The AR-15's Forward Assist isn't Pointless.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- The forward assist on the AR15 has good reasons for existing, and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't.
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Bro is monetized?!! I love this family friendly airsoft history channel!
Airsoft is nifty!
Hell yea! I got a frosted flakes ad next time im at the store ill buy 2 boxes of frosted flakes.
is this the evil hacker that the news warned me about??? in all seriousness, the FA hate seems to be borne out of a weird corner of min-maxy video-gamey stats obsessed people more than anything and also a weird cult around stoner and the idea is that he's infallible. closely related to govt profile hate and A2 sights hate imo
Here to spread anti-Stoner propaganda!
@@IvanPrintsGuns i'm glad someone says it! the man was not infallible
@@IvanPrintsGuns 'weed bad'
Why do you like government profile barrels?
@@PaxNovAm1776 same reason i like ur mom😏
>conceptualizes alt-hist AR-15
>describes the NCR Service Rifle
thanks m8
"Especially if your rifle is all wet slimy and oily." Was it at a P Diddy party?
Yes
I can't believe you made a 20 minute video and you dont even know that, that button is the sniper button and it enhances accuracy.
after 10 pumps ball ammo will become armor piercing
I haven’t used it a lot, but when I did it was convenient to have. During basic it was -10 to like -20 F and a lot of our bolts would freeze, or just slow down from the clp we were using. If you fired quick it wasn’t as big a deal, but in between strings of fire you’d have malfunctions. No amount of sling shotting would bring a round fully into the chamber.
But yeah it’s useful when a rifle gets to dirty. I’ve had an ar I was testing lightweight parts on, go down in less than 100 rounds when using a suppressor. The answer would be to just clean it, but sometimes you don’t have that option.
Anyways, thanks for the content!
The forward assist is vindicated. The west is healing
The forward assist also keeps the cancer dust of your fingers.
A video about the sniper button! 🎯
I forgot about that😂 GWOT lore
When I was a door gunner on the space shuttle the liquid propellant in those rounds would swell depending on if you were on the sunlight side or the dark side.
It was always needed there
😁😁
Back when I was in the coast guard armored infantry, the salt water would wreak havoc on our rifles. I appreciated having the forward assist.
Very forward assisted thinking, planning for space force deployment.
We have a short of the forward assist keeping an absolutely filthy AR in action and there are thousands of comments calling it a jam enhancer. My dudes it’s literally clearing the malfunctions before your very eyes how is it a jam enhancer.
Because if you use it wrong it jams the rifle.
sounds like a way to cause a catastrophic malfunction
Because out of shape casings getting jammed into the chamber is not good for anything. Just take your thumb and press the bolt forward, if it's just a little grit then that will seat it.
First AR was a birthday present to myself and a slick side AR. Took it out in 20°F snowy MN. A good time was not had. Being a lefty I discovered that you can tell a 5.56 from a .223 by how much the case burns you when it goes down a hoody. Between strings of shots snow blew into the action and froze the action. I immediately ordered a stripped upper with a deflector, ejection port cover, and forward assist along with the parts and tools for a better upper.
Smith And Wesson M&P Sport I?
There’s no difference between the two cartridges that makes one “burn” more, lol
I ran slickside in competition and this is one of the best explanations of the FA's existence.
In Fallout New Vegas both “assault carbine” and “marksman carbine” used forward assist as a way to cock the rifle.
Cant do that in real life other then pushing bolt forwards
Counterstrike too
No the player used a very small charging handle on the bolt
@@horseman2777counterstrike was so funny because it would stretch so far
@@pixilatedmonster Either way, it is very weird and not actually part of the AR design. Thus not using the real world design. And they do have charging handles the same way as the IRL does.
And it is very obvious they had reused animations instead of making custom from scratch. Due to time constraints. Which you do see some of them shared with different firearms.
I do like the animation replacement to an extent. Because of they aren't consistent of what the original dev's intent. It is cool to see them showing off animations, but it gets very boring very quickly. I don't know why modders never had thought of that simple task.
Even if the sig spear replaced the primary weapon platform (which it won't) it's still just an AR-10 with no buffer, beefier lugs and breach, and a short stroke gas piston instead of a tube.
It does have that hotboy caliber that shoots slightly flatter than .308 out of a shorter barrel.
