Stuart & Cliffe Knechtle | Did Creation Have No Beginning And No Creator? | Give Me An Answer
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- Stuart & Cliffe Knechtle talk to college students about how a beginning of creation needs a creator, then later they talk about Hell?
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The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
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16:05 the conversation starting here has to be the hardest part with Christianity, at least for me. I’m reminded of the Parable of the Bags of Gold (Matthew 25:14-30). It’s not enough to silo in your faith, like the servant who buries his bag. As followers we are called upon to share our faith, to invest the gold and multiply it. But it can be frightening. Just like how investing money can cause you to lose some, spreading your faith can lead you to challenges that shake your foundation and leave you with doubt. These videos of Cliffe and Stuart are not only inspiring, they are also helpful to other evangelists (and people like myself who need to do better) because you can familiarize yourself with some common challenges to our faith and grow in your knowledge! So much thanks to the Knechtle’s for doing these videos!
Getting a bigger and bigger crowd. Great news and great work
School kids you mean 😂
@@saftax5683 old dogs seldom learn new tricks, better to preach to the young ones who will shape your country in the future, if the current generation wont destroy America.
@saftax5683 absolutely! Spread the word to the youth🙏🏾
Jesus loves you more than you can even comprehend, trust him… always❤️
*Him
Amen🙏
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@@paolasarris3350 Amen!❤️❤️
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First guy had me SUPER confused ngl. I couldn’t tell whose side he was on and then he said he followed Christ and I was like 🤔. Seems there’s a lot he didn’t understand. Great job boys!
This guy isnt a Christian . Hes a agnostic philosophy major. You can't be wishy washy and say everyone is right
For every design there is a designer. This logic makes sense to people when observing simplistic designs like a painting, drawing, tree house etc. The more complex the design the greater the designer must be
Have you ever researched the rebuttal to the argument from design?
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@@jasonnoble7302 all rebuttal argument against designer are silly excuse, it's like you try to lie in front of everybody who knows the truth
@@lalhmangaihalalhmangaiha8288so someone asks a simple question and you then say any rebuttals is a silly excuse….while not showing it’s one….
Then I guess I can say the designer argument is the ultimate silly excuse
@@therick363 your supposed to show counter argument for the designer argument, the fact that you can't even come up with something is tell sighn how sily the excuse will be
@ sigh. You missed the point. The other person simply asked a question and you decided to be condescending to them. I simple called you out.
Now either we can have a good conversation or not. Which would you like?
Just Came from school. LOVE FROM FINLAND 🇫🇮
My friend Aino lives in Saarijarvi
Love back to you ❤
Love from Norway. Be good at school, but don’t loose yourself in the satanic curriculum.
I need to find a peaceful land
@@menacedennis Antarctica?
We love ❤️ you Cliffe and Stuart watching from Uganda East Africa
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Stuart and Cliffe’s ministry brings me so much hope! Thank you!
Wow these two guys are absolutely amazing! I'm simply mesmerized by their incredible reasoning skills. I'm especially awed by their moral argument for the existence of a supernatural God.
I'm a Christian, and would like to love to do apologetics like these guys. God bless you Cliffe and Stuart.
Sorry I’m not impressed and don’t see very good reasoning skills
@@therick363 Would you explain what about it you don't see effective?
@ sure. I’ve seen a few of their videos about atheism or science topics. And their reasoning skills when not comes to those things? Very poor understanding or misrepresentation.
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The patients needed to do this for these people is incredible 👏 🙌
Cliff...your son sounds just like you! The sound of his voice and the sound of his passion.
God bless this ministry in Jesus Christ precious name, Amen.
This was really nice for me. I go to the university as and older person. I feel almost every professor has a bias against christianity. Although it is a Christian university. I follow all your stuff. Love from Norway.
To feel everyone who disagrees with your view is biased is a dangerous path to walk down. Better to judge an opinion by the extent of critical thinking it has employed.
