Tom, Thank you for doing what you do. You have educated me with all of your content and often tell people to check out your videos. I can’t wait for your videos on charging at home. I picked up my Lightning on June 3rd and installed the CSP July 3rd. Getting some weird errors and opened ticket with Ford but they seem to be struggling. Wondering if you have any issues and/or tweaks. Thanks again Tom. BTW..I am in South Jersey
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney the CSP when charging. I’ve seen “station overheated” “your charger is coming down. try again later”. This is seen in the CSP
@@anthonyR9768 This appears to be a rampant issue if you use the max 80A. Don't have to be in a hot climate or hot ambient environment. Seems like a design issue - maybe Tom will run into it if he can install on a 100A circuit. As a workaround, people are having success by turning down the max charge amps with the rotary switch or the app. Will be interesting to see if Ford / Sunrun can come up with an actual fix. Otherwise this isn't an 80A EVSE as it is presently behaving with the necessary de-rating.
Great test. Love the fact that Tom ordered day 1 and waited his turn to take delivery. Unlike another TH-camr we all know that got his Rivian ahead everyone else. Great channel Tom!!
I was lucky enuff to met this guy in Macon, GA at a charge station. Very nice guy and very helpful! I am new EV owner and still learning. Tyvan the KiaEV6 dude! =)
I'd be curious how much range drops off at 75 MPH. Most of the interstates here in Florida are 70 MPH and I set my ICE F150 to 75 and with a 36 gallon take I've gotten over 700 miles out of it many times and average around 630-650 combined. Any chance you'd run a test at 75?
Always giving Ford and other legacy autos the full benefit of the doubt. When the range on the Tesla did not meet the EPA estimate, you showed so much disappointment. Can't have it both ways.
You can tell how amazingly quiet this pick up truck is. I am envious of you Tom. One point, wouldn't the mileage go up as the charge depletes? Since the truck technically would be "lighter"... ah just messin ' with ya. Great report!
I’m looking for the ultimate isolation / relaxation hwy cruiser and this seems like a candidate. I wonder how it compares to other luxury EVs. Recently test drove the rivian and was surprised by the loud wind noise. Overall, it was not as quiet as my Ioniq 5.
I know you were just kidding but technically, the electrons only moved from the negative to the positive side of the batteries, so the weight would stay the same.
@@Resist4 May not be lighter, but, the smell of unicorns softly sighing as you move Ford electrons while you float down the road.... or at least not smelling exhaust blowing back at you sometimes!
Great video...going to subscribe yo see what else you do with the F150 Lightning :) I live watching these range tests. The range test I want to see is how far will the f150 lightning go on a $20 fast charge vs $20 gas fill of a f150 ICE.
You make me laugh because you talk with both your hands "off" the steering wheel! Thanks for the video. Okay, I stand corrected, I see that you are using Blue Cruise :)
Great review. So the average driver will get between 230 to 250 miles of range as they will not drive to zero state of charge. So how are people having to pay again for that extended battery? Most are sticking with the smaller battery because of the costs. When to make videos for the charging station please let us know how much you paid for that charger and how much it costs to have it installed without the family/friend discount. It’s important for people to know the truth about the cost to own and operate this truck. You have the price of the truck, the price of the charging station, the price for installing the charging station, and the cost to use a public charging station after free charging runs out.
I remember in Kyle‘s video when that tone happened he did an immediate U-turn and somebody chined in the comments that the Mach-e has a similar indicator that gives you not much time to react. Yes you had less than a mile left of driving. Congratulations and I look forward to you drop testing your EVSE 🤭 and the charge pro installation. I couldn’t be happier unless it was me‼️
This was a very good test. I'm sure a little extra wind resistance would also effect the mileage range.just a.04 miles/kWh more and 280 mile range would've been achieved, which could've easily been obtained with a little tail wind.
Great Job Tom. I’ve had my Lightning for 2 weeks. My pro charger for my Lariat x battery came 2 days ago! I already have the hardware for the Home Integration System. I’m having all of it installed 7/21!
Lots of issues starting to pop up online with the Ford Charge Station Pro and 80A charging. The EVSE keeps shutting down for overheating. To solve, people have had to set the charge rate lower. Curious to see if you have the same issue when you get to installing yours. Hopefully you will be able to use the full 80A to test with your home electrical.
Outstanding test Tom, thank you. I’m amazed you are able to shoot the video, narrate it so smoothly, run calculations in your head, and safely drive at 70 mph on the NJ Turnpike. Is all of this done in “one-take”? It would take me at least 10 and the quality far less.
Well done! Great use of summary overlay graphics and compressing the the video length perfectly (I watch at x1.75). End results were excellent for the vehicle shape and speed.
super jazzed for this Tom, except now I'm way antsy. My lightning is building this week, and praying they have trucks coming thru s. dakota as I know yours sat in the yard a long while for a truck heading to Jersey! also good to see you doing the full monty at your house on the charging and v to g stuff, will be priceless info for us civilians and no doubt for ford. Bless them for jumping into ele game as quick as they did, coulda pulled a gm and sat on their hands even longer than they have. anyhow, thanks for all you do with lekky vehicles! btw, still lol about your aunt with the nuts!!!
