Toyota 4x4: Solid Axle Swap 3-link Build, Walk-Around and Flex
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- Comments and questions always appreciated!! It's finally coming together, the 3-link SAS build is finally up and running with only a few more tweaks left to do. Here's some of the build pics, a walk-around, and a few flex before-and-after pics
sweet jesus man. I could only dream of doing that to my 86 runner. by far the sickest build ive ever seen on an old yota
I never thought this video would ever come out, I couldn't wait to see this thing! I wish i had the money for this kind of stuff you do! Man, your yota looks amazing! don't ever let go of this thing!
Sir you did a great job on this truck. It´s a beautiful truck and looks like it will treat you well for years to come. Happy wheeling and hope the best for you. I my self have a Toyota, It´s a 1979 4wd its been converted with to a flat bed, 3in lift on 32´s, soon going to swap the 4.10 gears with 5.29´s a 6in lift on 37´s.
I don't know if I cried becasue of how beautiful this is or the music either ways it looks amazing man great job!
Aside from the fact that this is a beautiful piece of work.. That was some very pretty welding my man.. Great job
dude your truck is clean,i love toyota pickups
Glad to hear it man, makes me want to do it. I miss having a nice rig lol. She's getting tired quick between cracking the frame and just about tearing the steering box off the other day, I need every bushing for the springs and every rod end. Shit happens when you wheel hard 3 times a week and still daily drive it. I'm hoping links will take the abuse better. You put together a nice rig and awesome vids keep it up dude.
Looks great. Every time I search on youtube for sas lux all I seem to find is a leaf front end swap. Great to see a coil swap.
probably one of the sickets toyotas i have ever seen. I have owned a few older yoters in my day and sold my last one to purchase a brand new tacoma. Having owned a new (lifted) tacoma for about 2 years now, i would drive an old SAS toyota over a new one ANY day.
So inspiring, can't wait till my '86 looks like this
Front bumper is a custom design by me, built by Sixditch Crawlers in Lilburn, Georgia. Axle is from an '83 Pickup, and the coil 3 link is a custom SAS done by Sixditch Crawlers as well. Pickup axles are easier to come by than FJ axles, so I just modified it with IFS hubs, 1.75" hub spacers and custom trusses.
Your YOTAs so clean dude. I three linked my 86 last year. Running 37s and its my DD. Let me know the next time you go to Union Grove. Great job on the videos!!!
Love it! it rides like a Cadillac. Of course it has a good bit of sway, and I was going to hook up a sway bar, but decided that after getting used to its handling characteristics, it wasn't necessary for me (if you drive with caution, i.e. not treat it like a race car). Leaving the rear end with leafs makes it very streetable w/o swaybars. Ride is great on the highway, I've done 75-85 consistently on the interstate for around 2 hours in one trip with no problems. Flexes like crazy.
Beautiful job man looks great. Hope you enjoy it!
thats a very impressive build so far. very clean install, even better welds. I'm in the process of trying to find an 82-85 front toyota axle to start the SAS swap. but trying to find them in oregon is very hard by its self. I have never seen a spring SAS before. thats sparked my interest now vs leaf springs.
Nice build - looks really good
You literally have built my dream truck
Great job you've done there nice and clean looking. I 3 linked the rear of my 82pu a few years back and transformed the truck got all the parts to do the front just got to find some time to get it done
Looks mean as hell, top job, well done! Greetings from Sweden.
Hey diximudtoy just to answer your question about why old Yoter vs new... The old ones are so simple and capable. Great styling in my opinion, I really really would like to see toyota pay some tribute and dip the extra cab rear window below the window line like they did on the 2nd gen and 3rd gen pickups. Such a unique thing toyota did. My new one is tons of fun but doesn't have the character of the older ones.
Such a beast! Worth the money you spend. Good job man.
man this truck is very nicely done!!!!