Stuart is pacing in the background as if he is gonna break out some breakdancing moves
We’ve got 30 years of video from Cliffe, looks like we’ve got another 30 years with Stuart! 🙏🏾
And another 30 years of not providing any evidentiary facts or sound argument for this mythological Christian god.
@@TheoSkeptomai3they are sound arguments.
@@m8kinwaffles _Which_ argument is SOUND. Present it here in syllogistic form for my consideration.
@m8kinwaffles Well, are you going to present one of these supposed SOUND arguments?
@@TheoSkeptomai3 Where should I begin? Do you question if Jesus actually existed… or if Jesus did exist but didn’t resurrect… or etc.?
Love these videos, brothers! God bless you both!
Before we make any judgements, remember that there are times when we all compromise (I feel like I always do). Take Peter for an example, or Aaron. That professor may be compromising, or he could simply be confused. Either way, pray that God opens up his eyes to understand the reality of hell, the holiness of God, the depravity of man, and the height, depth, and breath of God’s grace
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)
That's why we need God, to fight the flesh, it may seem like our bad choices are chemicals, but when we choose God, we choose his will, that is spiritual.
Amen
He seems to think he knows what goodness is more than God knows. Also when someone seems to have that worldview they minimize how truly bad sin is.
We all have an understanding of what 'good' and 'bad' is, they're just not always consistent. The only difference is some of us take personal ownership of it and others outsource it to a higher being. I would like to think if you weren't religious, you would still know that it was wrong to murder (albeit we can debate the subjective nature of all these terms).
How do you know what goodness is?
@@jasonnoble7302 I love this question. I can see that it heads down the subjective/objective morality path.
Firstly I don't 'know' what goodness is, because goodness is a subjective term so there isn't anything to 'know' as such (one person's goodness can be another's evil, Christians preaching to a muslim fundamentalist would be considered evil and vice versa, so there's an example of subjectivity within the confines of religion without even requiring an atheist perspective). However that doesn't mean that I don't have an opinion/personal interpretation of it.
My perception of goodness is a product of my nature/nurture. My personality and the time/place/circumstances into which I was born. The same is true for all of us. Our societies organise these perspectives and we are 'policed' by the consensus view. Outliers are dealt with by society. This is why perspectives on these 'morals' evolve over time and vary from place to place. This is evidence for their 'subjectivity'.
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My morality is based upon an objective standard that exists outside of space and time that my aunt Lisa revealed to me when I as a child. 😎
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Cool beans huh ?
@@jasonnoble7302 What objective standard would that be?
Stuart is going off
Gracias a Dios 🩵🙏🏼
I did grow up with it, but I experienced side effects (what I mean by that is that I had also rejected God, but God just went back to me) because my parents were divorced when I was 4 and I ended up in a foster family for 2 years and then I moved again to another foster home and to another 6 times in total, but on the seventh, God came into my heart again. I hadn't seen my father for 4 years, no contact whatsoever, but then Tari (who was my mentor at the group where I lived) thought it was strange that I had no contact with my father and called him and the first thing my father asked was a photo because he no longer knew what I looked like. and now I live with my father again so I have 100% proof that he changed my life. so thank you God.
Awesome
I love the intro music.
Cliff please educate the rest of us about Kaneh Bosom, aka the Holy 🌿
There IS a qualifier! Romans 5:12 "All die in Adam, because ALL sin"
I see no reason to believe this Adam or 'sin' were realities.
Stuart! Please drop the one with George and Bryce!!!
Jesus Christ - my father, my lord and my savior ✝️🙏🏼
Maranatha
God bless you❤❤❤❤
So the philosophy teacher says hes a Christian,
yet he disagrees with most of the beliefs that makes a believer of Christ a believer?
God is alive and well!!!
The cross is meaningless if God is a universalist.
Only those that believe will be saved.
I sincerely hope and pray that this professor will someday come around to the truth.
What truth would that be?
@@TheoSkeptomai3 Well there's only one truth............
@NathanielCellist And what truth would that be?
