Excellent rule set for randori; great that you emphasize ‘no new stuff’ when playing a lower rank, and to move away from your “A game”, to experiment with B-game waza Bravo! Always awesome stuff Sensei!!!
Sensei knows what he talks about! Huge Thank to Sensei Shintaro and all the production and supporting crew to make these educational content possible!!
I really like this! Especially advanced guys or bigger guys not just ripping you with their size or A game constantly. I’m a tani and sumi guy cause I’m old and busted … but I get the dangers and only really drop on training partners I trust. Also… we Randori in that 30-50% range. Only really fight for grips or ashi waza.
I got suplexed one of the first time I did randori. It went fine, thankfully. But dojo's really should tell their students to not do things like that, to beginners.
Yeah the guy who suplexed you was just trying to feel powerful. I have suplexed but we were equal belts and also it was in a inner dojo comp AND I like the guy so we were cool. A random suplex would leave a bad taste in my mouth for that dojo.@@seer775
We had a judo class at our gym that was mainly for bjj/mma. We kinda had a house rule that we would break when we hit the walls. But every now and then we would play against the walls since most of us cross trained 😆
Aren't you worried your students won't be used to being taken backwards if no tani otoshi or big pick ups? I get your safety emphasis but it seems like a big gap in the skill set
This is just silly. Tani otoshi is a great, practical technique that plenty of folks would benefit from more practice and specialization in. Is there any reason at all for this "rule," apart from baseless personal bias?
Its an injury risk, but I also think its a bit of noob trap. The move itself is not actually hard to do- I could perform one just fine early on in randori. But my sensei never liked it because of injuries and how it made me seek only counters. I had someone do it to me recently and now my ankle feels wack. And Tani Otoshi is one of his main moves.
If drop attacks are not allowed, how are you expecting green belts and below to hit a standing seoi nage in randori against a resisting opponents (,especially if there opponent is super bent over or stiff arming and if the tori is tall). There are no brown belts or even black belts that I know that can hit a standing seoi nage on an opponent that slightly knows what they're doing. I understand banning drop attacks if they are going to just spam it and use that as an escape from getting thrown, rather using it as a follow up attack.
Easiest solution is to create forward pressure, for example push towards the opponent and once you get a reaction of pushing back, that's when you go. The key word here is "resisting opponent", if your opponent is already resisting during entry, you're either forcing seoi in a wrong situation for example against a stiff arming opponent or not creating kuzushi. Resisting after entry doesn't really matter anymore since they're already off their feet. Of course you can't do seoi if the opponent is a lot taller, that's why you should have more than one tokui waza. I know plenty of black belts who can't do standing seoi in a randori against similar skill level, i also know plenty of green belts who can. Same can be said for almost any technique
This is why you gotta train. I took a while at it... and just today I have become capable of hitting standing Ippon Seoi Nage without dropping. Its up to the partner to also stop being stiff and bent over- that makes their judo suck too if they're not willing to open themselves up for attack. I don't have trouble hitting Seoi Nage on the tall, it feels better actually.
Great ruleset protocol, I wish all dojos had that.
Excellent rule set for randori; great that you emphasize ‘no new stuff’ when playing a lower rank, and to move away from your “A game”, to experiment with B-game waza
Bravo! Always awesome stuff Sensei!!!
Great rules
Very detailed rules, I love it! ❤
This is so good. Randori is essential by can quickly become more than just randori. Love the explication.
sensei make sure dojo has proper safe learning environment! Love this!
Sensei knows what he talks about! Huge Thank to Sensei Shintaro and all the production and supporting crew to make these educational content possible!!
You would think this is common knowledge too. Great vid!
Agreed. It shouldn't have to be said, but there are too many knuckleheads out there. I love that you took USA Judo has a user name. 😄👏
@@EsotericDave ill give back the username once they get their scr together 🫡🫡🫡
that's a Good teacher! OSS!
Amazing Randori 👋
I really like this! Especially advanced guys or bigger guys not just ripping you with their size or A game constantly. I’m a tani and sumi guy cause I’m old and busted … but I get the dangers and only really drop on training partners I trust. Also… we Randori in that 30-50% range. Only really fight for grips or ashi waza.
Wish my Sensei had the same common sense teaching.
me too
I got suplexed one of the first time I did randori. It went fine, thankfully. But dojo's really should tell their students to not do things like that, to beginners.
That's just rude.
Yeah the guy who suplexed you was just trying to feel powerful. I have suplexed but we were equal belts and also it was in a inner dojo comp AND I like the guy so we were cool. A random suplex would leave a bad taste in my mouth for that dojo.@@seer775
Can you please consider competing in the ultimate self defense championship.
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Is one knee drop seoi nage allowed for green belts and below?
We had a judo class at our gym that was mainly for bjj/mma. We kinda had a house rule that we would break when we hit the walls. But every now and then we would play against the walls since most of us cross trained 😆
He from Malaysia 😂
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Aren't you worried your students won't be used to being taken backwards if no tani otoshi or big pick ups? I get your safety emphasis but it seems like a big gap in the skill set
I'd think that by the time you're picked up, its basically too late to do anything else. Better to work on preventing it from even getting there.
This is just silly. Tani otoshi is a great, practical technique that plenty of folks would benefit from more practice and specialization in. Is there any reason at all for this "rule," apart from baseless personal bias?
Its an injury risk, but I also think its a bit of noob trap.
The move itself is not actually hard to do- I could perform one just fine early on in randori. But my sensei never liked it because of injuries and how it made me seek only counters.
I had someone do it to me recently and now my ankle feels wack. And Tani Otoshi is one of his main moves.
If drop attacks are not allowed, how are you expecting green belts and below to hit a standing seoi nage in randori against a resisting opponents (,especially if there opponent is super bent over or stiff arming and if the tori is tall). There are no brown belts or even black belts that I know that can hit a standing seoi nage on an opponent that slightly knows what they're doing.
I understand banning drop attacks if they are going to just spam it and use that as an escape from getting thrown, rather using it as a follow up attack.
Drill it in a competition class when you are expecting higher intensity.
@@seer775 drill what?
@@ddas8554 a drop arm throw.
Easiest solution is to create forward pressure, for example push towards the opponent and once you get a reaction of pushing back, that's when you go. The key word here is "resisting opponent", if your opponent is already resisting during entry, you're either forcing seoi in a wrong situation for example against a stiff arming opponent or not creating kuzushi. Resisting after entry doesn't really matter anymore since they're already off their feet. Of course you can't do seoi if the opponent is a lot taller, that's why you should have more than one tokui waza. I know plenty of black belts who can't do standing seoi in a randori against similar skill level, i also know plenty of green belts who can. Same can be said for almost any technique
This is why you gotta train. I took a while at it... and just today I have become capable of hitting standing Ippon Seoi Nage without dropping.
Its up to the partner to also stop being stiff and bent over- that makes their judo suck too if they're not willing to open themselves up for attack. I don't have trouble hitting Seoi Nage on the tall, it feels better actually.
Noob question here but why no tai otoshi?
High risk of knee injury.
I think he said tani otoshi.
He said, "tani otoshi," a very dangerous throw when done incorrectly
Thankyou guys
@@cindysi63 He did say tai otoshi too Im sure. But I thought maybe he meant tani otoshi?
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