Episodju 022 ma' Robert Musumeci | Jon Mallia Podcast
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2021
- Semmejnih kemm-il darba waqt il-poddati u ħafna minnkom tlabtu li jiġi. Fl-aħħar laqa' l-istedina tagħna Robert Musumeci u qalilna li ma tilifx episodju wieħed!
Ma' Robert Musumeci tkellimna dwar il-moralità, il-korruzzjoni fi ħdan il-PL, Daphne Caruana Galizia, fuqu bħala lettur l-Univerita ta' Malta u fuq kif kien iħossu meta kont insemmih waqt il-poddata.
Ma qbilniex fuq ħafna affarijiet imma kellna konverzazzjoni tassew kordjali u interessanti.
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Podcast tajjeb imma li tippruva issaqsi mistaoqsija semlici, u xorta wahda Robert johrog mil argument, tar-remettar.
2 Mistoqsijiet lil jon....
1. Kemm kont urtat mil-fatt li biex tohrog twegiba min ghand Robert, ridt taghddi mis sagramenti kolla - Ghazel min 1-10
2. Ghalfejn ghazilt 15.
Jon, first of all thank you for once again producing a top podcast. You asked the right questions and put your guest on the spot more than once. I hope you invite more people like him, because Mr. Musumeci is not used to be being asked the "right" questions. Even though he thinks he managed to run you around in circles, your audience is intelligent enough to see right through him.
Not only going round in circles but at one point one got in doubt as to who was interviewing who. Still a very good podcast (like all seen so far) but Robert is by no means a soft nut to crack and Jon struggled. Am very surprised that there were a couple of questions directly linked to the main issue addressed in this podcast that remained unasked.
Interesting podcast but would have liked Jon to discuss our urban enviorment. Since the Mr. Musumeci knows how to deal and find loopholes in our current planning laws. Also is one of the architecht responsible for the mess we have.
We hoped to, but ran out of time and stamina!
@@kennethbone2598 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Robert Musemuci fuq Jerry Springer.
Jerry Springer: "DNA shows you are the father".
Robert Musemuci: "DNA is still not conclusive".
😂😂😂😂
L istuzzjonijiet qed jahdmu! Halluna! Dawk li resqu bhal Keith Schembri w ta mieghu xejn m huma ser jehlu! Hmieg!
That politician is either blind or corrupt like the rest of his friends, party and government! No point arguing with Robert, John keep up the good work! You cooked him:)
Jon you are great! You made the guy in the Old Testament, whose name is 2/3 of yours, and lived in the land of Uz, very, very, very proud.
Tat-taqlib ta stonku din il persuna. Politikant tipiku - idawwar kull mistoqsija u juza l istituzjonijiet li ma jahdmux minajr lebda opinjoni personali. No more one sided politicians. Nitallmu u nifthu mohhna iktar irridu, mhux nies iduru mal lewza u jilaqu l min jimlilom il but.
Xi dwejjaq ta' bniedem u sfortunatament ta' podcast (mhux tort ta' Jon). Allahares kelna nuzaw biss ic-certezza legali biex niggudikaw u naslu ghal-konkluzonijiet fuq il-politikanti u dawk li jservuna fis-servizzi publicci. Ic-certezza legali huwa kejl oneruz wisq, u ghalhekk facli biex ma jintlahaqx jekk dak huwa l-iskop ta' min ma jixtieqx jinqabad. Jevita li jsemmi ismijiet, anki jekk dawk imsemmija (perezempju Silvio Valletta) diga gew ikkastigati minn dan l-istess gvern. Avukat li ma jifhimx xinhi 'separation of powers' u jrid legislatur bla limitu/razan. Dan il-bniedem huwa xejn iktar minn serp velenuz u perikoluz. Public enemy.
certezza legali huwa kejl relattiv u komdu biex tinheba warajha. jekk ikollok ligi dghajfa u/jew judikatura dghajfa ic-certezza legali tiehu l-istess sfond jew aghar.
