Just found this again 8yr on. Always interesting - pearsalls orange goes a vibrant brown when wet (or waxed) - the brown has more life in it than standard brown thread. Always wondered why one would wax the thread for a wet fly. Stops the silk deteriorating but makes it harder to sink the fly unless fished in rapid.
Hi Brian Brown, I remember this well as I tyed the Partridge and Orange for this competition which was in 1985 if I remember right and I won with my tying to get through to the advanced tyers, so this fly also means a lot to me as well as being a wonderful fishing fly.. All the very best Davie
Thanks Davie! Simple, traditional and deadly pattern. For panfish I add a gold bead for a bit of flash and some weight as the fish are holding in 12-14 feet of water at this time of year. Green and black bodied versions (silver bead) also work well. ATB! Hank
What a wonderful fly, Davie. I tie it this way mostly, but have some made with a small ball of a thorax... usually red fox squirrel or beaver... that holds the hackle out a little. I use them in the mountain streams where the water is quick and jumps around a lot. Mike
Hi Mike, I have to agree with you that winding these hackles through a tiny bit of dubbing helps hold the hackle fibres up and doesn't stop them working as i really like doing this myself. The Partridge & Orange though is a great pattern as you may know and many wouldn't like you changing it too much...I'm glad you enjoyed the video and again thank you for your kind words... All the very best Davie
Thanks Davie, I've told you before I hooked & lost my best brown from my favorite stream after multiple reel screaming runs on that fly in size 12. I even have a witness, my wife, who tried to net it for me. Alas, the final surge at the net did us in. No regrets though. Great fly, great tip on no worries about overdressing the hackle. Thanks again Davie for bringing back that memory.
good pattern heading to New Hampshire in a couple weeks and this fly is supposed to work great up there as well as an orange grouse pattern I will be tieing several of these for my trip thanks again for sharing
@@jacobandrew662 well its didnt catch any fish but its seems to fish nice but I didn't catch anything on anything g I tried so sure its not the fly pattern
@@jacobandrew662 I saw a few peoplem catching fish its better in the fall suppsedly most of the fish are stocked and they stalk summer and fall I was there in the spring fishing for left overs
hi davie great to see a firm favourite of mine and I'm sure millions of others ,amazing how this simple wee fly will catch trout all over the world. oh don't know if you'v noticed in your materials list thread came up as pearls instead of pearsalls.
Thanks George for noticing the spelling mistake, I use a iMac and it changed is to pearl and it doesn't recognised the word pearsalls... All the very best Davie
The silk color looks more like a rusty brown in uni 8/0, would it work and look the part anyway Davie? Or would i be better using a brighter modern floss and reducing the fibre strands? Many thanks Davie♥️
Hi Davie, Thanks for another great pattern. Two questions: first, how important is the silk vs regular tying thread? I don't have silk yet. Second, how do you fish this. Under a strike indicator, retrieve, or even trolled? Thanks! Eric
Hi Eric, I have used regular thread to tye the Partridge & Orange and it does work so just use what you have and I'm sure you will catch fish on it..I have attached a link to a video of Oliver Edwards fishing wet flies and this is the way I would recommend anyone to fish these flies and Oliver is a master at it.. th-cam.com/video/Ge7Cl6ltAAs/w-d-xo.html All the very best Davie
Hey Davie I was wondering what kind of Bobbin you prefer for Pearsalls? The regular bobbins seem to big for the spools. I heard the matterelli bobbin is the best for Pearsalls but they are impossible to find. Thanks for sharing your knowledge of these great traditional flies!
Thompson's Ceramic Bobbins D&E. Each stainless steel bobbin tube has a machine fitted ceramic insert to provide the smoothest passage possible AT BOTH ENDS OF THE TUBE. Because of the slick surface inherant of ceramic, friction is eliminated at both ends, preventing snagging or thread breaks. Available in standard and mini sizes. Try them both! Hiwww.dhthompson.com/tools2.php
Hi Randy, I have attached a link to the bobbin holder I use to hold the Pearsalls Silk though I'm not sure if you can still buy it but I could be wrong..If you can't find one then just transfer the silk on to a bigger spool as I have done this myself... All the very best Davie..
