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Norway is a very wealthy country. Due to its massive oilfields!
The UK buys the majority of its natural gas from Norway.
As a Finn I always found their hypocrisy hilarious!😆
And hydro power.
@@totallyjonesin Almost ideal…except for the shite weather…🤡
And also they didn't spent their money for muslims.😁
As Norway thinks oil and natural gas is so dirty someone should really take all that dirty stuff off their hands, to relieve them of that huge burden...
Sounds like they want some FREEDOM
Maybe they should give back the lands they almost stole from us in Denmark.
A drunk liberal democrat literally gave it away..
@@TheGuruStudthey could use some BALD EAGLES 🦅🦅🦅
Need more democracy
But they can't donate it gratis... can't encourage overconsumption you see....
Imagine buying an electric toy car while owning multiple other ICE cars, while making your money from oil and gas, like Norway do.
"but mom ! i'm saving the planet !"
@@mro9466 lol Well. it looks as if some have yet to grasp the total insignificance of their actions on
anything as large as a planet. Oddly enough, they still think that they and what they do still matters.
@@Goodnessandlovecliche typer. Cliche typer. Cliche typer.
In Norway we replace ICE with EV.
As a Brit with Norwiegen residency I can confirm most of the points raised by MGuy. With a population of 5.3 millions and a very large “oil fund” from major exports of petroleum, it’s easy to subsidise EV purchasing.
There is still a good following of American car enthusiasts who use their gas guzzlers for summer jaunts to their country cabins in the mountains and Forrest’s at weekends. Most family’s have second older petrol or diesel cars anyway.
A certain Inter island ferry company has banned the transportation of EVs due to potential fire risk onboard vessels…..so its not all green as it’s made out to be 😊
This ferry situation is going to grow and grow. It cost me £30.000 so I'm quite aware of what's happening in the shipping world.
Exxon drone
I have read that many European countries wont allow EVs through tunnels if there is work going on in those tunnels that requires (even temporary) stopping traffic flow.
EV's are not about saving anything, it is about imposing control...
You are afraid of losing control because you want control. Is this irony?
@@Apjooz Control over your own life is what he meant. EV's already have ability to limit both range, locations and times of use remotely with out asking the owner. Since those are mostly wirelessly updated and you own only the hardware, company can do what ever they wish with the software and if you agreed the user agreement, you (or previous owner) have given them permission to limit your range or time of use. They then control where and when you can drive with it, remotely disable it, or hell even lock you inside and deliver you to police station for breaking the curfew and there is nothing you can do about it, specially in the point where normal cars will get banned and crushed, only leaving these things available. This is just another attempt on 15 minute cities they already tried and those failed, but this one is not by government, but private corporation and far more insidious as they will wait until most of the population has agreed to it .. Corporation just happens to serve same interests as the government and both of their globalist owners..... and you call this irony? Now go eat ze bugs like good drone you are
@@Apjooz You mean he's afraid of losing control over his own life because he wants control over it? Where's the irony in that? He's not trying to control other people...
@@peekaboo1575 All part of the same game.
@@Apjooz I do not want to control or be controlled ...
EV'S will never be net zero
i dont think you understand what net zero is
@@dps615 maybe I don’t either then could you explain for all of us that don’t understand what net zero is please
@@dps615net zero is a crock of sh.t no matter what way its spun
@@dps615don't think you do
the "net zero" achieved in 2022 or 2023 according to Senator Gerard Rennick in his speech to the Senate in 2023.
If in doubt write to him.
So essentially, those stats are saying that EVs in Norway have increased the environmental damage caused by cars by close to 100%. If people are still using ICE vehicles and simply buying an EXTRA car (EV) for short trips around town, then all the resources used to create those EVs that are just an extra car for around town would not have been used if not for the OPM (other people's money) being splashed about recklessly. Once again, government achieves the exact opposite of what it said it was doing. Yay for Government! Yay for EVs being the tools of evil and stupid governments and yay for the tools who buy EVs!
The ABC champions people replacing perfectly good ICE cars with EVs and ignores this point as well. Your ABC denies reality on so so many environmental matters.
Yes and there are always some of them posting here in the comments about how EVs are the greatest thing on earth and we’re all just a bunch of Luddites.
