DCUO: New Art Swapping Drama?
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Art swapping undermines content worse than pre Clamp did. It should be put to an end yesterday.
*I think that there should be a menu similar to the Emote Wheel, allowing players to quickly swap artifacts, rather than the current clunky method.*
*A less janky method of artifact-swapping could encourage some casual players to purchase additional artifacts.*
*Deleting artifact-swapping would likely reduce sales of related supplies.*
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YES
ORRRRR dcuo could stop tryna make all their cash off of artifacts and make it to where players can do the Same amount of damage with just 3 certain artifacts, that way no one complains about having to take longer to complete instances and that way no one has to spend their entire raid inside the inventory slot. No one in this game wants to have to max out 5-6 artifacts (ON EVERY TOON THEY USE) just so they can run elite content. What about their support role? It would take 1-2 years to be able to max out 5-6 arts for the DPS role and then they’d have to start the grind all over just to get their support artifacts upgraded. Hate me all you want but not everyone can just drop $500-600 to get these artifacts upgraded.
I would argue that if the artifact has a cooldown timer and switching it reset said timer that's not working as intended. it's exploiting a system that the devs aren't able to correct just like any other exsploit people have come up with in the game previously
There is no loophole that is being exploited. How is it the players fault the devs create and release artifacts that they can't properly maintain? if that was the case then the artifacts themselves should have been scrapped and designs where there were no effects/cooldowns could be used. Look at the Lazarus Pit Water that mechanic was specifically designed and released where it was WELL KNOWN that the swap and ignore the effects. It was even plainly laid out on test server. Guess what, it was released to the public anyways with full knowledge. That isn't an exploit, that is working as intended.
@@ObsidianChill using a method to circumventing set limits and specs on the art. that is designed to work in a specific way. everything they are doing is going around downtimes and effects. clearly exploiting the set parameters. Im not saying people should be banned its not the players fault for using whatever is currently available to them if they wish, but saying its not an exploit is ingenuious
@Drathmor He deleted my post on how Dead King's Scepter can be swapped in out avoiding the cooldown and proc chance making it call down an orbital everytime you use a power cause it completely proves him wrong about there not being an exploit element to it. Also if they can lock trinkets out for cooldowns whether you swap them out and back in then they can do the same exact thing to artifacts they're just being lazy or really just don't care. It's not that they lack the ability or anything like that. My trinkets have effects on them and when I pop them and swap them out the cooldown persists so it's a load of crap. If art swapping allowed you to get the full effects of the artifact without leveling it you best believe it would be patched within hours to days. This problem doesn't cost them money if anything they make more money from it so they let it go. The devs said they got rid of clipping cause the skill gap and damage gap between players in the know and not in the know was too large well the same could be said about people who art swap and exploit cooldowns and proc chances vs. people who don't or aren't in the know.
@@UtubeUser-xm9ty part of our conversation was deleted as well, but what are you going to do. if you want honest conversation but its his channel he can do what he wants
@@UtubeUser-xm9ty Didn't delete anything and nothing you've said proves shit lol. You swap out your pet and the cooldown persists because that's not an internal cooldown. Where does it say anywhere in the DKS description what the internal cooldown is or even if it says anything about having a cooldown? It doesn't the orbital assistance duration had to be discovered by players. So what is there to exploit if its not even a defined number associated with the artifact? Could/Should it be addressed? sure but referring to it as an exploit shows only how uneducated you are about the subject. Since artifacts were released HAS THERE BEEN ANY SINGLE ATTEMPT to adjust ANYTHING to do with swapping? no there hasn't. What is there to exploit then when its been the same for 5 years without any attempt to adjust it? that is called working as intended. The artifact has always worked the exact same since its release and its just players discovering new ways it can be used. Is that new way unbalanced? sure that's why its a BALANCE issue.
Oh, how people quickly forget the mass exodus we saw after the “stat clamp”, removal of AM/WM, and removal of Precision from the power combos. Nerfing helps nothing. And honestly, I don’t think our community could handle another change like that. I don’t like artifact swapping, but I understand if I want to play with a certain caliber people, I have to do it. And if I don’t feel like it that day, I just don’t play with those people. That simple.
No one is gonna tell me I can't art swap the grind and some cash I spent on this game on arts. No one is taking away my money idc what anyone say. Nerfing is the worst idea ever.
