This is one I did to my strat, along with wiring up the neck tone pot to work on the bridge pickup as well. So what I get is a tone control on the bridge in pos. 1 or 2 and the tone on the neck in 4 and 5. In 6 or 7, the neck pot becomes a master tone for neck and bridge, tele style. In any position that involves the middle pickup(2,3,4,7), it retains it original, independent tone control.
I've done a lot of searching, but I like your videos the best. Very clear and easy to follow. You really seem to know your craft, so thought I'd ask for some advice for the best way to configure my guitar with the parts I have. I really like this 7-way strat (or maybe even the nine) but was hopping to maybe include a push/pull for a little in/out phase, and/or a blend pot. So here is what I have to play with: 3 single coils, a 5-way selector, 3 A250k pots, 1 B250k pot (not sure what the diff is between A & B), 1 A250k push/pull dpdt pot, 1 Blending pot, and a 2A473J cap (might pick up another if suggested). The pick guard is setup for three knobs, but a fourth could fit comfortably if needed. Anyway, hope i wasn't to long winded and thank you in advance.
I am definitely doing this when I get ready to put my guitar back together. I have a J. Reynolds guitar that is a direct Strat copy. It was my very first guitar (almost 12 years now). It's not the best quality guitar, but it's my first and my dad bought it for me so a friend of mine talked me into refurbishing it. I've been researching for days on ideas of what I might want to do. I'm going with some new pickups, I'm in the process of sanding the body right now and plan to paint it later this week, and probably going to order a custom neck from Warmoth customs. I saw a video earlier of a guy who did this with a Strat he had and it sounded absolutely amazing. Now that I've found the video that explains how to do it, I'm in. Thanks for this video, very informative.
OMG. I've been searching for this mod for the last 3 months and to no avail. Thank you so much! I can now finally finish my project and take it with me on tour! Thanks so much!
+Stanley Soultaire Tour? Wait - should I be packing? Are you taking me on tour? I want to go on tour!!!! Glad I was able to help you find the mod you were looking for. Don
Great schematic and clear instruction/video. This is the mod I think David Gilmore uses with all three pickups on his black start. I'm going to give it a whirl on one of my axes with lace pickups. Good job and thanks so much.
Wow. This is so cool. This is a really cool idea. If you did it with a push pull pot on the tone pot for the middle pickup, down there by the jack, then there would be no new holes, and no little switch to hit your hand on. For me, I do not like things sticking up and getting in the way. Another option would be those flatter switches like on a Jaguar, but I do not like those. Those little toggle switches are hard to deal with in that they can melt when trying to solder them. Plus they are fragile.
I finally just did this successfully. Tip for you if you have the pickups working 7 tone but you can't get the switch to work as in it won't go back to normal strategy mode. Try legs 4 and 5 instead of one and two. worked for me thanks for the tutorial.
What do you mean? Can you be more specific? Mine didn't work as advertized... I only get bridge middle, all three and neck and bridge... But I lost all other configurations and I followed the tutorial to the letter... I hate this is such a short tutorial with no more explenations or demos.... Wish there were more out there...
Exactly what was looking for, simple toggle wiring add-on. I have a micro toggle switch, sunk so that only the tip is sticking through the p/g about an 1/8" it has a small rectangular, or oblong hole for the toggle to move in. This comes through between the pots and the selector. and is just wide enough to flip it. This was done by using a piece of sheet metal about 2 1/2 inches wide, and having it bent into a z type shape with two of the pots holding it to the p/g and the bent part, which is about an inch wide, carrying the micro toggle. Which even though it is "micro" still would normally be sticking up a good 1/2 inch or more if the threaded base and all is attached directly to the p/g. If this makes any sense, hope it helps someone looking for a way to lower a toggle switch so maybe it isn't inadvertently flipped so easy. I'm going to now add in a piece of PCB board somehow (maybe have to make another wider piece of sheetmetal) which will include a socket, so I can change out the capacitor.
HEY DON, BEEN WATCHING THESE VIDS EVERY TIME I WANT TO WIRE UP MY GUITARS. 2 QUESTIONS: 1}CAN I USE A KILL SWITCH BUTTON THAT HAS LED LIGHTS FOR TURNING OFF/ON EACH PICKUP; DELETING THE 5 WAY TOGGLE; BUT ADD SOME MINI 3 WAY SWITCHES TO INDUCE OUT OF PHASE, PARALLEL/SERIES, AND ANY OTHER FUN IDEAS U CAN COME UP WITH?? 2} I HAVE SOME FISHMAN FLUENCE SINGLES/HUMBUCKERS AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE A SERIES WITH YOUR EXPERTISE DOING A HSH AND OTHER COMBOS? I WOULD DONATE IF CONTACT ME! YOUR CHANNEL IS THE GOTO FOR WIRING GUITARS, THANKS SO SO MUCH FOR TEACHING!!!!
Just did this the other day, only I added tone for the bridge with a .22 uF cap and its a push pull with this same switch only within a knob on your guitar. I think the bridge tone mod is called the Eric Johnson mod... also did the neck up with the middle tone and the middle pup is just wide open hooked up to just the volume, no tone. The perfect strat set up if I do say so myself.
Just did this mod and it works great!! I'd forgotten how much I love the sound of the neck/bridge pickups together. Very cool! Thanks for making this video!
I am so thankful to have stumbled appon this video !!! It straighted out a problem I had with an E-Obrian P.O.S that I installed a King tone switch in and Man I fucked it up royally !!!! I went step by step and found no less that five f-ups I had made. It is now dead silent as to unwanted noises and has come to life as to so many choices now :>) Merry Christmas.You made my day,Thank you very much.
also got a strat with 3 Hot Rails 4 wire humbuckers - add 1 toggle to split all 3 back to Single coil and you get All 5 stock SSS tone combos - fyi - having an ANGLED Humbucker at Bridge will be everyone's "AHA" moment... esp if u give it access to Tone Control - beats the Fender "Blacktop" HH layout that uses a 5 way to split coils
I did this to a friends Strat and it is so very cool! I am doing this to my back up Strat. My main work Strat I did this a year or so I with out help. This goes much better with you there talking us thru it. I just did the Black Guard wiring on my Telecaster. Your voice and directions made it easy. Thank the! Kev
I got this mode to my guitar four years ago using the push pull button to add the neck pick up at any time... thought up the whole thing myself then got my guitar repair guy to do it... and in addition to this i have push pull on the 2nd tone knob to attenuate the bridge pickup.
Excellent, very well presented. However unless youre only playing country it doesnt give you any of the pickup combinations that would make a strat an all-round guitar for the cover band/session musician. I have seen a similar use of a pull/push where positions 2&4 are full humbucking and sound like the bridge and neck pickups on a les paul. Into a clean amp they give you a fatter warmer sound BUT into an overdriven amp or pedal the difference is huge and you can play everything from Dire Straits to Gary Moore with the same guitar. It also isan invisible mod and doesnt change the look of your guitar. If you can afford a Fender S1 switch it is even better and simple to activate on the fly. Nice video presentation though, Ive never seen a more well presented example explaining strat switching mods.
I think this video asks a second question, and that is what is the best type of switch to put in a guitar to compliment the regular pickup selector switch. That is for another video, but it is a great question, because people have figured out how to get new sounds with the wiring by adding an extra switch. The question now is what is the best type of switch to install.