She looks better every time
I like the round tube rock sliders
Can't go wrong with the good old Lincoln lockers lol nothing like a welded front end
thanks bud! research, research, research. figure out what setup you want to run...coil or leafs, how much / little lift, what size tires, your goals (desert, rocks, mud)...then start acquiring all of your parts. Get your axle before you start fabbing and rebuild from hub to hub. Once you have the axle built and all your parts / equipment or shop of choice, then get to work...and be involved. It's your truck, make sure it's done the way you want it...not how they think it should be.
I have a 1999 4Runner with a blown 3.4 engine automatic. The good thing about that 1999 is the driver side drop out, so Dana 60s (front and rear) will fit right under there I hope. Couple the Dana axles with a small block Chevy 350, follow your idea with the three link front suspension and in about a year, hard work and a boat load of money, I will have a nice little trail boss. :-)
good job man. that looks really nice. i hope to do something like this to mine one day. im jus getting into crawlin. i got a 91 ex cab with the 3.0. i cant wait to play with it
Awesome build, great video with a good flow to it. Nice job on all the fab work!
@TheDeathCrawler thanks bud, means alot coming from an experienced toyota wheeler. Coils and links perform better than I could imagine. It's taken some tweaking, but overall it drives great. Does well at 90 mph even without sway bars; flexes like crazy, super soft ride. other than a little death wobble that was solved with a few tweaks, it's been great.
Hey man, if you TIG'd those brackets it would do you good to make several passes over your weld joints in the future. Beautiful truck and sweet welds.
Like the explosions and the yota!
@clinthilux IFS trucks' track width is 2-3" wider than SFA trucks, and to match the IFS rear axle width (and just for stability at increased ride heights), this can be achieved by swapping to IFS hubs; these allow for the width increase without using spacers, and also allow for retrofitting V6 brake calipers and vented FJ 40 hubs (instead of the solid factory units).
Really clean, wow
from my experiences, the 3 link is a much better setup. It flexes infinitely better than leafs (I have about 40" of flex per front corner), and rides like a cadillac on the road, so incredibly smooth. Adjustibility and more / less lift is easy with changing the link lengths and swapping to different springs. The only downside is it's not quite as stable as leafed front end without swaybars, but it just adds to the fun of driving for me...still streetable and highway safe with leafs out back.
Sweet truck.... and very nice work
Great fabrication, nice job!!!
I thought you hadn't been doing much fab work to the truck since there wasn't any new videos in a while... boy was I wrong!
nice vid and great build .ive used radius arms for now but will possibly swap to 3 link to match the rear
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Excellent work.
thanks bud!
great build.. been wanting to do a coil swap...FYI if you dont secure your steel brakelines they will get metal fatigue and break over time ... causing no brakes!... i know cuz thats what i did when my truck was "driveable" lol
Great video, great truck! Very cool build. Would love to SAS my 98 4Runner one day :-)
Hey men i know this a old vid but i hope you can answer a couple questions. The top coil mount for the coils did u buy it or is it custom, how did u determine you shock length, and links length? Any info will help. Thank you.
Hi . i got a similar truck that you have. love the way you did the modification . want to do the same but need more pics so i can copy and paste your work. got 33' tyres on mine with 7m toyota twin cam 24 valve straight six motor in. love my truck but needs your modification to make it absolutely perfect.
Nice job bubba!!!
Great vid man
nice job! maybe you don't even have the truck anymore but just in case you do I have a question. How are the road manners on the air shocks? I notice you have leafs in the back does that help with body roll on cornering on the street? I'm planning out my next phase of my 1st gen 4runner build and air shocks are way more budget friendly than coilovers but I'm wondering if you experienced any cons with them. thanks!
Oh I've still got it, but they're not air shocks they're Bilstein 5100 series. And road manners are as good as can be considering it's now hydro steering assisted and has no swaybars lol
Definitely more stable with coils / leafs out front / back with no sways compared to a truck with coils front and back with no sways. You just gotta be situationally aware and take corners slow and be weary of sudden steering inputs
@dixiemudtoy to try and add a little more flex I made 6 1/4 shackles and when I welded the perches on a gave the shackles a sharper then normal angle which gives me another inch or two in drop. I haven't measured how much I can lift them but I drove up on my friend's 35'' swampers and it looked like I could go quite a bit further. I am guessing somewhere around 40''.