Personally though I think the entire program isn't worth all the taxpayer dollars spent on it. The polymer cased ammo technology that was developed in the program is nice, but there were already companies working on that in the private sector beforehand.
it's more like a big ar-18
We could have had the smuzzle
But also it wont replace the M4 as the standard infantry rifle. Just to be clear.
@@teabullsWhich ironically would make it an AR-16, since the AR-18 was a miniaturized .223 version of that the same way the AR-15 was a miniaturized AR-10.
Kyle Rittenhouse would be DEAD without his forward assist. He stated in one of his interviews that when he was laying on his back and Guage Grosskreutz was raising his pistol at him he looked down and saw that his bolt was slightly out of battery. He tapped the forward assist and pulled the trigger. There would've been no time to rack the charging handle, and no guarantee that it would've gone into battery if he had. He had a fraction of a second. Forward assist saved his life.
@@adamscottmartin Bro What? As If.
@@adamscottmartin Even if that were true, it's an instance where the FA was useful to the user.
@@lastdayonearth8381 eh. Rittenhouse let it all go to his head. Turned into a bit of a shithead sadly.
without the forward assist, he couldve just put his finger on the bolt and closed it by pushing it forward, it wouldnt have caused him any issues because in a universe where forward assist never existed, pushing on the bolt using the finger would be widely practiced.
@FalbereChan And When It's Hot? Solution?
along with your wendigoon rebuttal, one of my other favorite videos on the AR-15 is JaredAF's video on the M16A2 and why it is the way it is.
i hate that kid he's so annoying
I seriously wonder how the actual hell anyone who has used an AR-15 hasn't at least once rode the charging handle a little bit and not gotten the extractor over the case rim and then realized why the forward assist exists.
If you ride the CH you can still shut the bolt without fully sling shotting it. You can creep it back an inch or so then slip your thumb free and it'll close.
The FA is to close in a specific condition where debris is slowing the bolt to where it can't close without aid. If you're loading up the first time and using the CH that probably isn't the concern.
@thinkharder9332 exactly Everytime I hear that I think of how absurd it is that you just had a fuck up, it didn't positively go in all the way your rifle just fucked up sorry because the AR sucks, but dealing with it by forcing the unique AR bolt in harder is like the opposite of the solution any riflemen would turn to
Couldn’t you just drop the mag and re rack the charging handle with full force?
@@jakeevans8819 Yes you can. Just don’t forget to drop the mag or you will double feed and then you’ve got a real nasty jam. The forward assist just takes less steps and is slightly more idiot proof in my opinion. 100% necessary? Of course not. Just a nice thing to have.
I for one have fired a million billion rounds underwater through my slick side during the Atlantean Hyperborean war, and most of it was in the frozen sand mud beaches of the southeastern Atlantis coast. Never once did a single round fail to chamber the whole time. 😤😤😤
Anecdotal, but I was in a class once in the back of the line during a drill. I noticed my bolt wasn’t in battery. I pressed the forward assist, the gun went into battery and ran fine. I’d rather have it and not need it than not have it and need it.
i know a airforce nam vet and from what he tells me you are correct most of the air force m16s were used for guarding and patrol which is combat like killing people trying to plant bombs or partisans
Couple of points (and I am *not* part of the "The forward assist will het you kilt in da streetz!" crowd):
1. You talk about clearing a malfunction (if you dont have a forward assist) by just mindlessly slingshotting the action until it works. Yeah, that's something the Army figured out 50 or so years ago. Which is why the SOP immediate action drill (which isn't the *best* , mind you, but the reasons why it isn't involve problems the forward assist won't help with either, like double feeds) of SPORTS has the "O" - *Observe* . See, if you jack the bolt back and nothing comes *out* of the gun, yoire supposed to lock rhe bilt back and figure out why the extractor didn't get the round out - odds are (particularly if dealing with well ised Armybissue magazines that, frankly, should have been thrown away a couple of years ago but the Army is too cheap to treat magazines as expendable wear items) you have a double feed. Which neither slingshottinf the bolt nor using the forawrd assist will help with - if either does anything, it just makes the problem worse. Hmmm... maybe doing an inmesiate action drill *correctly* instead of doing a Cargo Cult coaplay is a better course of action, no?
