Knowing what Joker had done to Harley during their relationship for years I imagine that Harley Quinn fans were just hoping one day she would kill him or break up with him and go on her own. Harley breaking up with Joker was the right thing to do and now she's arguably more popular now than she was while with Joker
It's really bizarre that Batman Beyond : The Return of the Joker has a completely different death of the Joker in the European version of the movie. In the European version he ends up dying via Electrocution, which he does to himself by accident.
There's also the horrible portrayal of Joker and Harley's "relationship" in the Suicide Squad movie. Harley is far better off without Joker these days, especially since she's found relationships which are healthy and loving on both sides.
Comic books are.... crazy af. One of many things I CLEARLY missed out on growing up. How exactly do comics even work? Do different writers just use the characters and create whatever story they want to? Is there any real.... um, "origin comics"? Do these vastly different stories using the same characters connect to one another in any way? For instance, is there a comic with a Joker character that can be truly considered THE Joker that all these other Jokers originate from? Or are they completely unique stories, each having their own distinct origin story for all main characters? I appreciate anyone able to explain these things to me! Hopefully I'm clear in what I am asking
From my understanding, it's a bit of both, usually explained by there being a sort of "main" universe and several "multiverses" where other offshoots/spinoff stories can take place. At least, that's how it is for most of DC and Marvel comics
The whole having multiple Harleys and not noticing her vanishing for a year makes perfect sense, given the mind of Joker. He probably looked for Harley when she vanished but forgot right away as something distracted him, like catching a greenhouse on fire when Ivy was near, seeing a puppy to kick, or giving a frightened puppy that was kicked to a home where it will seek safety in to have it fart out Joker gas in that home later.
Batman: Return of the Joker is probably the best thing to come from the DCAU, and as tough as it is to see what happened to this iteration of Tim Drake, he managed to get the most appropriate last words from the Joker: That's not funny!
Knowing what Joker has done with Harley Quinn, I'm glad they broke up in Birds of Prey, seeing her being on her own is better for her, and at least in the Harley Quinn TV she got Ivy
@@tfmaster96 I bet there's an echo when you have a thought. There must be a lot of room inside that skull. If your sad idea is that fictional characters should all be nice, then you're a complete moron. That's MY point, and thanks for proving it.
Hey man I have a whole new appreciation for your videos I made my first one last week an it’s much harder then you make it look I plan to upload every Saturday
It's only a minor thing, but didn't the 2008 joker graphic novel come out close enough to the movie that the similarity's are coincidental? That's what I thought at least, you wouldn't be able to rush out a graphic novel in 2 months
That's literally the base of the character. A man who is beyond redemption, who always tries to show Batman how they are not much different from the other, but always ending in the same conclusion. Joker chose go down the path of evil, his mental illness never was a justification.
Quinn was abused by the Joker. I still think she's a bad guy. She has done horrible things and she wasn't forced to do them. The Joker didn't have to torture her to get her to kill people.
Is WhatCultureComics under the misconception that Batman comics were for little kids who can’t handle being uncomfortable at seeing bad guys showing exactly why they are called bad guys.
That last one was completely pointless m. Yes it sucks, Harley was abused but she kept going back to him but it has nothing to do with normalizing that type of relationship
There's no such a thing like inappropriate for a character like the Joker. That's what he is, whatever he does should be evil. Whoever looking for something else in this character is just plain stupid.
There’s no such thing as inappropriate stories, if you start thinking like that you start going down the authoritarian wrong think path. Was it in bad taste sure but that doesn’t make it inappropriate.
I find it very hard to feel any sympathy for the character of Harley quin. She was an intelligent phycologist that knew the Joker was a cold psycho killer yet instead of studying him and even though it was a lost to try to rehabilitate him she for reasons decided to fall in love with him and let him loose on the world. Kind of deserves what she gets considering she is responsible for what she has done both on her own and with or under the jokers guidance.