What about a mod that could put the bridge and middle pickup out of phase but in series, so it would be like a humbucker, and do the same with the middle and neck pickup. I listened to the demo of your 7 way switch wiring and I liked the sound of all 3 pickups on a clean sound. I have never heard that before.
Thank you for this video is super helpful! one question: If you want to add the bridge pickup when you are on the neck position what you have to change? thank you in advance!
Is this how the wiring works on a 3 pick up telecaster with a push pull pot as well? I am looking to add a middle pickup to my telecaster and would like to add a push pull pot to maintain the bridge/neck simultaneous sound.
I made a slight adjustment to this mod so that I could have tone control over the bridge position and was wondering if there are any ill effects... Instead of going from lug 2 of the 5-way to lug 1 of the bottom tone control, I went from lug 1 of the 5-way to lug 1 of the bottom tone. This way, the only position I don't have tone control over is the middle only position. I haven't strung it back up yet, but everything seems to work right when I do the screwdriver tap test. Am I sacrificing anything else besides the mid position tone control when I do this? Thanks so much for making these videos! I've learned a lot from just watching a few!
Hey there... I'm not sure if I'm thinking about the right lug that you're referring to but the 1st Lug (B1) on the right side of the 5-way is a common lug (corresponds to A4). You wouldn't want to use it for tone. Watch this video and you'll see how to get individual tone on the bridge and keep another for neck/middle: HSS Strat w/7-Way, Dual Cap and Coil Split Mods Don
Breja ToneWorks I think what I mean is lug A1 on the 5way (first one on the left that the bridge pup is wired directly to). So, the way it's set up in this video, I basically have the green wire that's coming from the tone pot going to the switch lug that the bridge pickup is wired to instead of the lug that the mid pickup is wired to. That dual cap mod seems to be the ideal setup for me, so I'll probably just do that eventually. Thanks for the reply, Don!
Hey Joseph... Don't take this as me being sarcastic, but you'd basically get a treble bleed along with 7 pickup combinations. Unless you have a HB in your guitar, I personally haven't found much use in a treble bleed because the SCs are pretty bright to begin with. Treble Bleeds sound best to my ears when used with Humbuckers. This mod just simply adds 2 more pickup combinations. I do have another video with this mod along with a Dual Cap mod which adds a separate tone control for your bridge pickup and combines the neck/middle into the other tone control. But there's nothing with this mod that would prevent you or require you to add the treble bleed. The treble bleed is completely independent. Let me know if you have any other questions and thanks for watching.Don
Breja ToneWorks I thought that would be your response, haha! I had asked because after I had the 7 way mod in, I decided to also add the treble bleed, but took it out because in the bridge/neck and neck/middle combo, I had lost a lot of lows(realized that wasn't the culprit). After looking over the caps I had installed, I realized I put the wrong values in. Put a 224 in rather than a 225(which ironically I have on hand. Going to leave the TB off, because I find it sounds fine as is, but will go back in when the next string change come up, and I will put the proper cap in. Honestly, I kinda like the way it sounds! Anyway, thanks for the reply! *1985 MIJ Fender Stratocaster w/ Schaller System One*
Appreciate the info. Thanks a lot! I'm planning my dream Strat build and I think this sounds like it would be a really cool option to install in it!👍😎🎸🎶
My first attempt at upgrading, this video/diagram made it so easy. I also changed the pick ups and wiring/pots, so my first attempt at soldering. Diagrams such as this made it all so easy. Why pay for a technician ?
I once played a Strat which had a Master Volume pot and Master tone pot. And the third knob was a volume nob to add in the bridge pickup. Anybody know what this is called or has a schematic?
I just don't understand why you jumped the bridge to the common on the right side of the 5-way switch. Also sometimes I'm not sure what you mean by position 1 etc. To me it's the traditional bridge position and position 5 is the neck.
Thanks as always quick question do you not ground the switch case on the strat and tele switches. I see lugs on all the cases but see some with and without grounds.
I see a jumper between the 2 tone pots on my guitar and on other strat diagrams. Then sometimes I don't see one. If Tone (1) is the middle pickup and Tone (2) is the neck, why have a jumper? It seems this would bleed them together......right? I also see some with the neck and the bridge wired up leaving the middle out (this set- up usually leaves the jumper out). Bet you could make a whole video on this subject. Thanks in advance, if you could shed some light on this.
The jumper is only used if you wish to have 2 pickups sharing a tone pot. In this particular mod that not happening so there isn't a jumper but let's say you wanted to have the middle and neck share one pot and the bridge the other, you'd have a jumper installed. The wiring on this switch right now isn't for having the right side of the switch really in use for tone control. Watch this video to get a better understanding: th-cam.com/video/wFrbjEN2ito/w-d-xo.html
Breja ToneWorks Ok, Thanks again. All clear, just have to decide which setup I will try first. think I'll do: Humbucker bridge with it's own tone, middle and neck on the second tone pot. Your video's make this much more fun to do.
This video is very useful but may I ask that how to make 2 single coil in series based on this wiring? I really want to know that how can make a extra sound for single coil in series.🌝
I'm trying to find a wiring diagram for the 7 way strat mod, preferably using a push/pull pot if possible, combined with the gibson 50s vintage wiring...any help?
I had a question about a strat mod. Is it possible to add a concentric pot in the middle pot position to have separate tone control for all of the strat pickups? I am interested in adding that to a 7way strat strat setup with a switch. Thanks!
Hey! This looks great and I really want to do it. I have a doubt, what would be different if I have the Eric Johnson mod? You know, the bottom tone controls the bridge pickup, and the middle pickup doesn't have tone control at all. Thanks!
Hey Caliche... Is your goal to keep the EJ tone controls as is? Did you check out my combo video on this 7-way and Dual-Cap mod? It does basically the same thing except T1 also affects the middle pickup. I personally like that mod the best because the bridge can have it's own tone control AND it's own cap. Email me directly at brejatoneworks@gmail.com if you want to talk more specifically about your situation. Don
Thank you so much for posting these, I have used these to wire my strats with the 7 position mod. I'm starting a new project strat and forgive me if this sounds crazy, but can we please see a 9 way strat with three push/pull pots and the dual cap mod? All the series on one tone pot and all the parallel on the other as well as a 'neck on' for the standard strat mode on the volume pot? Or a way to use your existing 9 way strat mod with the on/on/on switch but have all the series in say the 'up' position and all the parallel in the 'down' position with a push pull or on/off switch for neck on in standard strat mode?
Hello, very very nice tutorial !! great job ! I’m going to do a 7 way switch upgrade soon as possible, but I have a very important question : How do tone knobs work after this?? neck/middle? or they don’t work? if the switch is on? if it is off? sorry for this basic question, but I'm starting to get closer to this world recently and your videos are really helping me. thanks!
Hey Marco... If you're doing just this mod, the tone controls are the same as a normal strat - no difference. I do have a 7-way mod that includes my Dual Cap mod so that the bottom tone control would affect only the bridge and the other controls the neck/middle. Don
Yeah - I never understood why Fender never had tone for the Bridge since it's always the brightest of the pups. Of the three pups on a Strat, the one I personally think needs a tone control the least is the middle.