@@TheoSkeptomai3 Jesus says "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me." That is the truth. Read the Bible, watch Cliffe's videos, find a church and check it out on Sunday. I am not trying to make you accept this on my own word, look in to it, I believe you will find truth if you really want it. If you do not want to accept the truth, I do not think you will find it. ❤❤
@NathanielCellist When did this Jesus supposedly state this?
If animals didn’t suffer they’d say why would god make us suffer and nothing else. If animals suffer, It’s why does that help us. It’s consistency. It’s reinforcing the idea that suffering is real and can be overcome. It enforces that that the world is unfair but god is.
Nonsense.
Tell that to the babies suffering from Leukaemia. They just need to overcome it and find god. Or is it a worthy punishment for the sins of their parents? I thought evolution was brutal, but your version of Christianity is so much worse!!
2 messengers from god ❤❤
For goodness to exist, evil must be dealt with. Otherwise Good is evil and evil is gooo. They must coexist
Evil is a lack of goodness. Goodness is not a lack of anything.
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Amen
God doesn't condemn us to hell or send us to hell...we do that to ourselves if we choose not to listen and obey our Father.
That's correct. People choose to sin and follow the broad path.
God is not a moral monster 😮
God is compassionate, gracious, and full of love ❤
God cares for people as if they are his own children.
God hears the cries of people who are suffering.
God feels for people who have been broken by the world.
God offers forgiveness to people who have rebelled.
God heals people who are brokenhearted.
God comforts people who are afflicted.
Psalm 86:15: God is compassionate, gracious, and slow to anger
Isaiah 30:18: God longs to be gracious and show compassion to people
Psalm 145:8-9: God is gracious, compassionate, and slow to anger
Psalm 147:3: God heals people who are brokenhearted
Matthew 14:13-14: Jesus has compassion on a crowd and heals their sickness.
Cherry picking the parts you want to believe and ignoring the parts that don't conveniently fit with your world view.
Stuart & Cliffe should get on TBN & Daystar TV Networks for a 30 minute show. Some of the preachers on there are so bland and monotonous. You guys have a speacial ministry in Connecticut
2:30 Again more LIES. Dude LITERALLY shamed him using LIES & false morality.
The existence of evil and suffering is not an argument against God. This is just assuming they understand God’s Plan and they know there is no other, better way. Free Will is required for love, therefore suffering is required. We see what happens when there is no concept of evil and darkness in the story of the Garden of Eden. Men will always want to create god in their image, and accepting that we are created in God’s Image requires being humbled.
Maybe not but the existence of evil and suffering is an argument against an all loving God and that's the point.
If there is no other, better way then God is clearly not all knowing and powerful either as he sets the rules by which these things occur.
Free will is not required for love. Most people claiming to be religious 'love' god through the desire for heaven and fear of eternal damnation after death. True love would not require these bribes and threats to illicit it.
"Men will always want to create god in their image" - agreed and that is how we came to get religion in the first place, through man's creation.
Who designed the designer? If the answer is no one then that conclusion defeats the entire argument.
No not if there's an undesigned designer or an uncreated creator.
By definition a God cannot be created. If God created time that means he has no beginning. He's eternal, he transcends space, time and matter.
@@jedition5618 Equally if a universe contains all of space and time, then it is eternal and infinite, which it may well be.
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The professor talking knows that he is been watch so he wants to keep it in the "status Quo" sort of speaking, he is a part time Christian at most!.He doesn't wants to compromise, he things there's no hell and no judgement!
Creation has a beginning!
Not if the universe is eternal (and we don't know that it isn't).
@@seantaylor4095 Everything points to that it isn't.
@@midimusicforever Tell me what point's to it not? If the universe contains all of space and time, then by definition nothing can exist before or outside of it, making it eternal and infinite. If time moving forward is defined by the characteristics of universal entropy, then the early quantum universe would have had no mass and therefore no increase in entropy meaning it was timeless (eternal).
The fact is we don't know anything for certain, but we shouldn't assume the supernatural as the starting default position.
God came from nothing?