Truck looks great !!
Good job man !
thanks man...nah, i was thinking about a wheeling style flatbed (i.e. dovetail, high arches, tube steel / steel panes etc), but i decided against it...i like having bedsides, maybe one day way later on
@dixiemudtoy Thanks, the leafs work well for me, I can still corner pretty fast and don't have much body roll. Not as nice as coil overs but they were in my budget. The last time I measured I was around 37'' in the front with all three wheels on the ground. The more I drive it the more it softens up and flexes. I have trail gear 3'' Toyota springs in the front and Chevy springs in the rear.
I can't remember off the top of my head, it was mostly figured out on the jig...I'll have to go out and take some measurements sometime this week. I have been experiencing "bottoming out" issues off-road on the bump stops when hitting bumps / wash-outs off road, so I recently swapped to using ZJ 2" lift coils, which are rated about 240 pounds compared to the factory TJ 165 lbs...it has provided me a little more lift and a much more manageable ride on road...and still flexes 40".
looks great, love the SAS swaps! when mocking up, how do you determine how much compression the spring will have and placement to spring perch on frame (Height?); or do you just mock the spring location in a general spot relative to wheel spacing and adjust spring after install?
@91trxryder Lift is about 3-4" total, travel per corner is about 30" full compression to full droop.
No problem and i'll try to post a video of it today
every 6 months I pull this video up to admire. I'm about to 3 link mine in Atlanta GA where did you buy your link ends/johnny joints from?
you've done it again..... beaten me to the punch, how do you like it, Handle, does it drift or sway weird? take care, looks good! Semper Fi.
Ohh well how did you make it or were even to start on one. Im new to all this and im about to do a SAS on my 96Tacoma. Hopefully be able to get a set up like yours.
preciate it man, let's see some videos of her!
nice truck man i like it
@98SAS4runner very nice...not sure what mine will do, but it'll go from full tuck to full extension at each corner with the 12" bilsteins. Good call on the chevys...did you do anything to get more lift out of them? mine are an inch or 2 too short for me...
@dixiemudtoy i understand. i have the same exact truck year and all but more stock. the only mods to mine are a LC engineering stage 2 22re crate engine, long tube header, high flow cat(gone very soon) and 2 1/2" exhaust. its no ls1 but its est@ 170hp.mild trails and deep snow is our wheeling so i am goin to keep the ifs but i am goin to lock both axles and add the 2" toytec ball joint spacers and add a leafs and run 33s. bumpers and rock sliders like yours and i am done.....FOR NOW! LOL
Sorry didn't see the link by the side; "Explosions in the sky". Great job by the way
Hey, some more questions i have about your swap? when you did a 3 link front; was that from trail gear or someone else? Because i finally got my self a rig and want to do an S.A.S. swap on it but don't want to sacrifice the ride yet, I'm not going full bore on an off-roader either. And also is the three link up front street friendly?
Simply put as Amazing my friend. My dream truck haha :) well done!!!!!!
How much travel or flex do you get with this setup?
What size shocks am did you get?
Hey Man! I need some help if you can. I have a 93 Toy and Im doing the same thing. Im really curious what springs your using and whats your measurment from the top of the axle to the bottom of the frame. I was trying to keep my truck riding on the lower side with 33" tires, but I'm discovering I need a lot more axle to frame clearence from everything. Awesome mounts btw, nice welds too!
Nice great job
nice yota, ive got a 86 pickup needs some work and she'll go forever
i was wondering when u were going to put a solid axle on that thing iv watched all ur vids dude thats an aswome truck and u made some awsome things for it. is a tube bed any where in the future ?