You went farther than I thought you would. Highway driving in an EV is one of the least efficient ways to drive an EV. Get that miles per KWH to 2.5 and you got 321 miles. I’ve seen these trucks in person and they are certainly impressive. And they can actually be cheaper than the gas models depending on how you equip them… Now if they will just make my Maverick Hybrid that I’ve been waiting over a year for…
Hybrids are kind of fun, too. I still have an 2009 Escape Hybrid, and the 2021 F150 Hybrid. Becomes kind of game to see how much you can get it to use the electric battery/motor. In a way, when my LIghtning comes, I will miss that... but not much! Then the game will be how much miles I can squeeze per charge with regen.
I think the biggest issue/factor people ignore is the wind resistance that occurs at higher speeds.. you drive that Lightning at 65mph and I’m sure you’ll get closer to your 2.5m/kw maybe even close to 3.. I got my Bolt battery replaced and drove from Las Vegas to Ventura and needed just two quick stops to charge .. Topography and climate then speed
270.3 miles real range done mostly at 70mph versus 283 miles (EPA Highway)/324miles (EPA) .....truly impressive...i'll bet hypermiling this car would be fun
It's like $35 every time I do a range test. I'd like to do it on a road without tolls, but it's really the only relatively flat course near me that I can maintain 70 mph on for a long distance. I'd love to do it on Rt80, but there are too many long inclines & declines.
I'm getting the Hummer EV dual motor next year as my first EV. I hired an electrician to punch through the garage wall of our home to run the wire and conduit, but I hard wired my own charger (48 amp Emporia). Also just installed a NEMA 1450 on the side of my cabin... but the panel up there is easy to get to so I will also install a hard wired charger up there myself in the garage, as well. Glad you are enjoying your Lightning. Not a Ford guy myself but it seems to be a pretty decent EV truck.
Loved it Tom! We in Australia won't get this truck but hopefully will get it's smaller sibling the Ranger and heard yesterday from Nikki that it sounds like Ford will be coming out with the Maverick & Ranger Lightning editions for overseas markets. Cannot wait to see your other tests you will be doing with your new F150 Lightning. :)
That's nice range. I'll be curious what the winter range is. It would be great if they could make them more efficient as 2.1 in the summer is bad for most EVs, but it makes sense for a pickup truck.
Tom Gratz on your new truck. Thank God you didn't get that ugly blue color that everyone is getting. These early truck test are setting up the standard atm at what is expected in these early days of electric PU. Comparing them to car stats is all we have atm though. Enjoy your truck and I look forward to seeing more of it.
Well, I had a Reservation in on one a these also, I thought pretty early too. However, I musta been down on the List for Ordering when it opened up, cause I was NEVER contacted by anyone to Place an Order.... So, I Cancelled that order and my Cyber Truck Order also. Ordered an F-150 Platinum, to this Day all i've heard it is we have removed this, and that, and this, and that. So I hunted one down and went and purchased it, V6 Twin Turbo LARIAT "LOADED" to the HILT. 36 Gallon Tank with Near 500 MILES of Range. "O" Well. so much for going GREEN. Great Video Tom. Appreciate the Drive and Charge portion. Nice TRUCK. Hopefully It hold's up and does well for ya.
This is awesome! I just got a model 3 and your channel has been the most informative about charging and battery usage and info. Thanks! I am also thinking about letting my 2021 raptor go and getting a lighting. Congrats on the Truck!!!
I’m so glad you have your own Lightning so I‘ll get to see lots of content on it. I have a Antimatter Blue Lariat on order but no build date. I was one of the lucky few that got a call from my dealership with an offer to place an order during Ford’s ‘cleanup’ order window. I’m really interested in the home charging part. I’m not going to be able to dedicate 100 amps to the charger but 50 may be possible. The pro charger can be de-rated with an internal switch I believe. Thanks for the great content.
Dave, what was the end result of your 50amp breaker home charging? My Tesla will only pull 30amps on a 50amp 240v home charger. About 22miles of ranger per hour. How is yours doing?
Tom your content and perspective is second to none. I too have a Cybertruck "reservation" but glad I backed it up with a Ford Lighting first night reservation, for which now I've an order number (but no date yet). I am particularly watching and waiting for an integrated home solar solution that will specifically power the large Ford EV battery WHEN THE GRID IS DOWN, so the truck can power the house. Also, I like how you balance Alex out when you two converse. Entertaining and informative.
you and i are in the same boat. order number but no build date yet (i have a platinum trim spec'd). and the massaging seats have been deleted on the order, as of now, so that stinks. i hope Ford can come through and that is why they are holding off with firming up a build date. part of me now wishes i had spec'd a lariat !
@@evquietcornerct3210 Mine is the lariat w/ extended battery (much like Tom's). How can they delete the massaging seats on you? Thought that was one of the real benefits of the platinum. When my local Ford called me they said, "It's the lariat or nothing at this point. We aren't getting any choice in models at this point." The dealer has rec'd only two so far. One was the vehicle they have to keep for show for 6 months. One to their first in line customer. Supposedly I'm number 15 ... I'm hoping for this fall. I did get to test drive it and my short drive only made me want it more!
