Moog Muse hot take after a week!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2024
- I'm loving the new Moog Muse!
Here is a mini review of my 5 favorite things, then 16 sounds I've saved over the last 10 days with it.
Let me know what you think or if you have any questions in the comments.
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Some incredible leftfield sounds in this demo. The Muse really is amazing. Might have to pick one up.
Hoping to share what I came up with, outside of the normal "here's yet another polysynth brass sound!"
Your lighting is getting better, and the framing. Nice work!
I like that you made scratchy, gritty patches. Muse can reach digital gnarly and harsh, as well as super mellow analog quality - like melted chocolate.
When mine arrive, I'll be in sound design heaven. The variety is awesome. 🎉
The Digital delay doesn't convince me. I have to try it myself. But that's okay. I'll run the Muse through Lunar Lander from Pulsar Modular anyways.
The 12-bit digital delay is really superb, a LOT cleaner than the BBD of the Matriarch. Very reminiscent of the Lexicon Prime Time or Korg SDD types. Listen to the end of the video at about 36:00 for its trails.
@@ManmademadmanIt's cool stuff for sure. I'll have to try it myself. 😊
Dig this never encountered you. I will have my Muse 2 weeks Sat. Its very cool. Your patches are sick and off the chain. Thanks for odd inspiration .
Hope it helps demonstrate "what else" it can do, besides 'nice and clean'
I like how you have shown us the extreme end of overload sounds. Industrial.
Thanks! Just trying to show the other types of sounds for this synth. I judge a synth this way (its tonal range)
Super flexible arp, what a synth!
Agreed! I've never seen such a logical layout-- 16 steps with gate on/off and instant gratification. I feel young again!
Muhmmm, love your sounds....😋
@@Lyynkstudio thanks! Hit me up if you want these and I'll figure out how to export them.
Great video.🖖We'd love to make some Noise/Avant Garde with it. Making a lot with the Labyrinth. Are you going to do a video on the sequencer? Curious about how different it is than the Labyrinth.
Probably not? Moog did a good brief tutorial. I've used it, but just as a basic sketchpad. The Arpeggiator is quicker for me, and more inspiring for now. All my sequencing will be in my DAW.
How does the bass and sub compare to your other moogs? Can it replace any of them?
@@MadelnMachines good question! Not as bassy as the minimoog, but a lot dirtier than the moog one-- so between there somehow?
Is it something that can be fixed with EQ? we are talking about sine waves in a spectrum - maybe it’s too bright - bass should be boosted and high frequencies tamed…
in the mix the bass has to be reduced anyway…
@@andybond5002 If your question is "does the Muse lack bass?" the answer is a firm no. Its sonically in the same spectrum. In my use cases (electronic music with vocals) I have always had to hipass any Moog to make room for the kick (or simply sidechain). So the Muse is fine. If theres too many sub-sonic frequencies (live or something) remember theres a hipass filter at the end of the chain to immediately remedy this. So far after two weeks, the Muse is getting used in tracks daily. Meanwhile, my Moog One sits across the room, jealous!
I‘ll never understand why people are concerned about bass on a *poly* synth. Bass is what *mono* synths are for! The factory bass patches are the first I will overwrite. Which brings me to my main criticism about the Muse: only 256 memory slots is ridiculous.
@@RayyMusik While I agree a Poly is voiced differently than a Mono-- therefore bass sounds are more focused and sound "better", there is no lacking of bass on the Muse. I'm still loving it almost two months in. Taking stock: Half my programmed sounds are pads, and half are bass thumps. So far I've got 4x banks of 16
You should create a patch bank and sell it 🤙
Thanks! Working on it! So far, very few people have bought my Moog One, Prophet-5/10 patches vs. my Kurzweil K2000 patches, but we'll see!
@@Manmademadman I’ll buy your prophet patches. Where can I purchase?
@@daguy7575 if this email gets obscured, you can find me... soundsubs at gmail
Nice 👍🏻
Great vid! So you think the vinyl overlay issue must be an issue with only a few products and not all?
@@2pandaemonium2 not sure. A few people reported it, but I haven't had that happen. Feels perfectly settled in to me, and mine has been warm for almost two weeks now.
