever stands behind these changes and hire an actual pro player, because these tweaks are getting none other than ridiculous.
I'm a natalia main and I am not happy of this nerf. First they make it hard for natalia's SS to cast, Now they make it hard for natalia to ambush? Are they bullying my girl? It took one year for natalia to be noticed and this is the the attention they gave to her? Natalia's been invisible for to long and they overdid it so much that natalia is not natalia anymore
Rip natalia. She will become forgotten again. Hoyoverse! Make the game experience of lefthanded players better. Make us able to exchange the position of the direction buttons and the skill buttons. Being a lefthanded, using a left thumb on skill button is 50 percent better than using right thumb. Make it happen montoon.
For Natalia , I think there's a revamp coming. We've seen something similar happen with Akai . He seemed to be nerfed hard but it ended with him becoming meta , so there's still hope for Natalia 🙃
Nah.. This is just a dumb move by moonton.. Nat already has so many hard counters. And I hate the fact that they changed natlias ult into a charged skill. It's so dumb But I guess she was getting really annoying.
@@shrmp5055 so does Fanny and she still remains a permaban, they went overboard with it but it doesn't mean Natalia isn't currently too good in meta, which she is
No one needs a nerf if people knew how to play properly instead of crying. Natalia was easy to counter if you stun her and kill her and watch the map. Lol ppl just suck man. I’m using carmilla to roam
They should increase Aamon's durability amd survivability and add a feature which reduces his skills' cooldown (just like Karina's) since it means he has to approach and chase down enemies more frequently to maximize his passive.
This is a huge deal for Natalia players, I love her play style as a stealth and fast assassin.....but now the stealth is like closing my eyes and saying yeah no one can see me and for ultimate cooldown I don't have words to describe...
At this point, camouflage skills are now better than Nat's invisibility. I mean with camouflage skills you can miss enemies if you don't pay much attention while Nat's new "not-so-invisible" skill with all the warning marks and short duration of invisibility, she's just basically revealing her location rather than actually hiding. This the 2nd time they used a revamp as an excuse to nerf her hard
@@zackzoom8779 she doesn't even need to be countered if this nerf becomes official cause she's most likely be just forgotten. Poor Natalia, guess this is her price to pay from bullying all those gold lanes 🗿
Julian's 10sec cd is a huge nerf IMO for his jungling capabilities. It's already a struggle for him to jungle during level 1-3 with the 7sec, what more if it's already 10sec? For sure he'll have a hard time clearing the camps especially without the help of the roamer.
@@primrdialbeastgaming9537 Use Concentrated Energy and Oracle and it's still hard for them to defeat you. Hell, since he has natura spell vamp, throw Bloodlust Axe on him too, along with some hard hitting magic items.
They keep killing julian, massacring johnson even more and let's not talk about the killer nerf to natalia her invisibility now is a useless thing now lol
I hope they cancel the adjustment in Faramis of lower range in his first skill even though it will catch enemies automatically but still its lot better now .
What the *FUCK* did natalia even do to get such a massive nerf after a massive nerf after a massive nerf. Not many people even played her before. Hasnn't even gotten an epic skin for a hero released in season 2 as compared to a gussion released around the 12th season. Hell even miya had legend and epic skin. The fuck wrong with you moonton.
Now with this new nerf on natalia,she will not stand a chance again any hero in late game,like for serously? her passive ?which was main source of her role as assasin ,well all i can say is that ''its been fun having time together with you natalia,i hope one day you will rise again in the land of dawn ,i will wait for that moment..so until then GOODBYE🤧🤧🤧".
before, natalia's invinsibility is so long that you cant even see her in rank matches.. now its so fast that we'll be seeing her almost immediately in any matches 🤷
It's hard to counter her, she can 1 hit combo mm and assassin even they have antique cuirass. Can't even use wind chant because of the silence. My Chou can't even fight back even with antique and immortality. But I think the nerf is too much.
@@Alex-zr7st I love using her to epic and half legend, but in mythic ranked I uncommonly use her now because of many people will surprisingly "think" to counter her. So it's a NO. You can counter her if you know how to do it.
