Alfa Tonale Veloce vs Ti driving REVIEW! Will the all-new compact SUV be the Alfa Romeo bestseller?
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- This is our in-depth review of the all-new Alfa Romeo Tonale (SUV). We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience and compare the Tonale Veloce vs the Tonale Ti.
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00:00 Dat emergency braking sound!
00:10 all-new compact Alfa Romeo SUV
00:20 Alfa Tonale Veloce in Misano Blue
00:47 Alfa Tonale Ti in Montreal Green
01:16 Wheels and length
02:10 Suspension choices
02:42 Rear Veloce vs Ti
03:17 Spectacular turning indicators!
04:00 Interior Veloce with Alcantara seats
06:43 Interior Ti with leatherette seats
07:28 Cockpit overview with user interface
08:51 Digital instruments
09:35 Infotainment system
11:01 Ambient lighting
11:16 Rear seats Ti vs Veloce
12:22 Toe nail?!
12:22 Trunk / boot
14:12 Engine choices with MHEV and PHEV
16:01 Driving Ti 1.5 petrol MHEV 160 hp
19:35 Normal base suspension and wheel size
21:45 Agile driving in the city
23:08 Acceleration test
23:53 Difference to Jeep Compass
24:34 Ambient lighting in the tunnel
25:57 Driving experience vs bigger Stelvio
26:47 Hybrid driving element
27:21 Alfa goes all-electric in 2027!
29:38 Driving the Veloce with adaptive suspension
#Alfa #AlfaRomeo #AlfaTonale
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00:00 Dat emergency braking sound!
00:10 all-new compact Alfa Romeo SUV
00:20 Alfa Tonale Veloce in Misano Blue
00:47 Alfa Tonale Ti in Montreal Green
01:16 Wheels and length
02:10 Suspension choices
02:42 Rear Veloce vs Ti
03:17 Spectacular turning indicators!
04:00 Interior Veloce with Alcantara seats
06:43 Interior Ti with leatherette seats
07:28 Cockpit overview with user interface
08:51 Digital instruments
09:35 Infotainment system
11:01 Ambient lighting
11:16 Rear seats Ti vs Veloce
12:22 Toe nail?!
12:22 Trunk / boot
14:12 Engine choices with MHEV and PHEV
16:01 Driving Ti 1.5 petrol MHEV 160 hp
19:35 Normal base suspension and wheel size
21:45 Agile driving in the city
23:08 Acceleration test
23:53 Difference to Jeep Compass
24:34 Ambient lighting in the tunnel
25:57 Driving experience vs bigger Stelvio
26:47 Hybrid driving element
27:21 Alfa goes all-electric in 2027!
29:38 Driving the Veloce with adaptive suspension
#Alfa #AlfaRomeo #AlfaTonale
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Italian Beauty - bravissimo❤️️... I like the PIP video👍'Italian Flag' = '(il)Tricolore', Thomas😉
It Looks like an American Doge Hornet:)..
Looks like a last generation BMW with a facelift...nice car.
@@reserva120 Actually, Dodge Hornet was designed from this
@@David-wl7qs think you missed the dry Irish humor there cowboy
The best looking SUV at the moment imo...Also that classic designed instrument cluster solution with the deepened cirles looks way better than those weird tablets which other manufactures use.
Just saw the Dodge version and it looks even better
@@manuelsmiley7125 yes, the cheap striping will undoubtedly appeal to some (Americans)…
@@bronco_fv yet and still, Alfa Romeo appeals to no one. They only sold 25,000 vehicles worldwide last year.
Agree. Amazing looks
@@manuelsmiley7125…it’s like with Ferrari, they sold only 5.000 cars - no one seems to like them - you dum…
That intro emergency braking alert really gave me a heart attack
I wonder if it can be disabled.
really? no
I'm usually a default "Thomas Blue" colour buyer, but that Montreal Green is gorgeous!
This is a really beautiful car inside and out, and is what the Stelvio should have been. Alfa deserves a runaway sales success and this could be just the car to accomplish it.
Superb review as always guys!
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How should this have been the Stelvio ? This car is anemic ! Takes over 8 seconds to get to 60 !!
Stelvio drives amazing...50 / 50 weight bias, GIORGIO platform (WAY BETTER THAN THE FIAT PUNTO PLATFORM from where this is based), and the Stelvio is primarily RWD bias whereas I'm sure this is primarily FWD bias. I do prefer the front facia of the Tonale as well as the tail lights but that's it. Stelvio sport seats are way nicer as well.