2. Your faith in the quality control on "modern ammunition manufacturing", at least withbregard to military issue ammo (you know, rhe stuff used by the folks who are rhe ones most lilely to be using their rifles in cases where - according to you - the forward assist is most likely to be necessary) is amusing. Getting new manufacture USGI ammo, that has been in a metal can from the day it was manufactured until it was issued to you, that is *physically bent* or otherwise mangled is hardly "get hit by lightning 5 times". Nor is it generally a "lot" problem (frankly, it wouod be better if it was - that many problem rounds in a single lot *would* get flagged and the whole lot pulled) - but one round out of an entire bandolier is a problem, too, if *you're* the guy who got issued *that* bandolier. Maybe QC for purely civilian market US made 5.56mm ammo is that good, but getting mutant rounds is common enough that you can expext to find multiple such rounds discarded at the bottoms of each and every one of the "fighting position" holes on an Army range after running a qual course for a company. And each soldier is only firing 40 rounds...
3. In actual service, as an infantry NCO (including being a Drill Sergeant at Benning), I saw a Hell of a lot more rifles malfunction from worn out magazines causing double feeds (FA won't help, and it *can* only make it worse), rounds well dimesnionally out of spec (rarely will a round top too bent up to feed with the normal bolt function from firing or closing from a locked bolt, actually go home with a FA... but Ibhave also seen a rifle bound up so badly as to have to be mortsred after someone tried to Hulk Smash the Quasimodo Cartridge home), or foreign objects like sand and mud *inside the chamber or bolt face* (and, again, FA just jams it tighter - BTDT).
Where I *have* seen FA work well are cases where you have cycled the bolt *manually* and you either short stroked it, rode the bokt down at least part way, or there was fouling between the charging handle and the upper (which adds way more drag to the bolt than most people consider). Press checking is one of those situations where you definately need a way to push the bolt home because you're WAY short stroking it on purpose so it doesnt eject a chambered round... although, if you are running the charging handle, the bolt is probably cold - otherwise you're either loading from a locked back bolt, the last round hold open didn't work (uncommon), or you're in the middle of immediate action (which is why the T is there in SPORTS - Tap the FA). But the biggest use case for manually chargung the weapon is either loading a gun *before* any firing has occured, or doing a press check (which is rarely done in the middle of a firing situation) - both of which generally mean the bolt is cold.
Summary: the forawrd assist is *overall* a good idea, however, to use it *properly* requires the same amount of training (albeit slightly different training) as teaching troops to use a "slickside" rifle that doesn't have a forward assist (like almost everybl single non-reciprocating charging handle ridle ever issues - the Israeli FAL and the utterly failed G41 were about the only major exceptions I can think of of nonreciprocaring chargung handle rifles that did have a FA type system installed. All the G3s, all the FALs aside from the Israeli pattern ones, all the G33s, etc.
Remember: it does not matter how well something works if people do not trust it. Even if it is completley redundant and frankly useless, the ability to make people feel safe is worth a lot. Does not just go with firearms, this applies to any system.
Though, that also means people could think something is safe when it is actually horrifyingly dangerous. Why people stayed on the Titanic when it was sinking.
fudds will rag on the forward assist and then go on to buy rapture kits because it makes them feel safer
Over the summer I ran a M4 through about 700 blanks without cleaning it. I utilized full auto for about 500 of those. Blanks are notoriously unreliable if there BFA (blank firing adapter) is not used correctly. There also known for running dirty. Although my BFA was used correctly, my M4 dried out about a week into this FTX. No CLP in sight. I used the forward assist for the first time, and multiple times during that FTX.
I utilized it, but that’s just my experience.
The M4 is another animal because of the feed ramps. I loved my M4 because for the first time, I wasn't having to use the forward assist all the time. With the A2, it was a constant battle, and this is across a number of issued weapons. Those things just didn't like to go into battery.
Rittenhouse literally used it, its on vid it works. Ive used it multiple times myself.
I think he actually used it.
Vortex 3x prism optic is underrated
It’s what I run
A friend and I had gone out coyote hunting a few years back, as we were loading the rifles, he had a factory loaded round that was not seated deep enough and the bullet got stuck in the rifling to the point when he did a press check, he thought his rifle jammed, he yanked on the charging handle and the casing came out, the bullet stayed in the barrel, and powder went all over him. That is the perfect situation where he should have used the forward assist.
Something Chad at SOTAR told us is using the FA to hammer to bolt into battery makes disassembling it easier if it gets that bad. Not that you can't if the bolt isn't locked but makes it much easier.
It's a godsend in 350L to feed those goddamned FMJ ammo that somehow managed to be the only thing that doesn't like feeding.