James Moore Mini pots or dual ganged pots would do the trick too to get you a total of 3-tone controls. Fitting them in the cavity and drilling out the pickguard would be the only issues.
So on the 5 way toggle switch 6 and 7 are not wired? My strat came pre wired and connected to the second tone pot, should I unsolder and doscard those cables?
Hey thanks so much for the videos, all of the info you are sharing is awesome! Also a question, how would you deal with a CTS push pull pot in the 7 way strat mod context? Thanks!!
how can i wire a push pull pot like you have in video in the place of the last treble pot the one with no cap on it so i dont have to make a new hole is there a way to do that also i want to do the 2 cap mod with the push pull pot
I have one more question for you. On my strat the bridge pickup and the middle pickup are both wired to the second tone pot. Is there a way to keep that in place with this wiring ?
Weird - NOW I see this question. Not sure why it didn't appear first. Watch my video on how the 5-way switch works and you'll see so different combinations for tone control and the various pickups. th-cam.com/video/Md9Ai1YIdn0/w-d-xo.html
How is it possible it for position 3 to be middle pickup by itself when the dpdt switch is on? Shouldn’t the bridge pickup be on in all 5 positions once the switch is flipped?
Hi! I'd like to do this in a guitar with HSS configuration 1 volume pot and 1 tone pot. The guitar has 2 potentiometer 500k. Is it possible to do this 7 way mod with a push pull in volume pot? And also I wanna do the coil split humbucker mod with a push pull tone pot! Can you help with a diagram? I don't know how to do to link one mod with the other!!!
@@lukee_v I think the answer is here. That is for HSH, but the concept and wiring is the same except for your hss you would just not have the coil split on the middle tone knob. th-cam.com/video/ueqdO1nyc8I/w-d-xo.html
I think the answer is here. That is for HSH, but the concept and wiring is the same except for your hss you would just not have the coil split on the middle tone knob. th-cam.com/video/ueqdO1nyc8I/w-d-xo.html
Sorry, wrong comment for wrong video in the bottom... Hey, so, if I only get the new configuration... meaning bridge neck, and bridge neck, middle... no matter where I move the switch.... what could have I done wrong? maybe the switch doesn't work?
Hi! Thanks for sharing this. I have a strat-type guitar (Peavey Raptor Plus EXP HSS, 1 vol 1 tone pots, 5 position switch). Could I assume there´ll be no problem if the neck+bridge position is the humbucker and the single and not single+single as in sss strats? Thanks again! To put this simpler, I would just want to use the bridge Humbucker with the single neck, is there a way to accomplish that? Thanks again!
Cool tutorial. Thanks! I’m planning on doing this mod to my Strat with a push pull (I can’t bear to modify the pick guard on their; I haven’t been able to find another like it). Question- the potentiometer I got is a 500k as opposed to the 250s that are in there now (the pickups are all still stock). Will the 500k pot work, or will it just alter the sound way too much?
If you have a humbucker pickup you want to use 500K to make sure that all of its output can come through. It can make the single coils be a little brighter, but it doesn't bother me. This could be wrong, but I think it only matters on the volume control. I'm not certain. I'm not Breja Tone Works.
The 7 position is cool. I'm going to take it one step further to put in a pushbutton switch that will allow me to bypass the volume pot all together. Too often I accidently roll off the volume. At a cost of less than $3 what can I lose...
HI Don, I just finished this and it works great! However I need to take out a knob. can you show the same wiring with a master volume and a master tone. I want to get rid of a tone knob. Thanks
Thanks for the vid! Is there any particular reason for putting the cap on lug 1? I have opened original wiring on 1985 MIJ Roadstar and other guitars and saw lug 2 used?
Hey Mike... Good question. Make no difference at all on Tone Pot. Personal Preference. What's more important is what lug is used on Volume pot to connect to Tone Pot (Modern Wiring or Vintage Wiring) Don
Hi, what i was looking for is just use the 2nd position on the switch to have bridge and middle pickups in series (not parallel) thus not adding new switches/toggles... is that possible ? thanks in advance
If the intention is to keep the Middle/Neck as parallel and the Middle/Bridge in Series, you'd have to use a 5-Way SuperSwitch or add a switch somewhere.
How do I wire this if I want to use a push pull in place for a Tone Pot? Also I want to do a Coil Split with a JB JR pickups as well (I think I need another Push Pull for that too...) Please enlighten me I am modding a strat for the second time. Thanks for the time.
Just found your videos, I've been searching for info like this as well, I was wondering how do I wire 3 single coil pick ups each having 3 wires coming from each of the pick ups. (A red, White and Blue wire) into a 5 position switch with a volume and 2 tone pots. Do you have a video for this? Keep making these videos there very informative. Cheers! Doug
Hi, great mod which I’ve just completed today using s push/pull pot. Unfortunately I’ve obviously done something wrong as most switch positions pushed or pulled seem to have all pups selected. Everything that should be earthed/grounded is, all soldered connections are good. Any ideas?
Hi. Just in case take a manifier and check if a little piece of solder could drop down inside the 5-way switch. If yes, i'm afraid you'll need to replace it. Hope it helps.
Obi Wan Kenobi Turns out I was relying on the copper shielding in the pup cavities and on the back of the scratchplate as my only source of grounding. Whilst continuity checked out ok it wasn’t good enough. Proper grounding using wire did the job though! 👍🏻
Hi there, any way you could explain how to wire this using a Fender S1 switch in the volume position instead of the push/pull pot? There are many solder points and I can't seem to find resources anywhere else online. Thanks!
Hey Larry... Try this video of mine. I explain all of the different switches and you should be able to wire the S1 no problem when you're done. Guitar Switches DeMystified If not - email me at BrejaToneWorks@gmail.com and I'll see if I can help. Don
Thanks Don, I sent you an email but I think I've got it figured out. Quick question, can I attach all my pickup grounds to a tone pot instead of the S1 volume pot as there is no room? I'm not sure if this will make much of a difference. Thanks
Larry Morgan No issue with using a different ground point. Just make sure all your ground leads terminate there though. Don't have 5 on the Tone pot and 1 on the Vol. Best of luck...
You mean my ground leads for the jack and claw? This is kind of the wiring i'm basing it on. guitarnuts2.proboards.com/thread/6423. Someone is using the S1 for something else but is grounding the pickups to the middle tone pot (for lack of room on the vol i think). Is this an acceptable wiring schematic to use? Thanks again.
Larry Morgan Hey Larry... Here's what you want. Take the back of one of your tone pots - that'll be our ground point. Take a wire from the Claw to this Tone Pot Ground - this will ground the bridge and strings. From each pickup, you take the ground wire and attach it to the Tone Pot Ground - this will ground the pickups. Take a wire from every other pot to the Tone Pot Ground - this grounds each pot. From the Output jack, take the ground wire to the Tone Pot Ground - this will ground the output. What you are doing is ensuring that all components involved in the electrical circuit are grounded to a single point - it's considered a Star ground. This will result in the lowest amount of electric hum or buzz that your guitar produces. Technically you should ground the 5-way switch or any other switch too in the same manner. Most people don't ground the 5-way switch though. A lot of guys will rely upon the foil on the bottom of the pickguard to ground the switch. Hope this helps... Don
Thank you for your support. I've met very strange situation with Schaller switches. Maybe you may help me. This is imported, looks like high quality product. A problem is that no matter what switch position is all pick ups are on. No support from either distributor or even manufacturer. please help me if you know what is the reason. Thank you.