My own interpretation is that the oil/fuel demand for Trucks and trains has not dropped (or possibly risen) in Norway. What EVangelists often forget is that ICE cars (for personal transportation) consume only about 10% of total oil demand, and replacing all ICE cars with EVs won't make a dent on the remaining 90% demand. Trucks are much harder to convert to battery power (methane is potentially the best alternative solution but expensive).
@@davidbarry6900more than 10% I think, but overall you're right.
I worked at a electrical manufacturing company that's now been asset striped and closed that designed and made home charging boxes.the bosses farmed them out to a subsidiary in Thailand and within weeks we had to do repairs to the shoddy workmanship costing the company it's reputation along with extra time and money to remake them ,let alone the danger with a faulty box attached to your house....the firm was called fabrinet . Please avoid there products if possible
So the lesson from this, don't trust anything from China & now Thailand? Anything made in Mexico is crap as well. I wonder if Vietnamese products are reliable. Japanese products are always top notch.
What worries me most about all these EV's, is that when people realize they cannot sell their car because replacing battery is too expencive, many will dump their cars in lakes and fjords to report them stolen for insurance payouts. The poison from these cars will be impossibke to contain, and the water will be poisoned for eternity. We already find gasoline cars in mass in lakes and fjords. I'm pretty sure you need license to carry more than 100kg of special goods too. Seems somebody forgot that about the EV's .
Yep, throw away technology
@@hobo1704 Just like phones
Bingo
please don't be that ridiculous.
A Tesla Model 3 from 2017 has now 650.000km on it's first battery, and if you advertise a used EV battery from an accident car, it is sold in minutes and there are a hundred usage cases for the used batteries.
Stop buying the shit that this ridiculous channel is spewing out, reality is very different from that. I do not know a single person who would want to go back to ICE cars.
@@hanswallner2188 You need to get out more.
Funny how they want us to blindly follow one Scandinavian country now (Norway) while completely ignoring another Scandinavian country (Sweden) about two years ago.
Sweden, world leader in hand grenades of peace.
@@robertkubrick3738 I am old enough to remember when Sweden was Swedish.
they buy electric cars for some virtue signaling, not to use them obviously
They buy an EV because it's cheaper and then don't use it? Really, are you sure?
Why would I need a gas car if I have an ev?
@@Luka_3DCause you actually like to get where you're going, without hassel, and anxiety.
I only got a Nissan leaf, and it's asume
EV's are cheaper to run, because ICE cars are burdened with fuel, road and toll taxes
Nobody's ever needed to give me a free coffee to calm me down at a service station...
"During summer weekends, when Oslo residents flee to country cottages, the line to recharge sometimes backs up down the off-ramp." So that's how the future dominated by EV looks like and they still want electrification of military vehicles. Are they really that stupid or are they bought by the enemies?
A large dam that has 20,000,000 tons of concrete - say moved 20 miles. Conservatively 1 gallon per ton per mile - 20 million gallons for concrete and perhaps 5 million tons for steel production and transport for a total of 25 million gallons of fuel. There are 3 million vehicles in Norway; or about 1 dam for every 8,000 cars. That is equivelant to 3,125 gallons per car. A car that gets 40mpg could go 125,000 miles. If it is really 40 miles total distance from source to dam its 250,000 miles worth of CO2 per vehicle in Norway. Doesn't sound like zero emission to me. Plus the EVs weigh more; plus they lose 15% in transmission and 10x more mining CO2.
you just had to do it didn't you! use logic and reasoning! there's one in every crowd they say,,,,,
Their climate isn't conducive to efficient battery operation either.
Think the terrain is a lot like the Highlands of Scotland. Lots and lots of hills, also very windy and rainy,
@@jazztheglass6139And bloody cold in the winter.
@@emceedoctorb3022 I talked to a local who lived in a secluded house about life in the Highlands. He said the snow can get upto 9 foot deep. He told me of a time the military had to dig the snow out around his house. Tough people in the Highlands
@@emceedoctorb3022 , where in Norway? Not Oslo.
Many cars are taken off the road in Norway for the winter and people bring out their large off road vehicles 😂.