hi davie, yet another excellent wee fly and so simple that even a beginner fly dresser like me can tie with good results. also featured in bert sharps book "lets fish the clyde", speaking of books i picked up a copy of "scottish trout flies" by WH lawrie and i was wondering if you were familiar with this book and what your thoughts were on it. keep up the fantastic video's davie. best regards, Brian
Hi Brian, I've never read this book but it certainly looks very interesting and one I would like to have a read through..I've owned Lets fish the Clyde for many years and one that I would never part with out of all the books I have and it's a signed by him..WH Laurie did write a few books on flies and fishing so he must have knew a lot and you can buy them for quite cheap..I'm glad you enjoy the videos and thanks for the kind words... All the very best Davie
Hi Davie, Great vid, for some reason I am really drawn to this simple classic pattern and will tie some for the coming season, along with some of the other traditional wets. I'm just wondering how important is it to store wet flies correctly? I received a nice fly box as a gift and the flies are secured in place using metal clips, meaning that they lay flat on their sides. Would this ruin the soft hackle of flies such as the partridge and orange and make them too flat? If so, what sort of flies would you recommend storing in a box that uses clips to secure? Thanks a lot and keep up the videos! More videos of you out fishing this year would be great to see too!
Hi Stephen, The flies would be ok once you start fishing them but if you feel your flies are being damaged then use a box like the one I have attached a link to as these allow the flies to sit up as you will see on the website... All the very best Davie... tackyflyfishing.com
Davie, I believe you use the word 'varnish' in the generic sense. Or, is there a specific 'varnish' you use or recommend? Does it vary among different flies or styles? Thank You
Hi Brian, I use Veniards clear varnish on all my flies so I have attached a link to it for you to see, it is also worth buying the thinners for it that they sell as you will have to thin it down over time which makes it last a long time.. All the very best Davie www.lakelandflytying.com/tools-accessories/varnish-glues-dyes/veniards-high-quality-varnish__2314?currency=GBP&chosenAttribute=01244040101&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjPaCBhDkARIsAISZN7Q5NIaUyaNFbY-asNaychHoLcQHr3gUM_-RiOIF9U9Y4V7k716ZJbsaAh63EALw_wcB www.fishersdirect.com/veniard-unitit-thinners-18742-p.asp
What's the stuff on your hand? Is that the waxy stuff that starts with the letter v? Im in the states on Long Island. I've only seen that on youtube. I know it's not dubbing wax.
Hi Fall Front 21, I have a video on the wax that I use as well as how I prepare it so I have attached a link to it for you to see.. All the very best Davie th-cam.com/video/IN4N92G14Xg/w-d-xo.html
I used Pearsalls Gossamer Silk in Orange to tie it. Your video and some others mention the use of wax on the thread. What is the reason for that? I noticed that when I do, the thread changes the color of the thread ( makes it darker ). Thanks.
Hi schmookie, I have a few spools of the Yli Silk thread which I really like and a great sub for Pearsalls silk..If you want to keep the silk from changing colour you need to use a clean place of wax and the one I use is Veniards Prepared Fly Tyers Wax and waxing the thread helps strengthen and give you more grip with less turns, it will also darken your thread as some patterns want this..I have attached a link to the Yli Silk for you to see.. All the very best Davie www.broadlypatchwork.co.uk/yli-silk-thread
@@DavieMcPhail Hello Davie. Thanks for your response and the link. I've looked at the silk offerings from the link you provided. They have a huge variety. Would you mind listing your favorites. For example, what's a good match for the orange used in Partridge & Orange Soft Hackle? Thanks again for the advice.
Very nice. Like all of your flyes. I really enjoy your videos. One question, what is the thing on your finger? Some kind of glue or wax i think, but, which is the right name? Thank you.
Hi Hugo lovenitti, It is wax as you said, I use a Prepared Fly Tyers wax which comes from a wholesale company called Veniards..What I do is to break off a small piece and then work it between my fingers until it's soft and tacky then I stick it to the side of my finger which helps keep it soft and ready to be used when needed as you saw in the video...I'm glad you like the flies I tye.... All the very best Davie
Hi Nicholai Andersen, At one time we used to have good runs of sea trout but now they are very rare, I did catch many small sea trout up to a 1lb on small wets and I'm sure the Partridge and Orange would have worked... All the very best Davie..