Hi everyone, I’m building a DIY Nashville guitar with 3 single coils… could you recommend a wiring diagram that uses a Fender 5-way super switch and 2 250k potentiometers, one of which is a push-pull?
I'm trying to incorporate this mod to my already modded Strat but I'm not sure it will work. I have a coil split humbucker at the bridge already done with a on/off/on switch so it acts like a second pickup selector but I also would like it to do this by adding a push/pull pot. Is what I'm trying to do even possible?
I want to know too!!! can you show me how to wire a coil split humbucker! I need assistance on that I have a JB Jr pickup and I am building this strat What I was told is that I need 2 push pulls (one for 7 way) (one for coil split) because they use the same lugs
The Fender fanatic 97 I already have a 3way switch to coil split my bridge humbucker. When I tried to apply this particular mod in this video to the already modified circuit (having all 3 pickups fire at the same time and just the outer pickups) I used a push/pull pot in addition to the 3way switch. The problem I encountered was that the switch was always powering the humbucker no matter what. I think the mod you want to do, Breja has a video on if not this one. Coil splitting a humbucker can be done with many devices and I'm pretty sure Breja tone works has covered it in a video.
Will this alter the original sound of my 2000 standard when the switch is off ? the second tone is a no load pot that I believe works with the bridge pickup.
+Breja ToneWorks The wiring hasn't been altered. The 2000 american standard comes with the no load pot in the 2nd tone pos. It works with the bridge pickup. I like the sound now but I also like the idea of the 7 way option. I just don't want to alter the sound I have now.
+rick lavigne Are you sure it's a No-Load pot and not the TBX Pot? In any case, the 7-way mod would not affect the tone or volume controls. The mini-switch is just engaging the Bridge Pickup in positions 4 and 5. So - when you have the switch off, there is zero impact to your guitar's tone.
I tried this and it works however, when im in the bridge position and middle & bridge, my tone sounds really muffled. I have a treble bleed circuit in my strat and the push pull pot is on the bridge tone pot.
+Liam Robins I'm not entirely sure I understand you, Liam. This particular mod is only for the addition of the Neck pickup so that you get the NECK/MIDDLE/BRIDGE or BRIDGE/NECK combinations. It won't do anything for Series/Parallel. For that - you'd need some additional components.
Great tutorial!!! :) but something is not quite right. with the swith ON and position 3 I get sound from the Bridge pickup and the middle pickup (In your tutorial I'm supposed to get only the middle pickup) I did the wiring just like you :(
Yared... Not sure. I dbl-checked and my diagram is right. On the 5-way switch. B2 and B3 (right side) should NOT have anything connected to them - not sure if drawing is clear on that. Check one more time and if not, email me photo of wiring and I'll see if I can help. brejatoneworks @ gmail .com
can a DPDT mini-toggle coil split a bridge HB (disable the slug coil) as well as turn 'on' a neck pickup with the same 'on/off' switch paddle?
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man I love your videos!! I've been searching for info like this, fender hasn't been very useful. I was wondering how could I wire my neck and middle pups to the same tone know and the bridge to the other tone? I have a deluxe player's strat that comes with this specific wiring. thanks a lot man!!
I think I've found a way to do it. If I run a wire from lug 3 to the on/off switch and from there to L3 of the vol pot I can keep everything the same. The difference is pos 1 on the switch is bridge/neck and pos.2 is all 3 pickups. Please confirm this for me if you would I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
On your wiring diagram it looks like the first tone is wired to the neck pickup and the second to the middle pickup and no tone on the bridge. On the 2000 fender standard stats the second tone controls both middle and bridge pickups. I don't want to change that but I also like the 7 way mod. What is described above is called the Gilmour Mod. This way it appears I can get the 7 way mod without having to sacrifice the tone on my bridge pickup. So I was looking for some insight to this. Thanks. Oh and the way the tone is connected to both the bridge and middle there's a jumper wire from lug 6 to 7 on the switch.
Just to let you know I went with the Gilmour Mod and it worked for me. I was able to get the 7 way and keep the tone on the bridge the only difference is it's on the 1st and 2nd pos. instead of the 4th and 5th. Thanks.
Tried it multiple times, it didn't work for me, maybe my strat is wired differently? I followed step by step, I even bought a second toggle switch , sometimes I get the neck and bridge configuration, which is one of the configurations I am more interested in getting, but then Iose either bridge and middle or some other configuration... the point is I never get 7 different tones... sometimes I get the different combinations I want but I lose others.... weird. :/ there are no Strats that have different wiring? mine is a 2014 American Standard.
I want to do this on my eric clapton blackie but I dont like to change the original wiring just add toggle or push/pull pot is it possible and how to do it?
This is one I did to my strat, along with wiring up the neck tone pot to work on the bridge pickup as well. So what I get is a tone control on the bridge in pos. 1 or 2 and the tone on the neck in 4 and 5. In 6 or 7, the neck pot becomes a master tone for neck and bridge, tele style. In any position that involves the middle pickup(2,3,4,7), it retains it original, independent tone control.
How did you do it?
I've done a lot of searching, but I like your videos the best. Very clear and easy to follow. You really seem to know your craft, so thought I'd ask for some advice for the best way to configure my guitar with the parts I have. I really like this 7-way strat (or maybe even the nine) but was hopping to maybe include a push/pull for a little in/out phase, and/or a blend pot. So here is what I have to play with: 3 single coils, a 5-way selector, 3 A250k pots, 1 B250k pot (not sure what the diff is between A & B), 1 A250k push/pull dpdt pot, 1 Blending pot, and a 2A473J cap (might pick up another if suggested). The pick guard is setup for three knobs, but a fourth could fit comfortably if needed. Anyway, hope i wasn't to long winded and thank you in advance.
I am definitely doing this when I get ready to put my guitar back together. I have a J. Reynolds guitar that is a direct Strat copy. It was my very first guitar (almost 12 years now). It's not the best quality guitar, but it's my first and my dad bought it for me so a friend of mine talked me into refurbishing it. I've been researching for days on ideas of what I might want to do. I'm going with some new pickups, I'm in the process of sanding the body right now and plan to paint it later this week, and probably going to order a custom neck from Warmoth customs. I saw a video earlier of a guy who did this with a Strat he had and it sounded absolutely amazing. Now that I've found the video that explains how to do it, I'm in. Thanks for this video, very informative.
I hope it all works out for you, Joshua. Best of luck to ya...
Don
OMG. I've been searching for this mod for the last 3 months and to no avail. Thank you so much! I can now finally finish my project and take it with me on tour! Thanks so much!
+Stanley Soultaire Tour? Wait - should I be packing? Are you taking me on tour? I want to go on tour!!!! Glad I was able to help you find the mod you were looking for. Don
Great schematic and clear instruction/video. This is the mod I think David Gilmore uses with all three pickups on his black start. I'm going to give it a whirl on one of my axes with lace pickups.
Good job and thanks so much.