@@NocSlays no one but the god king Mepps, but I feel you 😂
Ok no, artifacts are not working as intended. How will it be working as intended if you are skipping cooldowns and cancelling the drawbacks, what is the point of redacting the cooldowns and the drawbacks in the description of the artifact then? It makes no sense, don't make any excuses for using exploits.
where does it say about a cooldown on the mercy art? where does it even say a buff duration on cog or tetra? Artifacts are working how they were designed. How is it the players fault the devs don't have the technology in dcuo to change artifacts? doesn't mean its an exploit. Its a game mechanic
@@ObsidianChill th-cam.com/video/ARMRiaZLWas/w-d-xo.html
In the very first 3 minutes of the video you can see how he is nullifying the drawback of the artifact while still keeping the stacks.
If that's not an exploit then idk what it is. Whether you wanna do it or not, it's your choice, no one can tell you how to play the game. But don't say it's not an exploit when it obviously is.
@@Christian102XD that is how the artifact and all artifacts work. There isn't an art where you swap and the effect duration ends. The devs have literally said they have no tech available to stop that change when arts were designed. Could it change in the future? sure but its not an exploit because they had to design the artifact that way from the beginning.
Arts should be locked during combat. Going in and out of your inventory makes the combat garbage imo. Having to interrupt your combat to get the best results is terrible gameplay. Pick the best setup for the situation you’re in and that’s that.
Exactly, one of the reasons we have armories for.
Or add more slots for arts
Idc if pple art swap. I dont do it personally, but dont be breathing down my neck about my damage when your over their pulling out every single art.
Thats where i stand on it
The real limitations are not the artifacts it's the devs.
Exactly
contradictions : i made a video to explain how FIRE absorb heat ticks were bugged because continuing after you cancel the animation. (just to get heals, not damage)
now defending artifact swapping is funny.
I would agree if upgrading a single art for free takes less then 6 months, but it doesn't. Actually it takes almost a year to upgrade a single art.
Coming back to pick at the game for another few weeks before I lose interest again. An older mmo used to have this issue. WoW, they made it so you can't swap your equipment in combat. Done. Now preparation and the selection of the right gear before the gear becomes another layer of depth. Yeah there's armories, but they're supposed to have a 10 min mid combat CD, unless there's another exploit to be aware of lol
I'm just getting back into the game and honestly this whole Art Swapping thing seems very overwhelming and disappointing, but I do think I would embrace it if they made it easier to do it. I play on Xbox and at times just opening up the inventory lags a little bit and just art swapping in general on Xbox is slow. Not as intuitive as PC. So I hope that since Art Swapping is a thing now, and they won't change it just because I don't like it, that the devs will just embrace it. I saw a comment that mentioned making an Art Swap wheel like the emote one they have, and that sounds like a great idea. If it were that quick and easy to Art Swap, I would definitely do it.
I think they should just embrace it and make art swapping easier 😅. At least make the experience fun so we don’t have to spend time in your inventory. However, I could also see how such a move could make people see it as a money grab to rush for more artifacts/mats.
My expectations are that they’ll do nothing. The correct move would probably be to at least stop the resetting of artifact effect cooldowns via equip/ unequip.
They didn’t even need to nerf EoG they just needed to get rid of art swapping in general. The ONLY reason people will defend keeping art swapping is because they dipped into their wallets and spent $200+ to get multiple 200 arts, so ofc they want to keep it.BUT It takes 6 months to max out ONE artifact as a free to play player, and that’s 6 months of GRINDING. do you think free to play players wanna spend 3-4 years to finally get 5-6 200 artifacts? Just to have to go and get another 3 for their specific power role? Dcuo needs to get rid of art swapping all together and buff what you can do with just 3. That way you can still beat instances just as fast but without having to have every single dps art at 200. Also having to switch to your inventory every 3-5 seconds IS NOT FUN. I miss the old dc when skill mattered, not the amount of money spent in the game.
I think they either need to embrace art swapping or reject it. As in, make a swap/quick select button. Something to make it more intuitive for players who aren't in the know. Or come up with some way to stop it altogether.