The nerf on Natalia is a little too much, if they proceed with that nerf it would ruin the whole purpose of Natalia, she wouldn't be able to give vision properly anymore, she wouldn't be able to chase enemies anymore... If she gets visible too soon along with the silence nerf, she would easily get burst down by heroes like Eudora before she even has the chance to assassinate her.
I like the buff on Aamon, all buffs so far have been motivations for users to use his Basic attacks, which he shines in using when targetting enemies with your teammates.
Hopefully natalia Nerf gets canceled that's just too much she gonna be useless and she can only jg and be effective now so with another nerf it's gonna be so hard
Clint is OP in gold lane , clint outranges almost all the marksmen with his passive and deals a crazy amount of Damage with his first skill so ,why hard nerf an mm like moskov ?
@@nutFLlX I'm in mythic 1 bruv... And cliint's hella strong , once you have endless and BOD / Malefic... He melts squishies ... And I'm a moskov main...when against clint he'll just chip your hp from afar and freeze the minions so you don't get any gold from it..
Chou idle animation should be the push up and one hand push and one finger push or perhaps no hands push up they should change the last pose of push up to a kick or to a jojo reference something that is chou like personality.
Ikr, I really learned it in a hard way. Because one time when I spotted a MM pushing minions, I tried attacking her but I forget to look on the map that Eudora is missing. So I attacked the mm, but Eudora stunned and killed me. That made me realize that it was a bait 🗿.
Natalia easy target for flameshot now. Becomes the masterbaiter without passive. Easy to pick off if you a mage since 1st skill needs to hit to get 2nd charge. There goes my main.
I'm pretty sure the developer might've went against a nata player on a regular match and got wrecked really badly with taunts adding the final blow from the player hence taking the petty revenge on her.
What? Is moneyton so salty because Nat always feeds on its faves? Lol. But seriously tho, as Nat main (2k matches), just remove her from the game if they're just going to ruin her again and again (best version of Nat is still the scratchy one). I mean does moneyton know the word "balanced"? Wtf is that 0.3s reveal bs? How does moneyton define invisible? Lol
As a Natalia user when playing an assassin, this is so crap. Moonton always consider the pick in the Legend above ranks and wasn't considering the lower ranks when buffing and nerfing.
*After Nerfing Natalia 69 times this year*
Moonton: So we'll be releasing a Natalia Collector's Skin.
Wish they remove the Nerf then release the skin even non players will try to get that then
Well fuck montoon
I got hit with this comment I've never had a collector and saved up for months so I was able to get this upcoming collector makes me feel like all my hard work was thrown off 💀
And then they wonder why the skin wont sell well. Moonton logic.
Just bring back the old Natalia if they're gonna do her like this, even for a MM/Mage main like me aka a Natalia hater thinks this is so dirty for her
I think they should bring back prime Natalia, but nerf her 2nd skill by making it chance based to immune basic attacks
@@zackzoom8779 no, her immunity on basic attacks is her special skill
Rest in peace natlia
They're nerfing her because they're nerfing Beatrix, they're afraid Beatrix might become food for her.
@@its_ed beatrix Isn't the only mm in the game. And also beatrix nerf Isn't that massive like natalia's. Bea will be still usable
1:28 I'm a natalia hater but that change is too much bro
Press F to pay respect for nata mains😭
Dude I lost hope of natalia when moonton wanted to turn a (squishy, weak to cc). Hero *Natlia* into a jungler?!?!? who's dumb idea was that?
And ult into a charged skill???
Moonton acts like natlia is a perfect hero and doesn't have any counters.
Ohh wait
Any support - Rafaela
CC-
Tanky line up. -
Wind of nature-
Immortality -
Etc
And now they nerfed a hero that they ruined themselves
Congratulations moonton you ruined a favored hero by many players.
I guess your gonna lose money cause you nerfed a "marketable" hero huh
@@shrmp5055 mm's dont even have the chance to use wind chant since one enhanced basic atk from her will make their hp go to 30% same applies for mages and she can also easily escape also counters most mm's some fighters and a bunch of assasins and she has 2 dashes also fast unlimited regen of invisibility tbh its not that hard just go in the bush and wait if someone comes near enough for the range just one shot them fr malding because he cant kill squishy heroes with one attack 🗿
@@penguin1757 That is all literally late game, which is exactly what she is a late game hero 💀
Her damage is underwhelming until mid game and all of the things he stated counters her easily
9.8k mtch.71 win rate....🤧
@@leisangthemyakaiba2199 Cap
Natalia is basically dead then
Her main point was invisibility
Previously made her permanent visibility to detectable after 2s now it's .3s
Even aamon has better invincibility than her
Yep Lesley can stay much longer invisible then Natalia and can spam it too. Basically every hero with invisible is now better than Natalia's. Now you just active the Natalia passive just to get movement speed nothing else can be done other than that.
