Nice. I tuned in to this video to get a better idea of a traditional cornet sound. I've mainly played trumpet for the last 50 years, mostly jazz. I bought a used Getzen Capri cornet about four years ago and have been working hard to not make it sound like a trumpet. This video was very helpful.
It was nice seeing Edinburgh in drawings as it brought back fond memories of playing trumpet in the fringe festival last year.... I recognised all the pics well :) nice vid!
Thanks Gordon I started playing cornet again after an absence of 20 years found I had a Bach 1.5C and Denis Wick 4B mouthpieces. I find the 4B more suitable as I want to develop my range with its deeper cu and larger throat. Is my thinking OK or not! Enjoyed your playing. Thanks
Ezekiel Schloss Yes, they are identical rims and cups to the standard Denis Wick. they are also the same weight. the difference is that they have a very thin rim and more mass round the bottom of the cup. It makes them more nimble with easier articulation but some people don't like the change it makes to the sound.
Hi Gordon , found your review just by chance . After several years of not playing i have recently joined Creetown Silver Band . We are based on the south west coast 20 miles from Kirkcudbright ..... i actually live in Kirkcudbright . I,m really a Baritone/Euphonium player but have played 2nd/3rd Cornet years ago , they are short of cornet players and have launched me on the front row . I,m playing my youngest sons besson international and am trying to find a good mouthpiece , i,m using a DW 4b at the moment and have acquired a 4bw . I saw that you had a Lewington McCann there .......worth me trying at all .......i know it,s a bit like finding the " holy grail " , or maybe i,m trying to do too much in a short time , but the higher register is hard to get . Love the posts by the way .
Hello, I think it depends on your lips. I have always found a Wick 4 easier in the upper register than a 4B because the 4 is more V shaped. My recommendation is to look round the band hall and see what is lying around or that you can borrow or try out. That should give you an idea of what direction to go in,
Hello Gordon, I have vintage corner and I want to play partitura of flugelhorn with this instrument. So I need a mouthpiece with deep cup. What mouthpiece can you recomend me ?
Hi Gordon, I have a cornet Conn Director Coprion 17A. I am using a 3C long shank but it is very untuned and the sound it is not so pretty. Would you reccomend me a particular mouthpiece I could try to get a more tuned and deep sound? Thanks!
Hello, it depends what is available where you live. If you are in the USA then a Curry 3BBC or a 3VC would be more appropriate. If you live in Europe then a Denis Wick 3B might be what you are looking for.
I am very happy playing my flugelhorn with the Denis Wick 2FL . What is the3 comparable mouthpiece for the cornet please? It seemed to be the Denis Wick 2 but your saying it tires you, which I don't want.
Indeed. I also felt more inconsistent on the 4B and had to work quite hard to get a sound I liked especially in hymns and slow melodies. It works out being more efficient overall to just play the 4.
Benjamin Thankyou for your kind comments. That hymn tune is called Richmond. It is used for various hymns. We know it best as the tune for "Praise to the holiest in the heights".
Btw...your videos are done very well I wish you would do more ....I am interested in a new Cornet but insist on an open blow I despise stuffy horns ...maybe you have input
Paul Dance Gold makes no difference other than providing less grip than silver. Open blow corners are difficult to find. Most open I have used is a Wedgwood (no longer made). The Flip Oaks cornet looks like it might be quite free blowing but I hadn’t tried one. There is one on eBay at the moment.
Thanks for this excellent video Gordon. I am in the process of rebuilding my cornet embouchure after many years of playing horn. I have resurrected my 30+ year old Wick 4B and in measuring dimensions find that it matches the current 2B (cup diameter and rim width). I am wondering if this 4B could have been stamped wrong and is actually a 2B or if the specs in the Wick line have changed over the years?
Peter Whitehead They haven’t really changed. The rims a tiny amount but the diameters have always been pretty accurate. Maybe yours was just stamped wrong?