Good points all around. What are all those documents of militaries wanting a FA on their FALs and where can I find them? I‘m genuinely curious.
One point for consideration: Your argument that had the FA been useless or a detriment, it would have been omitted on later versions of the AR-15 can easily be reversed for the FAL: If the FAL really could have benefitted from a FA, why didn’t FN or any other user add one at any point in the decades it was produced and used?
Wish you did more content like this I love watching you on your podcast with fudd busters
Recent photos of The U.S. Army’s new SIG XM7 SPEAR rifles in use has shown that they’ve omitted the forward assist. What do you make of that? I agree with your points in this video.
He doesn't seem to be much of a fan of the Spear, can't say I blame him.
They realized that it’s pointless
@@BaconSlayer69Okay but it's not hurting anything so why not have it around.
This video has changed my mind on the forward assist, nice info and well presented
I like having the "jam button" just for press checks when I'm shooting matches alone. Load it up, press check, punch that button once or twice and you know for a fact that gun is gonna go bang.
Yeah that's how I use it too, tis' most wise.
I always thought they were for an open battery or a skunk keeps it from being closed but also for being quiet. A whole platoon of Marines slapping their charging handles back to charge their guns is pretty loud in the jungle.
Why would an entire platoon be within ear shot with unloaded rifles?
MG Spin E. Rat! **snaps to attention**
ATTENTION ON DECK!
Great review! The late Eugene Stoner told the U.S. Army that the forward assist is useless if the rifle is properly maintained.....The U.S. Army disagreed...since the U.S. Army wanted the M-14, not some "Plastic/Aluminum" rifle Springfield Armory could not manufacture....let alone a "Foreign" design not conceived in the U.S. such as the FN FAL....
I think no matter what your opinion is in this discussion, it is a really good sign for the AR15.
All major issues with this gun have been solved decades ago and all there is left to debate are things like the forward assist. Disadvantages of the forward assist are close to non-existing. Advantages only apply in very rare fringe cases.
The thing just works 99.9999% of the time.
Disadvantages of the forward assist are close to non-existing.
-The main issue is that the added costs of one made chromed BCG's non standard. So when the TDP is set, and mfg start copying it, they too have FA's and not chromed carriers and bolts.
Stoner explains this during his interview in the Smithsonian collection.
Bote to make the AR-understanders™ pissed
Hey Ivan, thanks for another video, glad you are enjoying making these. Been enjoying watching them.
Would love to see the reports where the users of the FAL wished it had a Forward Assist. Ive not heard that about that rifle before, that would be an interesting read.
I read about it in regards to israeli dissatisfaction with the fal, their models had a forward assist.
@@armani_5.565And the Israelis still eventually dumped the FAL in favor of their locally produced AK inspired design, the Galil.
@@gameragodzillawhich if you think about it has a forward assist. You can just smack the charging handle forward if it doesn’t go into battery
@@Jeffro_1 Any gun with a reciprocating charging handle or slide can be used as a forward assist. Hell, I’ve done it a few times with pistols when cheap ammo in a dirty gun can sometimes get hung up and I tap the slide to chamber and continue firing.
I'm gonna teach you something. The army m1 garand bolt handle is a forward assist. The ak charging handle can be smacked on. The fn fal can be smacked on.
Silent closure can matter.
A. Patrol base operations priorities of work:
1. Security
2. Maintenance (this means field strip and clean in an AO where silence is still maintained)
B. Press checks. I know you hit it before that there’s a natural paranoia to press check. In the Objective Rally Point you conduct final checks, some of those may be a press check.
C. I’ve had many instances where the forward assist chambers a slightly dented round. Yes the ideal answer is to dump that brass, but dust is a bitch too.
-a dumb army POG
I'll add something to think about. If you have a jam or even buffer system malfunction that prevents it from becoming fully seated in the chamber and have to break open the receiver to remedy the problem while having the BCG partially still in the buffer tube will definitely complicate the situation.
I have been in that situation and my FA got me "out of the jam" hehe
(Round wouldnt fully seat.... bolt still in buffer tube...can't separate the upper from lower. Mashed the FA real good and it fixed it.
The BCG scallop should be better shaped. A 90 degree at the front would be easier to push forward.
I've always wanted a BCG optimized for that
Bear creek arsenal side charging ar15
I always just hated that it was called the forward assist when it's clearly on the rear of the gun???
Fixed charging handles can be used in the same way as a forward assist, yet no ones calling them Jam Handles. Personally that beats any criticism people can throw at the forward assist.