So we just not gone talk about how the art swapping is affecting the support roles mainly the trolls. & it’s affecting them because they either are getting kicked out the group or their being blamed or can’t run because their not art swapping
it's the games fault for controllers though. We can't CC because breakout profiles are broken and it hurts the tanks rotations, we don't need to power groups anymore because they can power themselves mostly besides a few powersets, debuffs don't really matter cause there are no enrages or self healing npcs etc. All controllers can do is to buff the group
it depends on the group bro if they specifically type they want a buff troll then just dont tell them to inv and i promise u will never come across this problem ever again
@@veryslightyoffsa but you can still have the buff artifacts and they’d still want you to artifact swap .. Regardless if your a buff troll and I have seen it plenty of times .. Art swapping is becoming a requirement, no if &’s or butts
@@marqusiq5597 again depending on the group
@@marqusiq5597 if I troll a grp they be lucky if I even throw debuffs let alone buff them fuck em
Aww shit here we go again... aint this the same thing that caused a certain creative director to go and make board games? 😂
Yep 😂😂
If they intend to keep swapping, then maybe they should add an artifact icon on the skillbar and once clicked (ideally you'd want to hotkey it too) you get a flyout of all your arts. Basically make it less intrusive so you dont have to open your inventory which takes up the whole screen.
I’m a controller main, I have so many situational artifacts. If I’m about to group shield I might as well pop on soul cloak first, if I’m going to orbital might as well dead king’s scepter. What’s next taking away the bottle-city soder artifact because people use it when appropriate too?
Because you are not supposed to swap mid battle, hope they get rid of it all to spite you all
I fundamentally disagree with the concept that they intended for you to not leave Artifacts equipped when they're on cooldown. I've played plenty of games where there are once/minute types of procs. People don't switch during combat. It's not that the tech doesn't exist. It does. It's actually really simple to implement. Put everything on cooldown upon equipping. Or just don't allow equipment to be changed during combat. Either one is very simple and requires a fairly simple bit of coding.
As to the question of why would you use the bad Artifacts, well that's kinda the problem. There's no reason for them to keep making crappy Artifacts.
Of course none of this will happen. They want people to buy Artifacts. It's a huge revenue stream. So yes, it's "working as intended". But, it's not because it's good for the game. It's because it's good for taking our money.
No nerfs. Vamps please. MORE ART SLOTS.
OH i did see that thread, i wondered what happened to it.
i thought it was a fun/different approach to the convo, but then it was out of sight out of mind hahaha
there are rpg's with GIANT skill trees out there, so having/using just 3 arts out of the 40 like you mentioned is no fun. rpg ppl LOVE getting more stat bonuses. same with allies, only getting to use 2 passives kinda sucks. i want lots of bonuses, lots of fun sources of damage, lots of fun sources to keep me alive.
so yeah, we need MORE not less!
that’s the problem now, the game is pay to win. arts should lock once you’re in combat so that way u have to be strategic instead of just swapping and exploiting the game constantly
you can legit save nth up and use it on double arts xp and get 2-3 200 arts without spending a dime people are just stupid and dont do that
The game isn't pay to win but rather pay for convenience. Having 200s isn't good if you have a bad loadout, running the wrong augments (rainbow augs, bad sp spec etc) you're gonna lose out to dpses with 120s that know what they're doing.
You can't use artys in pvp so who cares. Oh no you didn't get top DPS in the raid. Oh well.
They should just make it where you cant change arts during combat
This increases their sales they will not get rid of art swapping. Probably was a oversight on there part but worked out in there favor.
easy fix and a lot of other mmos already do this, just make it so that you can't swap gear/items when you are in combat.
The Artifacts should be locked in combat, plain, and simple.
The reason theres "Drama" as you call it, isnt because some people cant use it, so they want it nerfed.
The Artifacts as they are do in fact work as intended individually, yes. However the problem is, people are exploiting them with swapping arts.
I knew you yourself are really into art swapping, hence the reason why youre so offended anytime the subject is brought up, and make a video about it to demonstrate your biased pov, since you do it, and you dont want your exploiting arts to be removed from the game, but the change is long overdue.
The fact of the matter is there was only ever meant to be 3 artifact slots per character, unless using differnt armories.
You mentioned some artifacts are temporary, like for orbitals, and supply drops, unless youre using yhem for base stats, arguing that theyd be useless otherwise.
They wouldnt, because in your own words, the artifact is working as intended, individually.
The problem here is that people are exploiting the artifacts by rotating through they to increase thier performance, when were only supposed to have 3 slots. The devs have already mentioned theyre staying at rank 200, and that 3 is all were going to get when it went from 2, to 3.
Besides that, it is creating more division like the clipping, and eog problems, where unless ppl are using those exploits theyll be kicked, and treated like crap because theyre not participating in that.