Lol! "A parrot pining for the fjords". 😂
Well said. 👍
I was just scrolling - to see if anyone else had noticed!!!
@@lucylovitt9583 Yeah, I'm s big Monty Python fan. I'm happy that MGuy is one, as well. 😊
That Parrot is as dead as the EV will soon be.
It is time that we Engineers ran the world, Simon.
Let’s see how it goes when those EVs hitting junk yards and burning down the country. LOL
I wonder why car fire rates are going down
The "a parrot pinin' for the fjords" comment nearly took me out!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am amazed that nobody has asked some effing obvious questions: 80% of new cars are EVs, but how many is that? How many cars are purchased annually? How many cars are there in Norway? Is the number of current cars changing and if so by how much? Is the new ICE ban in 2025 viable?
I usually find that when people are reluctant to ask those questions, they know the answer and decide to let sleeping dogs lie.
Thank you!- everyone misses this point on both sides. You don't have to sell a lot of EVs to hit the mandated percentages, you just have to crush ICE sales enough, so that the remaining EV sales (mostly to corporate and govt fleets like everywhere else) make up those percentages. The 80%+ EV sales in Norway, occurred during the worst overall auto sales in 60 YEARS! And they don't have an auto industry to destroy.
Sorry to disappoint, but gas and electricity is more expensive then in countries that buy electricity and gas from Norway, for example Lithuania buy's gas and petrol from Norway but it's more expensive in Norway.
Also I had 3 electric cars in Oslo and i will never ever buy one again, they are fun for the first week then it becomes extra inconvenience.
I found it ironic that it was said that the grid can withstand the demand from the recharging stations, whilst then adding that there are queues down the off ramp to recharge. This simply means that the number of chargers does not exceed the capacity which the grid is capable of supplying, (in other words, someone has done the maths for once).
Pinin' for the Fjords! The Norwegian blue prefers kippin' on his back.
Oh, yes - fuck EV's, too many cons & not enough pros.
That is an exparrot
@@partymanau This parrot wouldn't vooom if you put 4,000,000 volts through it - it has ceased to be.
Shit, I just posted the same joke then saw your comment!
Yes that is an ex EV. Do you have any cheese? How about some Wensleydale?
@@aussiedonaldduck2854 No, we had some Wendsleydale, but it appears we’ve run out.
"...and no doubt, a parrot pining for the fiords." Brilliant! EV's and dead parrots do have a lot in common.
Hahaha, "slime"!! Loved it! Thanks mate.
You need to debate electric Viking moderated by John cadogan.
That is not possible. Ideologists live in their own reality.
I've blocked his channel from my feed .
I don't believe Mguy or Electric Viking are absolutist, they just serve the algorithm God.
Norway doesn't report EV fires. They keep them under wraps and it takes substantial research to find a story about them. I talking about you literally have to go to local pubs and talk with people because I s never in the news.
Why is it that whenever someone mentions hydro-electric generation and Norway "The Heroes of Telemark " comes to mind.
Brilliant. Thank you. My family is from and living in Norway, and you are spot on.
The Norwegian Blue ! The world,s rarest parrot species.
I wonder what Norway is going to do with all the fire hazard junk EV's, also, where are all the dead batteries going from these children's toys?
Life should become very interesting after 2025 in Norway.
My Norwegian family brings out the ICE to go to the mountains and the ski lodge. The EV cannot even carry the skis and gear let alone the family for a weekend away.
Last year i drove return trip from ski town Geilo to Bergen in an Ev - the amount of time spent/wasted while waiting for car to charge during trip at tesla stations was about 7 hours!!! Bloody boring waste of time that wouldn’t have been lost if we drove an ICE car. Tesla charging stations are more expensive than petrol too
Plus the fact that Norway has a population smaller than Sydney .
Gee, being that the plastics in EVs, lubricants for wheel bearings, the asphalt roads, the mining of all the minerals for batteries, the equipment used to build roads, etc. all rely of oil, no wonder demand hasn’t decreased.
You can’t get the heavy oil products without producing the light ones first. The demand for heavy products is unchanged.
So true. We will always need plastics and lubricants so what will they do with the volatile petrol if it's all Battery car?