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@@seantaylor4095 But that's the issue, time and space itself seems to have a beginning. Thus the cause of time and space to begin must be something independent of time and space.
I hate talking bad, but that philosophy professor claiming to be a Christian is scary with his beliefs.
Pray for him. Fron his answers, it sounds like he's still got a lot to work out, though he's got the basics. Guess what? We ALL need that type of prayer in our lives. The longer we live for Christ is the longer we can see we all have a lot to work out. Thankful God is merciful and gracious enough to us to allow us the room to work other theological doctrine and such out.
@@superquad7I agree, even there are atheists that don't believe in God, but they like him or they prefer to live a Cristhian life, but yeah as a Christian we should live our life, if we believe in Christ to glorify God. God bless you
@superquad7 amen and you're right. I just think it's dangerous telling an atheist that you can believe whatever you want because God is too loving to send anyone to hell. I shall pray for him.
There are as many different interpretations of Christianity as there are Christians. That's because it is a human construct designed to show people what they want to see. If there are bits you don't like, you just pick a different denomination (and then pronounce that that is the only truth!!)
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Time doesn't create, time only measures moments
If the universe contains all of space and time, then nothing exists before or outside of it. Therefore the universe is eternal and infinite.
16:05 there the knechtle stance then u know its lock in time
1:35 Yes, that is a cop-out. Because he's copying exactly what theists do. He's making up an explanation for something we don't understand. No one believes anything came from nothing. Something like energy can be eternal and mecessary, no god needed.
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One of the best episodes. As I'm getting older (64), I lean towards aniliationinsm but I can't be certain. I don't believe in universalism, that’s for sure.
I believe that God doesn't want the bad things to happen in life. God can't stop it. The people who commit despicable things probably don't have God in their lives. And if they do they have it twisted. God wants a relationship with everyone. He believes there is good in all. Even those that do wrong and sin. I have turned my life around , and i have repented for my sins.
I feel like they wanted to figure out what happens to the bad and perception was added for hell. But what do I know. I do get confused of scripture alot.
2:00 none of those things are immaterial. We don't have evidence for anything immaterial and we do have evidence those things are material.
Is this going to be live?
Nope. Maybe one day
May I say to you the Puritans had a tremendous influence at the start of this country. And one thing they was big on was the sovereignty of God. We don't get to decide if we are born, we don't get to pick our parent or how they raise us, if they're rich or not. He didn't even ask me if I wanted to be a male or female, But Hes God and he is Right. This is His universe if you don't like it leave and go create your own universe.
I think you'll find the start of your country was preceded by the indigenous native americans that you decided to slaughter in the name of God. So maybe you should give back what you stole and go find your own country...
I think he got too lost on the idea that HE decides what is Good, but it is God that decides what is Good. I think people that do that, don't want to believe the contrary, so they stick with that. It's resentment to the possibility. It's why people will deny God exists outright (to begin with).
"it is God that decides what is "Good" - so without religion you would have no idea that murder, theft, etc were wrong? That is the logical implication of outsourcing your morality.
Is it good that my aunt Lisa decided what is truly good?
@@jasonnoble7302 We would need more evidence of the moral integrity of Aunt Lisa. But if she didn't give Leukaemia to babies, she's already one up on God!
In my understanding it’s not God who is condemning a person to hell, it is this person not choosing to believe in eternal life and live separate from God that the consequence of his way will be eternal death. To think a good God condemning people to hell indeed is a difficult thought to accept yet it’s not like this, we choose whether we follow Christ and the path to life or we choose not to follow which means no eternal life. No eternal life has a name.
If a hostage taker looks after their hostages really well giving them everything they want as long as they do as he says, but kills them if they try to leave, is the hostage taker 'good'? After all, no harm will come to anyone if his orders are obeyed.
The point people miss is that the hostage taker (and God) both set the rules of the game here. Can it be said that any hostage follows the rules through free will?