I mean, what's the point of invisibility when she can be seen while she approaches towards enemy? So baseless.
her name is not natalia its Natalie hhahaha wft moonntoon.
@@mellifluous695 her invisibility just became a useless conceal
@@mellifluous695 FOR REAL..Moontoon 👎👎👎
I think in my observation that moonton wanted to nerf natalia so bad is because majority of the players still use her as a roamer than a jungler. It’s really rare to see jungler Natalia recently since her new buff (more dmg to creeps)
i have been spamming jungle natalia since her buff recently, been from mythic 3 to mythic 1 so fast, but not always i pick her bcs she keeps getting banned
Because she is a terrible jungler
Roamer natalia was the best thing you could play though. Jungle natalia is simply not as good as other junglers. They are just destroying the hero at this point. Whats the point of invisibility if the enemy sees you as soon as you approach them.
@@stefanobesliu6458 Ye... And nat has so many counters.. Like Rafa Phoveus and Selena... Or just having a tanky line up
It's gonna be hard to make natlia jungle work when all it takes is 1 skill shot while your invisible and your gonna be destroyed by the enemy.
Natlia wasn't really made for objectives..
And they had to ruin her ult by turning it into a changed skill.
I would've been fine with a damage nerf.. But they just ruined a hero
Bye bye Natlia you were one of my favorite roamer in my hero pool
You were a nice pick in solo q because you can't trust your allies to do good in their lane.
Rip Natalia you will be missed
@@shrmp5055 I stopped using her the moment they changed her ult
If montoon wants to keep nerfing Natalia, then I think they should just remove her from the game....I feel pity for Natalia and her mains.. 😭
frfr i have zero matches with her but what moonton is doing to her is so dirty and unnecessary like WHY💀
@@KYSNYAN yeah.... 😭
Anyone who uses natalia and saber should consider deleting ml
@@E_E69 why? because you think they’re braindead heroes? (i agree with saber) but you don’t get to say this when you’re most likely a mm user💀
Wow are we just gonna ignore Nana??? Like they doing her dirty too!!!
Yeah just keep nerfing natalia and keep buffing the mm, seems right. I honestly hate it so much that if the enemy picks wanwan or moskov, its a guaranteed carry late game. And now natalia, the only one who'd have a chance against them is nerfed. I'm switching to pokemon unite for now, enough of this bs
Natalia nerf: the ult charge is now only 1
Play wild rift
Yeah I mean Nata was totally okay she has lots of counters and with this meta is not that common to see her being picked, now she's being turned into an old vexana.
Chou: um can I use my nunchaks?
Natalia: "Why am I here just to suffer"
Gusion: "Was i good?
Lesley: "A sniper should treat her guns like swinging sticks"
They might as well remove natalia from the game lmao they remove her invisibility, silence and burst. Now she's a walking layla with zero range.
They should bring back prime Natalia without silence. Because at this point moonton's just at lost on how to balance her
Chou recalling on a dead body def makes him more sus now + toxic (with the recall and emote ofc)
thx for the idea daddy
Heheh...
Chou be tea bagging the dead bodies-
Thx for the idea ma boy 😏
*GASP*
*Oh* *My* *God*
riip
REST IN PEACE NATALIA.. ✌️
You were and always will be one of my favorite roamers.
I can't tell you how many times I got tired of tanking for my Allies..
But you were my relief.. A roamer that can carry the game??
Ohh the way you 2 shot marksmans
When we split push turrets like there was no tommorow
My Hero pool will never be the same without you..
Good bye. you will forever be missed
🥹 i feel you
Actually she' ll be worse than useless if they adjusts her like this, she wont two shot mm, shell die, she wont escape, she have much longer ult🤣😂maybe one of the developer have nataphobia
😭😭😭Man I know how u feel .... I love Natalia she was my first purchase and recently I got her skin after playing for so long and now this ...