I've used mine a couple times, it's a nice to have when your gun is running dry and you know it's most likely not an ammo issue. though a spray of CLP would usually fix any OOB issues you were having :)
You can tell Bolt is Home if Charging Handle is latched and has buffer spring tension and not free floating
Damn, I got psy-op'ed on this one hard. This is a good lecture, sometimes it's important to take a step back.
You didn't mention the way cooler teardrop FA.
Rittenhouse agrees
I feel like Ivan should do a colab with Zach Hazard
That would be awesome
Honestly I think that the Chinese made the correct choice in choosing the AK style charging handle on their HK416 copy of a rifle. Having something real solid you can grab to manipulate the bolt both front and back if you need to has benefits far beyond what you can calculate in an excel spreadsheet or simulate in FEA. I remember reading that the engineers didn't want to include that charging handle but the military people told them that it's mandatory.
Also pushing a bolt forward with your thumb after shooting several magazines is gonna be very hot
I have had many malfunctions where I get a round jammed in the chamber, and then I end up getting a double feed, whereas if I had just fired it, I usually would be able to get it out. I found that out after I started having a gun that was dirty enough that I wasn't getting loads from mags to fully chamber, and sometimes if I tried to pull the charging handle, I'd get a double feed and then be fucked, and so then I just started using the forward assist after it happened to me a few times and then it has worked every time. Not saying that I had that many of these failures, they were rare, but now the consequences of it are even more rare and less time intensive. Just giving the assist a lil tap versus having a completely locked gun that requires me to lock back the bolt and take out the mag to clear
Hey Ivan its not related to the video but I wanted to know have you ever looked into making brass cartridges from scratch? I was wondering if it could be done at home I know there's printed ammo but I think DIY brass ammo is worth pursuing
People have looked at this, it's really hard but probably doable, deep drawing brass isn't the absolute hardest thing ever but building the dies would be less than simple and likely really need to be carbide to be effective.
@@flavortown3781 I think done in multipul stages a 30 ton bottle jack might have the pressure needed and the dies could be made from HSS tool blanks. though I agree carbide is better.
That is a perfect traditional M16 setup
That AR-15 shows immaculate taste
Funny hearing these criticisms of the forward assist coming from the "better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it" crowd
This was interesting and actually changed my mind about it. Thanks for the explanation.
You need to have the bolt forward to disassemble the gun. To fix a major issue or clean a massive amount of dirt or debris from it, you have to have the bolt forward and disassemble the gun. If there's some way you've managed to get the bolt stuck to the rear, there's no way to take the gun apart until you fix it. And there's no way to get it apart until you get the bolt forward.
What are your thoughts on the Springfield Armory LevAR? Useful addition for stuck casings? Not the same issue you were discussing, just want to hear other's take on it. Been playing with it for a while now and haven't had to use it yet but it is scratching that psychological comfort zone you discussed, knowing that it's there.
Why didn't they add lots of grooves in the ejection port area of the bolt instead? The grease gun had it as a cost cutting solution that apparently worked well enough.
The grease gun had a cutout to facilitate cocking the bolt back, but not pushing it forward. Being an open bolt gun with a fixed firing pin, you really don't want to be trying to push the bolt forward manually.
To be fair, it's quiet for people who have been shooting 308 without ear pro while getting shelled for 5-10 years.
I don't have a problem with a forward assist. Can be useful sometimes.
The FA has helped me turn my rifle from and elegant paper weight to a proper metal thrower before. I will always have on eon my AR. There was no other way out of my jam.
I just like have a button to push randomly. So I'm all for having forward assist.
I have two AR15's neither have forward assists, neither have ever needed one. If a round needs to be forced into the chamber something is wrong. A bolt should never be forced closed.
This is a good informative breakdown thanks Ivan.
I forgot Alaska exists lol, knowing cold humid environments especially when it has a gradient of temperatures through out the day guns do get ice on the inside without users doing anything. Granted that is prevented with good lubrication but that wears off pretty quickly. That might be enough justification on it's own.