@@BB-lx7os the seats are a delete item now, per the lightning forum boards. Ford went in and changed the orders themselves. when i look at my order i can see that they are deleted. on ICE truck trims that include them you can't order the truck without acknowledging that you won't get them. rumor has it Ford is prioritizing components for lightning builds, but removing the option on the build sheets "to schedule production faster". the credit you get ? $300. yeah, $300. totally stinks. now, i am hoping that the delays are to await parts, and the trucks will have the seats when built. there are conflicting views on this. only time will tell. it is also controversial as there are ICE truck orders that could have been put in before lightning orders, and they are not getting the seats and being passed over for lightning production, if true. there may very well be a bunch of platinums out there in the 2022 MY that don't have them. my dealer has only received their mannequin, and no customer deliveries yet. i think i am #2 on their list, not 100% certain, but there is no expected build date for me that i can see.
Looking forward to the winter range test. You have heated seats? Heated steering? It would be good to do winter range with and without heated steering and heated seats.
Another great video, Tom. - Since you will be creating a lot of F-150 Lightning content, I think you need to start each of these videos with you popping out of the frunk! 😉
Can you guys do a side by side 70mph range test between the F150 Lightening and Cybertruck? I'd like to see the same exact conditions, terrain, temp, etc. and see the efficiency numbers of each.
My F-150 got about 21 to 22 Mi per gallon on a 36 gallon tank I used to get almost 800 miles of range. I'm sorry but this is pathetic. It just is. Electric vehicles are not ready for prime time yet they still have 20 or 30 years to go yet and if you do supercharging a lot like on the road it's about the same cost for "fuel" yet I get three times the range with gasonline.
Great video, Tom. I had been eagerly waiting for this range test. I am curious to hear your thoughts (so far) on the maneuverability of the F-150 versus the Rivian you recently drove. Does it feel bigger when you are parking and getting around town or is it not very noticeable?
Definitely bigger, but overall the size while driving down the road isn't that much... But parking, u-turns would be notably different. the Rivian turn radius is notably better than the F150.
I don't think this would have bothered your test but have you noted the difference between the "Normal" and "Sport" mode? I test drove a pro and with 1-pedal off and I found that the regen in Sport mode seemed very present in comparison. It felt like the difference between "Whisper" and "Engage" in the Mach E. However Lightning Sport mode was more aggressive than Engage.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Did you have any conversations with their engineers about the difference in the mapping? Why did they choose that in Sport? Why didn't they allow for adjustable regen? Just seems like I should drive mine around in Sport all the time.
I should be getting my Pro in the next few weeks. How long after production did you truck arrive at the dealer? According to the specs from Ford, the extended range gets 409 Watts per mile (131,000 watts/320 miles) and the standard range gets 426 watts per mile (98,000 watts/230 miles) Thats a 3 to 4 % worse mileage on the standard range battery which is lighter by 2 to 3 humanoids. TFL has the truck weights at 6590 for the base extended vs 6171 for the base standard range. The difference is 419 pounds.....That should result in better mileage for the standard range battery not carrying around that extra 419 lbs....Am I missing something here? When I get my truck I will update you on the watts/mile.
I found with my 2023 Lariat extended range Lightning it needs to do about 2.2 efficiency to match the EPA range. That is about 65 miles per hour on the highway.
Misleading! On an EV no driver will want less than 15% state of charge left over to whatever destination. I get anxiety if my EV predicts less than 20%. Also to keep the battery happy I don’t charge to 100%, just 90%. That leaves a useable range of 75% which in this video would come out to 202 miles of range. Also, no one drives 70. If you drive 75 to 80 your range will decrease exponentially below 202 miles. The biggest problem with the Lightening is it’s a barn door pushing through the wind. High speed range is not good.
The current 1st generation lithium batteries are just not cutting it for road trips. At the risk of sounding like a broken record - the EV auto industry really needs the next generation battery technology ASAP (solid state?). I need a pickup that I can haul my kayaks and mountain bikes, and all my gear, and up to 4 guys and have 350+ miles of range.
Obviously the Miles / kWh got better later in the test. . . carrying fewer electrons as the battery was depleted!!!! On a more serious note, I do wonder how much juice Bluecruise uses & what the range would be if not using it??
Enjoy your vids Tom. A bit curious about your mixing SI units with old English imperial units … miles per kWh? A bit confusing as the US mile is also less than the English mile. Which old mile are you using? Just a dig carry on.
The difference in wind resistance between 55 mph and 70 mph is quite large on any vehicle much less a pickup truck that wasn't designed to be particularly aerodynamic. Keeping between 55 and 60 mph will drastically improve range.
Gosh 270 only!? That is terrible range for a country boy like me. I guess I’ll have to wait several more years until an E vehicle with serious range comes out
I been driving in Texas to Arkansas and Tennessee and Missouri area most speed on highway over here is 75 at least hopefully someone around this area do 75 mph to 80 mpg test wonder how far it will go?
Great content. Looking forward for a test with a travel trailer. 2 things I’d like to see - first, energy use (kw per mile) and total range, second - a 400 mile trip including charging - basically, how long it takes it to charge in the real world as part of a towing test (should be similar to regular test but might be different due to strain on system right after towing).
