@mikedrown2721 At one time I had all three, side by side, in my garage: a Turquoise Edsel convertible, a Yosemite Yellow Sunliner and a Monte Carlo Red Meteor Montcalm convertible!
This 60 model is just a great looking car. The original styling was, to me, unique but I could see where people thought it was ugly. If they would have started with this design it would have actually sold.
1960 was a bumper-crop year for automotive ugliness, so the Edsel didn't really stand out all that much, especially alongside Lincoln and Mercury. And look at the nausea-inducing atrocities from GM and Chrysler. It's no wonder Studebaker and Rambler did well sales-wise in 1960.
I’m a old school Ford guy, and I never knew a 60 Edsel existed. They certainly look nicer than the 8’s and 9’s. That car is worth a boat load of money.
The feedback was so poor when the 58 debuted, that Ford began an early redesign for 59. However, the damage was already done. By 1960 it was too little too late. They got the styling right for 60, but it also looked too much like other Ford products for that year. So they pulled the plug. 🤷♂️ Also the nomenclature didn't help. The branding was actually Edsel, and the model was Ranger. But the Ranger name had been used previously by Ford on commercial vehicles, and I believe another manufacturers used it as a trim on their wagons. So the buying public always saw it as a "Ford Edsel", and didn't justify the elevated asking price.
There were only about 2,500 made, and Edsel was actually bankrupt before 1960 began. For decades thereafter the Guinness Book of Records listed the Edsel bankruptcy as the biggest financial loss ever survived by a company.
@@kennethjackson7574 Nobody filed for bankruptcy over the Edsel. It cost Ford $250M but they more than made it back with the Falcon in first-year sales. I haven't read Guinness, but if they used the word bankruptcy, they're full of canal water.
Had Edsel been launched in late summer 1959 looking like this one the marque would definitely have had a future. Very much amongst the best looking model year cars for 1960.
Mine eyes have YET to see ANY 1960 Edsel! (and I have seen a lot of ancientmobiles). Beautiful car you have there BarryT! I live in the Seattle area. And I was recently in Phoenix. I wonder if that might be an omen that I will see a 1960 Edsel before I leave this world.
Ill never forget that someone once offered me a 4 dr sedan 60 edsel from their backyard , free... My ex wife hated it, calling it the ugliest car she'd ever seen. Needless to say, i didnt get it. Happily, shes not my wife anymore 😁👍
while in high school in the late 60's,one of the teachers drove a 1960 Edsel wagon-somewhere around 1971 it got into a minor wreck and from that day on it had a 60 Ford front fenders,grille etc-wish I knew whereit ended up
@@tomcummings655 In 1972 we saw a '60 Wagon in Hawaiian Blue with a black Ford front clip on a freeway in Pennsylvania. In Santa Monica, Calif., a lady had a Belmont Blue '60 Town Victoria with an Alaskan Gold Edsel 4-DHT LF door. Several Edsel enthusiasts saw this car but no one could ever catch up with it to save it.
@@BarryTsGarage Someone told me years ago that the worst thing you can do to a car is drive it, and not drive it. Therefore drive it just enough to keep it exercised while having fun with it at the same time.
A car, exactly like this, came from Mt Carmel, IL. It was bought new there from Carlton Ford. An older man kept it garaged & rarely drove it. I only saw it once & that was at a gas station. Same color as this & a convertible as well.
Great restoration job. I'd like to see how it looked with factory rocker moldings. Even if you just held them in place to take a photo, it would be very interesting to see how they would look. 60 Edsels had a dual rear radio antenna (probably an option) that blended in with chrome fender trim. The antennas slanted to the rear, and were very stylish. I see them on a white 60 Edsel driving around in Miami every so often. It was mentioned in one youtube video that the 60 Edsels were 81 1/2 inches wide, which required some states to make exceptions in licensing them, which otherwise would have fallen into a "truck" category.
@tompastian3447 Although the stainless rocker panel trim were an option, every '60 Edsel convertible I've seen since I saw my first in 1970 has had them They are not unattractive, like those horrible bent antennas, spare tire mounts or ghetto fender skirts.
The thumbnail image for this video showing the front left oblique view of the car shows that the general shape and lines are very similar to the 1962 Buick special. I'm wondering if Buick borrowed some of their design ideas from this edsel.