Im genuinely curious why people in dcuo that do all this art swapping want to play the inventory simulation mini game during fights, like how is that even enjoyable? Youre literally opening and closing inventory every few seconds for what, to measure whos got the biggest damage. 😂😂
Theres other ways to chase scoreboard if thats what youre after, that dont require exploiting the game.
That is what i think, and apparently a pretty big part of the community too, since this keeps getting brought up.
Nope!
Lol, you don't have to agree. Everyone has their own opinion, hence the reason the community is divided, and the subject keeps coming up.
@@Anonymous-yv8etAccurate assessment! Kudos. Yes, it's just to chase damage. Dpsuo is what I call this game.
*To the general public* if you are not skilled enough to pull all this off. Then play at your level. Don’t complain. As he said in his video the arts are working as intended.
Fax
Its basically saying if you de-equip & re-equip your orbital strike you should be able to use it again, same with your cola.
imo its an oversight from og creator of artifacts. i couldn't care less by the way , i'm perfectly fine art swapping upto a certain number lol
@@hansvanoosterwijck5969 yes I can agree with your statement. But as far as skill goes not anyone can pull this off effectively(know how to, when to) it’s not as simple as just swapping it back and forth or else you won’t be effective with it. Just saying if you are not skilled enough to pull it off. Just go on about your day and keep doing what you doing. Don’t wanna hear the wining from folks that don’t even know how it’s properly done in content to maximize damage.
@@gamermartinez7486 Did i say that ? Just another record on repeat for all the different posts here imo.
I am fully aware there are different skill levels in skill levels. there is a diff between being able to swap and being able to juggle multiple artifacts , and then there is still the thing of doing it at the right times.
Everything after a certain point has been mentioned numerous times .
@@gamermartinez7486 i openly stated i am fine with art swapping upto a certain point. i've been through rodeos like this enough in this game/games. me stating that i'll stop at fe. 6 artifacts is just a preference to keep my head stable, if other people are fine doing it i could care less.
Can you complete content without doing the swaps? The likely answer is yes. With that said this swapping is just about the scoreboard so of course anyone who does it well doesn’t see an issue with doing it. I’ve been a controller since quantum’s release. I’ve since switched to Tank because A) control role is basically useless unless you spend the majority of your playing time in your inventory swapping arts to appease a group. And B the game has gone down a road where they’ve developed the uselessness of the role. I chose not to participate in the role anymore after grinding for years to be good at the role. So instead of being a contributor to a successful group by debuffing Buffing and helping control mobs your a battery and a glory hole for DPS’s. Nah I’m good. I could take the swap or leave it. People are going to be SUPER upset either way.
All they have to do is make it to where you can’t swap gear while in combat.. other games do it
IF it were intended then why is there a cooldown in the first place lol?
I don't particularly care for art swapping (though I don't play high end content). What I care a lot about is getting new arts that are viable. I was excited when Ebon's released because it is actually used compare to others.
This is good its basically like having more power load outs in my opinion.
I hate the necessity of it all.
Either lock the arts or add more slots for arts, like running 4-5 arts on 1 build.
@ObsidianChill Ive gone thro all the Comments and all i’ve seen are Complains no solving Ideas.
My Idea to this Drama is: As of now, the Artifacts are similar to Gear and Trinkets.
Look it would be for all roles easy if theres a new Tab added to the Inventory only for Artifacts itself and get all the Benefits from all Artifacts at the same Time, the same Gamesystem is there for Augments aswell. Treat the Artifact like Augment
I just think this Idea would solve the Swapping Drama drastically
Might as well give us access to all of our arts and eliminate swapping. Atleast the 30 second cooldown with a 4 second exploit might seem more understandable. What’s the point of a slot limitation if we are going to use more than three in a fight?
I think other arts outside of the 3 we carry should be locked into mainframe similar to white mods. No stats but passive effects. And arts should be locked during combat.
U trash
yeah some arts really have little use and can't be properly mainlined. :/
@@marhawkman303agreed. I find a lot of the lesser used ones very interesting but they aren’t meta so I have no incentive to focus on them… not yet anyways
I don't like those swap arts , this gives too much advantage for people who ve been playing for years or players who paid a lot in the game , and those who are totaly f2p they are screwed . Climbing one art at max as f2p is already pain so personaly they shouls remove arts swamp
I hate artifact swapping because I'm not good at it, but for the people who are good at it, and still stay alive, then all power to you, but don't expect me to pick you up if you fall.
currently the only art swapping i do as my water dps main, is throwing on Lazerus when i think i'm going to die or need extra survivability.
