Thanks for this, it's sad as she was such a beautiful unique ship. I loved her as a kid and Tamiya's first waterline model of her was also unique as it had a metal waterline plate.
5:30 Yeah that's lazy people getting their facts wrong. In 1944, surviving destroyers from the Fubuki, Asashio and Kagerō classes did have their number 2 turrets removed, for more light AA mounts. But not Shimakaze or the Yūgumo class, since they had the newer type D turret, which had enough elevation to (theoretically) be used for AA fire.
@@maineiacmanKitakami only had her 10 quadruple torpedo launchers for a single year. August 1941 until August 1942. After that, 4 launchers got removed, and she was rebuild to transport torpedos from one location to another. She was essentially an armed supply ship for the rest of the war.
The bearing from the picture of the port shaft and screw is very close to the same bearing indicated on the last picture of the hull. I suspect that it is looking aft towards the now-absent stern and we are shown the point where most of the hull of the ship was blown off. It appears that the keel remains extending into the distance but buried with silt and debris from the ship's continuing degradation.
I always puzzled about surveys of sunk vessels completed by PETREL. Some you get sonar images and extensive photos. I wonder if a lot of it was just not released. That is a lot of man hours, physical effort and cost just for 7 pictures. The world wonders.
There's almost certainly more material in an archive somewhere. If nothing else, from running the ROV around between where the pictures were taken. However, Petrel generally only released a *lot* of information on the big name ships. Perhaps because they didn't have good quality shots, perhaps because it wasn't seen as relevant at the time. Some ships only have a video, no set of pictures, as another example. Jintsu is notable in this regard.
Back on Battlestations Pacific, she was a beast. 2 pair+ of em split at a 45-90° bearing and release the torp spam when tgt is well within the jaws. Lattice the pattern correctly and there's really no escape. So many rage quit that I lost count.
@@spectreandromedus8661We played World of Tanks for a while (still as Wolf Pack) but slowly started playing different games. Sadly video games are no longer made for gamers, skill and tactics have fallen for stockholders profits. I never ended up getting the Xbox one or any other console since and hung up my gloves. My first console was a Fountain 2 from the 80s, greed has killed my decades of hype. ✌️, thanks for the flashbacks. P. S ZORKIN NZL was my tag
I feel that, time and place for everything. I used to run an old ColecoVision when I started out. Run a budget PC these days, does what I need. Good to see you're still kicking.
For what its worth, the claim that one of Shimakaze's turrets was removed goes back at least to M.J. Whitley's Destroyers of World War 2, which first came out in the late 1980's. At the time, the final photo of Shimakaze with all three turrets was only available by a lengthy search of the US National Archives. So Whitley's mistake is understandable.
Since the stern turrets are trained in exactly the same directions as in the picture taken by US aircraft I find it highly likely that they're still attached to a hull. I mean what are the chances of them landing exactly in those same positions on the seafloor floating free?
The degaussing wires in the final photo would be located directly under the aft turrets that had fallen out onto the seafloor. It is the only place where those wires would be that close to the underside of the hull/keel. The slanted section in the background is where the torpedo tubes are still attached to the deck. We can rule out the aft portion of the ship previously shown upside down, so this would be the only location.
I doubt there's footage of IJN Akikaze's wreck (Minekaze-class destroyer). When on 03.18.1943 it's crew rounded up and massacred German citizens (church missionaries) on it's deck (from Bismarck Archipelago).
During the first half of Shōwa era (昭和時代, Shōwa jidai, 1926-1945), Japanese were the basket case monsters... and the US authorities (especially Douglas MacArthur) gave emperor Shōwa (Hirohito, who oversaw everything since 1926 until 1945) full immunity from ANY prosecution. Who was the real bakemono here?
@lurkingcarrier8736 not really he realized he was accountable for the entire shit show he would have gone on radio telling the population to stand down they would have listened
Good presentation. Yep, the Shima is a high-tier ship in World Of Warships, famous for her torpedo broadside. I have one myself, and it is mainly the running costs that keep me from playing her more often.
The torpedoes didn't explode. If they did, the torpedo tubes would have been obliterated. Also, Japanese Destroyers had gunhouses (unarmored) , not true turrets. They were just designed to keep out the weather and not much else.
Nice presentation with one little error. Battleships and cruisers have turrets. Smaller ships don't have the size to have the armored barbettes. A turret is too heavy to ride on anything but an armored barbette that contains the shell and powder handling equipment robust enough to move hundreds to thousands of pounds of shells and powder bags. Mounts sit directly on the deck without a barbette. Ammo is still stored below but not as well protected as a barbette. The auxiliary guns on the big ships are also mounts which do have a heavier splinter shield, one to two inches, than the small boys but no where as safe as a 17" turret face on the Iowa class battlewagon that I had the pleasure to serve upon 1985-1989.