😭😭She my main. I feel you bruuuhh and that's how I'm feeling. Moonton got shitty nerfs and buffs. Better delete Mlbb
Same RIP My Natalia 😭😭😭😭😭
I was waiting for a Natalie buff my whole life and there you go!
Moontoon : rework natalia ult
Also moontoon : massive nerf.
Moontoon just ruined everything 😌
I don't mind if nata have many counter . But don't ruined her invisibility
Yeah man that's the main point...it was her unique signature... Why mess it up.
it's basically her Skill too that's why she was build for this but mooton hayzz ruined her
That Lesley transition tho 💀😭 got me good
Same
Same lol
Yeah 0:52🤣
😭😭
If Natalia's massive nerf will proceed, then she will be out of the meta for good. TBH, Moonton sucks at giving nerfs and buffs.
no she will be out of the game for good LOL
bitch will be a forgotten hero
I'm a nata main,and after seeing this,i just gave up on her 😂
Yep, even though I hate natalia (since im a mm main) this nerf is so bad and makes her kinda useless
As a tank main, i don't think natalia deserves any nerf because there are already some counter to natalia like rafaela skill 1, hylos skill 2, even aldous ult.
If they're gonna make natalia easy to detect then they should remove the warning sign when she is nearby since you can now see her if she gets close. Camouflage state of Lesley or Aamon are now better than invisibility if they ruined Natalia like this.
Exactly
agreed i also just started liking n using her
I agree.. i feel like this nerf on her invisibility is ruining her... Before she can even attack the enemies they will surely kill her first, it's not like the enemies can't escape her the way she is now
Honestly, I think for Julian, reducing his hp and ho growth would be more effective, as he can snowball way too easily. The increased cd of his skills is a good solution too, however his skills can already be countered by items
It's fine when the new glowing wand comes
This 10sec CD is a joke
I hope they don't nerf Julians CD again because he can't do anything without his skills
What about this
Cooldown of normal skill is still 5 sec
But add cooldown for enhanced skill like for 15 - 20 sec
In that duration we still can use all normal skill
Julian main cope 💀
Moonton, just delete nata from the game if you gonna do her dirty like this, she won't be able to be a roamer, gold laner, even jungler now, as a nata main this nerf is making me furious
Yeah man I hate this update too, why target Natalia like that she already has many counters and it's not like she is the most overpowered . Just hate this
I have always hated Natalia with a burning passion even before her revamp but that's just too much.
It is..
Nata was very easy to counter too
Thank you for supporting Natalia
Nat main here was planning to increase my matches to 2.5k I'm at 2k matches but after seeing this I just lost the urge to continue, goodluck to all Natalia hardcore players out there this nerf is just straight up bad hope moonton realize this.
I agree so much. I am nata main and this is not close to fair for her :(((
Just play and learn other roamers. I'm a Natalie main, but hate facing her when im against
@@Adroit_-.- lmao exactly. Being a nata main I enjoy hunting down my foods(mm/mage) but likewise.
Nata main here too. Remember back then when her invisibility won't even alert the enemy no matter how close you were XD. Easy jungle buff steals. Was still able to do that sometimes in Live server but with this nerf? Nahh Moontoon just spoiling the fun for us. If this goes on, Moontoon you just lost a player :)
Dont worry man omg why everyone so worried its on test, they will cancle it chill dont worry
Can’t they keep Nat’s skills more simpler with proper invisibility? Just the old one with pink smoke (if anyone remembers)
And for Aldous, I think they should adjust and lower his physical defense instead of hp, he is a late game fighter and I completely agrees with his damage but he gets too much tanky at the same time.
I mean aldous is pretty balanced to me, the reason is that if he dies 2-3 times in early game he won't have enough stacks to kill people, then the enemies get stronger and you lose the game
I remember old Natalia wish that invisibility was still applicable
The 2nd skill pink smoke right yeah good old days
I agree with Natalia's old smoke effects.. That was the only thing kept her skins different from each other. Right now, almost all of her skins has the same skill effects.. especially on smoke.
@@qiangwang8672 just tell your mage/mid ally to stop killing the minions so you can get 100 stacks under 3 min
Damn the nerf on Natalia gonna hit her sooo hard like its almost like the devs wanna remove her from the game.