You can expect range to be cut in half or more depending on the weight you're towing. An extended range battery will charge from 15% to 80% in around 41 minutes. Everyone that has done any research on the lightning should know this vehicle is not designed for long distance towing. Nor is it designed for long distance travelers who are in a hurry to get anywhere. This is a vehicle designed, for great towing and payload capabilities, if used in your local area and you plan on charging at home.
@@pstoneking3418 I'm well aware as I've towed small and large trailers with the Model X but am still curious how the F-150 does due to it's size, weight and battery. BTW, from my own experience and looking at towing reviews (for EV and gas trucks), towing at high speeds is much more effected by the size of the trailer (it's front and volume) than the weight. Travel trailers and hauling trailers have huge fronts that act like big parachutes (or sails) that cause crazy drag and thus increase energy use dramatically and reduce range significantly (on electric and gas). Still looking forward to seeing anyone doing a travel trailer with the F-150 on a 400-500 mile trip - including the charge time.
Because Ford didn't spend the $ to build in a clutch disengagement pack for the front or rear motors like some other dual motor evs have. Maybe the next gen ground up ev lightning from blue oval city in TN around 2025 will offer that feature? 🤔
What I'm most interested in is how many kW you needed to add to get the battery back to 100%? Its great that it could go that far but if the on board charging system is not efficient then the overall miles/kW will be much less
Eventually, yes. But I need to set that up because I don't have a trailer or camper to use yet. I think the next one will be with max payload because I can arrange that easier.
Amazing imo it matches or even slightly beats the purpose built ground up ev rivian r1t in efficiency. Great job fomoco I say. Now go make hundreds of thousands of them and offer us small business owners a reg cab 6.5' rwd option for under 35k please. 😀
70mpg !!! If you driving that slow here in Louisville KY you will get run over and get you are number one !!! 80mpg is the normal speed but from 5am to 6am if you are not doing 90mph you are getting run over
Tom, Thank you for doing what you do. You have educated me with all of your content and often tell people to check out your videos. I can’t wait for your videos on charging at home. I picked up my Lightning on June 3rd and installed the CSP July 3rd. Getting some weird errors and opened ticket with Ford but they seem to be struggling. Wondering if you have any issues and/or tweaks. Thanks again Tom. BTW..I am in South Jersey
No errors yet for me - assume you mean on the truck, not the CSP, right?
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney the CSP when charging. I’ve seen “station overheated” “your charger is coming down. try again later”. This is seen in the CSP
@@anthonyR9768 This appears to be a rampant issue if you use the max 80A. Don't have to be in a hot climate or hot ambient environment. Seems like a design issue - maybe Tom will run into it if he can install on a 100A circuit. As a workaround, people are having success by turning down the max charge amps with the rotary switch or the app. Will be interesting to see if Ford / Sunrun can come up with an actual fix. Otherwise this isn't an 80A EVSE as it is presently behaving with the necessary de-rating.
@@billjohnson3344 already turned it down to 60 and I have no issues. Also charges at 30 miles per hour. I am happy with that for now.
I just did 800 miles over 2 days. 99% highway at 72MPH set CC. Average 2.1-2.2 miles per kw. Not bad.
Great test. Love the fact that Tom ordered day 1 and waited his turn to take delivery. Unlike another TH-camr we all know that got his Rivian ahead everyone else.
Great channel Tom!!
I was lucky enuff to met this guy in Macon, GA at a charge station. Very nice guy and very helpful! I am new EV owner and still learning.
Tyvan the KiaEV6 dude! =)
Hey Tyvan, it was great meeting you and thanks again!
I'd be curious how much range drops off at 75 MPH. Most of the interstates here in Florida are 70 MPH and I set my ICE F150 to 75 and with a 36 gallon take I've gotten over 700 miles out of it many times and average around 630-650 combined. Any chance you'd run a test at 75?
Always giving Ford and other legacy autos the full benefit of the doubt. When the range on the Tesla did not meet the EPA estimate, you showed so much disappointment. Can't have it both ways.
That is a sweet truck. If we ever see a pro for msrp I will have to throw my money at them.
Not bad range, but Ford overestimated ala Tesla. In winter no heat pump will hurt you.
First of all, congrats on getting your Lightning. Can't wait to order mine. Great channel
You can tell how amazingly quiet this pick up truck is. I am envious of you Tom.
One point, wouldn't the mileage go up as the charge depletes? Since the truck technically would be "lighter"...
ah just messin ' with ya.
Great report!
I’m looking for the ultimate isolation / relaxation hwy cruiser and this seems like a candidate. I wonder how it compares to other luxury EVs. Recently test drove the rivian and was surprised by the loud wind noise. Overall, it was not as quiet as my Ioniq 5.
@@Wasabi9111 By all accounts, the Cadillac Lyriq is supposed to be the quietest cruiser.
I know you were just kidding but technically, the electrons only moved from the negative to the positive side of the batteries, so the weight would stay the same.
@@Resist4 May not be lighter, but, the smell of unicorns softly sighing as you move Ford electrons while you float down the road.... or at least not smelling exhaust blowing back at you sometimes!