Thank you And what is your all time free blowing cornet? I have a 928 sovereign London 1991 version weighs a ton but sounds pretty good when I’m in practice!. Do you know this cornet and how would you rate it? I paid £300 6-7 years ago🎺🎺
Hello Gordon As well as using the DW 4B on my Yamaha YRC cornet. I have a B&H sovereign trumpet (circa 1980s made by Besson for B&H) I tried to use the 4b with an DW adjuster on the trumpet. It just did not work well. As I am playing both instruments what trumpet mouthpiece would be a similar to the DW4B. Given what you said about time to get used to playing a different mouth piece. Appreciate any advice. David
B&H Sovereign Symphony or Studio? As the Studio was one of the lightest production Bb trumpets ever (< 2lb) and definitely on the brighter side of 'trumpetty', it makes a difference. Too small a piece is liable to make it somewhat blarty. So while the general rule is to go one letter shallower when switching from cornet to trumpet (ie. to a DW 4C in your case), if you do indeed have the Studio, things might not be that simple. The Viennese style DW 4 may be worth a try. Really depends on your skill level and what sort of repertoire you're looking to play.
Yes. Back playing with Clackmannan. Many of the same people still around. Brian Hodge, George Cameron. I was playing in Kingdom Brass with Willie McMullen a few years ago.
@@GordonHudson I’ve just started playing again after a 20 year gap. Milton Keynes Brass. Taking some lessons with Steve Stewart. Say hi to George, Brian and Willie and any one else who remembers me.
hello. i just bought an olds recording cornet . There is no mouthpiece with it. I normally play a 5c on my trumpet. I wanted to buy a cornet mouthpiece that I can easily switch to as I will spend much more time playing my trumpet. I also wanted one which will give a really cornetty sound. I get the sense an olds recording trumpet may tend to sound a tad bright. would you have any suggestions?
al pritchett If it is an older olds cornet it is a different sized receiver. you could try a Bach 5c Flugelhorn mouthpiece as it is similar sized fitting.
I used to use a 5MV on piccolo trumpet and it is quite a bright mouthpiece. A 5V might do it, but who would stock one? There are also Curry mouthpieces based on the 5C rim but if you are in the UK they will be expensive to import.
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You have such a beautiful sound! My pick was the cut down version of the McCann followed by the Wick. Many thanks for doing this vid!
Nice. I tuned in to this video to get a better idea of a traditional cornet sound. I've mainly played trumpet for the last 50 years, mostly jazz. I bought a used Getzen Capri cornet about four years ago and have been working hard to not make it sound like a trumpet. This video was very helpful.
Thanks. Lots of options out there without having to go to the more extreme deep and open mouthpieces.
Gordon; Greetings! You do some truly excellent playing here. Great vid, thanks for posting! :)
Very interesting, thank you. I too play on a 2 and would endorse everything you say
1st Lewington McCann sounds great!
It was nice seeing Edinburgh in drawings as it brought back fond memories of playing trumpet in the fringe festival last year.... I recognised all the pics well :) nice vid!
Thanks. Hope you got paid! Bit of a problem brewing over this year's fringe.
+Gordon Hudson I did... Oh really?! Didn't realise that there was an issue this year!
Apparently a number of musicians due to be paid by the fringe organisers still haven't been.
+Gordon Hudson Poor form!!
Nice review, thanks for posting!
Thanks Gordon I started playing cornet again after an absence of 20 years found I had a Bach 1.5C and Denis Wick 4B mouthpieces. I find the 4B more suitable as I want to develop my range with its deeper cu and larger throat. Is my thinking OK or not! Enjoyed your playing. Thanks
I don't think the trumpet type mouthpieces work very well. The Wick 4b is a good compromise. Good luck!
@@GordonHudson Thanks Gordon I'll use the 4B
Great video! Do you know anything about the Dennis Wick Heritage line? Thank you.
Ezekiel Schloss Yes, they are identical rims and cups to the standard Denis Wick. they are also the same weight. the difference is that they have a very thin rim and more mass round the bottom of the cup. It makes them more nimble with easier articulation but some people don't like the change it makes to the sound.
Out of interest, where did you get the McCann machined? I haven't the faintest clue about brass repairers/technicians in central Scotland!
It was done in the USA, but Robinson Brass do this type of work. I think he is in Devon.