@@robertkubrick3738 sell it to Africa/Asia at dirt cheap prices? It’s an unwanted byproduct, right??
@@lukeheatley4148 Cool, I live in Asia as much of the year as I can. It would be hilarious to see them surpass the first world because they finally got cheap energy.
@@robertkubrick3738 and with low prices for diesel and petrol consumption will ultimately rise. Hilarious and true.
Small isolated homogenized populations like in Norway can do things that won't work in a real nation.
Diesel ⛽️ will always be needed for semis and other trucks.
They are the hugest consumers of petro.
That and aircraft.
Norwegian Blue.
And Norway and USA blew up Nordstream. It makes me sad.
Add to all that, that the enormous sounding of "80% of newly bought cars" has to be set in relation to, about 5.5 million inhabitants. So how high might the actual car market, be overall in absolute numbers, to have any effect on oil usage.
I like to think, that even the "rich" Norwegians aren't buying new cars every year.
'''THE HILLS ARE ALIVE....
WTH THE SOUNDS OF EV'S EXPLODING''
Great video and info. Keep up the great work.
The best thing about EV's is that they identify idiots.
Very well said, you hit the nail on the head
"It's pinin' for the fjords. Lovely plumage, eh?"
In Norway, it is almost impossible for private individuals to buy cars that use petrol or diesel. Such cars have 100% import tax, while EVs are not charged with taxes. It has been like this for 10 years. So car dealers only sell EVs. The prices of used normal cars are rising, and sales of EVs are falling, among other things because the authorities are in the process of removing some of the advantages EVs have had and because many have experienced that EVs do not work as the only car in this long sparsely populated country. Greetings from a Norwegian car owner who does NOT own an EV, but who drives 10-year-old diesel cars.
It's amazing how many glorify Norway's example of leading the world in EV adoption. Put another way Norwegian government has far too much control over its citizens choices and has weaponized it's own citizens money against them. That's a dictatorship.
Where are they getting all of their EVs? Are they Chinese? Does Norway make an EV?
They had a big investment with the failing chinese Battery car maker NIO whose stock price is around $5 USD.
Norway is different - no government debt debt. Why ? Cause of oil. And still the only way they adopted EV is because of massive government subsidies for EV's and massive government penalties for ICE.
The important thing to note is that this hasn't changed the climate even a teeny tiny smidgeon. It's all about the virtue signalling.
Wow what hypocritical country. Its actually hilarious watching them run at the wall of sensibility and we will watch them go bang.
What you can't say outloud is that the Norwegian officials are all a bunch of feminists. No real males onboard.
jealous much?
Finally, a channel for people who have never looked into EVs or EV issues, but somehow know everything about it. 😂
Ya gotta love the windmill and EV ads tacked onto these videos! 😂
EVs ride on oil based road when are we coming out with electric roads ha
Amen Brother
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
In June 2024 daily consumption was 164000 barrels per day. In December 2023 was 213000. There is a decline of 30% in just a few months. Oil consumption had recovered after covid crisis even in Norway.
I cannot see how filling the country withe EVs will help anything. Second cars shoul be things like VW Polos or Toyota Starlets.
- a 60mpg ICE car is generally better for the environment than a lardy EV - unless the grid is completely Nuclear or Renewable (cough cough). - Yaris cross 1.5 Hybrid it is then...
(A removable batteryin the boot would be fantastic - to give enough Electric range for the (avoiding ULEZ / Congestion $$ or simply inner city bans) city, while removing to create space to add luggage for the longer trips
The inevitable EV fires will help keep people warm?
Only about 65 percent of households have cars in a country of 5 million
Don't have a go at Norwegians. Norway is one of the few countries left that offer a great and prosperous place to raise your children. Yes, they are lucky they have a lot of oil and abundant hydro but also have a small population. I remember working there many years ago and asking a young boy for directions. He spoke in flawless English, which was remarkable. You can't blame me them for buying Teslas for town driving and using a great rail network for longer distances. If I could leave the UK, which is drowning in debt, social unrest, and a stagnating economy, I would live in Norway. The food is also fantastic.
Maybe do an episode on the change in electricity consumption in Norway. See it going up.