Right? She was already bad after her "revamp". Now she's just getting worse. She doesn't provide enough to a team compared to other heroes, she's already so easy to counter and outplay, they are ruining her.
I agree so much. I am nata main and this is not close to fair for her :(((
As Natalia Main, Gusion is supposed to be nerf not natalia. This Goddamn update made me so sad!!!!!! You're right, Natalia is now easy to counter even nana can kill her easily.
Nah , She not even test the new embelm talent yet like seasoned hunter (can deal 20% DMG for lord and turtle) to steal buffs in early game or kill turtle and lord more faster than Helcurt . Dont jump conclusion before you think its really bad or not , just wait september and test new emblem talents what fits her
I remember when she had 2 second silence
Every hero has its speciality and Natalia excelled in roaming. Moonton is killing the excitement and fun of this game which keeps players hooked by constantly nerfing and adjusting heroes.
fr
Then they make a hero that's blatantly OP so that they can get money from skins then nerf the heck out of that hero
@@Gazuretine true 😭
@@Gazuretine just look at fanny moonton buff fanny last season because of her aspirant skin and NERF because the skin event has ended
Holy crap, the 2 finger Bruce Lee push-up, I’m so glad they added it in.
ngl, I was really glad that Nata's play style is changed from roamer to jungle. It's so annoying to encounter a Nata with dire hit and execute, especially if you're a squishy mage or mm. However, this nerf is just not it. Nata as a jungler is pretty slow, so I expected Moonton to give Nata some buffs regarding her ability to jungle fast. But, they nerfed her so badly. It's so funny that one of the first heroes to be able to go invisible is now overshadowed (pun not intended) by other heroes. Like wtf, they don't need to nerf her passive that badly.
Even with the buff she received to deal more damage to creeps people still used her as a roamer is just Nata is not that good for being jungle. She's way better as a roamer this nerf's really unnecessary.
Hoooly shit, the ability to change your talents in draft is such a good change. Like, the ability to build according to the team comp or the enemies' comp is such a nice improvement.
I'm trying to be excited about the new talent system...
But I just can't get over the natalia Nerf..
Same goes to the enemy😉theyll adjust it according to your team composition too, so nothing so fun
lol players will be crying after they see this adjust
@@AngeloDutullo Did LoL have this feature just askin?
@@justaperson7209 yep, and they claim it as only their's haha
The Natalia nerf reminds me of the helcurt nerf that removed the silence effect from his teleport, kinda ruining his ability as a mage killer
A better nerf for faramis 1st skill is:
His 1st skill can't pull enemies through a wall while still keeping the distance range.
It's weird to make his 1st skill so short while he is supposed to be a mage.
The devs are crazy
He's more of a support than a mage to be fair. Faramis is all about positioning.
I think that's enough for Faramis. Perhaps giving him Tank build will keep you alive from engaging for first skill! I am satisfied for faramis right now. 🙂❣️
Short pulling and stun is quite a good thing for him, isn't that fair? Shortened the range of pulling effect and giving him 0.5 sec (I don't know exactly) stun! It's great!
@@ineedcoffeefufu you forget enemy can only do one dash to escape and the cooldown of First skill is too long
Elgin: Do you like the new recall?
Chou Freestylers: Hehe boy
Me: I can smell that Chou will get a Collector Skin soon
Moonton really said :
"if you're not playing jungle Natalia, then you're not gonna be playing her at all"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Might as well remove Nat’s invisibility. 🤣 Even remove her from the game Moontoon. 🤣
As Natalia Main, i am so sad to know about this update. 🥺
It's nice to see chou having a recall animation but after all the nerfs he receive and after what they did with his skins with the revamp especially the muah thai I have 1238 match with him but I no longer use him and I havent played mobile legends that much anymore cause of how hard it is to use him now
Dude wdym by how hard to use he's actually quite easy to use though 😭 and he's so broken
Chou tank is good now
@@infamousjockey3868 you don’t know what “broken” means😭
@@meitei8201 ..ever since his release actually.