That is lk victim blaming. Of course she should've known better but she fell in love. Not that that excuses all her crimes, but Joker is a master manipulator and manipulated and abused her into becoming his partner in crime. Of course she was intelligent but that doesn't mean she can't make any mistakes. She had love, empathy and hope for him and it was her job after all to "fix" him not just say "yeah he has no chance of getting sane". She tried helping him but he seduced her. Nobody is saying Harley is a complete innocent angel but without him she wouldn't have pursued a life of crime (after all without him she later kind of became good). She might have made some mistakes but none of that excuses the physical, mental, verbal and emotional abuse and torture she had to endure for years, all inflicted upon her from the man she loved the most. Many abuse victims stay with their abusers out of love or being trapped and that was exactly what happened to her and why she kept running back. So she definitely is a victim, even though that doesn't excuse her horrible crimes.
@@tessie63la Too many people white night for women in abusive relationships don't get me wrong a lot of them do not deserve what they get. However so many are masterful manipulators and a use it as the excuse to do evil acts.
@@stevedenis8292 Those are pretty rare cases and most of them learn to become manipulators through being manipulated themselves so you can't really blame the victims for that. Plus in Harleys case she literally would've never had become a criminal without him, like sure there is an Id that every person has, the side in them that is unhinged but Joker still brought out that side intentionally to manipulate and shape her how he wanted without Harley even wanting it. And sure Harley has her faults and isn't perfect, but at least she managed to do some good and even help people while still being that person Joker "created" so I think she is inspirational for that. And in most comics she went through so much so I find it hard to not have any empathy for her. And it's not like people just randomly "white knight" for her for no reason, Joker does the most horrific things to her while still claiming her as his "girlfriend" and trapping her in a cycle of abuse, brainwashing her into thinking that the abuse is a way of him showing his love or just what she deserves.
Exactly my thoughts as I watched this video, especially when he said that it was "inappropriate for the medium of comics." It was that thought process that brought in all that censorship in the 50's that is still affecting comics today.
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Knowing what Joker had done to Harley during their relationship for years I imagine that Harley Quinn fans were just hoping one day she would kill him or break up with him and go on her own. Harley breaking up with Joker was the right thing to do and now she's arguably more popular now than she was while with Joker
Preach! Nothing like reading a good comment to start the day
I was thinking and hoping Harley was going to kill Joker at the end of "Joker War" but unfortunately it didn't happen.
Nobody like the comment
It's at 69
Nah they just wanna wear her character as their personality because they're for whatever reason enamoured by shitty abusive toxic relationships.
have a shot of tequila everytime jewels says "jester of genocide"
you ain't making it too the club tonight dawg
It's really bizarre that Batman Beyond : The Return of the Joker has a completely different death of the Joker in the European version of the movie. In the European version he ends up dying via Electrocution, which he does to himself by accident.
There's also the horrible portrayal of Joker and Harley's "relationship" in the Suicide Squad movie.
Harley is far better off without Joker these days, especially since she's found relationships which are healthy and loving on both sides.
Yup. And has become a helluva better awesome character
It did a decent job at showing Harley’s obsession with joker though
Comic books are.... crazy af. One of many things I CLEARLY missed out on growing up. How exactly do comics even work? Do different writers just use the characters and create whatever story they want to? Is there any real.... um, "origin comics"? Do these vastly different stories using the same characters connect to one another in any way? For instance, is there a comic with a Joker character that can be truly considered THE Joker that all these other Jokers originate from? Or are they completely unique stories, each having their own distinct origin story for all main characters? I appreciate anyone able to explain these things to me! Hopefully I'm clear in what I am asking
i genuinely want to know as well. Always wanted to get into them but it seems confusing to me
From my understanding, it's a bit of both, usually explained by there being a sort of "main" universe and several "multiverses" where other offshoots/spinoff stories can take place.
At least, that's how it is for most of DC and Marvel comics
The answer is yes
The whole having multiple Harleys and not noticing her vanishing for a year makes perfect sense, given the mind of Joker. He probably looked for Harley when she vanished but forgot right away as something distracted him, like catching a greenhouse on fire when Ivy was near, seeing a puppy to kick, or giving a frightened puppy that was kicked to a home where it will seek safety in to have it fart out Joker gas in that home later.