Davie McPhail okay, we have alot her betwin 1 and 10 kg so i looking for flies to seatrout 😊... Btw i saw your video about dyeing feathers and that... Can that color also be used on synthetic fibers? 😊
Nice Davy! Can you please tell me where I can purchase a Nice Brown Partridge skin with feathers like the one you used in this video. By the way I really like the Bronze Mallard feathers you referred me too.😊 Thankyou Very Much, You Take Care.🌴🦐🎣🐠 Aloha!
Hi Kent W, I have attached a link to the company that I bought my skin from and I have always been happy with the quality..Thank you for the kind comments... All the very best Davie.. www.cookshill-flytying.co.uk/gsr.htm
@@DavieMcPhail Thanks for getting back to me Davie. I checked their web site but I didn't see any pictures so I went to Steve's Facebook. Nice pictures but still hard to tell what I'm shopping for. It says that I have to get in touch with them, so I may contact them. You Take Care Davie. 🌴🦐🎣🐠 Aloha!
I noticed a lot of the comments are asking about materials and what not, so here is a link from a reputable source that I use very frequently. The link goes straight to the partridge as that was the comment that got me thinking, but they have hoards of stuff for fly tying, lead molds, spinners, and building rods. May be of interest to you and your subscribers. www.barlowstackle.com/Hungarian-Partridge-Skins-P1139.aspx
Hi Mike, It is important to wax silk thread as it will strengthen and protect it. it will also add colour and also hold the hackle far better with less turns which you need to do as these threads are not as thin as the modern ones... All the very best Davie
Hey Davie, I have found a stash of Pearsall's Stout. I got it at a good price in my estimation. Large spools, I don't have Pearsall's gossamer is the stout thicker? I got it because it is my intention to learn to tie classic Atlantic Salmon flies. I guess I will have to teach myself and keep getting great teaching and advise from watching your video's and others too of course. Blessings. Sean
Hi Sean, Stout floss is the heaviest of the Pearsall flosses then it's the Marabou floss which can easily be split to tye large or small flies...Pearsall's Gossamer is the tying thread used mostly in trout flies which I used in this video, they also do a Maples which is heavier and used mostly on larger flies.. All the very best Davie
Thanks Peter for the information. I am looking up the link. I can use all the help I can get. I took a beginners fly tying class and the rest I learned from watching Davie and other tiers. Al the best, Sean
Sorry to bother you Davie could you tell me what kind of partridge you used in this video? I've looked around and to the beginner its mind boggling the sheer amount of different partridges avalaible, Chinese, Hungarian, cock and hen etc. Would you be able to recommend a suitable partridge for this fly?
Hi Sylinder Goatrider, I bought the skins from the Glasgow Angling Centre but they didn't have any in stock so I have attached a link to some I did find though I have never used the company so it would be best to look around...If you do need advice please ask as you are not bothering me.. All the very best Davie www.rodgersfishingtackle.com/product/chinese-partridge-skin/
You probably already got your partridge, but here is a link to a store I buy from very frequently. www.barlowstackle.com/Hungarian-Partridge-Skins-P1139.aspx
Just found this again 8yr on.
Always interesting - pearsalls orange goes a vibrant brown when wet (or waxed) - the brown has more life in it than standard brown thread.
Always wondered why one would wax the thread for a wet fly. Stops the silk deteriorating but makes it harder to sink the fly unless fished in rapid.
A beautiful fly Davie. Rounding out the year, so it's Merry Christmas and many blessings on you and yours. Thanks.
Merry Christmas to you and your family as well Thomas and all the very best for 2022..
ATB Davie..
I've always said that this is the best river trout fly ever invented, & I've been told it's one of the oldest. Great stuff as always Davie. 👍🏻
I like a red and white visible, hare's ear and wooly bugger. The Adams would be my top pick.
I love these flies Davie! Easy to tie and effective! Orange,green and one with peacock herl are 3 killer patterns!
Always relaxing to watch a master tie flies.
Thanks Davie - this fly is a deadly fly for landlocked salmon and native brook trout in Northern Maine - great tie - thanks again
Nice Davie. I like how you wound the hackle and tried it off. Thanx 4 sharing.
Aloha🌴🎄🎣
Superb tie Davie
a lovely the simple patterns they go a long way with the trout & grayling 😀
Lovely fly Davie. Very well explained. Thank you for sharing.
A blast from the past great work Davie ,remember tying this pattern for the B an H tying competition years ago but they never turned out like yours .
Hi Brian Brown,
I remember this well as I tyed the Partridge and Orange for this competition which was in 1985 if I remember right and I won with my tying to get through to the advanced tyers, so this fly also means a lot to me as well as being a wonderful fishing fly..