@@Manmademadman ok cool. Btw do you know if the sequencer can do microtiming/nudging steps forward or back?
Interesting to hear what's your take on the Muse Vs Matriarch, since you have both. There has been some talk about the Muse and Matriarch share the same core sonic DNA - making the Muse a "polyphonuc matriarch". Is it true? With all the modulation possibilities on the Muse it seems like you can get the same mod options as in a semi modular synth - only with digital routing instead of patch cable. So to what extent can the Muse cover Matriarch sonic territory? Apart from the analog delay what would you be giving up if you gave up the Matriarch in favor of the Muse? If you had to choose one of the two what would it be and why? Thanks!!
They do share architecture and therefore occupy some of the same sonic space. Of course, paraphony isn't the same as polyphony, but that aside, I never used the Matriarch the same at all. I used it to rotate thru oscillators like a Mono/Poly... I mention this briefly in the intro to this video-- I find I play differently with a polyphonic synth and therefore I program sounds differently because of it. AND: I sold my Matriarch due to overlap. The Muse is here to stay.
@@Manmademadman Interesting. I have the Matriarch and trying to figure out to what extent they overlap and if i should sell it and get the Muse or is the Matriarch with its analog delay is unique enough to keep. By the way, do you find the mixer and the overdrive/overload behaviour similar on the Matriarch vs Muse?
@@bateimidrashnetwork Mixer: No, not really. While the Matriarch would overdrive, it wasn't like this. While they contain some of the same parts, they are uniquely different instruments.
I would keep the Matriarch for its gorgeous analog BBD delay. It's a beauty. Beside, the Matriarch can do a lot of modular like nasty sounds. I think both are accomplishing each other perfectly.
the screen have a problem ?????
Nah, its just the refresh rate of the overhead GoPro. Sorry about that!
35:24
5:06 - This is something that I found really disappointing as I went over the manual: No audio inputs. I really hope a firmware patch allows you to repurpose one of the CV inputs(or both for stereo) as an audio input and have appropriate destinations for handling it(for example replacing the noise in the mixer like on the Matriarch). Having the ability to utilize the filters and effect(s) for working with external audio seems like a pretty standard thing on Moogs, and synths in general. IIRC even the Micromoog that I had 20 years ago let you run external audio through the filter.
Don't get me wrong, I've already ordered a Muse(in pre-order because everywhere has sold out), and I love everything I've seen from this synth. But having this particular filter configuration and the diffusion delay be completely unavailable to any outside sound source seems like a tragedy.
Agreed. I hoped to be able to run wavetable oscillators through the Muse filters like on my Subsequent 37, but with real polyphony. Nope. :/
On the other hand, none if my analog poly synths has an external audio input; seems to be difficult somehow.
@@RayyMusik you would need 8 audio inputs to add external audio to 8 voices of a Polysynth and have it be polyphonic.
@@RayyMusik I'm not sure what you mean by real polyphony, but if it's what I think you mean it would be a much more complicated thing than what I'm talking about. I just mean running an external audio source through an un-enveloped filter and through the effect(s)(in this case the diffusion delay). Same as what your subsequent 37 can do. I know the Nina allows this but not sure about other polysynths. I've mostly dealt with monosynths.
Polysynths almost never have external audio in, unless it’s a sampler/sampling synth.
@@BullyMaguire4ever
'you would need 8 audio inputs to add external audio to 8 voices of a Polysynth and have it be polyphonic.'
Plus a midi connection to let the destination synth know when to fire voice x's envelopes and then guess which incoming audio channel corresponds to voice x. And even then, forget about if if the source synth has more voices and the user triggers more voices on the source than the destination synth has and can handle.
I'm beginning to understand why 'Polysynths almost never have external audio in, unless it’s a sampler/sampling synth.': Unrealistic expectations as to what the audio input could actually do :D
Anyway it would still be cool to be able to process external audio through the diffusion delay via voice 1, or in mono-mode-only.
Yap. 41:51 shit.
Your mouth moves like AI
Its hard to predict the future, but I try!
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You have some sort of nasal congestion. You should get it checked out
Thanks, Doc.