@@jamesterakazis6624 better looking inside and out, better everyday powertrains, better technology. The only reason now to buy a Stelvio is the Quadrifglio or if you need more space.
@@sbomorse Better looking inside ? Hardly....Ti Sport seats I have in my 2020 Stelvio Ti Sport are the same seats as my 2017 Giulia Quad minus the Alcantara. Much nicer seats than are in this Tonale....Also, black on black on black on black...UGH!!! My pearl white Stelvio with the red and black interior is way nicer looking than this cave. Red sport seats, red lower dash, red inserts in the doors and red center console make my Stelvio's interior way more vibrant than this drab black mish mosh. Center stack info is better in the Tonale but I much prefer the integrated look of the Stelvio's nav screen to this iPad thrown on top of the dash ala every German car ever....afterthought much ? Looks are subjective but my Pearl white Stelvio with the black exterior accents and much nicer 19 inch 5 hole rims is a superior looking car in my opinion. Unfortunately when the Dodge Hornet hits the streets for 11 K less, the Tonale is going to be cheapened by its corporate sibling...something the Stelvio doesn't have to worry about.
HEY SAMMY BOY ....CRICKETS !!!
Hi Thomas, great review of this really cool Alfa new SUV! There is a lot to like here. I think the 2.0 with 280 bhp would have been better engine, but the car is cool. I hope it sells well for Alfa.
Cheers m8!
In this segment the Tonale is undoubtly the best looking car. Cupra Formentor a few steps behind but that poor 90’s lumbar tattoo of a tribal logo just bring the whole thing down the drain.
Stelvio is only slightly bigger (6 cm wider, 15 cm longer) compared to Tonale and squeezes in 25 dm3 extra in the boot. The fact that Tonales hybrid engine will be Alfas best economic vs performance powerhouse, can carry three adults in the back (according to Thomas), taxes and pricetag in favor of this car - all my bets are on Tonale. In fact, im seriously concidering this as my future hybrid alternative in the next couple of years. Hopefully reliability and dealerships have evolved. Well done Alfa!
My father owned three Alfasuds and finally the 33 Ti and Guilietta. He said that Alfa gave him everything the other cars didn’t and that was affordable fun driving everyday. He moved on to Renault Clio in retirement.
The best and most detailed reviews. They are fun yet informative. Love your accent!
keep enjoying =) and please recommend us!
Thomas such a fantastic car reviewer could listen to you all day plus glad you picked up on the indicator noise. Love the Tonale unfortunately that indicator could be a bit more refined ❤
thanks so much! Please recommend our channel :-)
awesome car! but are "soft materials" that important on the dashboard? Usually I don't spend my time massaging it..
When u pay 35 grand plus .. it better be important
I understand, but I prefer spending for a more refined suspension or engine or driving experience. That said, the perceived quality is also important... But you can't say a car is a no go only for that (German manufacturers have well understood that...) IMHO, obviously
@@StefanoDalPont agreed!
none of the compertitors has better materials that's for sure.
Love your reviews. Very helpful. Love that green color
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This certainly can be a bestseller ever for Alfa Romeo
Lovely review! 👏🏼
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Nice car and good review. Unfortunately they didn’t integrate the main screen in the dash like the other models.
Cheers!
Amazing review, and a beautiful italian design.
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Fantastic Review!!!
thanks! Please recommend :)
Watched 30 minutes review in normal speed! That means I really loved the car. Colors are stunning, I don't know which one is better.
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It's a hard choice isn't it.
So when do we get the QV version?
Incredibile shape!
So much love at first side
What about angle of inclination of rear seats,looks like they are pretty vertical?
I remember someone talking about a "Toenail" some time ago... Looks rather nice. 👍🏻
Very good review 👍👍👍
Thanks keep tuning in !!
Perfect colour match with Thomas´s blue jacket 😅
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The autonomous brake alert sound is the remixed version of what you hear when you get caught in Metal Gear Solid.
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Thomas - another exceptional review which I thoroughly enjoyed. Do you know if there are plans to make this available to us in Canada? There is no substitute for the incomparable style that the Italian designers bring to the automotive world. Best wishes...