Its amazing brother!! Gerat video
preciate it man. Just curious, why the preference for the older yoters over your new lifted taco?
@iTzXAlexXx Mine was uncommonly cheap, as I got it from a friend...front and rear as a pair for $50. rebuild kit with 4.56 gears for about $200, and a little sand blasting and spray paint...brand new axle for around $300.
They are modified 2wd chevys...4wd leafs had significantly less arch because of their spring over design. I added a few leafs for more lift and a little more load capacity
I dont know wat to buy bud..im still New in 4x4 but i have d truck For two years now..its d only time dat im planning to raise more..ill send u some picts of my truck so that u hsve an idea what thimgs to be needed..apreciate much your reply bud..
buen trabajo te felicito, cuanto te gastas en las partes para un cambio de ese tipo, gracias
@drum4life42 haha yeah, its all good. it's still only lifted maybe 3 or 4 inches higher than factory. keeping the CG low intentionally.
impeccable..
Hey! I have a 95 yota, and I have an ifs right now.. was wondering how much all of this cost ya, and where you got all the parts?
nice welds
@dixiemudtoy ; so do you think an S.A.S. with 33's could get away with driving on the city and the highway without to much worry about the handling characteristics?
i have 2 of this mounsters..... one is
87 and 94 they are so power full
Very nice Yota
just pure awesome
Hello, what are the specs for those coil springs? Would you still recommend those coils springs for my Toyota pickup?
Any advise or tips for my 3 link solid axle swap?
I’m torn between 3 link and coil springs and leaf springs!!!
I can't remember the specs off the top of my head, but I know they're 2" lift coils for like a late 90s grand Cherokee. The entire 3 link was custom fabricated so what length coils you go with depends on where the top of the coil buckets end up being positioned. But as far as ride quality, they are great for the truck.
Coilovers would probably ride better, but this does great off road and is waayyy cheaper lol
Leaf springs are simple and easy, but it will ride terrible lol. Definitely do some kind of coil and link setup IMO
What's the advantage of the 3 link over the leaf setup? Is the 3 link better on road?
@dixiemudtoy how much $ have you put into this truck. I mean all together like EVERYTHING buying the truck, parts, etc. etc. just curious
Did you feel a lot less bumpy after converted to coil spring?
Truck is coming along sick man. I bet your loving the swap, shes flexing nice. How's it on the road? I'm thinking this spring I'm gonna ditch the tg leafs and link my truck and cage it. Anyways fucking nice build man keep it up, I'm slacking on the upload shit but I'll get some more of my truck up.
oh yes. she floats like an old school cadillac.
I have a 90 Toyota pickup extended cab just had a couple questions if I can use Toyota Land Cruiser front axle the years in 88 forward for my Toyota pickup
That truck is probably around and 1986-88 model telling by the the body style and the fact that it had independent front suspension. If you want one that has a straight axial in front then you would have to find a 1985 or older model unless you wan't to do what he did. I have a 1989 pickup with a 22R-E which does great on the trail, but mine is not as aggressive as this guys but really any one of these trucks between 1983-1995 are great trucks to start with a lot of part available.
@TheJake538 i was going to get one fabricated out of one of my old torsion bars (apparently this is pretty common on SAS's), but after the new shocks went on, it's really not that bad...still corners pretty well, all things considered.
these were tj coils, but the xj coils might do better for you since you'll have more weight to handle with the D60.
Awesome !!!
really nice build !!! how does it drive on the street?
Hey im 15 and looking for a truck to start wheeling with i like your truck and i was wondering what year your truck is or what you would suggest
your truck looks so similar!
Is that paint the stock cardinal red? great looking truck
i found a 87 toyota 4x4 5 speed 22r and it needs to be painted is all thats wrong with it do you think that would be good for a first vehicle and is 2000 worth it? please anyone respond thanks
Love the song... This will destroy you. And also I'll confused on why you did coils on the front I would of gone with leafs but wow that is a nice truck!!!!!