I have driven the Polestar2, quietest I have been in so far, quieter than the Ioniq5 I drove on the same route, the same day
its pretty fun charging a car I love doing it lol and when you learn its pattern of range you not scared to run low on battery.
Great video...going to subscribe yo see what else you do with the F150 Lightning :) I live watching these range tests. The range test I want to see is how far will the f150 lightning go on a $20 fast charge vs $20 gas fill of a f150 ICE.
You make me laugh because you talk with both your hands "off" the steering wheel! Thanks for the video. Okay, I stand corrected, I see that you are using Blue Cruise :)
I probably should have mentioned that earlier in the video - I didn't realize until I was editing it.
Great review. So the average driver will get between 230 to 250 miles of range as they will not drive to zero state of charge. So how are people having to pay again for that extended battery? Most are sticking with the smaller battery because of the costs. When to make videos for the charging station please let us know how much you paid for that charger and how much it costs to have it installed without the family/friend discount. It’s important for people to know the truth about the cost to own and operate this truck. You have the price of the truck, the price of the charging station, the price for installing the charging station, and the cost to use a public charging station after free charging runs out.
I wonder what the result would have been at 60 or 65 MPH?
I remember in Kyle‘s video when that tone happened he did an immediate U-turn and somebody chined in the comments that the Mach-e has a similar indicator that gives you not much time to react. Yes you had less than a mile left of driving. Congratulations and I look forward to you drop testing your EVSE 🤭 and the charge pro installation. I couldn’t be happier unless it was me‼️
This was a very good test. I'm sure a little extra wind resistance would also effect the mileage range.just a.04 miles/kWh more and 280 mile range would've been achieved, which could've easily been obtained with a little tail wind.
Great Job Tom. I’ve had my Lightning for 2 weeks. My pro charger for my Lariat x battery came 2 days ago! I already have the hardware for the Home Integration System. I’m having all of it installed 7/21!
What was the cost of the home integration system less installation?
Lots of issues starting to pop up online with the Ford Charge Station Pro and 80A charging. The EVSE keeps shutting down for overheating. To solve, people have had to set the charge rate lower. Curious to see if you have the same issue when you get to installing yours. Hopefully you will be able to use the full 80A to test with your home electrical.
Do you think the batteries need to be cycled so many times before you will get optimal mileage per kwh ?
Wonderful review. At the 2 year rate of Lightning production, I'll be able to compare the Silverado.
Perfect time to measure max charge rate... Hoping the next video picks up where this left off and I'll get to see that...
Not a pickup fan, but do enjoy the technology aspect. Great presentation and enjoy the genuine personality. Thanks Tom.
Outstanding test Tom, thank you. I’m amazed you are able to shoot the video, narrate it so smoothly, run calculations in your head, and safely drive at 70 mph on the NJ Turnpike. Is all of this done in “one-take”? It would take me at least 10 and the quality far less.
Thanks, John, but I'm FAR from perfect, I do multiple takes most of the time.
Always great content on your channel, and love your persona you bring to the EV world, thanks again Tom!
Congratulations Tom! I look forward to the insane amount of charging videos that will be coming our way.
Sounds like the EPA needs to start doing more honest range tests.
As a New Jerseyian, Kudos for anyone driving the NJTPK when you don't have to. Next time, come up North and we can compare Lightnings!
Well done! Great use of summary overlay graphics and compressing the the video length perfectly (I watch at x1.75). End results were excellent for the vehicle shape and speed.
super jazzed for this Tom, except now I'm way antsy. My lightning is building this week, and praying they have trucks coming thru s. dakota as I know yours sat in the yard a long while for a truck heading to Jersey! also good to see you doing the full monty at your house on the charging and v to g stuff, will be priceless info for us civilians and no doubt for ford. Bless them for jumping into ele game as quick as they did, coulda pulled a gm and sat on their hands even longer than they have. anyhow, thanks for all you do with lekky vehicles! btw, still lol about your aunt with the nuts!!!
Whenever you are doing stable driving you have to watch out for the horses.
You went farther than I thought you would. Highway driving in an EV is one of the least efficient ways to drive an EV. Get that miles per KWH to 2.5 and you got 321 miles. I’ve seen these trucks in person and they are certainly impressive. And they can actually be cheaper than the gas models depending on how you equip them…
Now if they will just make my Maverick Hybrid that I’ve been waiting over a year for…
Hybrids are kind of fun, too. I still have an 2009 Escape Hybrid, and the 2021 F150 Hybrid. Becomes kind of game to see how much you can get it to use the electric battery/motor. In a way, when my LIghtning comes, I will miss that... but not much! Then the game will be how much miles I can squeeze per charge with regen.
I think the biggest issue/factor people ignore is the wind resistance that occurs at higher speeds.. you drive that Lightning at 65mph and I’m sure you’ll get closer to your 2.5m/kw maybe even close to 3..
I got my Bolt battery replaced and drove from Las Vegas to Ventura and needed just two quick stops to charge ..
Topography and climate then speed
Wonder how efficient the regenerative braking is going down long hills. I bet every EV and hybrid have different %.
