Considering the Guanches were just about genocided when the Spanish invaded, the interpretation of Guanche culture with Spanish culture is bordering on disgusting. That is like saying Spanish culture is typically represented at Empuries.
What are you talking about? I suppose that for an anglo the concept of mixing or integrate native populations in a new society after a conquest is an odd idea, but that's just what happened in Canary Islands. The conquest and the following years were violent, bloody, unjust, as all conquests are, but the behaviour and interactions between iberian peoples and native populations after the conquest was totally different to what would happened if pirates from some northern rainy island arrived first, contrary to the english race-obsessed model, iberians and guanches just mixed. The guanches weren't genocided, the survivors of the war, the vast majority, just baptized and mixed (deeply) with the recently arrived iberians or other europeans. At 1500-1510 after the first wave civil iberian migration, still vast majority of the population was native guanches. According the few genetic studies we have on early modern era bodies, at XVII century e.g. the aboriginal canarian ancestry continued to be majoritary. Since XVIII century the canarian population received the influx of a second wave of extra-insular populations (europeans or sub-saharan africans mostly, with some other american or northern african minorities) so the share of native ancestry in the general population decreased, but even today the canarian people, product of that mixing, has a very relevant aboriginal canarian ancestry (30-50% according different studies, over 60-70% on the mother side in some islands). Even the guanche language (language is one of the first things to change after a conquest after religion) survived in some isolated pockets the hispanization until XVIII century. On the other hand the representation shown here is about a popular legend about the contact of guanches with christian images, arrived in shipwrecks or with pre-conquest missionaries that it's something sourced already in XVI century authors. Some of the oldest Virgin images in the islands are pretty old, from XIII-XIV, so it's pretty possible the popular legend is true. The popular interpretation of some "romantized" pre-hispanic guanches attire by their descendants (THEIR FUCKING DESCENDANTS) is not "disgusting" but a lovely tradition, showing respect for their ancestors. I would prefer a "historically accurate representation", but this a popular-religious festivity not an academic reenactment. BTW, the example in peninsular Spain would not be Empuries obviously. Empuries was just a city, an isolated and extremely minoritary foreign culture (greek) in a sea of totally different peoples and 2500-2300 years ago so after the first big change with romanization, some other deep changes happened in the region, or entire peninsula cultures. Phoenicians in the South would have been a much better example (as they arrived first, populated far more territory, were far more influential in other populations of the region and remained "punic" far more time than the tiny greek population in eastern Catalonia after Rome arrival), still they are not the best example as there were at least 3/4 big historical-cultural changes after them. The example should be the "last" change, the last conquest, as in Canary Islands case. So in Iberia, clearly Al-Andalus... And of course we, southern peoples of Iberia (or I would say... 2/3 of iberians) are HEIRS of Al-Andalus, culturally and demographically. We are product of conquest, a colonization, a mixing and a deep change (forced) in culture... exactly as canarians are. Our popular architecture or gastronomy among many other cultural aspects continue to be hybrid, the mix between andalusi and northern iberian kingdoms traditions.
@@antoniomoreno8045 I don't particularly disgree with anything you have said here. As you are an Iberian I am pleased to see that you have a deep understanding of these histories. It is only then that a rational debate can take place. It is a matter of history that Christianity (Semetism) is an evil predatory culture. And although the histories of our respective lands (Andalucia and The British Isles) are lost, hidden, and destroyed, in the depths of time, there are many examples in the modern era of what must have happened in the past to our ancestors. South America, Australia, North America. But this must not be confused with the historic claims of national colonisation. It is much deeper than that. This example is typical : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system And even this very day, we see the same process being implemented in Afghanistan. Christian missionairies spearhead the assault on Afghanistan, not soldiers. The native culture and adherents are demonised. We have a common heritage in Iberia and The British Isles (incl Ireland) : Celtic. And for thousands of years our shared culture prospered in relative harmony. Even the Romans were not originally predatory, as in the case of Empuries. That is until The Edict of Milan. Which was itself part of the greater conquest depicted at The Council of Nicea. This was an aggressive takeover by Semetism. And it hasn't stopped. It is not a surprise to suppose that the same process occurred in Macaronesia. Although integration may be claimed, there is a lot of contrary evidence. The Canary Islands had been spared the wrath of Christianity, only because of its' isolation. There isn't much data to detail the invasion, but even with that data, there is always a very important part that is demoted to subtext. The Guanches were very tall, with light hair, light skin, and blue eyes. Show me where this attribute still exists in The Canary Islands ? Because I can show you where it exists very close to The Canary Islands, at another enemy of Semetism. The Barbarian people of North Africa (Amazigh). And where is this peoples cultural centre today ? Libya. See a pattern emerging ? Our true cultural heritage in Europe has not so much been integrated, throttled is a better description. In the UK, even today, paganism is regarded as devil worship, and is in many cases punishable by law. Todays information age is exposing the facts that have been for so long suppressed. Our respective empires of Europe were not always ultra aggressive and predatory. It is not in our nature, but has been imposed into our broken cultures. The resulting global unrest will not be solved until Semetism is rejected.
The Guanches are ethnical Amazighs and were forced to convert back In the day when the Roman's ruled
We are one
Tamazgha ⵣ ♥️
This is not what the Guanches wore. This is pathetic and insulting to the Guanches.