Stuart is FUNNY...indeed his name shows it, stuART and he does have an ART to his Apologetics. Games & Theory Apologetics, founder ME...yay!!!! LOL
We appreciate that you are passionate about your faith and your desire to share it with others. However, we find your approach to be somewhat problematic. When you come to us with your strong beliefs without providing other viewpoints, it feels coercive and manipulative, especially considering that many of us undergrads are still exploring our own beliefs and may not be as well-versed in religious discussions.
It's important for us to have a balanced understanding of different perspectives. If you truly want to encourage open dialogue, I believe it would be more fair to include other voices-such as atheists, agnostics, or representatives from other religions-who can present their beliefs as articulately as you do. This way, we can all engage in a respectful and meaningful dialogue, making informed choices rather than feeling pressured to adopt a single perspective.
I think it’s essential to respect everyone's journey, and that means acknowledging the diversity of beliefs rather than pushing one agenda. Thank you for considering this.
Is a healthy different perspective one where 2+2=5? Do you have to do the hard work to think then do in order to breathe in and breathe out, and if not you will die?
There is no such thing as "everyone's journey" in the individualist context, because it is logically (and scientifically) impossible. There is an incredible intertwined collective journey all beings (including God) are on. Does that make sense?
@@mlwilliams4407what makes sense is our reply comes off like completely ignoring what was said
@ The response is to the foundation of what was said. It's pointless to address an obvious home who's improvement is only possible with a healthier foundation.
@ the foundation being?
Is there a correct and incorrect foundation?
@ The human's current state of being.
The foundation is the current point on a healthy/unhealthy scale.
Correct/incorrect is the house.
Hi, I recently watched a guy who claims that the god in the old testament is the devil and it shows a few prooves, Im confused now and I'd like to know what cliff thinks about it, his name is morgue, you can find his video on yt just by typping "morgue god is the devil" I hope you see this comment because im really confused rn and as a christian Idk what to think anymore
Read books on evolutionary biology and you'll discover it's all mythology.
Seton Hall please!
Having answers simply means you believe scripture as suffice and and axiom for truth and the afterlife 🔵✨✝️
GOD choose you, before you said yes!
23:29 Yo that's nuts
3:50 Free will can't be explained under materialism. And it can't be explained with magic either. Even if our actions are in some part supernatural, that magic stuff must be caused and determined by something or else it's completely random
It is not compatible with the christian god. If it is truly random, it is not free will.
@vladtheemailer3223 well it must be either random or determined by something. And if it's determined, it's not free. So are you agreeing free will is impossible?
Why does free will have to be explained? This Christian mythology does provide an explanation either.
@TheoSkeptomai3 yeah I don't think it can be explained by any worldview. What people usually mean by "free will" seems to be impossible because our will is either going to be determined by something, or determined by nothing (completely random), both of which are not free
@@spooky6902 It may well be impossible. In my opinion, it doesn't exist.
What's the point of Jesus sacrificing His life if there's no Hell to avoid after death?
You talk as if either or both of those statements are true. I can always make up an answer to answer a made up question, it doesn't prove either of them are real.
@seantaylor4095 what I said is real. I'm not just talking. If you can't figure that out then that's on you
@@rickbridge1414 No, you are just talking. Again, a statement with no proof. I could say that hobbits are real because it says so in the Lord of the Rings and if you can't figure that out then it's on you, but that isn't evidence or proof is it? That would just be me talking.
This prof has so many doubts that I wonder if he will remain a Christian, busy talking himself out of following God. Few of his thoughts are actually based on any scripture at all.
That's the danger when you start to apply critical thinking to a problem, you start to discover the truth behind the BS.
I can't believe that guy's an actual professor and can't even understand and comprehend basic written language
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what does cliffe have to say about evolution and the bible - adam and eve?
i think he believes in both.
He believes in evolution as a process, not origin
@@sometimesteach if he knew anything about evolution he'd know it does not claim that it has anything to do with the origins of life, this is basic highschool stuff.