Wow. This is so cool. This is a really cool idea. If you did it with a push pull pot on the tone pot for the middle pickup, down there by the jack, then there would be no new holes, and no little switch to hit your hand on. For me, I do not like things sticking up and getting in the way. Another option would be those flatter switches like on a Jaguar, but I do not like those. Those little toggle switches are hard to deal with in that they can melt when trying to solder them. Plus they are fragile.
I finally just did this successfully. Tip for you if you have the pickups working 7 tone but you can't get the switch to work as in it won't go back to normal strategy mode. Try legs 4 and 5 instead of one and two. worked for me thanks for the tutorial.
What do you mean? Can you be more specific? Mine didn't work as advertized... I only get bridge middle, all three and neck and bridge... But I lost all other configurations and I followed the tutorial to the letter... I hate this is such a short tutorial with no more explenations or demos.... Wish there were more out there...
Exactly what was looking for, simple toggle wiring add-on. I have a micro toggle switch, sunk so that only the tip is sticking through the p/g about an 1/8" it has a small rectangular, or oblong hole for the toggle to move in. This comes through between the pots and the selector. and is just wide enough to flip it. This was done by using a piece of sheet metal about 2 1/2 inches wide, and having it bent into a z type shape with two of the pots holding it to the p/g and the bent part, which is about an inch wide, carrying the micro toggle. Which even though it is "micro" still would normally be sticking up a good 1/2 inch or more if the threaded base and all is attached directly to the p/g. If this makes any sense, hope it helps someone looking for a way to lower a toggle switch so maybe it isn't inadvertently flipped so easy. I'm going to now add in a piece of PCB board somehow (maybe have to make another wider piece of sheetmetal) which will include a socket, so I can change out the capacitor.
HEY DON, BEEN WATCHING THESE VIDS EVERY TIME I WANT TO WIRE UP MY GUITARS.
2 QUESTIONS:
1}CAN I USE A KILL SWITCH BUTTON THAT HAS LED LIGHTS FOR TURNING OFF/ON EACH PICKUP; DELETING THE 5 WAY TOGGLE; BUT ADD SOME MINI 3 WAY SWITCHES TO INDUCE OUT OF PHASE, PARALLEL/SERIES, AND ANY OTHER FUN IDEAS U CAN COME UP WITH??
2} I HAVE SOME FISHMAN FLUENCE SINGLES/HUMBUCKERS AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE A SERIES WITH YOUR EXPERTISE DOING A HSH AND OTHER COMBOS?
I WOULD DONATE IF CONTACT ME!
YOUR CHANNEL IS THE GOTO FOR WIRING GUITARS, THANKS SO SO MUCH FOR TEACHING!!!!
Just did this the other day, only I added tone for the bridge with a .22 uF cap and its a push pull with this same switch only within a knob on your guitar. I think the bridge tone mod is called the Eric Johnson mod... also did the neck up with the middle tone and the middle pup is just wide open hooked up to just the volume, no tone. The perfect strat set up if I do say so myself.
Thank you!!! Love my revived Squier Affinity Seties w/ 7 way wiring mod and stew mac pickups.
Just did this mod and it works great!! I'd forgotten how much I love the sound of the neck/bridge pickups together. Very cool! Thanks for making this video!
dcap4545 Glad it worked out for you. Thanks for watching.
I am so thankful to have stumbled appon this video !!! It straighted out a problem I had with an E-Obrian P.O.S that I installed a King tone switch in and Man I fucked it up royally !!!! I went step by step and found no less that five f-ups I had made. It is now dead silent as to unwanted noises and has come to life as to so many choices now :>) Merry Christmas.You made my day,Thank you very much.
also got a strat with 3 Hot Rails 4 wire humbuckers - add 1 toggle to split all 3 back to Single coil and you get All 5 stock SSS tone combos - fyi - having an ANGLED Humbucker at Bridge will be everyone's "AHA" moment... esp if u give it access to Tone Control - beats the Fender "Blacktop" HH layout that uses a 5 way to split coils
I did this to a friends Strat and it is so very cool! I am doing this to my back up Strat. My main work Strat I did this a year or so I with out help. This goes much better with you there talking us thru it. I just did the Black Guard wiring on my Telecaster. Your voice and directions made it easy.
Thank the! Kev
I got this mode to my guitar four years ago using the push pull button to add the neck pick up at any time... thought up the whole thing myself then got my guitar repair guy to do it... and in addition to this i have push pull on the 2nd tone knob to attenuate the bridge pickup.
Excellent, very well presented. However unless youre only playing country it doesnt give you any of the pickup combinations that would make a strat an all-round guitar for the cover band/session musician. I have seen a similar use of a pull/push where positions 2&4 are full humbucking and sound like the bridge and neck pickups on a les paul. Into a clean amp they give you a fatter warmer sound BUT into an overdriven amp or pedal the difference is huge and you can play everything from Dire Straits to Gary Moore with the same guitar. It also isan invisible mod and doesnt change the look of your guitar. If you can afford a Fender S1 switch it is even better and simple to activate on the fly. Nice video presentation though, Ive never seen a more well presented example explaining strat switching mods.
I think this video asks a second question, and that is what is the best type of switch to put in a guitar to compliment the regular pickup selector switch. That is for another video, but it is a great question, because people have figured out how to get new sounds with the wiring by adding an extra switch. The question now is what is the best type of switch to install.
Perfectly explained. Thank You for that!
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
Hi, I have done this 7-way stratocaster mod, with blending in neck or bridge pickup, with one of the tone pot.
What about a mod that could put the bridge and middle pickup out of phase but in series, so it would be like a humbucker, and do the same with the middle and neck pickup. I listened to the demo of your 7 way switch wiring and I liked the sound of all 3 pickups on a clean sound. I have never heard that before.
This doesn't even begin to cover how my strat was wired from the factory and now it's a ***** mess. Thanks for wasting my day.
Sounds like you wasted your own day. Did you say, "you're welcome" to yourself as well 😂
I can't wait to try it
Thank you for this video is super helpful! one question:
If you want to add the bridge pickup when you are on the neck position what you have to change?
thank you in advance!
Is this how the wiring works on a 3 pick up telecaster with a push pull pot as well? I am looking to add a middle pickup to my telecaster and would like to add a push pull pot to maintain the bridge/neck simultaneous sound.
I made a slight adjustment to this mod so that I could have tone control over the bridge position and was wondering if there are any ill effects... Instead of going from lug 2 of the 5-way to lug 1 of the bottom tone control, I went from lug 1 of the 5-way to lug 1 of the bottom tone. This way, the only position I don't have tone control over is the middle only position. I haven't strung it back up yet, but everything seems to work right when I do the screwdriver tap test. Am I sacrificing anything else besides the mid position tone control when I do this? Thanks so much for making these videos! I've learned a lot from just watching a few!
Hey there...
I'm not sure if I'm thinking about the right lug that you're referring to but the 1st Lug (B1) on the right side of the 5-way is a common lug (corresponds to A4). You wouldn't want to use it for tone. Watch this video and you'll see how to get individual tone on the bridge and keep another for neck/middle: HSS Strat w/7-Way, Dual Cap and Coil Split Mods
Don
Breja ToneWorks I think what I mean is lug A1 on the 5way (first one on the left that the bridge pup is wired directly to). So, the way it's set up in this video, I basically have the green wire that's coming from the tone pot going to the switch lug that the bridge pickup is wired to instead of the lug that the mid pickup is wired to. That dual cap mod seems to be the ideal setup for me, so I'll probably just do that eventually. Thanks for the reply, Don!
dcap4545 I really think you'll like the 7-Way/Dual Cap mod - it's my favorite one.