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Considering the Guanches were just about genocided when the Spanish invaded, the interpretation of Guanche culture with Spanish culture is bordering on disgusting. That is like saying Spanish culture is typically represented at Empuries.
What are you talking about? I suppose that for an anglo the concept of mixing or integrate native populations in a new society after a conquest is an odd idea, but that's just what happened in Canary Islands. The conquest and the following years were violent, bloody, unjust, as all conquests are, but the behaviour and interactions between iberian peoples and native populations after the conquest was totally different to what would happened if pirates from some northern rainy island arrived first, contrary to the english race-obsessed model, iberians and guanches just mixed. The guanches weren't genocided, the survivors of the war, the vast majority, just baptized and mixed (deeply) with the recently arrived iberians or other europeans. At 1500-1510 after the first wave civil iberian migration, still vast majority of the population was native guanches. According the few genetic studies we have on early modern era bodies, at XVII century e.g. the aboriginal canarian ancestry continued to be majoritary. Since XVIII century the canarian population received the influx of a second wave of extra-insular populations (europeans or sub-saharan africans mostly, with some other american or northern african minorities) so the share of native ancestry in the general population decreased, but even today the canarian people, product of that mixing, has a very relevant aboriginal canarian ancestry (30-50% according different studies, over 60-70% on the mother side in some islands). Even the guanche language (language is one of the first things to change after a conquest after religion) survived in some isolated pockets the hispanization until XVIII century.
On the other hand the representation shown here is about a popular legend about the contact of guanches with christian images, arrived in shipwrecks or with pre-conquest missionaries that it's something sourced already in XVI century authors. Some of the oldest Virgin images in the islands are pretty old, from XIII-XIV, so it's pretty possible the popular legend is true.
The popular interpretation of some "romantized" pre-hispanic guanches attire by their descendants (THEIR FUCKING DESCENDANTS) is not "disgusting" but a lovely tradition, showing respect for their ancestors. I would prefer a "historically accurate representation", but this a popular-religious festivity not an academic reenactment.
BTW, the example in peninsular Spain would not be Empuries obviously. Empuries was just a city, an isolated and extremely minoritary foreign culture (greek) in a sea of totally different peoples and 2500-2300 years ago so after the first big change with romanization, some other deep changes happened in the region, or entire peninsula cultures. Phoenicians in the South would have been a much better example (as they arrived first, populated far more territory, were far more influential in other populations of the region and remained "punic" far more time than the tiny greek population in eastern Catalonia after Rome arrival), still they are not the best example as there were at least 3/4 big historical-cultural changes after them. The example should be the "last" change, the last conquest, as in Canary Islands case. So in Iberia, clearly Al-Andalus... And of course we, southern peoples of Iberia (or I would say... 2/3 of iberians) are HEIRS of Al-Andalus, culturally and demographically. We are product of conquest, a colonization, a mixing and a deep change (forced) in culture... exactly as canarians are. Our popular architecture or gastronomy among many other cultural aspects continue to be hybrid, the mix between andalusi and northern iberian kingdoms traditions.
@@antoniomoreno8045 I don't particularly disgree with anything you have said here. As you are an Iberian I am pleased to see that you have a deep understanding of these histories. It is only then that a rational debate can take place.
It is a matter of history that Christianity (Semetism) is an evil predatory culture. And although the histories of our respective lands (Andalucia and The British Isles) are lost, hidden, and destroyed, in the depths of time, there are many examples in the modern era of what must have happened in the past to our ancestors. South America, Australia, North America. But this must not be confused with the historic claims of national colonisation. It is much deeper than that. This example is typical : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system
And even this very day, we see the same process being implemented in Afghanistan. Christian missionairies spearhead the assault on Afghanistan, not soldiers. The native culture and adherents are demonised.
We have a common heritage in Iberia and The British Isles (incl Ireland) : Celtic. And for thousands of years our shared culture prospered in relative harmony. Even the Romans were not originally predatory, as in the case of Empuries. That is until The Edict of Milan. Which was itself part of the greater conquest depicted at The Council of Nicea. This was an aggressive takeover by Semetism. And it hasn't stopped.
It is not a surprise to suppose that the same process occurred in Macaronesia. Although integration may be claimed, there is a lot of contrary evidence. The Canary Islands had been spared the wrath of Christianity, only because of its' isolation. There isn't much data to detail the invasion, but even with that data, there is always a very important part that is demoted to subtext. The Guanches were very tall, with light hair, light skin, and blue eyes. Show me where this attribute still exists in The Canary Islands ? Because I can show you where it exists very close to The Canary Islands, at another enemy of Semetism. The Barbarian people of North Africa (Amazigh). And where is this peoples cultural centre today ? Libya. See a pattern emerging ?
Our true cultural heritage in Europe has not so much been integrated, throttled is a better description. In the UK, even today, paganism is regarded as devil worship, and is in many cases punishable by law. Todays information age is exposing the facts that have been for so long suppressed. Our respective empires of Europe were not always ultra aggressive and predatory. It is not in our nature, but has been imposed into our broken cultures. The resulting global unrest will not be solved until Semetism is rejected.
They ARE reel barbares they are not amazigh