But I will say the forward assist even in field use doesn't get that much use. As you stated if it got grimy enough to get hung up before battery there's a solid chance a small rock or sand is blocking the bolt or stuck in the star chamber and pressing the forward assist wouldn't do anything. Or just alot of sand is in the way that it's interfering with the bolt's ability to rotate or seat in the chamber which also happens alot. On other cases if your chamber is so dirty that using the forward assist is the solution and it works, not always but say 35% ish of the time you might get a failure to extract. Generally though the above said issues are solved by using the dust cover and having the bolt open as little as possible when you are playing in the mud/sand. It doesn't make the forward assist useless, it's just one of the last resorts on the remediation process before disassembly.
It would seem like a good device to have on any rifle with a non reciprocating charging handle. Most, like the AR, only engage the bolt when pulling them rearward. Pushing them forward does nothing. In any event, while I never had to use one on any AR I have owned or shot, their presence, much like that extra roll of TP under the sink, is comforting.
ask Kyle Rittenhouse if it's useless
Can people stop glorifying that idiot from Illinois and just accept Ivan as the real person to show as a pillar of society from an evil state
Kyle Rittenhouse’s opinion is useless.
@@alexidesadeski5760how many fires did you put out in 2020? Or were you inside watching TV?
@@chadwik4000How many pairs of cop boots did you clean with your tongue in 2020?
@@alexidesadeski5760Oh? And how many pedo's have you disarmed!?
"Quick video"
>20 minutes
Never change ivan
Send this to Ian
The fudd lore around the forward assist is insufferable
Off topic- what optic is that? it fits the look i'm going for perfect.
Does anti-forward assistism go back past inrangetv?
Yes, Eugene Stoner was the original Anti-Forward Assistism advocate. Gun Jesus has popularized it for a new generation though.
I recall discussing the forward assist and its relevance in the late 90s. No I did not go on a lot of dates, why do you ask?
I have used the forward assist. But my rifle was basically inoperable from carbon build up
The magpul mag in an m16 is tickling my tism. Usgi or bust!
The impression and mannerisms are so good I had to check who’s video I clicked👍😂
I can see the spear taking over if we figure out cheaper graphite molding technology. Similar strength to brass/steel at a fraction of the weight, with more powder for defeating body armor is a good incentive. The polymer cases were a good start, but the lack of recycling I think was the main issue.
with more powder for defeating body armor is a good incentive.
-Never was a program requirement nor stated to be. It's just a thing that some article said that got repeated over and over.
I have only handled an AR a couple times. Why can't you just push the charging handle forward? What does the forward assist do that makes it require less force?
Because the CH can only pull the bolt carrier backwards, not push it forwards. The CH has a hole in the front that the gas tube/key goes through, but it's not attached to the bolt carrier.
Charging handle is non-reciprocating, so it’s not attached to the bolt every time, so you can use it to pull back on the bolt but not forward.
Guns with reciprocating charging handles like the AK can use the charging handle that way, as can pistols with reciprocating slides.
Great video sir
2 of my ars don’t have forward assists and I’ve never needed to use it
Sending hate
If you ain't cleaning your rifle then you deserve to use the stupid forward assist
we are rats we are rats we are rats
That's a legit analysis
I've had to use mine twice, thankfully never in somekind of life or death situation. I swapped the part to a titanium piece to save weight, time will tell if the material change will cuck me but at least its there still.
Honestly I'm just surprised you managed to restrain the forward assist autism to only 20 minutes.
Great video
So can someone point to me when they dropped the 601 CH? Cause if they were insistant on slingshotting it into battery, those CH's have virtually 0 grip surface and it would constantly slip through your fingers trying that. And forget about mittens or gloves with that stupid ass thing.
Is this the new enlightenment or heresy? Sometimes I don't know what to believe; but I know I must be either for or against the forward doodad.
We never used in when I was in the service but then again i never kept my rifle dirty
All I knew about the forward-assist is that God put it there to save Kyle Rittenhouse
Thank you for clarifying that its there for more reasons than Fudd memes could elucidate
FA to me is belt and suspenders thought.
I hate the forward assist because its ugly
god dude I've solved so many issues with my forward assist. So many times where I'd get a click and no boom because I didn't tap my damn forward assist, now I just make it a habit to smack that sucker on reload and it only adds like 0.15 seconds to my reload times so like who cares lmao that's meaningless, I don't need to speed reload so I have plenty to rack n tap
I use my rifles a lot, and I have used my forward assists all the time. Especially at night/quiet time if you need to chamber-check quietly.
Needing a forward assist is a workaround to inherently bad design.
Sending extra gas and residue right into the receiver and chamber is also a very bad design.
No firearm is impervious to every condition, and with all designs, there are trade-offs.