Truly gorgeous. I've never seen one before. If only they didn't use the name 'Edsel' things may have been different even despite the grille on the earlier models. Ford stuffed up.
Edsel- Every Day Something Else Leaks😉. Fun fact the '61 Comet was to be the next gen Edsel. But the decision was made to pretend the Edsel never happened and move on. The connection was Edsels in the last 2 years were sold at the Edsel Lincoln Mercury dealers. For the 1st 2 years it was branded as the Comet the Mercury name would not appear until '62.
Yes, but not in that order, you understand. The first Comet clays were planned to be the 1961 Edsel, a "luxury compact". When that was determined to be too risky (remember, Ford stock had just gone public in 1956) Comet became a stand-alone make. Alongside English Ford, it was to be sold thru the recently realigned "Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln" dealer's banner, formed in January, 1958, and wasn't introduced until March 17, 1960.
Ford had the finest automatic trans on the market with their original 3-speed, air-cooled, cast iron Fordomatic. But over the years they managed to whittle it down to a troublesome bag of junk. By the 1960s Ford's main auto trans was the C-4 Cruisomatic, which wouldn't go 65M before crapping out.
@BarryTsGarage Think his had the 292, wouldn't swear to it tho. I swept up around that dealership & that car was in for service, etc in the mid '60s. Trivia: the 430 wasn't availailable with the Edsel but that parts department had, of all things, a 3-2 bbl manifold for it. No carbs or air filter tho. It had been ordered by 1 of the mechanics for a 430-equipped Mercury.
The real story why the '60 Edsel was cancelled is because Ford was contracturly obligated with dealers to build 3 consecutive model years. So they pulled the plug exactly on that date in November 1959. They had decided to cancel the Edsel in 1958.
@@BarryTsGarage there is a video on TH-cam that has this woman who inherited the '60 Citation coupe her father bought on Nov 14, 1959 the day Ford announced the closure of Edsel. It's a long interview full of information on Edsel
@@bigjoe330 Andrea is her name. I watched the entire interview just a few days ago. Fascinating! She has already had it mechanically restored. She will be having it cosmetically restored within a year or so. About the worst thing you can say about her car is the headliner needs serious help.
The front end of this '60 Edsel looks exactly -- and I mean EXACTLY -- like the front end of the 1961 Pontiac Tempest. Why does nobody else see this? They're like identical.
@@richarda3659 Edsel actually took the grill design off the 1959 Pontiac. The '61 Tempest grill was already locked in at Pontiac long before the '60 Edsel was conceived.
I love the car but it is a testament to Ford's quick pivot from an Edsel to a Ford Galaxy. My Dad owned a 1960 Ford Galaxy with a V8 and that is what I am seeing here. RIP Edsel.
I agree - Ford “needed” a bigger lineup to compete with GM but mistakes were made and the economy tanked at the perfectly wrong time. I think Thunderbird picked them up a bit and then the Mustang healed the wound pretty well… 😂
Absolutely beautiful car with a primo color! The 1960 model was much nicer than the horse collar 58/59. It is a shame that Ford went the direction they did with the brand starting out and the workers should have been shot for their sabotage of production. Terminations should have happened to the overpaid workers.
The Tele-Touch nightmare was 1958 only. Fortunately, 1958 Ranger-Pacer and wagons can be authentically modified with column automatic or standard drives from 1956 Mercurys or 1958-1960 Thunderbirds.
Edsels. Plural. No apostrophe. Too bad they yanked the brand. The 1960 models were stunning. Stodgy to stunning. They could have made something out of it with proper marketing to a younger demographic. They already had Lincoln for the older sect.
It's amazing that Ford would completely abandon the Edsel front end styling theme for its last year of production and then somehow come up with a grill that almost duplicates the 1959 Pontiac front end! Or is this actually a Canadian Ford?
Well, I appreciate your comment, but looking at a 1960 Pontiac front end I just can’t exactly see what you’re talking about? Maybe a 61 skylark? Also, I think they rightly abandoned the ‘58 original look reacting to overwhelming public reaction. Also the division was very unlucky timing the new endeavor with the recession that year. A combination of bad choices and unlucky timing. One thing they did to make them separate from Fords was to make sure the smallest engine was a good size V8, no six cylinders so all of them would have a good bit of power, no matter what trim level.