Tom, we need a 60mph test too, some of us do just below the limit, rather than above it :)
That’s great mileage for that big ass truck. 🙌
Great vid and a result for such a huge car.
I Will Follow You videos thank you
Incredible results Tom! Thank you so much!
270.3 miles real range done mostly at 70mph versus 283 miles (EPA Highway)/324miles (EPA) .....truly impressive...i'll bet hypermiling this car would be fun
how would you hyper mile an electric? shut it off? LOL
@@02hreblue30 LOL!
You must love paying tolls
It's like $35 every time I do a range test. I'd like to do it on a road without tolls, but it's really the only relatively flat course near me that I can maintain 70 mph on for a long distance. I'd love to do it on Rt80, but there are too many long inclines & declines.
I'm getting the Hummer EV dual motor next year as my first EV. I hired an electrician to punch through the garage wall of our home to run the wire and conduit, but I hard wired my own charger (48 amp Emporia). Also just installed a NEMA 1450 on the side of my cabin... but the panel up there is easy to get to so I will also install a hard wired charger up there myself in the garage, as well. Glad you are enjoying your Lightning. Not a Ford guy myself but it seems to be a pretty decent EV truck.
Loved it Tom! We in Australia won't get this truck but hopefully will get it's smaller sibling the Ranger and heard yesterday from Nikki that it sounds like Ford will be coming out with the Maverick & Ranger Lightning editions for overseas markets. Cannot wait to see your other tests you will be doing with your new F150 Lightning. :)
That's nice range. I'll be curious what the winter range is. It would be great if they could make them more efficient as 2.1 in the summer is bad for most EVs, but it makes sense for a pickup truck.
Tom Gratz on your new truck. Thank God you didn't get that ugly blue color that everyone is getting. These early truck test are setting up the standard atm at what is expected in these early days of electric PU. Comparing them to car stats is all we have atm though. Enjoy your truck and I look forward to seeing more of it.
I actually really thought about Antimatter Blue. It looks black unless you get close
In 8 years I hope you have 20 grand ready for a new battery. EVs are a scam
LOL. Keep believing that FUD.
Well, I had a Reservation in on one a these also, I thought pretty early too. However, I musta been down on the List for Ordering when it opened up, cause I was NEVER contacted by anyone to Place an Order.... So, I Cancelled that order and my Cyber Truck Order also. Ordered an F-150 Platinum, to this Day all i've heard it is we have removed this, and that, and this, and that. So I hunted one down and went and purchased it, V6 Twin Turbo LARIAT "LOADED" to the HILT. 36 Gallon Tank with Near 500 MILES of Range. "O" Well. so much for going GREEN. Great Video Tom. Appreciate the Drive and Charge portion. Nice TRUCK. Hopefully It hold's up and does well for ya.
This is awesome! I just got a model 3 and your channel has been the most informative about charging and battery usage and info. Thanks! I am also thinking about letting my 2021 raptor go and getting a lighting. Congrats on the Truck!!!
I’m so glad you have your own Lightning so I‘ll get to see lots of content on it. I have a Antimatter Blue Lariat on order but no build date. I was one of the lucky few that got a call from my dealership with an offer to place an order during Ford’s ‘cleanup’ order window. I’m really interested in the home charging part. I’m not going to be able to dedicate 100 amps to the charger but 50 may be possible. The pro charger can be de-rated with an internal switch I believe. Thanks for the great content.
Dave, what was the end result of your 50amp breaker home charging? My Tesla will only pull 30amps on a 50amp 240v home charger. About 22miles of ranger per hour. How is yours doing?
Tom your content and perspective is second to none. I too have a Cybertruck "reservation" but glad I backed it up with a Ford Lighting first night reservation, for which now I've an order number (but no date yet). I am particularly watching and waiting for an integrated home solar solution that will specifically power the large Ford EV battery WHEN THE GRID IS DOWN, so the truck can power the house. Also, I like how you balance Alex out when you two converse. Entertaining and informative.
Thank you!
you and i are in the same boat. order number but no build date yet (i have a platinum trim spec'd). and the massaging seats have been deleted on the order, as of now, so that stinks. i hope Ford can come through and that is why they are holding off with firming up a build date. part of me now wishes i had spec'd a lariat !
@@evquietcornerct3210 Mine is the lariat w/ extended battery (much like Tom's). How can they delete the massaging seats on you? Thought that was one of the real benefits of the platinum. When my local Ford called me they said, "It's the lariat or nothing at this point. We aren't getting any choice in models at this point." The dealer has rec'd only two so far. One was the vehicle they have to keep for show for 6 months. One to their first in line customer. Supposedly I'm number 15 ... I'm hoping for this fall. I did get to test drive it and my short drive only made me want it more!