@@GordonHudsonthanks so much for the swift response
Hi Gordon , found your review just by chance . After several years of not playing i have recently joined Creetown Silver Band . We are based on the south west coast 20 miles from Kirkcudbright ..... i actually live in Kirkcudbright . I,m really a Baritone/Euphonium player but have played 2nd/3rd Cornet years ago , they are short of cornet players and have launched me on the front row . I,m playing my youngest sons besson international and am trying to find a good mouthpiece , i,m using a DW 4b at the moment and have acquired a 4bw . I saw that you had a Lewington McCann there .......worth me trying at all .......i know it,s a bit like finding the " holy grail " , or maybe i,m trying to do too much in a short time , but the higher register is hard to get . Love the posts by the way .
Hello, I think it depends on your lips. I have always found a Wick 4 easier in the upper register than a 4B because the 4 is more V shaped. My recommendation is to look round the band hall and see what is lying around or that you can borrow or try out. That should give you an idea of what direction to go in,
I greatly enjoy your vids!
Good video, nice playing! Thanks for sharing. It amazes me how the mouthpieces change the tone. Out of curiosity what mic do you use to record?
Can you recommend an all around very good flugelhorn MP, I’ve hear Curry or Denis Wick 4Fl ....I would like to hear recommendations for Jazz Ballads.
Personally for ballads I would choose the Wick. I own a curry and it's good but not as soft a sound.
Gordon Hudson I am assuming gold doesn’t enrich the sound just more of a comfort thing ?
Hello Gordon, I have vintage corner and I want to play partitura of flugelhorn with this instrument. So I need a mouthpiece with deep cup. What mouthpiece can you recomend me ?
Sorry, what is that march at 9:43? It is so familiar, yet I can't quite place it.
Hi Larry, it's the opening bar to the Washington Post (1889) by J.P Sousa.
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Hi Gordon, I have a cornet Conn Director Coprion 17A. I am using a 3C long shank but it is very untuned and the sound it is not so pretty.
Would you reccomend me a particular mouthpiece I could try to get a more tuned and deep sound?
Thanks!
Hello, it depends what is available where you live. If you are in the USA then a Curry 3BBC or a 3VC would be more appropriate. If you live in Europe then a Denis Wick 3B might be what you are looking for.
@@GordonHudson thanks Gordon! I will than purchase the Denis Wick 3B and let's see how it works out!
Have a nice day :)
I am very happy playing my flugelhorn with the Denis Wick 2FL . What is the3 comparable mouthpiece for the cornet please? It seemed to be the Denis Wick 2 but your saying it tires you, which I don't want.
The Wick 2 cornet is the equivalent. The 2B has the same rim but is not quite as deep so is easier to play.
@@GordonHudson Thank you.
Denis Wick 4 seems to check most of the points for me. I really tried to acclimatise to a 4B but it felt so tight in the high register on my Maestro.
I find that too. The V shaped mouthpiece is more efficient and easier in the upper register.
Indeed. I also felt more inconsistent on the 4B and had to work quite hard to get a sound I liked especially in hymns and slow melodies. It works out being more efficient overall to just play the 4.
What size mouthpiece in a Denis Wick would be the same size as a 3C in Bach cornet mouthpiece??? I need a shallow cup like the C cup in the Bach
Spencer Russell Denis Wick 3 rim is closest but you might want a 3B rather than a 3.
Pls can you review the Richard Marshall signature mouthpiece please
Hello, I'm looking to buy a denis wick mouthpiece. Which one compares to a 5c?
None really. They all have very different rims to the Bach's.
Great comparison and playing! Such a sweet tone. Do you remember what the hymn is called?
Benjamin Thankyou for your kind comments. That hymn tune is called Richmond. It is used for various hymns. We know it best as the tune for "Praise to the holiest in the heights".
That's lovely, thank you!
Btw...your videos are done very well I wish you would do more ....I am interested in a new Cornet but insist on an open blow I despise stuffy horns ...maybe you have input
Paul Dance Gold makes no difference other than providing less grip than silver. Open blow corners are difficult to find. Most open I have used is a Wedgwood (no longer made). The Flip Oaks cornet looks like it might be quite free blowing but I hadn’t tried one. There is one on eBay at the moment.
what is that song called at 9:43 ? its like an American marching tune or something?