@@bonnie43ukhe knows that, but sometimes students say they don’t believe in God because of evolution and then he explains this
Stuart really need to get off that coffee... He come out too hard on people sometime
I try not to think poorly of anyone who steps up to talk. I try to be respectful. But this guy has no business being a professor. There have been students who step up to these conversations who can at least articulate their own thoughts. This guy just spams words without thinking about them and then claims it’s coherent.
How can God not have made evil? He created all things, but he didnt create evil? Didnt God plan out everything?
Evil was made when lucifer rebelled against god, the same way we rebell against him and sin
@EnriqueEsparza-u1e How convenient. You couldn't make it up (oh, except that someone did.....)
@seantaylor4095 Yes, sin mas created but not by god
@EnriqueEsparza-u1e So how do you square that with the statement that God was the creator of everything? There are 3 options, 1) he could be all good but fallible (not all knowing), 2) he could be all knowing but maleficent (not all loving) or 3) he doesn't exist. Nothing else is logically plausible.
@seantaylor4095 when we say god created everything, we are talking about the universe and earth, life etc. He exists outside our reality. Before god created the universe he had already existed in another place. The values of good and evil had already been decided by god before the creation of the physical universe. When genesis talks about god creating everything, its talking about our physical universe.
23:05 he's misquoting scripture it doesn't say that salvation will come for all, it says "many" not "all" and it says they will come to salvation by Jesus Christ, Romans 5:15 look it up and see for yourself
In the end there is only Christ 🎉
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When?
So I'm confused who goes to hell? If this guy believes in Jesus and has faith. Does he still go to hell based on certain factors?
Are you asking seriously? Or being facetious? I am seriously asking you this question. Not trying to be a jerk. Because we can have this discussion if you are serious about it.
Having faith means trusting 100% percent that Jesus took the punishment for your sins. Not 50%, not 99%, a 100%. Meaning, nothing you can do, no physical action or good deed will grant you salvation, only Jesus. (Romans 3:19-20 and Romans 3:23-24) Now, it doesn't mean we can just sin freely because Jesus covers me, no. That wouldn't be true faith. True faith, with time, produces fruit - good works. If you're genuine in your faith and let God work on your heart, you will naturally turn from sin, not to gain salvation, but because you're thankful for what Jesus has already done. Christians still sin, don't get me wrong. We don't become sinless, but we do sin less with time. To finish, Romans 8:1-2. I hope I answered your question. If you need clarification, don't hesitate to ask. One last word of advice, check everything with the Bible.
@davep9910 I've read the books of the gospels and I'm in proverbs. And thank you for your wise input. I trust jesus and I stopped alot of my sinful habits and I strive everyday to learn from the teachings but I'm stuck on making sure I'm doing what I need to for me to go to heaven I feel I'm missing somethjng
@Nate-pc9ox I'm being genuine I read my Bible and pray. I daily try to turn from sin and be more loving and helpful, but the context of the bible has a lot of dos and donts and different ideas of how to be. And I want to do good in God's eyes not my own, but what if what I'm doing is not enough or wrong is my real question.
@@zachmiller4094 Hey, glory to God. As for making sure you're doing the right things, best example I've heard would be: Let's say you put your trust in Jesus and that He took all of the punishment for your sins, but you end up doing five more sins the next day and die right after. Do you still go to Heaven? If your trust in Jesus remained unchanged until the end, then yes. Hebrews 3:14 "For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end."
Also, again, we can't really do anything to fix the sins we've already commited. It is purely by God's grace that we're saved. Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
I'd recommend watching a few streams from Ryan on NeedGod.net channel. He answers difficult questions with scripture and explains it very clearly. He's also doing viewer chats if you're up for a lengthy discussion
I'm trying to figure out the sermon on the mount, none of it's factual in reality but as the evidence points to Christianity
Wait so the first guy was a follower of Christ the whole time??