Thanks 🙏 it does come to the US, so i guess also canada
In Canada you should also get the Dodge Hornet, which is going to be a clone of the Tonale. The only difference sill be the front grill.
@@roby72s I hope Stellantis is not so stupid as to make the Alfa and Dodge too similar to each other. This would kill the Tonale in the US.
@@rlsedition I am afraid, but this is exactly what is happening. There was a picture taken from the factory of a red Dodge Hornet, leaked few months ago. The picture shows the front side the driver side, so you cannot see the front, but apparently is exactly the same as the Tonale except for the front grille which obviously will be different. There was also a picture of the interior which a clone except for the dodge logo. If Stellantis produces a Dodge which is basically a clone of an Alfa, it means only one thing and that is, Stellantis has got no idea of what to do with Alfa Romeo.
@@roby72s I once worked for an OEM automaker, so I know the first brand of a new vehicle architecture is often used for the follow-ons, like the Hornet, by adding or subtracting a few parts, as all the new body pieces were not yet available when the Hornet proto cars were built . Hopefully this is what's going on with the Hornet protos we've seen.
Thomas the delay holding the trunk close button must be a new US regulation because my wife’s Ford Explorer hatch closes with a quick push of the button.
It seems!
Beautiful outside and absolutely love the simple interior with real buttons and very little piano black, I'll take your word Thomas when you say quality feels low (tough to convey on camera other then hard door and wobbly armrest), but layout wise it is almost perfect. Infotainment seems good and responsive, but the camera resolution looks poor, at least on video. Where is the fake exhaust police though?
256hp 2.0T AWD with the mild hybrid would be 🤤 Quadrifoglio? 😃
thanks for the feedback m8 !
9:10 Same digital speedometer font as pre-facelift Fiat Tipo analog speedometer font.
Could you please do a comparison with Q3and XC40?
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Been waiting a absolute several years. I want the hybrid, can't wait for the drop in the US. Might get the Dodge if it releases early, it launches on the month of my bday! Why not??
I really love this car and the review you did. It's indepth and very good! My favorite thing was the flashers turning on when you brake very hard. Many times I've been on the highway or in the city, had to slam on my brakes and just prayed the person behind me would be paying attention and notice how hard I'm braking. With that? No more, you'll catch someone's attention fast with a flasher brake. Especially if it's some sudden stop you can't make them expect.
Appreciated! Please recommend our channel 🤗
Nice review as usual.. Your eco ranting is a bit over the edge considering you are showcasing frequently ICE cars with humongous power and emissions ;).
Nice review! How does it compare to the Cupra Formentor?
Thanks! Check it out here:
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21:9 screen with horizontal bar on top... What were they thinking??? Good luck seeing anything on the maps
According to specification the Dashboard of “veloce” should be in Alcantara too, but in the video seems to be in leather. Could you help me to understand why?
Maybe preproduction vehicle reason
Can you test the US-version with the 2.0l, 256hp engine please.
I'd really love to see that "Tonale" design language applied to Giulia, especially that front end with some minor redesign would perfectly fit a supersport sedan
No, it wouldn't. Giulia is objectively the best designed sedan car of all time. This is nowhere near as good and quite ugly from some angles. There's nothing that can be done to the Giulia to improve it, it's already perfect in all proportions.
There is a good reason for the loud indicators. Have you ever driven behind a vehicle with the turn signal on because the driver does not hear it. With the loud indicator it will annoy you and remember to turn it off.
They are not loud
I thought the Blind Spot/Cross-Traffic alarm in my Giulia was annoying but the Tonale’s on something else bruh - that sounds hilarious 😂😂😂
Did not realise that was BS monitor, thought it was a side sensor as got too close to other car in middle lane.
Hi Thomas great review 😎loving that blue colour like yourself , that front end is a masterpiece , overall a good smaller crossover was the mpg good for the segment ?
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We could not do a reliable test of the fuel economy yet
on those mountain passes the fuel consumption i got was 8.2 liters/ 100km
@@autogefuehl Thank you :)
@@vladdutz20 Thank you :)
Love the way you say "Steering wheel" 😀
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hello!i m interested in buying the diesel tonale..what do you think about it?i dont choose the mild hybrid version because in test drive i made,i found it a bit slow in response...i want your opinion plz!
havent driven it sorry
Not sure if it's the colour (I vastly prefer the green), but the TI looks way better and more interesting to me.