But imo, If art swapping is to remain. Perhaps they can simply allow you to store them like armories, But remove the combat limitations of armories. Allowing you to swap quickly on the fly. Maybe with a short cooldown, That or allow us to fuse 2 arts together to get both effects on one art and negate art swapping as it currently is, But basically allow up to 6 arts at one time as a replacement. Maybe even limiting which arts can be combined so as to maintain some balance. I mean if eog IS OP AND EXPLOITIVE DESPITE IT WORKING "AS ORIGINALLY INTENDED" (sorry about caps. Too lazy to fix. lol) But if that is the case. Then i'd say something that is highly centered for PC players due to the speed of using the inventory. Is also kinda OP too.
Me, As a guy who doesn't care about the score. I care about winning as a team. I'd rather just have a workaround rather than an outright removal. I think my idea is probably the best compromise.
After all. Opening the inventory mid battle is a great way to get killed.So a better option would be i think best
I think if they're not going to nerf the idea of swapping arts by adding cooldowns then it should be a mechanic you can utilize on the fly, that makes it a level playing field for all 😊
A level playing field isn't something that can be done in MMOs
It’s always something 😮💨
these videos are just to try and convince the developers we are not farming exploits continually by swapping artifacts. I dont cheat other players like this. I keep the same 3 equipped.
the devs already know all this. It was just how artifacts were originally designed.
the problem is. this works smoothly on pc but on console there's no button for a quick inventory access. sometimes pressing the option button take me to the loadouts tap and I can't lock it to the inventory tap.
on console it's even easier to art swap. Maybe you just aren't on PS5 but PS players open their inventory automatically selecting their first slot where PC can only quick swap the last selected slot then we have to move out mouse cursor, which could be anywhere on the screen
@@ObsidianChill Yh it does but sometimes it doesn't take me back to the last selected tap. instead it goes to the traits menu. I don't know why it does this but when I change the world sometimes it gets fixed, but this doesn't help if I have a raid to complete.
You don't always need to use the mouse to art swap, space bar selects the first artifact in inventory and the 3rd slot on your build and tab/arrow buttons select other artifacts in inventory
Lets goooo baby
Why do ppl assume an art is useless if it’s not being procced 24/7 it may if 2 players didn’t art swap and 1 had the meta trans strat quizlet combo and the other had some weird combo like trans scrap and pied piper the damage would be super close, so this whole thing about useless arts is misinformation. The current state of the art system just make others better to get quick damage
If you don't have a SC then flute isn't doing you any good, if you used your supply drop pstone is doing nothing for 5min, if you already summoned your pets and henchmen Mercy is doing nothing. There is no misinformation, it is the definition of a swap art
The misinformation is saying the arts are useless and I said since they way arts are designed that we can swap them that why are better for that but just saying they’re not good slotted is just wrong is what I’m saying
The easiest way would be to lock artifacts in combat and you can only change with an armoury, I've only just come back to the game and I don't really mind, I see why people do it but it is abit broken.
if u just came back just stfu. just stfu. stop putting in your two cents
u clearly mind it if ur commenting
@LordZanji erm nope, if I really cared I'd be on the forum moaning to mepps, as it stands then so be it, but I mean if mepps is even saying himself it's gone too far as to switching artifacts every power (yep I've seen videos of that) it's just got stupid. I mean your obviously a pc player otherwise you wouldn't of even replied, fast menu times doesnt make you a better dps for what is essentially a cheese, even if they keep art swapping I'll still stick with hl as its easily the most fun power in the game and do combo clipping, because menu's the game isn't fun.
@@smegintheheads822 ps5 with a gaming monitor is fast
This is exploit and hearing you trying to justify it is funny because even you know it’s a exploit 💀
you don't even know what exploit means.
I’m asoftware engineer and I know building a program like that would take an extremely large snout of money and time to even get it to work right so I don’t see them eliminating everlasting effects at all.
Wouldn’t it just be a matter of shortening the duration of the effect. Same concept reapplying the effect while art is equipped.
Ie making the effect last 2 seconds so by the time the art is swapped out it’s effect is no viable.
I understand why people art swap but to me it's just slimy and eventually it's going to be more harm than good
How is it more harm?
All art swapping do is cause friction between players that do and players that don't.and we really don't need anything that's going to make the player count any lower
@@JamesBrown-xo7sm players thst don't should either git gud or stop crying like Lil bitches
@@JamesBrown-xo7sm So take away art swap and kill the game is what you want. Not going to happen and shouldn't happen.