One possibility you might not be considering for the lack of a significant decrease in the use of oil in Norway is maybe the human tendency to feel like since I'm saving it over here I can use more over there, maybe turning up their thermostats or other things that use more oil. It's the old conundrum you get into with a diet of having a Diet Coke with a piece of chocolate fudge cake.
We need more great and very informative videos like this. Well said.
They are definitely informative. Inaccurate and cherry-picked, but informative
How much of their children's inheritance has their government squandered on EV subsidies? And how much more will it cost to dispose of the EV's when the batteries give up after not being used all winter?
At a gas station near me in Canada the only 2 chargers have had out of service signs for over 3 weeks.
"EV Charges far out way petrol bowsers" that's because bowsers takes about a sixtieth of the time to use.
It's not just ICEs. People don't realize how much the petrochemical industry provides, even for EVs
This reminds me of the movie “Lost Horizons” about a wonderful land called Shangri La that’s hidden in the Himalaya’s where everything is sunshine and roses and everyone is perfectly happy. Then you find out that gold is so plentiful there that lumps of it are laying around on the ground to be picked up like Easter eggs and the citizens simply trade them with the outside world for everything they need
Number of issues here,
1. oil consumption HAS gone down in Norway
2. Norway has a small population spread out over a large country, so any decrease is going to be small
3. Most of the oil demand in Norway is for Diesel, for things like trucks and public transportation that tends not to be EV in nature so it won’t have any impact on oil demand
4. Norway also has many ferries that are used for public transportation and again these are powered by oil, and ships use an enormous amount of oil.
For someone who claims to be an educated person, I suggest that you consider doing some better research
I noticed a phenomenon when I was working maintenance in an office building. I'm sure the phenomenon has some fancy name. We occasionally replace a fluorescent light to you for a ballast here and there nothing big. Then one day all of a sudden we start replacing fluorescent light tubes and balance by the case. Within three months we replace more fluorescent light tubes in ballast then we had had in the previous 5 years. I am I going to happen with Norway and all EVs. A lot of them is going to reach the end of their service life at the same time. You going to end up with thousands of EVs hitting the junkyards in a relatively short amount. Now that is going to be a big mess.
In the U.S. states like Tennessee have realized that EVs never buy petrol and therefore never pay the road tax that ICEs do. EVs and hybrids now pay an additional $200.00 or $125.00 when they renew their vehicle license. EV and hybrid owners are not pleased.
Norway is the size of Montana and a population of about Minnesota. Problem with EV’s is America is much larger than just one state. Good luck EV’ers
As an inhabitant of Norway for the last 16 years I have witnessed the EV upcoming and know the current state of affairs and I am sorry to conclude that some of the things you presume need some correction. Most EV's are in the category big and even bigger, the category of small and ugly as were sold in the beginning (looking weird as they shouldn't look like ICE cars) have died out. There are more than enough households that only own an EV and use it to drive to their cottages in the weekend. Some have roofracks, some have towbars for using the usual two-wheeled hitches for transporting things locally. So they are used more and more like ''normal'' vehicles. They are also used during winter when it can get quite cold. Is everything looking peachy then? Far from it. The financial incentives need to be coughed up by everybody else, like the subsidies to get sales prices to an acceptable level, rebates on toll road fares and all the other perks that were used to lure people to exchange their diesel cars for an EV. And are you low on battery and need to switch off the heating, you'll need your thermal undies
Does Norway have an ample electricity supply with clean hydro power? No, not anymore. Last year in the south prices skyrocketed because of low water levels in the reservoirs. To add insult to injury export of electricity was not halted, driving up prices even more. The government set up a programme where everybody got subsidized when prices went over a set cost; too complicated to eradicate on here, but the bottom line was that the government paid out much less than what came in. The extra income disappeared into the mentioned pension fund. All the wind power facilities (I won't call them parks) added to increased prices. In order to save the planet it has been decided to feed oil rigs with electricity from land, adding to a future electricity deficit. Not making it mandatory that oil company Equinor should feed its rigs with wind from floating wind mills (part of their renewals portfolio) says something about the viability of that adventure; water to the sea.