@@kirbywaite1586 The silent conspiracy and eves-dropping between Edsel and Pontiac is legendary. Both the 1959 and 1960 Pontiac have distinctive 1960 Edsel styling cues, front and back. At the time, Edsel had a styling clay called the Ventura, which became a Pontiac series.
For a dedicated purist, he sure doesn't stick to his guns very well! Sure, those dreadful fender skirts and continental spare tire carriers were ugly as hell, but so are those phony Ford exhaust deflectors and Thunderbird wire wheels. No Edsel ever came with wire wheels. Talk about keeping it "all original"... gimme a break! I've known Steve for almost 50 years and he was always a very honest and trustworthy straight-shooter. But sadly that's all changed in the last couple of years, as he extricates himself from the Edsel hobby.
I always give a pass on wheel choices because they are so easy to swap back. Or even swap for a show vs when you’re dailying something. I imagine you are on the strict side of things as your preference, which I respect, but seeing the car I didn’t see much that wouldn’t be simple to change, so no big deal. My opinion.
@@BarryTsGarage By that lopsided standard, it's easy to repaint it, so why not paint it Purple Flame Glo Metalflake with 30" Go-Fast Circus Wheels on lifted rubber-band tires and 1978 Cadillac dash & tilt steering wheel? All that's "easy to swap back" depending on your level of dedication, of course!
Beautiful car, if I saw it without knowing, I’d never guessed Edsel. They should’ve started with that design.
Beautiful car! A red '60 Ford convertible and a red '60 🇨🇦Meteor convertible parked next to this Edsel would be mind blowing
@mikedrown2721 At one time I had all three, side by side, in my garage: a Turquoise Edsel convertible, a Yosemite Yellow Sunliner and a Monte Carlo Red Meteor Montcalm convertible!
@@lancasterritzyescargotdine2602 Nice! 👍
@@mikedrown2721 The only thing the Edsel and the Meteor share that's unique is the trunk lock!
Beautiful 60 Edsel. Our family had a 58 Bermuda wagon bought new in 57.
That must have been something!
I really like the '60! Thanks for sharing.
Yes Sir!
Stunning cars.
This 60 model is just a great looking car. The original styling was, to me, unique but I could see where people thought it was ugly. If they would have started with this design it would have actually sold.
My parents had a 1960 Ranger. The most common guess was “Is that a Canadian Ford?”
You might be right!
1960 was a bumper-crop year for automotive ugliness, so the Edsel didn't really stand out all that much, especially alongside Lincoln and Mercury. And look at the nausea-inducing atrocities from GM and Chrysler. It's no wonder Studebaker and Rambler did well sales-wise in 1960.
@@kennethjackson7574 They were also confused with 1959 Pontiacs.
I’m a old school Ford guy, and I never knew a 60 Edsel existed. They certainly look nicer than the 8’s and 9’s. That car is worth a boat load of money.
AWESOME,,AWESOME car,,,Hard to believe these cars didn't make it..
An Incredibly Beauuutiful Car!💕
It's a stunner. Never saw this look before. Always thought the 1958-59 was the only kind.
The feedback was so poor when the 58 debuted, that Ford began an early redesign for 59. However, the damage was already done. By 1960 it was too little too late. They got the styling right for 60, but it also looked too much like other Ford products for that year. So they pulled the plug. 🤷♂️
Also the nomenclature didn't help. The branding was actually Edsel, and the model was Ranger. But the Ranger name had been used previously by Ford on commercial vehicles, and I believe another manufacturers used it as a trim on their wagons. So the buying public always saw it as a "Ford Edsel", and didn't justify the elevated asking price.
There were only about 2,500 made, and Edsel was actually bankrupt before 1960 began. For decades thereafter the Guinness Book of Records listed the Edsel bankruptcy as the biggest financial loss ever survived by a company.
@@kennethjackson7574 Nobody filed for bankruptcy over the Edsel. It cost Ford $250M but they more than made it back with the Falcon in first-year sales. I haven't read Guinness, but if they used the word bankruptcy, they're full of canal water.
That's a beautiful car 👍
😎🙏
This was the good looking Edsel.
Amazing car, a real beauty.