All the very best Davie
Thanks Davie! Simple, traditional and deadly pattern. For panfish I add a gold bead for a bit of flash and some weight as the fish are holding in 12-14 feet of water at this time of year. Green and black bodied versions (silver bead) also work well. ATB! Hank
Thanks very much Davie. I really enjoy your videos and the bouzouki music is great as well!
I tied same but with green body. Graylings love it!
What a wonderful fly, Davie. I tie it this way mostly, but have some made with a small ball of a thorax... usually red fox squirrel or beaver... that holds the hackle out a little. I use them in the mountain streams where the water is quick and jumps around a lot.
Mike
Hi Mike,
I have to agree with you that winding these hackles through a tiny bit of dubbing helps hold the hackle fibres up and doesn't stop them working as i really like doing this myself. The Partridge & Orange though is a great pattern as you may know and many wouldn't like you changing it too much...I'm glad you enjoyed the video and again thank you for your kind words...
All the very best Davie
Oh, I would NEVER tie a Partridge and Orange that way, Davie... =]
Mike
thanks a million davie for showing how to tie this, it really is a great fly. love your videos, you make it all seem so easy. -tight lines
Thanks Davie, I've told you before I hooked & lost my best brown from my favorite stream after multiple reel screaming runs on that fly in size 12. I even have a witness, my wife, who tried to net it for me. Alas, the final surge at the net did us in. No regrets though. Great fly, great tip on no worries about overdressing the hackle. Thanks again Davie for bringing back that memory.
good pattern heading to New Hampshire in a couple weeks and this fly is supposed to work great up there as well as an orange grouse pattern I will be tieing several of these for my trip thanks again for sharing
How'd it work in NH?
@@jacobandrew662 well its didnt catch any fish but its seems to fish nice but I didn't catch anything on anything g I tried so sure its not the fly pattern
richarddvll ah gotcha. So it goes from time to time. I’m fishing MA area and curious how it’s do down here.
@@jacobandrew662 I saw a few peoplem catching fish its better in the fall suppsedly most of the fish are stocked and they stalk summer and fall I was there in the spring fishing for left overs
hi davie great to see a firm favourite of mine and I'm sure millions of others ,amazing how this simple wee fly will catch trout all over the world. oh don't know if you'v noticed in your materials list thread came up as pearls instead of pearsalls.
Thanks George for noticing the spelling mistake, I use a iMac and it changed is to pearl and it doesn't recognised the word pearsalls...
All the very best Davie
Nice pattern, I'll give it a try this summer here in western Canada. Thanks for the great instructions! :)
How did you get on with it?
So great. Really impressionnant your work 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉....
Simple, lovely & very effective.
A good old Northern pattern, Cheers
Yes, indeed. 👍👍
The silk color looks more like a rusty brown in uni 8/0, would it work and look the part anyway Davie? Or would i be better using a brighter modern floss and reducing the fibre strands? Many thanks Davie♥️
Simple but seems effective!
My favourite fly 😊👍🏻
Hi Davie,
Thanks for another great pattern. Two questions: first, how important is the silk vs regular tying thread? I don't have silk yet.
Second, how do you fish this. Under a strike indicator, retrieve, or even trolled? Thanks!
Eric
Hi Eric,
I have used regular thread to tye the Partridge & Orange and it does work so just use what you have and I'm sure you will catch fish on it..I have attached a link to a video of Oliver Edwards fishing wet flies and this is the way I would recommend anyone to fish these flies and Oliver is a master at it..
th-cam.com/video/Ge7Cl6ltAAs/w-d-xo.html
All the very best Davie
+Davie McPhail
Thanks! That's helpful
Davie McPhail is the Bob Ross of fly tying. Davie, when are you going to do a book?
Hey Davie I was wondering what kind of Bobbin you prefer for Pearsalls? The regular bobbins seem to big for the spools. I heard the matterelli bobbin is the best for Pearsalls but they are impossible to find. Thanks for sharing your knowledge of these great traditional flies!
Thompson's Ceramic Bobbins
D&E. Each stainless steel bobbin tube has a machine fitted ceramic insert to provide the smoothest passage possible AT BOTH ENDS OF THE TUBE. Because of the slick surface inherant of ceramic, friction is eliminated at both ends, preventing snagging or thread breaks. Available in standard and mini sizes. Try them both!