@@KYSNYAN no I meant by broken as in not balanced
Moonton never fails to disappoint ❤️
xD the heart emoji looks hilarious ❤
ughh there's so many heroes that i want like the new hero joy and hanabi cause i recently heard that she's getting a revamp and i recently bought lesley cause she also have a revamp 😭😭
They've literally killed everything that made Natalia a good hero. I'm speechless. Please fire whoever stands behind these changes and hire an actual pro player, because these tweaks are getting none other than ridiculous.
They should revert the last damage nerf on julian since they nerf his CD 😒
I'm a natalia main and I am not happy of this nerf. First they make it hard for natalia's SS to cast, Now they make it hard for natalia to ambush?
Are they bullying my girl? It took one year for natalia to be noticed and this is the the attention they gave to her?
Natalia's been invisible for to long and they overdid it so much that natalia is not natalia anymore
natalia already balanced enough if the enemies last long enough for late game she becomes useless idk why the heavy nerf really
I quit dude moonton ruined my favorite hero...
the Natalia nerf is ridiculous the invisibility is just gonna be a speed up if this goes on
Bro, the fact that you would be able to customize your talents while waiting in Draft Pick is actually a game changer in my opinion.
Isn't that always a thing? Not on rank mode but I think I saw one from a tourney or something
Rip natalia. She will become forgotten again. Hoyoverse! Make the game experience of lefthanded players better. Make us able to exchange the position of the direction buttons and the skill buttons. Being a lefthanded, using a left thumb on skill button is 50 percent better than using right thumb. Make it happen montoon.
just today i was thinking about left hand right hand issue
moon toon should bring in the necessary changes
For Natalia , I think there's a revamp coming. We've seen something similar happen with Akai . He seemed to be nerfed hard but it ended with him becoming meta , so there's still hope for Natalia 🙃
Natalia is currently meta, tho
@@fireemblem5340 he's right
@@fireemblem5340 meta how? She sucks
Nah.. This is just a dumb move by moonton..
Nat already has so many hard counters.
And I hate the fact that they changed natlias ult into a charged skill.
It's so dumb
But I guess she was getting really annoying.
@@shrmp5055 so does Fanny and she still remains a permaban, they went overboard with it but it doesn't mean Natalia isn't currently too good in meta, which she is
Too much nerf to Natalia ... Hahaha useless invisible
First they change Natalia's ulti now they nerf her invisibility and her silent they literally nerf her to he ground Great Developers 🤩
No one needs a nerf if people knew how to play properly instead of crying. Natalia was easy to counter if you stun her and kill her and watch the map. Lol ppl just suck man. I’m using carmilla to roam
They should increase Aamon's durability amd survivability and add a feature which reduces his skills' cooldown (just like Karina's) since it means he has to approach and chase down enemies more frequently to maximize his passive.
read his passive
@@delusionofillusion473 he probably mean more stronger cooldown reduction per basic and skill
Wel goodbye Natalia, tq for being my main hero👋🏻
This is a huge deal for Natalia players, I love her play style as a stealth and fast assassin.....but now the stealth is like closing my eyes and saying yeah no one can see me and for ultimate cooldown I don't have words to describe...
Moonton: Nerfed chou to limit his ult distance.
Me: How we can do freestyle's?
Moonton: Here's chou animation recall.
Just bring back the Old Natalia!! Bring back her old ultimate, red smoke Bomb, and her 2 seconds silence effect
At this point, camouflage skills are now better than Nat's invisibility. I mean with camouflage skills you can miss enemies if you don't pay much attention while Nat's new "not-so-invisible" skill with all the warning marks and short duration of invisibility, she's just basically revealing her location rather than actually hiding.
This the 2nd time they used a revamp as an excuse to nerf her hard
She's going to be countered hard when glowing wand buff arrives. Since glowing wand disables her invisibility
@@zackzoom8779 she doesn't even need to be countered if this nerf becomes official cause she's most likely be just forgotten. Poor Natalia, guess this is her price to pay from bullying all those gold lanes 🗿
Julian's 10sec cd is a huge nerf IMO for his jungling capabilities. It's already a struggle for him to jungle during level 1-3 with the 7sec, what more if it's already 10sec? For sure he'll have a hard time clearing the camps especially without the help of the roamer.
The nerf on julian is a bit overkill,
I'm not saying julian is balance, I'm just saying moonton needs to nerf his damage not his cd.