Awesome video! Question: What is the end result if one were to combine this mod with a Treble Bleed on the "Volume" pot?
Hey Joseph... Don't take this as me being sarcastic, but you'd basically get a treble bleed along with 7 pickup combinations. Unless you have a HB in your guitar, I personally haven't found much use in a treble bleed because the SCs are pretty bright to begin with. Treble Bleeds sound best to my ears when used with Humbuckers. This mod just simply adds 2 more pickup combinations. I do have another video with this mod along with a Dual Cap mod which adds a separate tone control for your bridge pickup and combines the neck/middle into the other tone control. But there's nothing with this mod that would prevent you or require you to add the treble bleed. The treble bleed is completely independent. Let me know if you have any other questions and thanks for watching.Don
Breja ToneWorks I thought that would be your response, haha! I had asked because after I had the 7 way mod in, I decided to also add the treble bleed, but took it out because in the bridge/neck and neck/middle combo, I had lost a lot of lows(realized that wasn't the culprit). After looking over the caps I had installed, I realized I put the wrong values in. Put a 224 in rather than a 225(which ironically I have on hand. Going to leave the TB off, because I find it sounds fine as is, but will go back in when the next string change come up, and I will put the proper cap in. Honestly, I kinda like the way it sounds! Anyway, thanks for the reply!
*1985 MIJ Fender Stratocaster w/ Schaller System One*
Appreciate the info. Thanks a lot! I'm planning my dream Strat build and I think this sounds like it would be a really cool option to install in it!👍😎🎸🎶
I know this is an older video, but thanks very much!
Hi, quick question, how would you go about it if I want to add the bridge pickup to the tone control?
Hi, and what can I do if I have the Chinese 7-leg leveler switch only?
Thank you indeed, great video super easy. Just a question, how can I add the bridge pu to the middle tone?
My first attempt at upgrading, this video/diagram made it so easy. I also changed the pick ups and wiring/pots, so my first attempt at soldering. Diagrams such as this made it all so easy. Why pay for a technician ?
Good Job. Glad you enjoyed the video and that it helped ya.
I once played a Strat which had a Master Volume pot and Master tone pot. And the third knob was a volume nob to add in the bridge pickup. Anybody know what this is called or has a schematic?
Thanks. I may do this mod to all my guitars. All 40 of them LOL
I just don't understand why you jumped the bridge to the common on the right side of the 5-way switch. Also sometimes I'm not sure what you mean by position 1 etc. To me it's the traditional bridge position and position 5 is the neck.
What kind of software did you use to create this magnificent presentation please. Thanks
Thanks as always quick question do you not ground the switch case on the strat and tele switches. I see lugs on all the cases but see some with and without grounds.
+Joe Dov Personally I don't ground the switches. As long as the underside of the pickguard has the coil or tape for grounding, the switch is grounded.
That's what I assumed thanks for the advice
Google on/on switch diagrams and yours is one of the first ones to show up?
I see a jumper between the 2 tone pots on my guitar and on other strat diagrams.
Then sometimes I don't see one. If Tone (1) is the middle pickup and Tone (2) is the neck, why have a jumper? It seems this would bleed them together......right?
I also see some with the neck and the bridge wired up leaving the middle out (this set-
up usually leaves the jumper out). Bet you could make a whole video on this subject.
Thanks in advance, if you could shed some light on this.
The jumper is only used if you wish to have 2 pickups sharing a tone pot. In this particular mod that not happening so there isn't a jumper but let's say you wanted to have the middle and neck share one pot and the bridge the other, you'd have a jumper installed. The wiring on this switch right now isn't for having the right side of the switch really in use for tone control. Watch this video to get a better understanding: th-cam.com/video/wFrbjEN2ito/w-d-xo.html
Breja ToneWorks
Ok, Thanks again. All clear, just have to decide which setup I will try first. think I'll do: Humbucker bridge with it's own tone, middle and neck on the second tone pot.
Your video's make this much more fun to do.
This video is very useful but may I ask that how to make 2 single coil in series based on this wiring? I really want to know that how can make a extra sound for single coil in series.🌝
I'm trying to find a wiring diagram for the 7 way strat mod, preferably using a push/pull pot if possible, combined with the gibson 50s vintage wiring...any help?
+StevieBGoode Email me directly at: brejatoneworks@gmail.com
Great Video! Please could I have a copy of this, maybe also with an indication of how to get the bridge pickup attached to a tone knob?
I had a question about a strat mod. Is it possible to add a concentric pot in the middle pot position to have separate tone control for all of the strat pickups?
I am interested in adding that to a 7way strat strat setup with a switch.
Thanks!
Hey! This looks great and I really want to do it. I have a doubt, what would be different if I have the Eric Johnson mod? You know, the bottom tone controls the bridge pickup, and the middle pickup doesn't have tone control at all. Thanks!
Hey Caliche...
Is your goal to keep the EJ tone controls as is? Did you check out my combo video on this 7-way and Dual-Cap mod? It does basically the same thing except T1 also affects the middle pickup. I personally like that mod the best because the bridge can have it's own tone control AND it's own cap. Email me directly at brejatoneworks@gmail.com if you want to talk more specifically about your situation.
Don
Thank you so much for posting these, I have used these to wire my strats with the 7 position mod. I'm starting a new project strat and forgive me if this sounds crazy, but can we please see a 9 way strat with three push/pull pots and the dual cap mod? All the series on one tone pot and all the parallel on the other as well as a 'neck on' for the standard strat mode on the volume pot?
Or a way to use your existing 9 way strat mod with the on/on/on switch but have all the series in say the 'up' position and all the parallel in the 'down' position with a push pull or on/off switch for neck on in standard strat mode?
Hello,
very very nice tutorial !! great job !
I’m going to do a 7 way switch upgrade soon as possible, but I have a very important question :
How do tone knobs work after this?? neck/middle? or they don’t work? if the switch is on? if it is off?
sorry for this basic question, but I'm starting to get closer to this world recently and your videos are really helping me.
thanks!
Hey Marco...
If you're doing just this mod, the tone controls are the same as a normal strat - no difference. I do have a 7-way mod that includes my Dual Cap mod so that the bottom tone control would affect only the bridge and the other controls the neck/middle.
Don
Thanks ! Ok, now I understand the difference between the 2 vids !
you are doing a great job with this videos !
looking forward to new videos !
m
Comin’ up on my next build
Will the tone knob work on the two added pickup combinations?
not really a strat guy but always wondered what was the purpose of the 2nd tone pot?
Yeah - I never understood why Fender never had tone for the Bridge since it's always the brightest of the pups. Of the three pups on a Strat, the one I personally think needs a tone control the least is the middle.
of course then you could have 3 tone controls with 3 different capacitors, i wonder if the make a 7 way switch?
James Moore
Mini pots or dual ganged pots would do the trick too to get you a total of 3-tone controls. Fitting them in the cavity and drilling out the pickguard would be the only issues.