@@BB-lx7os the seats are a delete item now, per the lightning forum boards. Ford went in and changed the orders themselves. when i look at my order i can see that they are deleted. on ICE truck trims that include them you can't order the truck without acknowledging that you won't get them. rumor has it Ford is prioritizing components for lightning builds, but removing the option on the build sheets "to schedule production faster". the credit you get ? $300. yeah, $300. totally stinks. now, i am hoping that the delays are to await parts, and the trucks will have the seats when built. there are conflicting views on this. only time will tell. it is also controversial as there are ICE truck orders that could have been put in before lightning orders, and they are not getting the seats and being passed over for lightning production, if true. there may very well be a bunch of platinums out there in the 2022 MY that don't have them. my dealer has only received their mannequin, and no customer deliveries yet. i think i am #2 on their list, not 100% certain, but there is no expected build date for me that i can see.
I drove mine 96 miles with a 2300 foot gain in altitude. 65 mph except for a couple 55 mph canyon curvy areas and my mi/kw was 2.0.
Looking forward to the winter range test. You have heated seats? Heated steering? It would be good to do winter range with and without heated steering and heated seats.
The regular F-150 did really well in its crash tests. How well did the Lightning fare?
YMMV - it seems like beating a dead horse - but of course, you have to say it again and again.
Another great video, Tom. - Since you will be creating a lot of F-150 Lightning content, I think you need to start each of these videos with you popping out of the frunk! 😉
Great video! It would be great Tom if you could do the same test in a Standard Range Battery to compare efficiency.
I hope to
Town and country Ford did a hwy range test on a base pro lightning. Got around 220 miles before the owner did a leveling kit&34s.
Can you guys do a side by side 70mph range test between the F150 Lightening and Cybertruck? I'd like to see the same exact conditions, terrain, temp, etc. and see the efficiency numbers of each.
that is exactly 300wh/km. Mach e had the same consumption at Bjorn ‘s winter test at around speed of 85mph
My F-150 got about 21 to 22 Mi per gallon on a 36 gallon tank I used to get almost 800 miles of range. I'm sorry but this is pathetic. It just is. Electric vehicles are not ready for prime time yet they still have 20 or 30 years to go yet and if you do supercharging a lot like on the road it's about the same cost for "fuel" yet I get three times the range with gasonline.
Great video, Tom. I had been eagerly waiting for this range test. I am curious to hear your thoughts (so far) on the maneuverability of the F-150 versus the Rivian you recently drove. Does it feel bigger when you are parking and getting around town or is it not very noticeable?
It's noticeably bigger
Definitely bigger, but overall the size while driving down the road isn't that much... But parking, u-turns would be notably different. the Rivian turn radius is notably better than the F150.
This is just amazing mindblowing and gamechanging!You did it again Ford!
I don't think this would have bothered your test but have you noted the difference between the "Normal" and "Sport" mode? I test drove a pro and with 1-pedal off and I found that the regen in Sport mode seemed very present in comparison. It felt like the difference between "Whisper" and "Engage" in the Mach E. However Lightning Sport mode was more aggressive than Engage.
Yes, Sport Mode increases the lift-off regenerative braking force.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Did you have any conversations with their engineers about the difference in the mapping? Why did they choose that in Sport? Why didn't they allow for adjustable regen? Just seems like I should drive mine around in Sport all the time.
I should be getting my Pro in the next few weeks. How long after production did you truck arrive at the dealer? According to the specs from Ford, the extended range gets 409 Watts per mile (131,000 watts/320 miles) and the standard range gets 426 watts per mile (98,000 watts/230 miles) Thats a 3 to 4 % worse mileage on the standard range battery which is lighter by 2 to 3 humanoids. TFL has the truck weights at 6590 for the base extended vs 6171 for the base standard range. The difference is 419 pounds.....That should result in better mileage for the standard range battery not carrying around that extra 419 lbs....Am I missing something here? When I get my truck I will update you on the watts/mile.
I found with my 2023 Lariat extended range Lightning it needs to do about 2.2 efficiency to match the EPA range. That is about 65 miles per hour on the highway.
Misleading! On an EV no driver will want less than 15% state of charge left over to whatever destination. I get anxiety if my EV predicts less than 20%. Also to keep the battery happy I don’t charge to 100%, just 90%. That leaves a useable range of 75% which in this video would come out to 202 miles of range. Also, no one drives 70. If you drive 75 to 80 your range will decrease exponentially below 202 miles. The biggest problem with the Lightening is it’s a barn door pushing through the wind. High speed range is not good.
The current 1st generation lithium batteries are just not cutting it for road trips. At the risk of sounding like a broken record - the EV auto industry really needs the next generation battery technology ASAP (solid state?). I need a pickup that I can haul my kayaks and mountain bikes, and all my gear, and up to 4 guys and have 350+ miles of range.
Assuming 270 miles @ 70 mph and a 131 KWh battery, that's 34 KW (~45 HP) on average out of the battery to get the truck down the road at that speed.
Now take it camping!
Obviously the Miles / kWh got better later in the test. . . carrying fewer electrons as the battery was depleted!!!!
On a more serious note, I do wonder how much juice Bluecruise uses & what the range would be if not using it??
Nice demo of Bluecruise as well. I love that feature of the Ford vehicles. Use it all the time and really helps with reducing trip fatigue
Hey, your Bolt died right outside where I attended MangaNEXT 2010! Such fond memories.
Enjoy your vids Tom. A bit curious about your mixing SI units with old English imperial units … miles per kWh? A bit confusing as the US mile is also less than the English mile. Which old mile are you using? Just a dig carry on.
our pints and gallons might be different but the good ol' mile is just the same!