Had Edsel been launched in late summer 1959 looking like this one the marque would definitely have had a future. Very much amongst the best looking model year cars for 1960.
I have to agree!
Edsels were at one time laughed at. Now due to their rarity they will increase in value great americana ! CONGRATULATIONS !!
That's a great-looking machine indeed! This gentleman knows these cars in wonderful detail. Enjoyed the video!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
ONE WORD....WOW !!
Thank you. I always assumed the only difference between a 60 Ford vs a 60 Edsel was the grill and rear fenders.
Mine eyes have YET to see ANY 1960 Edsel! (and I have seen a lot of ancientmobiles). Beautiful car you have there BarryT! I live in the Seattle area. And I was recently in Phoenix. I wonder if that might be an omen that I will see a 1960 Edsel before I leave this world.
May be!! Thanks to Steve for sharing his car with all of us!
The '60 Edsel is a really nice looking '60 Ford which is what it essentially is, even the dash is '60 Ford.
Ill never forget that someone once offered me a 4 dr sedan 60 edsel from their backyard , free... My ex wife hated it, calling it the ugliest car she'd ever seen. Needless to say, i didnt get it. Happily, shes not my wife anymore 😁👍
😂
You should have found a 61 Plymouth.That would really upset.Incidentally I love both cars.
This the best Edsel ever made
I’m a Chevy and Cadillac man
Damn shame she was your wife then.
The car stays Beautiful.😁
A man of my thinking i cant stand fender skirts and continental kits. Beautiful rare car. I would imagine a lot of the parts have to be made.
That is beautiful
while in high school in the late 60's,one of the teachers drove a 1960 Edsel wagon-somewhere around 1971 it got into a minor wreck and from that day on it had a 60 Ford front fenders,grille etc-wish I knew whereit ended up
This was in Fargo ND.
@@tomcummings655 In 1972 we saw a '60 Wagon in Hawaiian Blue with a black Ford front clip on a freeway in Pennsylvania. In Santa Monica, Calif., a lady had a Belmont Blue '60 Town Victoria with an Alaskan Gold Edsel 4-DHT LF door. Several Edsel enthusiasts saw this car but no one could ever catch up with it to save it.
Never seen this car before. Really didn't like the Edsel grilles but this one looks terrific!
Very Pontiac grille.
wow , magnificent
Thank you, Mike!
He’s had 47 1960 Edsels? That thing is incomparable.
It looks like a crossover between a Ford Mercury and a Lincoln however it's a beautiful car nice video thank you I love old cars like that one❤
I agree with you - thanks!
1960, a year that was fabulous.
Very cool car indeed. Thanks!
This car is gorgeous and it's a pity they didn't start with this design, great restauration.
@keno77 Try "restoration".
keno77 Did you ever eat in a "restorant"?
Beautiful car. I would be afraid to drive it for fear it might get rear ended
Good classic car insurance plus careful driving means it’s reasonable to go out with them once in a while in my opinion… Thanks for watching!
@@BarryTsGarage Someone told me years ago that the worst thing you can do to a car is drive it, and not drive it. Therefore drive it just enough to keep it exercised while having fun with it at the same time.
@@nonelost1 perfect!
A car, exactly like this, came from Mt Carmel, IL. It was bought new there from Carlton Ford. An older man kept it garaged & rarely drove it. I only saw it once & that was at a gas station. Same color as this & a convertible as well.
I'd just camefrom seeing Fullsize FORD channel,,he pickedd up one to restore ( '58 model,,I believe) but this one looks in showroom. Condition
Very cool. Steve started with a good one and it still took many years to complete. Thanks for watching!
I wonder if he's going to sell the other Edsel, since as he says he is getting older, that convertible is absolutely a stunning car.
I’m not sure - good question. I will try to find out
Steve Schultz has been selling off his Edsel cars, parts and collectibles for the last 2-3 years.
Great restoration job. I'd like to see how it looked with factory rocker moldings. Even if you just held them in place to take a photo, it would be very interesting to see how they would look. 60 Edsels had a dual rear radio antenna (probably an option) that blended in with chrome fender trim. The antennas slanted to the rear, and were very stylish. I see them on a white 60 Edsel driving around in Miami every so often. It was mentioned in one youtube video that the 60 Edsels were 81 1/2 inches wide, which required some states to make exceptions in licensing them, which otherwise would have fallen into a "truck" category.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@tompastian3447 Although the stainless rocker panel trim were an option, every '60 Edsel convertible I've seen since I saw my first in 1970 has had them They are not unattractive, like those horrible bent antennas, spare tire mounts or ghetto fender skirts.