The eventual 'more harm than good' has already happened.
That's why it keeps coming up, time, and time again.
The devs should have locked arts during combat a long time ago, now it's just a mess.
I doubt it is that hard to make artifacts slots locked while in combat. So that is a weak excuse, on the other hand such change would make a lot of people quit and the game probably need those well paying players.
The whole artifacts/ allies fiasco made me quit again about a year ago and reading all the comments doesn't make me wanna come back even one bit. I think the whole importance of Artifacts and Allies should be reduced, they have been center theme for years now.
I think your trying to use your platform to influence a dev decision, i also think looking at these comments, many of us think this video makes you look desperate.
desperate for what lol to tell the devs not to change art swapping? they will NEVER do that, look at what happened to Eye of Gemini they announced a nerf, that is actually needed, and rolled it back from the complaints. To adjust art swapping would be to kill a giant revenue stream and there would be countless players demanding refunds for artifacts they would never use again, just like what happened with Venom Wrist Dispenser. The devs aren't going to try and navigate that minefield lol
@@ObsidianChill Desperate to keep your cheesy exploits, you are not a stupid man OC, how in your right mind can you open the video with "Its not meta" im assuming you do know what meta actually means, Most, effective, tool, available. That is exactly what tac/arti swaps is.
Every trend tends to be over within a certain time. i guess it will be over anytime soon. it sucks btw hate this swapping.
I’m completely fine with artifact swapping as a concept, what I don’t like though is that because the game runs so badly on console we can’t take advantage of the swapping in the same way without a lot more risk of disconnecting.
PC also has the advantage of possibly using Macros to switch (I’ve yet to see anyone ever admit to using these).
PC has always had an advantage in DPS compared to console but the swapping has made it much worse imo.
So it’s cool, but sucks we can’t all use it equally
arts should be locked during combat imo. i'm surprised they haven't given us more art slots. the more slots the more money spent on increasing different arts.
If they wanted to make more money they would add more slots and keep swapping bc then the casuals would buy another art for the extra slot and the try hards would still be buying them to swap.
Also locking arts in combat would make over half the artifacts in this game useless
Locking arts is a terrible idea for lazy people who can't keep up. If your game play style doesn't include art swapping and just playing casually then you have the right to play that way. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it should be neutered. And adding an extra slot would definitely make it to where the difficulty of the game will shift
@@kdixon720 not everyone plays on PC where it’s easy
@DVNNY nice of you to assume I play on PC but you'd be wrong there. If you play on Xbox or switch then I kinda understand alas, I play on ps
I really don't care if people art swap. I'd swap between combat for situational stuff, but I'm just not super hard core I guess. If the devs wanted to clamp down on it though, I think it would be just as simple as putting a "hold button for 4 or 5 seconds to equip". Art swapping would still be available, but the rampantness of having some people run 8 or 10 arts in a single boss fight would be almost eliminated.
I have out dpsed so many players that art swap and i do now do it myself but the difference isn't as big as people make it to be. It's better for sure but not game breaking. If you are a good dps with high arts cr and skill points and a good rotation you will dominate the board no matter what . And art swapping is one of the tools that helps make running content a little less frustrating and fun for the people that wanna be competitive and it's not hurting your personal gameplay in any way. This community freaks out for no reason lol
just cause someone swaps arts doesn't mean they are a good dps like you said. There is no art swap (besides EOG lol) that you just swap and magically be a better dps
@@ObsidianChill exactly. and if the rotation is bad even eog swapping won't fix it
Explaining the basic concept of tac/tech swapping to the dc community like they are 5 year olds. It’s so clear they have never touched any other mmo.
I’m just here with my popcorn
They sure love making new arts instead of working on there “tech”
my suggestion is: since make it a "feature", just make 4x4 bar swapping artifact to set which one to be activate. free $ for dcuo.
Just like the emote wheel, we need an armory wheel.
i want artifact swapping and eog to be nerfed its not that its hurting anyone its bothering me because i dont know why im just really miserable and i want to see others do worst although i know they will find another meta and ill be there to cry and get that one nerfed to because im a liberal
a normie like me would think the script of artifact would stop working if the artifact is unequipped. thats crazy find thank you for sharing. go chase that scoreboard heroes and villains XD
What do you think?