One of the strangest and worst destroyers ever built IMO. People mock the IJN for the Yamatos when building battleships in the carrier era was a fuckup everyone made. THIS, however, is a fuckup that genuinely was unique to the IJN, and FAR more deserving of laughing at them for since nobody else wasted resources on a destroyer with a completely pointless anti-surface specialization.
It turns out having 15 fuel-air bombs connected to 15 1000 pound bombs was not a great choice for a small warship. th-cam.com/video/Eow75v6Qens/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this, it's sad as she was such a beautiful unique ship. I loved her as a kid and Tamiya's first waterline model of her was also unique as it had a metal waterline plate.
I think she is also done in 1/350 scale
@@73northYup. Hasegawa makes a 1/350 of her. I’ve built it, and it’s a nice kit.
Same. I was about 10 and it was 1/700 scale
5:30 Yeah that's lazy people getting their facts wrong. In 1944, surviving destroyers from the Fubuki, Asashio and Kagerō classes did have their number 2 turrets removed, for more light AA mounts. But not Shimakaze or the Yūgumo class, since they had the newer type D turret, which had enough elevation to (theoretically) be used for AA fire.
Sadge my favourite bunny Destroyer is in such a rough shape 😢
another unique sunken ship, somewhat obscure, thanks for the continued content..sunken vessles def have a mystique and wonder about them..
For IJN Connoisseurs only 🍷🧐
Shimmakaze was the apex of Japanese destroyer design. She had a top speed exceeding forty knots.
Great unique Destroyer. One of a kind. With 3 x Quintuple Torpedo tubes from memory.
Both the Shimakaze and Kitakami never got to use their massive torpedo armaments.
@@maineiacmanKitakami only had her 10 quadruple torpedo launchers for a single year. August 1941 until August 1942. After that, 4 launchers got removed, and she was rebuild to transport torpedos from one location to another. She was essentially an armed supply ship for the rest of the war.
The Gridleys actually had even more torpedoes than Shimakaze.
✌️🏴 Always looked deadly, when I first saw photos of it in 1965.
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@@buck9739what?
So great of you to share these lost ships. I truly appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos. Thank you and keep up the good work!
I take it how she's portrayed in KanColle is what makes her so popular.
Poor Shimakaze
Looks like her bunny ears did not survive
Thank you, Easter Bunny... bok, bok! -Cadbury
Well at least that version isn’t wearing a thong
@@d.olivergutierrez8690KanColle joke: Something rhymes with thong, as young men opt to cosplay as her as practical jokes
My first 1/700 scale waterline model
The bearing from the picture of the port shaft and screw is very close to the same bearing indicated on the last picture of the hull. I suspect that it is looking aft towards the now-absent stern and we are shown the point where most of the hull of the ship was blown off.
It appears that the keel remains extending into the distance but buried with silt and debris from the ship's continuing degradation.
I always puzzled about surveys of sunk vessels completed by PETREL. Some you get sonar images and extensive photos. I wonder if a lot of it was just not released. That is a lot of man hours, physical effort and cost just for 7 pictures. The world wonders.
There's almost certainly more material in an archive somewhere. If nothing else, from running the ROV around between where the pictures were taken. However, Petrel generally only released a *lot* of information on the big name ships. Perhaps because they didn't have good quality shots, perhaps because it wasn't seen as relevant at the time.
Some ships only have a video, no set of pictures, as another example. Jintsu is notable in this regard.
Built the 1/700 waterline model of this ship as a kid.
Back on Battlestations Pacific, she was a beast. 2 pair+ of em split at a 45-90° bearing and release the torp spam when tgt is well within the jaws. Lattice the pattern correctly and there's really no escape. So many rage quit that I lost count.
Wolf Pack never rage quit.
Miss the crew.
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Hey right on! I think I remember y'all from the old xbox days. It's been a really long time tho. Y'all still doing ok, everybody good?
@@spectreandromedus8661We played World of Tanks for a while (still as Wolf Pack) but slowly started playing different games.
Sadly video games are no longer made for gamers, skill and tactics have fallen for stockholders profits.
I never ended up getting the Xbox one or any other console since and hung up my gloves.
My first console was a Fountain 2 from the 80s, greed has killed my decades of hype.
✌️, thanks for the flashbacks.
P. S ZORKIN NZL was my tag
I feel that, time and place for everything. I used to run an old ColecoVision when I started out. Run a budget PC these days, does what I need. Good to see you're still kicking.
0:59 “And because……we’ll things that have little to do with the ship herself”
You tried so hard to not mention Kantai Collection and Azure Lane.
For what its worth, the claim that one of Shimakaze's turrets was removed goes back at least to M.J. Whitley's Destroyers of World War 2, which first came out in the late 1980's. At the time, the final photo of Shimakaze with all three turrets was only available by a lengthy search of the US National Archives. So Whitley's mistake is understandable.
Since the stern turrets are trained in exactly the same directions as in the picture taken by US aircraft I find it highly likely that they're still attached to a hull. I mean what are the chances of them landing exactly in those same positions on the seafloor floating free?