Reminds me of a 60 Ford Sunliner.
Totally
The thumbnail image for this video showing the front left oblique view of the car shows that the general shape and lines are very similar to the 1962 Buick special. I'm wondering if Buick borrowed some of their design ideas from this edsel.
I had never thought of that, but now that you mention it, I see it!
Truly gorgeous. I've never seen one before. If only they didn't use the name 'Edsel' things may have been different even despite the grille on the earlier models. Ford stuffed up.
Poor workmanship on the '58 had far more to do with the Edsel's problems then the name, although the name didn't help.
@@bgraham928 Very true, especially as translates to bad engineering with the suspension and the electric transmission shifting.
Looks like your at the WigWam @Goodyear
I love these but they're pricey now. The last time I looked at one for sale they were asking $125k.
Well, I honestly did not know that!
I have a 60 fairlane, and the edsel looks like it's from an alternate universe. Beautiful car, though.
Those tailights are now used on Rivian pickups.
🤣🤣
Edsel- Every Day Something Else Leaks😉. Fun fact the '61 Comet was to be the next gen Edsel. But the decision was made to pretend the Edsel never happened and move on. The connection was Edsels in the last 2 years were sold at the Edsel Lincoln Mercury dealers. For the 1st 2 years it was branded as the Comet the Mercury name would not appear until '62.
This is true. Thanks for adding to the story!
Yes, but not in that order, you understand. The first Comet clays were planned to be the 1961 Edsel, a "luxury compact". When that was determined to be too risky (remember, Ford stock had just gone public in 1956) Comet became a stand-alone make. Alongside English Ford, it was to be sold thru the recently realigned "Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln" dealer's banner, formed in January, 1958, and wasn't introduced until March 17, 1960.
Nice car but a bit sad or poor that trans went out with such low miles.
Ford had the finest automatic trans on the market with their original 3-speed, air-cooled, cast iron Fordomatic. But over the years they managed to whittle it down to a troublesome bag
of junk. By the 1960s Ford's main auto trans was the C-4 Cruisomatic, which wouldn't go 65M before crapping out.
I love the 352 had a 352t in a 67 truck sold it to a guy for a stock car.
Cool
There was a guy named Chester Parrot from Mt Carmel, IL who bought 1 of those new.
He was one of few 👍
@BarryTsGarage Think his had the 292, wouldn't swear to it tho. I swept up around that dealership & that car was in for service, etc in the mid '60s. Trivia: the 430 wasn't availailable with the Edsel but that parts department had, of all things, a 3-2 bbl manifold for it. No carbs or air filter tho. It had been ordered by 1 of the mechanics for a 430-equipped Mercury.
The real story why the '60 Edsel was cancelled is because Ford was contracturly obligated with dealers to build 3 consecutive model years. So they pulled the plug exactly on that date in November 1959. They had decided to cancel the Edsel in 1958.
Hey, that’s a good insight - I did not know that! Thank you
@@BarryTsGarage there is a video on TH-cam that has this woman who inherited the '60 Citation coupe her father bought on Nov 14, 1959 the day Ford announced the closure of Edsel. It's a long interview full of information on Edsel
@@bigjoe330 Andrea is her name. I watched the entire interview just a few days ago. Fascinating! She has already had it mechanically restored. She will be having it cosmetically restored within a year or so. About the worst thing you can say about her car is the headliner needs serious help.
bigjoe330 Nice speculative theories, but 100% erroneous, Sorry!
@@BarryTsGarage Don't worry, it never happened. Sales of the '60 were far worse than the '58, which is why further production was canceled.
#oneofmybestinclassperiod. 00:00:00.
The front end of this '60 Edsel looks exactly -- and I mean EXACTLY -- like the front end of the 1961 Pontiac Tempest. Why does nobody else see this? They're like identical.
And Edsel was first!
@@BarryTsGarage Yah it sure appears as if Pontiac copied Ford's design, but of course I don't actually know that.