Batman: Return of the Joker is probably the best thing to come from the DCAU, and as tough as it is to see what happened to this iteration of Tim Drake, he managed to get the most appropriate last words from the Joker: That's not funny!
I was glad to see that Brian Azzerello’s Joker was mentioned but, number 2? That was the best Joker story I’ve ever read
Knowing what Joker has done with Harley Quinn, I'm glad they broke up in Birds of Prey, seeing her being on her own is better for her, and at least in the Harley Quinn TV she got Ivy
and yet people still try and justify him.
and yet people are still dumb enough to expect fictional villains to behave morally
@@simpleanswer8954 thanks for proving my point.
@@tfmaster96 I bet there's an echo when you have a thought. There must be a lot of room inside that skull.
If your sad idea is that fictional characters should all be nice, then you're a complete moron. That's MY point, and thanks for proving it.
@@simpleanswer8954 way to not be petty. 🙂
i swear you've made this video like 3 times
So, based on your name, you're thinkin' 8998 more to go
Hey man I have a whole new appreciation for your videos I made my first one last week an it’s much harder then you make it look I plan to upload every Saturday
take a shot everytime he uses a nick name for the joker
Jules, you are a legend, I hope that you are keeping well
It's only a minor thing, but didn't the 2008 joker graphic novel come out close enough to the movie that the similarity's are coincidental? That's what I thought at least, you wouldn't be able to rush out a graphic novel in 2 months
Number 1-9- Genocide, murder, driving people to madness.
Number 10- He ignored his girlfriend
4:21
Since when is KILLING CHILDREN a MISDEMEANOR?!
A lesson is learned: Just because you know of a particular word doesn't mean you can just use it without actually knowing what it means.
They've crossed so many lines in comics it's just insane
And some people still say that Joker is bRoKeN
Wait. Haven't they done this list before? I mean, how many times are they going to cover eating all the Chinese? A hundred?
This right here is y I side with Supes and the Red Hood. 😂
👑 Jules! A nod of respect from one Jules to another! High Five!✋
Joker is a despicable character with no redeeming qualities that I've grown quite tired of.
Actually, he has one good quality…
…he hates nazis
You think villains are supposed to have redeeming qualities? Apparently you don't understand fiction.
Bro they are villains, that’s their point
That's literally the base of the character. A man who is beyond redemption, who always tries to show Batman how they are not much different from the other, but always ending in the same conclusion. Joker chose go down the path of evil, his mental illness never was a justification.
It's the Joker... nothing is inappropriate because that's like the whole point of his character... that's like being upset Punisher shot someone
10:33 thank you for addressing this!
Was #Jokerdidnothingwrong ever a thing?
Jit tripping
I definitely ship Harley with Ivy
Same
same here
This is 99% a reupload i am certain
Some of these Joker plots are just disgusting, I’m surprised at the writers who come up with them.
Eating the whole lot of China was funny, though…
oh boy cross the line comics 😳
Jules we need a "these things suck" on the comic channel
Lore of 10 Most Inappropriate Joker Storylines momentum 100
1:00 I'm sorry the blimp what?
DUDE rate this video like 13 plus or smth, there are kids on this app, but Grat video bro keep it up.
Helpful 😅 helpful.
Quinn was abused by the Joker. I still think she's a bad guy. She has done horrible things and she wasn't forced to do them. The Joker didn't have to torture her to get her to kill people.
4:08 and worse is, this is literally happening in our country, Iran
People who watched the video bcoz of the thumbnail
👇
Forgot about Jason todd
Joker got revenge on China, cuz he's the dawg
Hehe i love it, the more inappropriate the better
Joker bombs Gotham TH-camcon because he is mad at all the hate his favorite TH-camr “DreamSMP” is getting.
I guarantee you this will be canon
Is WhatCultureComics under the misconception that Batman comics were for little kids who can’t handle being uncomfortable at seeing bad guys showing exactly why they are called bad guys.
Who would win thanos with all stones or emperor joker.
Bill finger
Re-upload...