Only destroyer in Axis & Allies War at Sea with the most powerful torpedo attack line
1:08 Kancolle? XD
Kancolle, Azur Lane. I prefer the Azur Lane version, she's a cute bouncy bunny girl
@@Arutimaagreed
'Other things...' Perhaps you mean things with the initials of 'KC' and 'AL?'
Please, if possible, make a video about the SS Rio Grande, it was the deepest shipwreck before the discovery of Johnston and Samuel B Roberts
I had to watch because of the ship and WOWS, she was my first love in the game. Do you have an Asashio video?
The degaussing wires in the final photo would be located directly under the aft turrets that had fallen out onto the seafloor. It is the only place where those wires would be that close to the underside of the hull/keel. The slanted section in the background is where the torpedo tubes are still attached to the deck. We can rule out the aft portion of the ship previously shown upside down, so this would be the only location.
We can probably rule out most of what you say.
Well, that was rude. What’s your theory on the location of said picture?
I wonder how Shimakaze would have changed the battle off Samar had she been allowed to attack.
In the USN, destroyer guns are in a mount. Cruiser and battleship guns are in a turret. Is it different in the IJN?
8:04 Those are the torpedo reload rails
I doubt there's footage of IJN Akikaze's wreck (Minekaze-class destroyer). When on 03.18.1943 it's crew rounded up and massacred German citizens (church missionaries) on it's deck (from Bismarck Archipelago).
I read somewhere that Akikaze had no survivors. Considering the war crime committed on her, they had it coming. Karma is a bitch.
It would be nice to know how many hopefully became chew toys for sharks.
During the first half of Shōwa era (昭和時代, Shōwa jidai, 1926-1945), Japanese were the basket case monsters... and the US authorities (especially Douglas MacArthur) gave emperor Shōwa (Hirohito, who oversaw everything since 1926 until 1945) full immunity from ANY prosecution. Who was the real bakemono here?
Pretty sure the Japanese would not execute its allies citizens Germany would have flipped out most time German citizens were honored guests
@lurkingcarrier8736 not really he realized he was accountable for the entire shit show he would have gone on radio telling the population to stand down they would have listened
All her flaunting about her speed and still got destroyed by a plane.
Good presentation.
Yep, the Shima is a high-tier ship in World Of Warships, famous for her torpedo broadside. I have one myself, and it is mainly the running costs that keep me from playing her more often.
The torpedoes didn't explode. If they did, the torpedo tubes would have been obliterated. Also, Japanese Destroyers had gunhouses (unarmored) , not true turrets. They were just designed to keep out the weather and not much else.
Thanks for this. I've never played WOWS but I know the "wall of skill" meme.
Considering that Japan lost the majority of their warships during the battle, I'm curious to find out just how many are left to find on the seafloor😊
Its really too bad there isn't a sketch putting this all into perspective as with many other wrecks.
shimakaze is the most popular ship with blond hair and bunny ears
Was this one of "Destroyer-Captain"-Tameichi--Hara's-Destroyers-??--One tough Hombr'e-!!
How deep is this wreck?
715 feet deep
@@manveerparmar6570Thanks!
If you look at the left side of the pictures, it stated the depth the submersible was at. It says around 210 meters.
ああ連装砲ちゃん
Sad that almost her whole crew died with her
Nice presentation with one little error. Battleships and cruisers have turrets. Smaller ships don't have the size to have the armored barbettes. A turret is too heavy to ride on anything but an armored barbette that contains the shell and powder handling equipment robust enough to move hundreds to thousands of pounds of shells and powder bags. Mounts sit directly on the deck without a barbette. Ammo is still stored below but not as well protected as a barbette. The auxiliary guns on the big ships are also mounts which do have a heavier splinter shield, one to two inches, than the small boys but no where as safe as a 17" turret face on the Iowa class battlewagon that I had the pleasure to serve upon 1985-1989.
Most people just look at the parts that they can see and call them turrets.
One of the strangest and worst destroyers ever built IMO.
People mock the IJN for the Yamatos when building battleships in the carrier era was a fuckup everyone made. THIS, however, is a fuckup that genuinely was unique to the IJN, and FAR more deserving of laughing at them for since nobody else wasted resources on a destroyer with a completely pointless anti-surface specialization.
I’m here because of azur lane
島風❕最後はどんなにか?悔しかったかも❗最高速の速度、魚雷攻撃ならば
青い殺人者の魚雷攻撃で、アメリカ海軍に、ひと泡食らわせられたのだろうが❕オルモックでの輸送護衛任務では😢さぞかし悔しい最後だったのでは?
Not the sweet young thing I saw in fleet girls, Kan Kolle
😀
Poi
shimikaze is broken in world of warships legends
It turns out having 15 fuel-air bombs connected to 15 1000 pound bombs was not a great choice for a small warship.
th-cam.com/video/Eow75v6Qens/w-d-xo.html
War thunder version torpedo spam
First
I never forgive the US
For what?
World of warships and Azur lane. You can say it, lmao hahaha