Washington Post March
@@GordonHudson thanks, you play the opening so well :)
it makes me wish I continued playing the cornet (played in the school band 35yr ago)
Have you tried a Jim Shepherd Special Mouthpiece?
No, I haven't.
Thanks for this excellent video Gordon. I am in the process of rebuilding my cornet embouchure after many years of playing horn. I have resurrected my 30+ year old Wick 4B and in measuring dimensions find that it matches the current 2B (cup diameter and rim width). I am wondering if this 4B could have been stamped wrong and is actually a 2B or if the specs in the Wick line have changed over the years?
Peter Whitehead They haven’t really changed. The rims a tiny amount but the diameters have always been pretty accurate. Maybe yours was just stamped wrong?
Thanks Gordon
What is your all time favourite cornet with mouthpiece?
Denis Wick 2 on a good day! On a normal day Yamaha 16E.
Thank you
And what is your all time free blowing cornet?
I have a 928 sovereign London 1991 version weighs a ton but sounds pretty good when I’m in practice!.
Do you know this cornet and how would you rate it?
I paid £300 6-7 years ago🎺🎺
@@CornetBlues Free blowing: Wedgwood. Very few made though
@@CornetBlues 928 plays evenly but I feel it lacks the tone character of the earlier sovereign, the Yamaha Maestro or the Geneva Heritage.
@@GordonHudson thanks for your advice 👏🎺👏👍
Hello Gordon As well as using the DW 4B on my Yamaha YRC cornet. I have a B&H sovereign trumpet (circa 1980s made by Besson for B&H) I tried to use the 4b with an DW adjuster on the trumpet.
It just did not work well. As I am playing both instruments what trumpet mouthpiece would be a similar to the DW4B. Given what you said about time to get used to playing a different mouth piece.
Appreciate any advice. David
B&H Sovereign Symphony or Studio? As the Studio was one of the lightest production Bb trumpets ever (< 2lb) and definitely on the brighter side of 'trumpetty', it makes a difference. Too small a piece is liable to make it somewhat blarty.
So while the general rule is to go one letter shallower when switching from cornet to trumpet (ie. to a DW 4C in your case), if you do indeed have the Studio, things might not be that simple. The Viennese style DW 4 may be worth a try. Really depends on your skill level and what sort of repertoire you're looking to play.
Stumbled upon this - same Gordon who played with 40 odd years ago?
Yes. Back playing with Clackmannan. Many of the same people still around. Brian Hodge, George Cameron. I was playing in Kingdom Brass with Willie McMullen a few years ago.
@@GordonHudson I’ve just started playing again after a 20 year gap. Milton Keynes Brass. Taking some lessons with Steve Stewart. Say hi to George, Brian and Willie and any one else who remembers me.
@@tomchapple2017 Will do. Paul Kiernan is still around. He conducted me recently. Paul Dornan too on Cornet.
hello. i just bought an olds recording cornet . There is no mouthpiece with it. I normally play a 5c on my trumpet. I wanted to buy a cornet mouthpiece that I can easily switch to as I will spend much more time playing my trumpet. I also wanted one which will give a really cornetty sound. I get the sense an olds recording trumpet may tend to sound a tad bright. would you have any suggestions?
al pritchett If it is an older olds cornet it is a different sized receiver. you could try a Bach 5c Flugelhorn mouthpiece as it is similar sized fitting.
Gordon Hudson standard reciever. would a 5mv give it a conetty mellow sound?
I used to use a 5MV on piccolo trumpet and it is quite a bright mouthpiece. A 5V might do it, but who would stock one? There are also Curry mouthpieces based on the 5C rim but if you are in the UK they will be expensive to import.
Gordon Hudson is 5v really deep? I bought a fake dennis wick 4b just to have something when it arrived.
al pritchett 5V is very very deep with a big throat, but unlike the Wick it has straight sides.
Don't set a mouthpiece on it rim! The chance of scratching on a hard surface.
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