Hades the place of the dead, departed spirits, Sheol is the same, Grave or the Pit, or Tartarus and actual Hell which is not Hades.
can we set up a mass evangelist event or whatever you would call it im so tired of trying to make the people i love around me or convince them why we shouldn't be doing bad things and before i can even mention christ they shut me down then i end up at least blurting it out in a argument that has started i feel like some thing like this would show people that there's something far beyond our understanding that will benefit all of us in a positive way and i aint leaving these people by there self's they need this and i love them but the people im around is as far as you can get they have no jesus and no god and if they were to die they would just laugh in the face of god and tell god to send them to hell and i feel like its like this way for a lot of people i think that this would show how much Jesus can change for people and how it benefits them and personally ill go to the extreme i just want change to happen by peoples free will and it never happens for me im just beat down mentally and rarely physically i just want to show people on a large scale how this will change there life's because small numbers for them are not enough i know that cliffe prolly wont comment on this but others might i need help from others but i really want a mass evangelist event to happen and i will be there from start to finish and im 100% sure god will love it please comment for help for how to get this started or if you want to be in or just a different way to approach the people i love its getting to a point im out of ideas PS: Im copying and pasting this to youtubers i watch cuase i need answers please help
You clearly feel passionately about this, but have you ever considered that there might be an alternative view?
@@seantaylor4095 mabey but it always has to do with christ hes the1st person it has to be about becuase without him idk what do or how to act or anything really
If you're going to say the beginning needs a beginner, then who created the beginner? So God existed all alone in nothingness for billions of years?
That's a good point. The universe could have existed forever, and it just so happens to be that a couple billion years ago, all matter was collapsed to a point. Or even better, maybe is that the only reason why we see a redshift the the observable universe is because there has only been a local explosion in the universe, and after a long time we will be able to start seeing galaxies way further than we realized. Either way, you have to admit that we don't know, and it would be naive to say that god doesn't exist just because we have no evidence of him existing. Both sides require evidence.
God is the uncaused cause. He is outside of space and time. Everything that has a beginning has a cause. The universe BEGAN around 13.8 billion years ago. Therefore, if the universe began, the universe has a cause. God doesn't need a cause because he never had a beginning, he is outside of time.
Your question is flawed from the very beginning and I almost guarantee you don't really want the answer. You just want to throw jabs. But I'll give you one. Anything that HAS a beginning must have a cause. Because time, space and matter clearly have a beginning there must be a cause that is in itself not made of time, space and matter thats what we call GOD. Because God has no beginning he doesn't need a cause. He is the uncaused first cause. Thats the simplest way I can put it to make you understand.
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God coming from nothingness follows your argument
And therefore your equivocating argument fails to be valid
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Why can’t the universe come from nothing just like the Christian God ?
Your argument is faulty
This guy wants Charles Manson & all historical psychos to be in his house in heaven, especially to meet his pregnant wife.
Even Nothingness is God Himself.
Support that please
You choose whether or not to be in relationship with God. He offers that to everyone freely.
He can't be in relationship with someone who refuses Him.
Only it's not really a free choice though is it. It comes with the promise of eternal salvation if you do and eternal damnation if you don't. Much as an emperor can't be in a relationship with a slave girl if she refuses him to much the same end.
@seantaylor4095 That's one perspective. My perspective is different, but maybe it's because I gave the relationship a try.
@@robertmay7674 If that works for you then great. It's not the lack of effort that would be the stumbling block for me, it's the lack of evidence. It wouldn't matter how many times I read Lord of the Rings I still wouldn't be able to bring myself to believe in hobbits unless I met one face to face. For me extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
This guy needs to spend more time in the word and less time in a woke mind brainwashing business of college as a “professor’ and come to know the God that he professes to believe in while spouting anti-God statements. I sure hope these two spent some time with him after this video was filmed and got him back on the right track!! God bless!
Soli Deo Gloria~
Compatabalism is biblical. Genesis 50:20
If u think god wouldn’t send people to hell u clearly don’t remember the god from the Old Testament or have read it.
Stuart says "If you're an atheist you have to explain how everything came from nothing", no such explanation is necessary, it's perfectly ok to say truthfully "I do not know", as an atheist, I have no idea how it happened, it's beyond the scope of my knowledge. No scientist has been able to explain it fully. Atheism is merely having a lack of belief in God. It could be argued that every Christian is an atheist in regards to all other beliefs as they don't believe they exist. We just go one God more and disbelieve your God.