They should bring back his lifesteal I thing so that he can survive after doing combo
@@primrdialbeastgaming9537 Use Concentrated Energy and Oracle and it's still hard for them to defeat you. Hell, since he has natura spell vamp, throw Bloodlust Axe on him too, along with some hard hitting magic items.
@@JinTakahashiTensai when the new talent comes out,I will try using battle frenzy and bloodlust on julian
They keep killing julian, massacring johnson even more and let's not talk about the killer nerf to natalia her invisibility now is a useless thing now lol
I hope they cancel the adjustment in Faramis of lower range in his first skill even though it will catch enemies automatically but still its lot better now .
What the *FUCK* did natalia even do to get such a massive nerf after a massive nerf after a massive nerf.
Not many people even played her before. Hasnn't even gotten an epic skin for a hero released in season 2 as compared to a gussion released around the 12th season. Hell even miya had legend and epic skin.
The fuck wrong with you moonton.
Chou players will love spamming that recall animation while doing ultimate 😏
Now with this new nerf on natalia,she will not stand a chance again any hero in late game,like for serously? her passive ?which was main source of her role as assasin ,well all i can say is that ''its been fun having time together with you natalia,i hope one day you will rise again in the land of dawn ,i will wait for that moment..so until then GOODBYE🤧🤧🤧".
before, natalia's invinsibility is so long that you cant even see her in rank matches.. now its so fast that we'll be seeing her almost immediately in any matches 🤷
lmao so true 😂
You mean her invisibility is so poor you won't see her at all cause she's garbage now
Lol i miss the old nat, and invi has no duration but if you stay out of bush too long u lose it
@@luquiten ye and that useless ult that barely dealt any damage.
Nah, we won't see her anytime on ranked games after this nerf, if you know what I mean
Whats the point of Nata’s invisibility if it only takes 0.3 seconds to detect her? It’s basically just an inferior version of Lesley’s 1st skill now
Natalia is already fairly used/countered, the nerf is kind of unneeded.💀
It's hard to counter her, she can 1 hit combo mm and assassin even they have antique cuirass. Can't even use wind chant because of the silence. My Chou can't even fight back even with antique and immortality. But I think the nerf is too much.
@@Alex-zr7st just use rafaela, diggie, hylos.
@@Alex-zr7st I love using her to epic and half legend, but in mythic ranked I uncommonly use her now because of many people will surprisingly "think" to counter her. So it's a NO. You can counter her if you know how to do it.
@@Alex-zr7st you on epic rank
@@Alex-zr7st Pffftt there's a lot of heroes that can counter her.
The nerf on Natalia is a little too much, if they proceed with that nerf it would ruin the whole purpose of Natalia, she wouldn't be able to give vision properly anymore, she wouldn't be able to chase enemies anymore... If she gets visible too soon along with the silence nerf, she would easily get burst down by heroes like Eudora before she even has the chance to assassinate her.
I like the buff on Aamon, all buffs so far have been motivations for users to use his Basic attacks, which he shines in using when targetting enemies with your teammates.
Yes I recently got a Savage with him using a build based on basic attacks
I dont know if moonton wants to balance the heroes or just straight up make everyone overpowered
The second option is the best, if everyone are overpowered then no one is
Hopefully natalia Nerf gets canceled that's just too much she gonna be useless and she can only jg and be effective now so with another nerf it's gonna be so hard
Too be honesty just turn it back into the old natlia..
I would've been perfectly fine with a damage nerf or lower slow..
Imagine doing that chou recall on alu dead body😳.....✨NEW MEME✨
Clint is OP in gold lane , clint outranges almost all the marksmen with his passive and deals a crazy amount of Damage with his first skill so ,why hard nerf an mm like moskov ?
clint is not op wtf 💀 y'all just be saying anything...
@@asdzxcx3686 In right hands it is down right OP bruv , tf you on about?
@@enriquejoygomes In lower rank matches yes, he's not as good as moskov anywhere in high rank
@@nutFLlX I'm in mythic 1 bruv... And cliint's hella strong , once you have endless and BOD / Malefic... He melts squishies ... And I'm a moskov main...when against clint he'll just chip your hp from afar and freeze the minions so you don't get any gold from it..