Hiwww.dhthompson.com/tools2.php
Hi Randy,
I have attached a link to the bobbin holder I use to hold the Pearsalls Silk though I'm not sure if you can still buy it but I could be wrong..If you can't find one then just transfer the silk on to a bigger spool as I have done this myself...
All the very best Davie..
hi davie, yet another excellent wee fly and so simple that even a beginner fly dresser like me can tie with good results. also featured in bert sharps book "lets fish the clyde", speaking of books i picked up a copy of "scottish trout flies" by WH lawrie and i was wondering if you were familiar with this book and what your thoughts were on it. keep up the fantastic video's davie. best regards, Brian
Hi Brian,
I've never read this book but it certainly looks very interesting and one I would like to have a read through..I've owned Lets fish the Clyde for many years and one that I would never part with out of all the books I have and it's a signed by him..WH Laurie did write a few books on flies and fishing so he must have knew a lot and you can buy them for quite cheap..I'm glad you enjoy the videos and thanks for the kind words...
All the very best Davie
Hi Davie,
Great vid, for some reason I am really drawn to this simple classic pattern and will tie some for the coming season, along with some of the other traditional wets.
I'm just wondering how important is it to store wet flies correctly? I received a nice fly box as a gift and the flies are secured in place using metal clips, meaning that they lay flat on their sides. Would this ruin the soft hackle of flies such as the partridge and orange and make them too flat? If so, what sort of flies would you recommend storing in a box that uses clips to secure?
Thanks a lot and keep up the videos! More videos of you out fishing this year would be great to see too!
Hi Stephen,
The flies would be ok once you start fishing them but if you feel your flies are being damaged then use a box like the one I have attached a link to as these allow the flies to sit up as you will see on the website...
All the very best Davie...
tackyflyfishing.com
Davie, I believe you use the word 'varnish' in the generic sense. Or, is there a specific 'varnish' you use or recommend? Does it vary among different flies or styles? Thank You
Hi Brian,
I use Veniards clear varnish on all my flies so I have attached a link to it for you to see, it is also worth buying the thinners for it that they sell as you will have to thin it down over time which makes it last a long time..
All the very best Davie
www.lakelandflytying.com/tools-accessories/varnish-glues-dyes/veniards-high-quality-varnish__2314?currency=GBP&chosenAttribute=01244040101&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjPaCBhDkARIsAISZN7Q5NIaUyaNFbY-asNaychHoLcQHr3gUM_-RiOIF9U9Y4V7k716ZJbsaAh63EALw_wcB
www.fishersdirect.com/veniard-unitit-thinners-18742-p.asp
well tied thanks
What's the stuff on your hand? Is that the waxy stuff that starts with the letter v? Im in the states on Long Island. I've only seen that on youtube. I know it's not dubbing wax.
Hi Fall Front 21,
I have a video on the wax that I use as well as how I prepare it so I have attached a link to it for you to see..
All the very best Davie
th-cam.com/video/IN4N92G14Xg/w-d-xo.html
I used Pearsalls Gossamer Silk in Orange to tie it. Your video and some others mention the use of wax on the thread. What is the reason for that? I noticed that when I do, the thread changes the color of the thread ( makes it darker ). Thanks.
Hi schmookie,
I have a few spools of the Yli Silk thread which I really like and a great sub for Pearsalls silk..If you want to keep the silk from changing colour you need to use a clean place of wax and the one I use is Veniards Prepared Fly Tyers Wax and waxing the thread helps strengthen and give you more grip with less turns, it will also darken your thread as some patterns want this..I have attached a link to the Yli Silk for you to see..
All the very best Davie
www.broadlypatchwork.co.uk/yli-silk-thread
@@DavieMcPhail Hello Davie. Thanks for your response and the link. I've looked at the silk offerings from the link you provided. They have a huge variety. Would you mind listing your favorites. For example, what's a good match for the orange used in Partridge & Orange Soft Hackle? Thanks again for the advice.
@@schmoonkie www.quiltdirect.co.uk/acatalog/YLI-Silk--100-Thread-200m-Bright-Orange-216-Y20210216.html
www.quiltdirect.co.uk/acatalog/YLI-Silk--100-Thread-200m-Bright-Yellow-229-Y20210229.html#SID=857
Hi @@schmoonkie,
I have attached a couple of colours I would recommend as it's better not to buy too much just incase you don't like it...ATB Davie
gracias por los videos desde colombia
Great fly.