Hello Bonnie. I think you have a misunderstanding, science can not tell us everything. The second point is you don't live like that, you may say I don't know, but you better decide and get intouch with reality. The Idea that Christianity is believing in one more God is very silly Idea. There is a vast difference than saying there is no god, and believing the evidence of Jesus. Christianity is based on historical evidence, atheism is a theory. Try that with your spouse, say I'm really a Batchelor married to one more woman than the guy who is an unmarried Batchelor. It is nonsense.
The Gospel according to Ricky Gervais! 😂 I agree. The burden of proof is on the claim of God not the disproof.
@seantaylor4095 using the same reasoning ,also it is on the one who says their is no god, or atheist.
@ I cannot speak for seantaylor, but as regards myself, I'm not making the certain claim that "their is no God", it's my assertion, that the evidence shown to me, is not sufficient. While I am happy to accept you find the evidence sufficient, i do not. As I mentioned often enough in these comments, it would not take much to convince me otherwise. I'm not demanding that God perform a miracle in front of me. But verifiable proof of a miracle would do it, eg: How easy would it be for God/Jesus to completely heal Stevie Wonder of his blindness denton, how wonderful would that be?
@@dentonhahn2907 The semantics here are important but you are assuming all atheists are gnostic atheists, whereas most are agnostic atheists. Saying there is no god, is the definition of an gnostic atheist (a minority subset of atheists do hold this view).The correct definition of an atheist in general is the agnostic atheist view which is not believing the assertion that there is a god.
The distinction is equivalent to saying 'I don't believe that we know that life exists beyond earth', (agnostic) compared to 'I know for a fact that life doesn't exist beyond earth' (gnostic), They are 2 very different statements. So yes, if someone states definitively 'there is no god' then they have just as much burden of proof as those who says there is.
I'm sorry that "if God made Torture Tuesdays" was such a dumb argument
"The Sovereign Father is the Creator of the Universe and Creator of All Humans in the World" however Neurons in a Human Brain is roughly equivalent to the number of Stars in the Milky Way Galaxy which is estimated to be 100 Billion....... The Lord Jesus Christ is the Only Living GOD..............
Matthew 7:7-8 ESV
[7] “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. [8] For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened."
If you are SINCERE in your desire to find truth and you don't settle for things that tickle the ear or reinforce your presuppositions (priors), there is only one place you will end your journey: the foot of the cross of Jesus Christ, the Son of Man, Son of God, the one whom through all things that have been created, were created. God who dwelt among us. He who knew no sin became sin ans bore our inequities on the cross so that we might become HIS righteousness. ✝️ Jesus is Lord. He is my king. My savior. My God.
The philosophy teacher probably not the best Evangelist but the scripture is true all in Adam die all in Christ will be made alive. Cliff said its only those of faith the problem with that is faith is a gift it doesn’t come from man its a pure act of God. God gives the person grace by giving them the gift to believe in Christ. So God chooses who will be saved in this dispensation others will have to experience Hell. Hell is part of the design in making man into Gods image and likeness. Gods Character is good he teaches us to love our enemies pray for those who use us. To create human beings and not grant them the gift of faith to be saved by Christ in this life and then torture forever is not Gods character. Cliff is coming from a bias.
No, Jesus is the only way to Heaven. God did not choose who goes to Heaven and Hell, each individual person chooses their destination. A gift is only a gift if the recipient chooses to accept it.
This first guy is confusing as it gets good lord
More fruitless debate; why don't these guys work a real job?! With "social" skills as they have, they should be in the classrooms actually teaching students something instead of continually engaging in sophistry with egomaniacal exposure and personal enrichment their ends!
If it's fruitless to you, that's exposing one of likely many extremely important opportunities for growth for you. Do you get road rage? Do you see the value in classical, country, hip-hop, top 40, and so on music? Do you happily pay taxes because of being thankful to be a citizen where you currently live?