Can you adjust your neck pickup tone when tje switch is on?
where do you install the new switch if i get a push pull like in the vider
So on the 5 way toggle switch 6 and 7 are not wired? My strat came pre wired and connected to the second tone pot, should I unsolder and doscard those cables?
Hey thanks so much for the videos, all of the info you are sharing is awesome! Also a question, how would you deal with a CTS push pull pot in the 7 way strat mod context? Thanks!!
how can i wire a push pull pot like you have in video in the place of the last treble pot the one with no cap on it so i dont have to make a new hole is there a way to do that also i want to do the 2 cap mod with the push pull pot
I have one more question for you. On my strat the bridge pickup and the middle pickup are both wired to the second tone pot. Is there a way to keep that in place with this wiring ?
Weird - NOW I see this question. Not sure why it didn't appear first. Watch my video on how the 5-way switch works and you'll see so different combinations for tone control and the various pickups. th-cam.com/video/Md9Ai1YIdn0/w-d-xo.html
Why is this diagram showing up under using an ON/ON switch when your using an ON/OFF switch.....causing some of us some issues
How is it possible it for position 3 to be middle pickup by itself when the dpdt switch is on? Shouldn’t the bridge pickup be on in all 5 positions once the switch is flipped?
I think what I mean is: with the dpdt switch flipped on wouldn’t the middle pickup never be by itself?
Hi! I'd like to do this in a guitar with HSS configuration 1 volume pot and 1 tone pot. The guitar has 2 potentiometer 500k. Is it possible to do this 7 way mod with a push pull in volume pot? And also I wanna do the coil split humbucker mod with a push pull tone pot! Can you help with a diagram? I don't know how to do to link one mod with the other!!!
just leaving a comment here waiting for an answer thank you :))
@@lukee_v I think the answer is here. That is for HSH, but the concept and wiring is the same except for your hss you would just not have the coil split on the middle tone knob. th-cam.com/video/ueqdO1nyc8I/w-d-xo.html
I think the answer is here. That is for HSH, but the concept and wiring is the same except for your hss you would just not have the coil split on the middle tone knob. th-cam.com/video/ueqdO1nyc8I/w-d-xo.html
@@TheGreenBard thank you!
Sorry, wrong comment for wrong video in the bottom... Hey, so, if I only get the new configuration... meaning bridge neck, and bridge neck, middle... no matter where I move the switch.... what could have I done wrong? maybe the switch doesn't work?
Hi! Thanks for sharing this. I have a strat-type guitar (Peavey Raptor Plus EXP HSS, 1 vol 1 tone pots, 5 position switch). Could I assume there´ll be no problem if the neck+bridge position is the humbucker and the single and not single+single as in sss strats? Thanks again!
To put this simpler, I would just want to use the bridge Humbucker with the single neck, is there a way to accomplish that? Thanks again!
Cool tutorial. Thanks! I’m planning on doing this mod to my Strat with a push pull (I can’t bear to modify the pick guard on their; I haven’t been able to find another like it). Question- the potentiometer I got is a 500k as opposed to the 250s that are in there now (the pickups are all still stock). Will the 500k pot work, or will it just alter the sound way too much?
If you have a humbucker pickup you want to use 500K to make sure that all of its output can come through. It can make the single coils be a little brighter, but it doesn't bother me. This could be wrong, but I think it only matters on the volume control. I'm not certain. I'm not Breja Tone Works.
StratMatt777 cool. Thanks!
The 7 position is cool. I'm going to take it one step further to put in a pushbutton switch that will allow me to bypass the volume pot all together. Too often I accidently roll off the volume. At a cost of less than $3 what can I lose...
HI Don,
I just finished this and it works great! However I need to take out a knob. can you show the same wiring with a master volume and a master tone. I want to get rid of a tone knob. Thanks
Hey Lance...
Email me directly at: brejatoneworks@gmail.com and I can get you a scheme.
Ok nice and well explained, but you never talk about treblebleeding parts at the VOL pot, very important imo. Thanks for the vids.
Thanks for the vid! Is there any particular reason for putting the cap on lug 1? I have opened original wiring on 1985 MIJ Roadstar and other guitars and saw lug 2 used?
Hey Mike... Good question. Make no difference at all on Tone Pot. Personal Preference. What's more important is what lug is used on Volume pot to connect to Tone Pot (Modern Wiring or Vintage Wiring)
Don
Will this work with the EMG pre-wired David Gilmour pickguard setup? It looks like it will, but I don't want to try it until I'm sure.
Those tend to have PCB boards. If you feel comfortable working with them - Yes, you can do it by adding the extra switch and wiring it correctly.
I ordered a Dimazio On/On switch to do the 7 way Gilmore strat will that work?
Hi,
what i was looking for is just use the 2nd position on the switch to have bridge and middle pickups in series (not parallel) thus not adding new switches/toggles... is that possible ? thanks in advance
If the intention is to keep the Middle/Neck as parallel and the Middle/Bridge in Series, you'd have to use a 5-Way SuperSwitch or add a switch somewhere.
Can you pls do a 1 volume 1 tone for this? Or maybe for all your strat wiring mods.. thanks
great video
Will this work with squire parts, I have a modified squire with the original pickups, pots, and 5 way switch and this won't work for me
How do I wire this if I want to use a push pull in place for a Tone Pot? Also I want to do a Coil Split with a JB JR pickups as well (I think I need another Push Pull for that too...) Please enlighten me I am modding a strat for the second time. Thanks for the time.
Just found your videos, I've been searching for info like this as well, I was wondering how do I wire 3 single coil pick ups each having 3 wires coming from each of the pick ups. (A red, White and Blue wire) into a 5 position switch with a volume and 2 tone pots. Do you have a video for this? Keep making these videos there very informative. Cheers! Doug
Hi ... can i doo this on my strat with the clapton mid boost ?
Hi, great mod which I’ve just completed today using s push/pull pot. Unfortunately I’ve obviously done something wrong as most switch positions pushed or pulled seem to have all pups selected. Everything that should be earthed/grounded is, all soldered connections are good. Any ideas?
Hi. Just in case take a manifier and check if a little piece of solder could drop down inside the 5-way switch. If yes, i'm afraid you'll need to replace it. Hope it helps.
Obi Wan Kenobi Turns out I was relying on the copper shielding in the pup cavities and on the back of the scratchplate as my only source of grounding. Whilst continuity checked out ok it wasn’t good enough. Proper grounding using wire did the job though! 👍🏻
Hi there, any way you could explain how to wire this using a Fender S1 switch in the volume position instead of the push/pull pot? There are many solder points and I can't seem to find resources anywhere else online. Thanks!
Hey Larry... Try this video of mine. I explain all of the different switches and you should be able to wire the S1 no problem when you're done. Guitar Switches DeMystified
If not - email me at BrejaToneWorks@gmail.com and I'll see if I can help. Don
Thanks Don, I sent you an email but I think I've got it figured out. Quick question, can I attach all my pickup grounds to a tone pot instead of the S1 volume pot as there is no room? I'm not sure if this will make much of a difference. Thanks
Larry Morgan
No issue with using a different ground point. Just make sure all your ground leads terminate there though. Don't have 5 on the Tone pot and 1 on the Vol. Best of luck...