Very nice. Like all of your flyes. I really enjoy your videos. One question, what is the thing on your finger? Some kind of glue or wax i think, but, which is the right name? Thank you.
Hi Hugo lovenitti,
It is wax as you said, I use a Prepared Fly Tyers wax which comes from a wholesale company called Veniards..What I do is to break off a small piece and then work it between my fingers until it's soft and tacky then I stick it to the side of my finger which helps keep it soft and ready to be used when needed as you saw in the video...I'm glad you like the flies I tye....
All the very best Davie
Thank you for your answer. Iwill keep watching
Can it be used for seatrout in the small streams? 😊
Hi Nicholai Andersen,
At one time we used to have good runs of sea trout but now they are very rare, I did catch many small sea trout up to a 1lb on small wets and I'm sure the Partridge and Orange would have worked...
All the very best Davie..
Davie McPhail okay, we have alot her betwin 1 and 10 kg so i looking for flies to seatrout 😊... Btw i saw your video about dyeing feathers and that... Can that color also be used on synthetic fibers? 😊
Nice Davy! Can you please tell me where I can purchase a Nice Brown Partridge
skin with feathers like the one you used in this video.
By the way I really like the Bronze Mallard feathers you referred me too.😊
Thankyou Very Much, You Take Care.🌴🦐🎣🐠 Aloha!
Hi Kent W,
I have attached a link to the company that I bought my skin from and I have always been happy with the quality..Thank you for the kind comments...
All the very best Davie..
www.cookshill-flytying.co.uk/gsr.htm
@@DavieMcPhail Thanks for getting back to me Davie. I checked their web site but I didn't see any pictures so I went to Steve's Facebook. Nice pictures but still hard to tell what I'm shopping for.
It says that I have to get in touch with them, so I may contact them.
You Take Care Davie. 🌴🦐🎣🐠 Aloha!
I noticed a lot of the comments are asking about materials and what not, so here is a link from a reputable source that I use very frequently. The link goes straight to the partridge as that was the comment that got me thinking, but they have hoards of stuff for fly tying, lead molds, spinners, and building rods. May be of interest to you and your subscribers.
www.barlowstackle.com/Hungarian-Partridge-Skins-P1139.aspx
Good pattern
whose pen have you used?
Why do you stress waxing the thread? Is it for waterproofing or a better grip on the hook and hackle?
Hi Mike,
It is important to wax silk thread as it will strengthen and protect it. it will also add colour and also hold the hackle far better with less turns which you need to do as these threads are not as thin as the modern ones...
All the very best Davie
thank you, this helped a lot
👏👏👏👏 beautiful
Hey Davie, I have found a stash of Pearsall's Stout. I got it at a good price in my estimation. Large spools, I don't have Pearsall's gossamer is the stout thicker? I got it because it is my intention to learn to tie classic Atlantic Salmon flies. I guess I will have to teach myself and keep getting great teaching and advise from watching your video's and others too of course. Blessings. Sean
Hi Sean,
Stout floss is the heaviest of the Pearsall flosses then it's the Marabou floss which can easily be split to tye large or small flies...Pearsall's Gossamer is the tying thread used mostly in trout flies which I used in this video, they also do a Maples which is heavier and used mostly on larger flies..
All the very best Davie
Thanks Peter for the information. I am looking up the link. I can use all the help I can get. I took a beginners fly tying class and the rest I learned from watching Davie and other tiers.
Al the best, Sean
Sorry to bother you Davie could you tell me what kind of partridge you used in this video? I've looked around and to the beginner its mind boggling the sheer amount of different partridges avalaible, Chinese, Hungarian, cock and hen etc. Would you be able to recommend a suitable partridge for this fly?
Hi Sylinder Goatrider,
I bought the skins from the Glasgow Angling Centre but they didn't have any in stock so I have attached a link to some I did find though I have never used the company so it would be best to look around...If you do need advice please ask as you are not bothering me..
All the very best Davie
www.rodgersfishingtackle.com/product/chinese-partridge-skin/
+Davie McPhail thank you so much sir, you really are a gentleman. Much appreciated.
You probably already got your partridge, but here is a link to a store I buy from very frequently.
www.barlowstackle.com/Hungarian-Partridge-Skins-P1139.aspx