The ‘Montreal’ green is gorgeous!
The outside looks great (for an SUV) but I'm not a fan of the interior. The Giulia and Stelvio are much more elegant with their infotainment systems integrated in the dashboard. Having said that, the way it drives is still very much Alfa. I tried one before buying Giulia. Definitely a nice option to have for those that want an SUV but find the Stelvio too steep (mountain pun intended).
Thomas it is a shame you could not find some emptier twisty driving roads as we learn so much seeing you really drive.
Thomas do you need a new sidekick/cameraman :D:))? As usual awesome review!
Thanks 😊
Did you try both the 130 and the 160 versions? if so any noticeable difference?
Not really big diff
Thomas, I am trying to pick between 2 cars and want to know your opinion. Which one would you pick out of Tonale and Mazda CX-60, if both of them are top trim PHEVs. Thanks!
Thanks 🙏
Neither.
@@autogefuehl Thomas I was thinking of theses two cars as well. Possibly leaning to veloce tonale. If no then what would you go for.
Beautiful car, thanks for this review. Hopefully Alfa will now sales more cars in Europe than Lancia did. 😉
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I'm curious if Alfa Romeo will sell more cars, when Lancia will launch the tree planned models between 2024 and 2028. I'm a bit worried about internal competition, as the planned Lancia models will also be premium.
Absolutely stunning car, making a mid size suv was a good move on alfa romeos part i think
Bravo, Thomas!
Benvenuto in Italia 🍷
Grazie!!
I think Alfa should change that FCW sound. It’s so funny that some people could actually trigger it on purpose 😂
Thanks Thomas
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what is the price in EU ?
The sound it makes when alerting you to stop haha. Worth buying the car just for that. The Tonale looks stellar
I thought the sound was to warn other drivers initially when i saw the clip originally but watching again it makes sense now...self inflicted :) But may put people off ? Never seen any other manufacturer implement this.
she's better then i think before. thank you!
What a design!!
Simply gorgeous............Alfa reborn........
Does it share the platform with the Compass? Don't think so, it's on a brand new platform, in fact the engineer who developed it as the leader of the project is the same guy that did the chassis for the Giulia QV GTA models, Domenico Baniasco.
This is definitely jeep compass platform, one of the lead engineers also confirmed that to me personally
Great review and beautiful compact SUV. Maybe one of the most beautiful SUVs in its class, just like the RR Evoque and BMW X2. Much nicer than: Tiguan, Q3, GLA and XC40. Will it be a success? Time will tell🍀🇮🇹🙏🏻
Does any version have ventilated seats?!
Yes but with the Alcantara u dont need that
Excellent review, pity in the UK the only interior colour is black and you can only have heated seats with leather, bought my last car with the help of your review 😄
Thanks 🙏
Grrrr stupid uk market offers by them!
Okay, I want a Veloce in Montreal Green with dark accents. And can I have the sporty seats without red? Thanks!
Oh and I would like to lease the car in germany please! xD
Do you maybe know what price will it start? 🤔
In Italy 39.900
Looks like the Fiat 500e guys have worked on this, looks very similar on the inside.
I think that isn't a bad thing. The 500e is a beautiful car, especially the high end la prima trim level.
maybe buy new glasses?
I hope Squadra tuning will find some extra BHP......
Great review Thomas, here is my question, do I got for the Alpha (my heart says yes) or the equivalent Mazda?? The Mazda looks great too
Better go for CX 60 that has proper rear wheel drive layout - this isn't even an alpha ..it's fwd based
@@cyrilmatthew2995 Yeah I think you're right, plus I'd say the Mazda is better built. Thanks for your reply Cyril, much appreciated.
Thanks 🙏 Seen both reviews?
@@autogefuehl I did but the heart will always say Alpha and I know Mr H is shouting at the screen saying there is no decision to make!!!
@@cyrilmatthew2995 the equivalent Mazda is the CX-30, which doesn't even have independent suspension in the rear 😬 I'm not a fan of it, it looks like a blown-up Mazda 3 and it's got some pretty weird engines
What a wonderful car!
Great Car in Thomas Blue :)
24:01 that sound should be the autovelox (radar) alert in fact it sounds again at min 25:10, I know because I am living near by. cheers
Oh!