You mean my ground leads for the jack and claw? This is kind of the wiring i'm basing it on. guitarnuts2.proboards.com/thread/6423. Someone is using the S1 for something else but is grounding the pickups to the middle tone pot (for lack of room on the vol i think). Is this an acceptable wiring schematic to use? Thanks again.
Larry Morgan
Hey Larry... Here's what you want. Take the back of one of your tone pots - that'll be our ground point. Take a wire from the Claw to this Tone Pot Ground - this will ground the bridge and strings. From each pickup, you take the ground wire and attach it to the Tone Pot Ground - this will ground the pickups. Take a wire from every other pot to the Tone Pot Ground - this grounds each pot. From the Output jack, take the ground wire to the Tone Pot Ground - this will ground the output. What you are doing is ensuring that all components involved in the electrical circuit are grounded to a single point - it's considered a Star ground. This will result in the lowest amount of electric hum or buzz that your guitar produces. Technically you should ground the 5-way switch or any other switch too in the same manner. Most people don't ground the 5-way switch though. A lot of guys will rely upon the foil on the bottom of the pickguard to ground the switch. Hope this helps... Don
Great video BTW. I was wondering about how to do hss strat with a coil split, the 7 way mod and the series and parallel mod. in desperate need of help
Thank you for your support. I've met very strange situation with Schaller switches. Maybe you may help me. This is imported, looks like high quality product. A problem is that no matter what switch position is all pick ups are on. No support from either distributor or even manufacturer.
please help me if you know what is the reason. Thank you.
Hi everyone, I’m building a DIY Nashville guitar with 3 single coils… could you recommend a wiring diagram that uses a Fender 5-way super switch and 2 250k potentiometers, one of which is a push-pull?
If I have an on/off/on switch do I need to put a jumper between both on positions?
Can you show this mod using a push pull pot instead of the switch?
I'm trying to incorporate this mod to my already modded Strat but I'm not sure it will work. I have a coil split humbucker at the bridge already done with a on/off/on switch so it acts like a second pickup selector but I also would like it to do this by adding a push/pull pot. Is what I'm trying to do even possible?
I want to know too!!! can you show me how to wire a coil split humbucker! I need assistance on that I have a JB Jr pickup and I am building this strat
What I was told is that I need 2 push pulls (one for 7 way) (one for coil split) because they use the same lugs
The Fender fanatic 97
I already have a 3way switch to coil split my bridge humbucker. When I tried to apply this particular mod in this video to the already modified circuit (having all 3 pickups fire at the same time and just the outer pickups) I used a push/pull pot in addition to the 3way switch. The problem I encountered was that the switch was always powering the humbucker no matter what. I think the mod you want to do, Breja has a video on if not this one. Coil splitting a humbucker can be done with many devices and I'm pretty sure Breja tone works has covered it in a video.
Will this alter the original sound of my 2000 standard when the switch is off ? the second tone is a no load pot that I believe works with the bridge pickup.
+rick lavigne Do you know how your No-Load pot is and the rest is currently wired?
+Breja ToneWorks The wiring hasn't been altered. The 2000 american standard comes with the no load pot in the 2nd tone pos. It works with the bridge pickup. I like the sound now but I also like the idea of the 7 way option. I just don't want to alter the sound I have now.
+rick lavigne Are you sure it's a No-Load pot and not the TBX Pot? In any case, the 7-way mod would not affect the tone or volume controls. The mini-switch is just engaging the Bridge Pickup in positions 4 and 5. So - when you have the switch off, there is zero impact to your guitar's tone.
+Breja ToneWorks Thanks !
I tried this and it works however, when im in the bridge position and middle & bridge, my tone sounds really muffled. I have a treble bleed circuit in my strat and the push pull pot is on the bridge tone pot.
hello please help me with David Gilmours electronic on strat, does this version is Gilmours?
Can you not turn the bridge on when in the middle position, for parallel rather than series like the standard?
+Liam Robins I'm not entirely sure I understand you, Liam. This particular mod is only for the addition of the Neck pickup so that you get the NECK/MIDDLE/BRIDGE or BRIDGE/NECK combinations. It won't do anything for Series/Parallel. For that - you'd need some additional components.
Great tutorial!!! :)
but something is not quite right.
with the swith ON and position 3 I get sound from the Bridge pickup and the middle pickup (In your tutorial I'm supposed to get only the middle pickup)
I did the wiring just like you :(
Yared... Not sure. I dbl-checked and my diagram is right. On the 5-way switch. B2 and B3 (right side) should NOT have anything connected to them - not sure if drawing is clear on that. Check one more time and if not, email me photo of wiring and I'll see if I can help. brejatoneworks @ gmail .com
Really nice. Is posible with a 50´s wiring ?? Thanks
can a DPDT mini-toggle coil split a bridge HB (disable the slug coil) as well as turn 'on' a neck pickup with the same 'on/off' switch paddle?
man I love your videos!! I've been searching for info like this, fender hasn't been very useful. I was wondering how could I wire my neck and middle pups to the same tone know and the bridge to the other tone? I have a deluxe player's strat that comes with this specific wiring. thanks a lot man!!
Is it possible to do this and have the bridge tone control?
Hello, is it possible doing this 7 way mod along with the vintage (or 50s) wiring style ?
+Stanley Moore Yes. Slight change in wire locations though. Email me at: brejatoneworks@gmail.com and I can help.
I think I've found a way to do it. If I run a wire from lug 3 to the on/off switch and from there to L3 of the vol pot I can keep everything the same. The difference is pos 1 on the switch is bridge/neck and pos.2 is all 3 pickups. Please confirm this for me if you would I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Rick... What exactly are you try to do with what you're describing?
On your wiring diagram it looks like the first tone is wired to the neck pickup and the second to the middle pickup and no tone on the bridge. On the 2000 fender standard stats the second tone controls both middle and bridge pickups. I don't want to change that but I also like the 7 way mod. What is described above is called the Gilmour Mod. This way it appears I can get the 7 way mod without having to sacrifice the tone on my bridge pickup. So I was looking for some insight to this. Thanks. Oh and the way the tone is connected to both the bridge and middle there's a jumper wire from lug 6 to 7 on the switch.
Just to let you know I went with the Gilmour Mod and it worked for me. I was able to get the 7 way and keep the tone on the bridge the only difference is it's on the 1st and 2nd pos. instead of the 4th and 5th. Thanks.
rick lavigne Rick could you make a video explaining the gilmour mod?
Hi, can i do this with master tone control pot?????? And how can i do it????? Help me please!!!!!
Tried it multiple times, it didn't work for me, maybe my strat is wired differently? I followed step by step, I even bought a second toggle switch , sometimes I get the neck and bridge configuration, which is one of the configurations I am more interested in getting, but then Iose either bridge and middle or some other configuration... the point is I never get 7 different tones... sometimes I get the different combinations I want but I lose others.... weird. :/ there are no Strats that have different wiring? mine is a 2014 American Standard.
Luis Sutil did you ever get this figured out? I’m running into the same problem
What does bridge ground mean? not a native speaker
WHEN YOU COMBINED NECK AND BRIDGE, ARE THEY SERIES OR PARALLEL ?
Parallel
I want to do this on my eric clapton blackie but I dont like to change the original wiring just add toggle or push/pull pot is it possible and how to do it?
so when it say "ground" you solder on the tremolo claw?
Does this work with an hss config?