And about moskov in higher rank , he's almost considered troll in 5queue/Glory ... 😂
If these nerfs push through, I might finally be able to use Hanzo against Natalia. Omg this is big
Just reduce Julian’s durability. Leave his CD alone. He becomes useless with this excessively high CD.
its only early game its still 7 seconds at late game i kinda agree and not with the cd since he relies on enchance skills
@@Jasuya Even one second in ML is too long. It’s a matter of life and death.
Me wondering how my samsung j7 will handle this updates and how much will it lag...lol sed lyf me.
Natalia: *got nerfed last update
Moonton: *BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!*
I think moonton just hates natlia
Jungle natlia is stupid that shi doesn't work..
Moonton wants Roaming natalia to just die.
I think the only option rn is to go sidelane natlia.
*They nerf natalia hard*
Ohh wait Valentina got nerfed?
Ohh good what nerf did she receive?
(Her terror duration is 0.1 sec shorter)
Hope soon my gameplay will be recognised by everyone stay safe everyone
MM with knockback skill mains after hearing Natalia nerf : NOICE 👌
Moonton must be drunk for nerfing natalia this bad..i will really miss her ,just bring the old one.
Chou idle animation should be the push up and one hand push and one finger push or perhaps no hands push up they should change the last pose of push up to a kick or to a jojo reference something that is chou like personality.
Poor Natalia, imagine there is a Eudora in opponent side. Surely, Eudora will 123 combo her.
Ikr, I really learned it in a hard way. Because one time when I spotted a MM pushing minions, I tried attacking her but I forget to look on the map that Eudora is missing. So I attacked the mm, but Eudora stunned and killed me. That made me realize that it was a bait 🗿.
Natalia easy target for flameshot now. Becomes the masterbaiter without passive. Easy to pick off if you a mage since 1st skill needs to hit to get 2nd charge. There goes my main.
Old natalia: Unli invisibility
New Natalia: 0.3 secs
I mean WTF
Feels like the devs are just throwing balancing ideas at the cutting room floor. What ya'll doing to my Nat?! 😭
Im a Moscov user 6k matches 66wr
But moontoon why you nerfed him🥲😔
As the longer mlbb gets it gets worst this is why my friends quitted mlbb moonton always nerfs fun heroes
I'm pretty sure the developer might've went against a nata player on a regular match and got wrecked really badly with taunts adding the final blow from the player hence taking the petty revenge on her.
Lods what about my idol early bird 😔 Johnson no longer double ultimate
If Natalia's major nerf goes live on the official server, I'll reconsider retiring forever from MLBB. 😔
Julian will be less effective in jungle given his main source of damage which is his skill has increased the cooldown.
Why Not Delete Remove Natalia😑
Why So Much Nerf?
What? Is moneyton so salty because Nat always feeds on its faves? Lol.
But seriously tho, as Nat main (2k matches), just remove her from the game if they're just going to ruin her again and again (best version of Nat is still the scratchy one). I mean does moneyton know the word "balanced"? Wtf is that 0.3s reveal bs? How does moneyton define invisible? Lol
Yes, their favorite "Beatrix". Because moneytoon really want a PUBG or FPS games Collab so bad.
Natalia user 😭😭😭 why moonton why
Natalia hater yea hea boy
If gusion throws his dagger at the base looking like Minato that's kinda cool
Natalia be like:Whats the point of me being invisible??
As a Natalia user when playing an assassin, this is so crap. Moonton always consider the pick in the Legend above ranks and wasn't considering the lower ranks when buffing and nerfing.
AWESOME IDOL 😁 HOPEFULLY MY PHARSA GAMEPLAY WILL BE ABLE ENTERTAIN EVERYONE THANK YOU FOR SUPPORT GUYS ☺️❤️🙏
Still waiting for elgin doing a video about the new talent system.
Hey Elgin whats up where country are you from
Mataron a Natalia si hacen esos cambios... F y Más F...
amazing video💯💯💯 nice game idol💪💪👍👍 Support from Malaysia🌠🌠🌠🌠
I’m glad natalia is getting nerfed thank god
Return that 4 mark requirement for Wanwan. 3 marks plus inspire buff are too much.
agreeable.
⚡I HOPE MY IRITHEL WILL BE RECOGNIZED SOON AND BE IDOLIZED!❤⚡
Moonton is nerfing my main heroes💀💀