I think you’re handsome
@@dTayeb my weekend is so much better now merci
I think Mepps
I think locking arts would make over half the arts in the game useless and make dpsing more stale. ppl who don’t swap would be getting beat regardless of swapping so they are looking for something to blame for their poor performance in game. Art swapping takes some effort to learn the raid mechs so you know when and when not to swap so there is also a skill gap amongst those who are swapping
I think you got the biggest muscles.
do i need to be in combat mode when summoning that first pet to get that reactive field damage ?
Alright bud do you have an up to date munitions build?
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Swapping arts is fun. I started by only swapping 1 out but now.... it's a lot of fun mixing it with a few. Only pain in butt is when my menu opens in like onduty/skillpoints ect. vs my inventory. PLUS like chillz said all your other arts are just sitting in bank/inventory. It would just be like allies. At some point, they'll sit there and be useless. Waste of grind/money or time for people.
Everyone play like they want i have no problem of people art swapping, but i don't art swap cause i cannot imagine me 50% of the time in the inventory switching things, i don't see the fun in that.
El intercambio de artefactos en combate deberia de prohibirse, no me creo que este sistema de combate esté pensado para entrar al menú todo el rato para estar cambiando el artefacto...es ridículo
Lo q pasa esq los desarrolladores no les da la gana de prohibirlo por que saben que así la gente gastará mas dinero en nivelar mas artefactos...
Llora perrita tu dps vale verga como sea
Personally if a troll is taking a tanks aggro then the tank is ass plain and simple I swap and still retain aggro only way a troll should be getting aggro if he's using a pull or everyone in the group is so ass the troll somehow has all the hate/aggro
Have you heard yourself, honestly?
Yo Obsidian, is the laz arti swap exploit a thing or has it been rectified?
It will always be a thing because that is just how artifacts in dcuo presently work
@@ObsidianChill I've tested it and it seems like the effect only works if I have lazarus on, there seems to be no delay at all. I've heard that also you can reset the effects my swapping, so is there something I'm doing wrong in regards to timing or something?
Locking artifacts not only is a dumb idea but will make the game lose money bc players would have no incentive to level more than 3 arts per build and could feed all the xp to a newer powerful art if made. If it’s one thing the devs hate more than “exploits” it’s losing money. See how fast they address marketplace/artifact glitches vs people disconnecting from raids
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that’s the problem now, the game is pay to win. or even compete. arts should lock once you’re in combat so that way u have to be strategic instead of just swapping and exploiting the game
@@therealSwaggyB These dumbtards low-key defending pay-to-win, lol
Why people make things difficult. Let the game evolve.
Mercy artifact might secret is out
The solution is to make the server lag so much, arty swapping becomes logisticy impossible. 😎
If art swapping is working as intended, then so is EOG.
EOG is working as intended, it's a balance issue. What the game was in 2018 isn't the game in 2023. EOG wasn't created with pets and allies in mind. That is what needs to be adjusted
Is it just me I feel EOG is healing for less
@@ObsidianChill The imbalance created by Art Swap is way more pronounced than EOG. The devs did not create artifacts thinking people would swap it to get orbital assistance every 4s. If the end goal is to balance across powers, artifacts, and allies, that should drive all changes.
@@Supsyfy You are wrong, EOG is at the center of most artifacts or allies. You do realize they are holding back the release of the Static Ally because of EOG? Alot of the need for the extra art swaps diminish without EOG being as prevalent as it is
@@ObsidianChill How does changing EOG discourage people from swapping dead king, amulet, and ebon?
Eye of gemini was working as intende....
I've never understood why people try to hard to be good at this game.
Its a fun fame but elite content is trash and thats literally the only content that requires people to be try hards.
ive never understood why people hated others for trying to be better at stuff now you just call them tryhards atleast theyre trying
As an xbox player I'm just frustrated its pretty much impossible to swap. But that shouldn't effect everyone else
skill issue
This meta most of ya speak off only applies to trash players. Bottom tier dpses, only art swap I do is eog, and most of the times I don’t run with eog heals so I’m relying on my own load out to give me sc. i don’t know who needs to hear this but ya can swap all these artifacts in your load out and still be third dps 😂😂 don’t let these people fool ya
I maybe see arts being locked in the future . But then again are the devs to lazy for that
I think it's not about them being lazy but cutting themselves out of potential money cuz if we can't swap arts it's pointless to lv more than 3 arts but with the current system u can lv like 7 viable arts that's all potential money for daybreak
but that loadouts just works in spam ..look parse 1.3 is low for this DLC(code video)
that wasn't a real rotation though was just showing proof of concept, was just iconic powers like gag glove
lol, Ive never tried to swap yet, I do well without it usually in the top 3 from one of your loadouts, lol ,maybe they can add more slots.