Test drove the 130 version. Its sluggish. Will wait for a proper motor. The plastic speakers also upset me a bit. Instrument panel is beautiful.
Good review to a very good looking car. Italian roads are a little more chaotic than I realised…
Thanks 🙏
Hey Thomas, good news, a got a job offer in Germany, Munich. Can't wait to start working and experience German life.
Congrats 🎉
@@autogefuehl Thank you.
Woaaa some narrow roads there ...... walking, scooting and cycling would be scary
Is the engine longitudinally mounted ?
I guess that's transversal
@@stefanobalistreri8349 yeah ...god
.. I hate it
@@cyrilmatthew2995 why, it is better when it is transversely mounted
@@BrateTebra123 Good question - Mounting the engine longitudinally enables the engineers to push the engine towards the centre and behind the front axle that that leads to almost equal weight distribution to front and back $ right and left.
This makes for a proper front mid engine engine rear wheel driven layout that lead to better acceleration, less torque steer, better cornering performance and even this layout can handle more powerful engines as well.
AWD can be integrated as well to red architecture as well ...
Compared to a transversely mounted layout where more then 65 % weight is up front and axels powering the front wheels are of different lengths .. there's so much parts that are stuffed in to front bonnet and front wheels have to do the both turning and pulling duty that leads to east wear and tear of parts ....
Rear wheel drive vehicles may not be as space efficient as fwd as there's axle that goes to rear that takes up space butany modern fwd vehicles too have AWD system that eats in to the space so that argument is no longer valid....
Drive a Lexus is 300 and es 300 or 350 ... You will know what difference rwd can make or just have look on the previous generation fwd based ford explorer and the new red based version...
@@cyrilmatthew2995 I know that, but this is a compact SUV, not a sports car. Cabin space is much more important in this segment then 10% better handling...
That emergency braking sound reminds me of the Mexican Hat Dance (stereotypical Mexican song).
Bedankt
Dank u wel!
Lol for that truck gear leaver 😄 🤣
The Stelvio is still my favorite SUV in terms of looks, but the Tonale is a close second
It's a shame they don't offer a performance version internal combustion engine. Who buys a hybrid or all electric alfa?
#capacityBS cracks me every time lol
Small displacement engines are used to lower the entry price of vehicles.
No final thoughts Thomas??
TH-cam algorithm doesn’t like that :/
🐫: “toe-nail?!? Phew…”
So beautifull, good luck Alfa Romeo 🍀🍀
First impression, Mazda CX-3
Sweet Jesus I'm ordering the green one once it's available in my country
Thomas! I did a double take when you said 1 metre 89… I’m so used to you saying 1 metre 86! Did you grow? 😂
Ahahah yes because my passport seems wrong! Measured new and its more!
ah too bad we didn't meet, i was there on Monday and Tuesday this week on behalf of the Romanian company that sells the alfa Romeo to film it on my TH-cam channel :)
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Brands very often call electrics their hybrid cars so I think they will continue selling hybrids after 2027.
Thomas you were 6ft1 right? I remember cause you keep saying that on every video, how come now your 6ft2?
Puko ga kompleks
Passport was wrong. I checked and obviously i m a little taller
you shrink during the day
Will sell like a hot cake!
Naah
With that engine??? I don't think so
So difficult to choose a color !!!!! We will order it this week
What color did you choose ?
@@LeonSittard black )
@@Feoclub2010 Nice, which version?
@@LeonSittard veloce
I am an Alfa fan but I am a bit disappointed. Alfa should have used automatic gearbox from Stelvio instead of this seven speed TCT also 2L engine from Stelvio would be nice to see in the front. I am still waiting for the new Giulietta if It ever comes?
I would love any car if I'm driving in Lake Como.
It looks very well designed!!
It's wrong. Speciale is not a Veloce trim. Its the launch edition,right. But in the end you have differences between Veloce and Speciale...
Very stylish. I think I would only lease an Alfa.
Lago di Como ,my town 🥰
Beautiful!
stelvio looks better
Great review, as always! Looks are subjective, and this seems to be getting a lot of love from commenters. Personally, although I love the front, from the side it reminds me of a 7 year-old Qashqai, and the interior is a bit too Fisher-Price for me. But each to their own, my style is more Volvo-minimalist, so obviously I'm not the target market for this. Nevertheless it's great that there are still some cars with a "personality" being made.
Thanks m8!