The difference in wind resistance between 55 mph and 70 mph is quite large on any vehicle much less a pickup truck that wasn't designed to be particularly aerodynamic. Keeping between 55 and 60 mph will drastically improve range.
yeah very true saves 10% to be honest
And get you run into on the highway, not safe. Here in Oklahoma most people drive 75-85 depending on the area.
@@hallkbrdz if you survive then that’s a lawsuit so it’s a win win 🏆 🤔😂
Gosh 270 only!? That is terrible range for a country boy like me. I guess I’ll have to wait several more years until an E vehicle with serious range comes out
Heres a range test for you…..hills, mountains, winding roads……the country isnt all just long straight flat highways…..
It has long range, but just Google F150 UNLIMITED RANGE
I been driving in Texas to Arkansas and Tennessee and Missouri area most speed on highway over here is 75 at least hopefully someone around this area do 75 mph to 80 mpg test wonder how far it will go?
Congrats on your new truck, Tom !
Great review 👍
Thank the EV Gods for a big battery, it will come in handy. Nice to see Ford doing a great job!
I wish you would've pulled up the trip screen it would've been nice to see how was actually used for driving and how much for creature comfort.
that's great news. 275 miles range with 70mph speed. great range for a EV truck!
thanks for clarifying fahrenheit. 70 celsius is 158 F. that's unusually hot.
Great content. Looking forward for a test with a travel trailer. 2 things I’d like to see - first, energy use (kw per mile) and total range, second - a 400 mile trip including charging - basically, how long it takes it to charge in the real world as part of a towing test (should be similar to regular test but might be different due to strain on system right after towing).
You can expect range to be cut in half or more depending on the weight you're towing. An extended range battery will charge from 15% to 80% in around 41 minutes. Everyone that has done any research on the lightning should know this vehicle is not designed for long distance towing. Nor is it designed for long distance travelers who are in a hurry to get anywhere. This is a vehicle designed, for great towing and payload capabilities, if used in your local area and you plan on charging at home.
@@pstoneking3418 I'm well aware as I've towed small and large trailers with the Model X but am still curious how the F-150 does due to it's size, weight and battery. BTW, from my own experience and looking at towing reviews (for EV and gas trucks), towing at high speeds is much more effected by the size of the trailer (it's front and volume) than the weight. Travel trailers and hauling trailers have huge fronts that act like big parachutes (or sails) that cause crazy drag and thus increase energy use dramatically and reduce range significantly (on electric and gas). Still looking forward to seeing anyone doing a travel trailer with the F-150 on a 400-500 mile trip - including the charge time.
You can drive 300 on a good day. You know why gas and diesel is superior wind doesn't cut its range by 1/3
Tom, hadn't seen an overall review video yet from you... How do you like it? Do you like it or love it? I just took delivery of mine
Speaking of range, does anyone know why you can't disengage awd? I assume that would help the range
Because Ford didn't spend the $ to build in a clutch disengagement pack for the front or rear motors like some other dual motor evs have.
Maybe the next gen ground up ev lightning from blue oval city in TN around 2025 will offer that feature? 🤔
This truck has perfectly adequate range for escaping NJ, from any awful part of it, you unfortunately might find yourself in 🤣😁
Tom, thank you so very much for doing this. As we wait for our truck, which will be next year we hope, we get these gifts from you. Cheers to you
What I'm most interested in is how many kW you needed to add to get the battery back to 100%? Its great that it could go that far but if the on board charging system is not efficient then the overall miles/kW will be much less
That video is coming up soon
So instead of getting a projected 324 miles it only got 270 miles? Hmmm.
Did you get your tire pressure monitor recall notice. Apparently it was displaying inaccurate air pressure.
Thanks Tom! Are you going to do a range test with towing a load like a camper? That's what I am curious about.
Eventually, yes. But I need to set that up because I don't have a trailer or camper to use yet. I think the next one will be with max payload because I can arrange that easier.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney you can use my camper. A bit far from you in pittsburgh.
I saw a range test towing a moderately sized camper trailer…
85 miles before alarms started going off
Great test Tom and decent range for this large vehicle.
Amazing imo it matches or even slightly beats the purpose built ground up ev rivian r1t in efficiency. Great job fomoco I say.
Now go make hundreds of thousands of them and offer us small business owners a reg cab 6.5' rwd option for under 35k please. 😀
Great truck, Tom. Enjoy!
Go hunt Some EV to charge V2L 😉
I wonder if the range would improve if the truck had a Tonneau or some other cover over the bed?
Can ford charge station pro be set to setting 6 for 64 Amps in a house with a 150A box?
search "lowered Lightning " -2.5in front
Tell mee you're copying tesla without telling me your copying tesla, lol
Please repeat this range test in winter, like you promised. Thanks
70mpg !!! If you driving that slow here in Louisville KY you will get run over and get you are number one !!! 80mpg is the normal speed but from 5am to 6am if you are not doing 90mph you are getting run over
The speed limit here in 65 mph. I couldn't maintain a constant 80 mph if I tried