kinda stupid to do just play normally, the game is already dumb easy
Is art swapping necessary for elite end game content ? I just wanna run it without having to sweat
It's not necessary for anything, it is just something extra you can do to expand on your role
Dcuo community will find anything to cry about. As long as I get through the content I do not care what anyone does just don’t speed hack I’ll drop group quick
I dont art swap but i also don't care if someone else does, again Play your way is cool with me
So people are mad people are finding easy ways to compete stuff faster
If art swapping is gonna get me out of the mission faster. I'm all for it. The only ppl crying are the ones that wanna be top DPS. Also if you wanna end the art swap. Just have the player have the arts in there inventory & the buffs apply automatically.
Not sure why people care.. if people are this focused on getting every bit of dmg they can., more power to them.. I find it it messy and tedious but why would I care ? Only time I would care is if it became common in ALL content and i'm kicked for it etc - but noone has done or said that - unless you are like in top 1%
I think it's really funny that none of you watching this video actually knows what an exploit is. Since artifacts were created in 2018 every potential advantage of swapping between them has been clearly laid out to the developers, they've known about it every step of the way. Look at the Lazarus Pit artifact, swapping for immunity to damage was highlighted in videos and forum posts on test server and guess what? the artifact released the exact same way. How can you even begin to refer to that as an exploit when the creators themselves clearly know the impact swapping has and releases it will full knowledge that it will be used as such by the playerbase? You can refer to artifact swapping with alot of terms but exploit isn't even remotely an accurate term.
I know purely well what it is just people make any claims they wish to justify things they benefit from. the devs profit from this and they don't have a easy fix so they haven't done anything with it as of yet. but knowing about something and letting it continue does not mean it's intended. like they have done in the past just let it ride until they don't. then are forced to make a change when it gets too rampant in the community and starts affecting the larger group in play. we clearly know that pot isn't harmful but we continue to lock people up for it and ruin lives. that's been going on for decades because people profit from it. doesn't mean its something that should happen
@@drathmor1401 balancing artifacts like eog or vwd in the past doesn't mean there are exploits with artifacts. It literally means there are balance issues present, which there are. If the devs want to change cog/tetra to say a 6s buff to make it harder to swap, that is fine, its a balance change. There is not a single merit to any sort of question if artifact swapping is an exploit. It goes against every precedent in the games history.
@@ObsidianChill I know you and I aren't going to agree on this we run in different circles. And one of the reasons you need people like me in your conversations. To keep out the echo chamber effects. I know in a min-max community these things are necessary at present. But you have said this your self the players will adapt to what they are allowed.
I have a lot of respect for your work ethic but I feel you're swayed by your peers.
Arts wouldn't have negative or balancing features like cooldowns or timers or damage to you based on the outcomes of actions if they were intended to be swapped out finding ways to circumvent said negative status effect is by definition an exploit
Do adaptive augments stack?
yes
@@ObsidianChill 😊
Every Game has the regular players and the crazy try hards that understand the game at its highest level (smart gameplay).The regs never thought to use there arts in the way displayed and they dont like to art swap n they think eog would stop the sweaties. Ima stop here this is sum funny drama.
Couldn’t they just make the buffs last shorter for example tetra and cog last 6 sec
Then might as well cut BOP debuff cooldown to 3s. Since it was half the cooldown of buff duration without it.
shouldn’t be a problem helps get tru raid faster 🤷🏾
I literally quit the game because if you don't artifact swap as any role especially controller, people kick you out of content. No more base decorating no nothing.
I've never had that problem but I've stopped playing elite content because its pointless
This is not true lol the average pug group wouldn’t even know if you were swapping artifacts or not and if your league is requiring you to artifact swap then why would you be in that league in the first place lol
@@garcgu9571 It is true, just because something hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it hasn't happened to anyone else.
they just want you to buff troll, you don't have to art swap to buff troll like I showed with just rao-cog-tetra. You can add in the claw swap if you want but the main reason why groups say for e+ want swap trolls is so you can run BOP to not interfere with tank stuns. That is more the game's fault for putting controllers in that situation
Drama queen. No one does that. People kick people because of incompetence, not because of some trivial matter. You can finish any elite plus without artswap btw.
Just add a fourth artifact slot