@@richarda3659 Edsel actually took the grill design off the 1959 Pontiac. The '61 Tempest grill was already locked in at Pontiac long before the '60 Edsel was conceived.
I love the car but it is a testament to Ford's quick pivot from an Edsel to a Ford Galaxy. My Dad owned a 1960 Ford Galaxy with a V8 and that is what I am seeing here. RIP Edsel.
I agree - Ford “needed” a bigger lineup to compete with GM but mistakes were made and the economy tanked at the perfectly wrong time. I think Thunderbird picked them up a bit and then the Mustang healed the wound pretty well… 😂
Absolutely beautiful car with a primo color! The 1960 model was much nicer than the horse collar 58/59. It is a shame that Ford went the direction they did with the brand starting out and the workers should have been shot for their sabotage of production. Terminations should have happened to the overpaid workers.
Did this still have the Tele a Touch automatic?
As I remember, none of the 60 Edsels had the push button trans. To many problems, and 59 may have been the last year for the push button trans.
No, this has a column shift.
The Tele-Touch nightmare was 1958 only. Fortunately, 1958 Ranger-Pacer and wagons can be authentically modified with column automatic or standard drives from 1956 Mercurys or 1958-1960 Thunderbirds.
Unfortunately, too little to late for the Edsel line.
Edsels. Plural. No apostrophe. Too bad they yanked the brand. The 1960 models were stunning. Stodgy to stunning. They could have made something out of it with proper marketing to a younger demographic. They already had Lincoln for the older sect.
Good catch (corrected) and a fair point!
Butiful car but did ford make a 1960 pacer ?
My understanding is the Pacer name was only produced by Edsel in 1958 model year. Of course, AMC created a very different Pacer in the 1970's...
Continental Kit would have ruined it.
It's amazing that Ford would completely abandon the Edsel front end styling theme for its last year of production and then somehow come up with a grill that almost duplicates the 1959 Pontiac front end! Or is this actually a Canadian Ford?
Well, I appreciate your comment, but looking at a 1960 Pontiac front end I just can’t exactly see what you’re talking about? Maybe a 61 skylark? Also, I think they rightly abandoned the ‘58 original look reacting to overwhelming public reaction. Also the division was very unlucky timing the new endeavor with the recession that year. A combination of bad choices and unlucky timing. One thing they did to make them separate from Fords was to make sure the smallest engine was a good size V8, no six cylinders so all of them would have a good bit of power, no matter what trim level.
@BarryTsGarage Please excuse me, I was off by a year! I meant to write 1959 Pontiac, not 1960! You must think I'm crazy. I corrected it. Thanks
@@kirbywaite1586 The silent conspiracy and eves-dropping between Edsel and Pontiac is legendary. Both the 1959 and 1960 Pontiac have distinctive 1960 Edsel styling cues, front and back. At the time, Edsel had a styling clay called the Ventura, which became a Pontiac series.
@@lancasterritzyescargotdine2602 How interesting. Thank you.
Too bad Edsel didn't get access to the Starliner roof.
Good point!!
For a dedicated purist, he sure doesn't stick to his guns very well! Sure, those dreadful fender skirts and continental spare tire carriers were ugly as hell, but so are those phony Ford exhaust deflectors and Thunderbird wire wheels. No Edsel ever came with wire wheels. Talk about keeping it "all original"... gimme a break! I've known Steve for almost 50 years and he was always a very honest and trustworthy straight-shooter. But sadly that's all changed in the last couple of years, as he extricates himself from the Edsel hobby.
I always give a pass on wheel choices because they are so easy to swap back. Or even swap for a show vs when you’re dailying something. I imagine you are on the strict side of things as your preference, which I respect, but seeing the car I didn’t see much that wouldn’t be simple to change, so no big deal. My opinion.
@@BarryTsGarage By that lopsided standard, it's easy to repaint it, so why not paint it Purple Flame Glo Metalflake with 30" Go-Fast Circus Wheels on lifted rubber-band tires and 1978 Cadillac dash & tilt steering wheel? All that's "easy to swap back" depending on your level of dedication, of course!
It really wasn’t a great looking shape. Really awkward looking tail lights.
Tail lights look good on that model. They are unique.