The most irritating about the EV thing is that everybody not owning one has to bleed for it. I read that last year about half of the road tax that came in went to keeping cost for EV's low; meanwhile most of the road net outside the Oslo area has the quality of a second world country. Grid upgrades must be paid for, there are strict rules for the use of the oil fund money. No more money for the sick and the elderly, that Norway is often called for as the world's richest country is only because the councils don't get the financial means from higher up to pay for what are their legal tasks.
Just my 20 øre.
Simon. Only one problem with "driving 110 miles south from Oslo". One ends up in the Skagerrak. It's only 54 miles to the coast at Frederikstad !!
Probably used miles instead of kilometers by mistake.
@@robertkubrick3738 But 54 miles is 87 km. One would still be 23 km into the Skagerrak !!
I hope that Norwegian Blue in your caption was just skipping on it's back and not been electrocuted!!! 🤣👍🇬🇧
Gas car owners just buy an additional EV for the sake of being GREEN.
- need something to avoid "pollution charges" in the cities...
NO!
Its all about getting what you need for your needs
Good point and it's putting huge pressure on high wages and other macro inflatory markers.
Pining for the fjords! Brilliant!
Zero is a good figure. Imagine the OIL demand in Norway without EVs!
What's the hypocrisy? Of course, they make money from oil! I'm glad they do! Mankind will still need a lot of oil for a long time, even if all new cars sold are electric!
"The New York Slimes" 😅 That's a good one. I'm going to borrow it okay?? 😅
Someone will invent outboard petrol engines to attach to EVs.
I just bought a 2005 Camry. This car will out last any POS EV.
Norway gives massive tax breaks for new EVs!
bravo
Norway has one of the largest sovereign wealth funds, making each of their citizens wealthy, funding their EV fantasy
Here in the US, 100% of all new cars and trucks are battery powered, and 100% of all used vehicles are battery powered. They all require a battery to start and run, so that makes them battery powered till the ICE engine kicks in. Lets see Norway's real numbers.
Britain will be like Cuba too if the ICE ban goes ahead. Give up my ICE car? No way ! Cuba here we come!
This time last year I was in Norway and there a a lot of evs in and around the major cities and it makes sense because of the cheap abundant power and the fact that the distances between cities,towns and villages is not much more than walking distance .Unlike Australia where distances between any human settlement in rural and remote areas (the majority of the landmass) can and is in the hundreds of kilometers and an almost no existent power grid . The logistics and cost of providing power between Port Augusta and Darwin or Port Augusta and Perth to allow evs would be staggering , so much so that if the user pays principle was applied a full recharge after 4 or 5 hundred ks would make a $400-500 diesel refill at ilkurlka road house seem as an absolute bargain
It’s a cult. And cultists rarely admit they are wrong
"pining for the fjords" 🤣🤣🤣
Plenty of oil 🛢 in EV's as they contain a ton of plastics & insulation used in the wiring 😁
AWESOME mate
Isn't Norway home of the , 'I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok ' , On a serious note the demand for plastic and plastic derived products has sored , eg. cellophane which covers nearly everything !!!
No, the lumberjack song mentions British Columbia in Canada.
@@arnolddavies6734 Yes I know , it was in response to the dead parrot reference !!
My understanding is that the government of Norway wants to reduce local petroleum consumption so they can export more $$$$$.
I didn't know they also exported electric power.
EV owners have many ICE vehicles in their collection, fun fact.
Not one single valid point was said in this video.
Close to 50% of cars on the road in Norway are EVs. Of course, the petrol and diesel consumption is going down. Less than 10% of all driving in Norway is "long distance."
Norwegians are not clinging onto their ICE cars because they desperately need them. Try to come up with one thing that an ICE car can do that an EV can't do for regular people.
Norway has built.around 1500 hydro dams and is a darling of the green movement.
So if we built 1500 “Franklin Dams “ we would now be green darlings too?!?!
hypocrisy is one of if not the worst human traits know to humanity esports in it’s deliberate form.
sadly its far far to
common these says
Pining for the fjords.....
PINING FOR THE FJORDS!!!!!
Gasoline and Diesel are only two products of crude, right? Even if there were no gas cars, oil is still used for almost everything in modern life.