Jester of toilet cleaning
Gesture of Genocide
JOKER 1#
Murder is a felony--not a misdemeanor. Get it straight, Brit.
Why just why
That last one was completely pointless m. Yes it sucks, Harley was abused but she kept going back to him but it has nothing to do with normalizing that type of relationship
There's no such a thing like inappropriate for a character like the Joker.
That's what he is, whatever he does should be evil.
Whoever looking for something else in this character is just plain stupid.
Yes I agree whoever looks for anything else is stupid like you acting like a 11 year old over a comic character like bro get a life
The dark knight is the ugliest comic I've ever seen. I just got reminded that seeing it next to other nice art.
Heath ledger wad better than Mark hamill ( change my mind )
They're both good at different stuff, so that's not correct to compare them
Okay! *gets super sneezing powder and funnel*
I didn't realize I was early, huh neat
Same
There’s no such thing as inappropriate stories, if you start thinking like that you start going down the authoritarian wrong think path. Was it in bad taste sure but that doesn’t make it inappropriate.
I find it very hard to feel any sympathy for the character of Harley quin. She was an intelligent phycologist that knew the Joker was a cold psycho killer yet instead of studying him and even though it was a lost to try to rehabilitate him she for reasons decided to fall in love with him and let him loose on the world. Kind of deserves what she gets considering she is responsible for what she has done both on her own and with or under the jokers guidance.
You just basically said you dont feel bad for people in abusive relationships….thats fucked up
@@Canrugger Incent people deserve pity and help those that are equally evil deserve nothing but what they get.
That is lk victim blaming. Of course she should've known better but she fell in love. Not that that excuses all her crimes, but Joker is a master manipulator and manipulated and abused her into becoming his partner in crime. Of course she was intelligent but that doesn't mean she can't make any mistakes. She had love, empathy and hope for him and it was her job after all to "fix" him not just say "yeah he has no chance of getting sane". She tried helping him but he seduced her. Nobody is saying Harley is a complete innocent angel but without him she wouldn't have pursued a life of crime (after all without him she later kind of became good). She might have made some mistakes but none of that excuses the physical, mental, verbal and emotional abuse and torture she had to endure for years, all inflicted upon her from the man she loved the most. Many abuse victims stay with their abusers out of love or being trapped and that was exactly what happened to her and why she kept running back. So she definitely is a victim, even though that doesn't excuse her horrible crimes.
@@tessie63la Too many people white night for women in abusive relationships don't get me wrong a lot of them do not deserve what they get. However so many are masterful manipulators and a use it as the excuse to do evil acts.
@@stevedenis8292 Those are pretty rare cases and most of them learn to become manipulators through being manipulated themselves so you can't really blame the victims for that. Plus in Harleys case she literally would've never had become a criminal without him, like sure there is an Id that every person has, the side in them that is unhinged but Joker still brought out that side intentionally to manipulate and shape her how he wanted without Harley even wanting it. And sure Harley has her faults and isn't perfect, but at least she managed to do some good and even help people while still being that person Joker "created" so I think she is inspirational for that. And in most comics she went through so much so I find it hard to not have any empathy for her. And it's not like people just randomly "white knight" for her for no reason, Joker does the most horrific things to her while still claiming her as his "girlfriend" and trapping her in a cycle of abuse, brainwashing her into thinking that the abuse is a way of him showing his love or just what she deserves.
Joker beating up Harley is never not funny. Joker not loving her at all while she worships him is exactly what MAKES it funny.
What's "inappropriate" for an evil psychotic mass murderer? Entirely subjective pearl clutching. "Won't somebody think of the children?"🙄
Exactly my thoughts as I watched this video, especially when he said that it was "inappropriate for the medium of comics." It was that thought process that brought in all that censorship in the 50's that is still affecting comics today.
I’m early
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Who asked
@@twotimegoofy I did
@@silverbink ok?
@@twotimegoofy oh sorry, I thought this was the secret code to rush all of the units stationed on Mars to attack earth
Thumbnail is sad, because alot of chicks gravitate towards that.
Disappointing🥱oh, well going to eat some steak.
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