A perfect definition of a naive person
Robert Musumeci enjoyed my highest esteem, an accomplished person academically, even though there were times we disagreed, many years ago. Nowadays his replies worry me, they come in the form of a lawyer's dodge - neutral adjectives, yes but no, possibly, maybe, could be. Giving the impression of being afraid to reply............Outspoken used to be 2nd nature to Robert Musumeci.
Perit/dottore il- qasba ma ccaqqcaqx ghalxejn!!!
He is a crook like the rest of them. How can a politician running this country not outright condem hitlers actions. Robert is indenial of the fact that he maybe studied hard at school, and is probably a good academic… but at the end of the day he sides with the people who killed a journalist fighting corruption! And he will NEVER have the decency to stand up against corruption
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Jekk il-poplu taghna qed jghazel politici li lanqas ghandhom il-bajd li jammettu li l-ghazla ta Hitler kien zball kolossali u inuman, mela tabilhaqq haqqna lil nindifnu taht il-konkos u r-rebgha. Tal-biki, l-inkapacita ta dawn in-nies li jammettu li saru zbalji kbar taht dan il-gvern. L-importanti li naqalaw lira malajr, li n-nies jghidulna "Proset ministru, 40k", li nibqaw lejali lejn il-klikka u mhux il-pajjiz fil-waqt li ninhbew wara li zbalji li ghamlu ta qabilna. Zomm l-poplu hmar, halli iddendel il-karotta u jimxi fejn trid, sa dan it-tant min qied fuq il-karru jibqa jiffanga u jahxi, waqt li l-hmar igorr il-piz u l-konsegwenzi.
Laktar kument ta sugu u bil bajd gol youtube kollhu kemm hu. Proset habib, verament taf xinti tghid! Rnexilhek isemi lproblemi ul manuvri kolla li ilhom ghaddejin go dal pajiz zmien u omor! Proset
Podcast tajba ohra
Spicca jibla irsienu
Speechless!
Tuna next week!
That must have been very tiring John !! The first podcast I stopped half way through.
L-unika tama ghal dan l-episodju u dan il-gens hija is-sezzjoni tal-kummenti. Mill bqija is-sur RM jaqtalek nifsek
bloody incredible.....
Prosit Dr Musumeci. Jon, ghal darba ma kellekx persuna jobzoq sentiment ta' mibgheda kontra l kamp oppost.
Mhux kull m'hu tajjeb ghalik hu tajjeb ghalija u vici versa, ghalhekk ma tistax taqta linja sa fejn hu tajjeb jew hazin. Musumeci nahseb tkellem tajjeb dwar din il-haga! Ma tistax tghid jekk Gens jivvotax tajjeb jew le. Ghal gens germaniz, forsi dak iz-zmien ra li dik kienet l-ahjar deccizjoni ghalihom u ghal pajjizhom! Semplici Jon, inti f'ghajnejk tara arma ghal uzu hazin u haddiehor jarha l-istess haga bhala bicca ghodda tajba li tista taqdieh! Dik id-dinja bro :)
jon: alura robert liema huwa il kulur favorit tijak ???
robert: ara meta tara l amonti ta kuluri li hemm u li ghandha irridu insibu huwa fatt li ukoll li ma tantx aw kuluri sbieh huwa fatt ukoll li fil valuri li nhaden jna bhala avukat huma differenti hafna mill valuri ta xi hadd iehor ghalura jna oggetivament ma nista nghid li daw il kuluri biss jna min jna biex nghid li dawk il kulur jogobni
Apoloġista par excellence.
Bil-lube u l-vazellina lest ha ngerrih ghal dan l-imbroljun.
ha tibqa sbalordit sal-bajd mela...
That KSN comment aged like fine wine in less than a week
Musumeci jidher li huwa perennement avukat; perennement jistenna d-Dinja ddur biex tgħaddi ġudizzju hi għalih, li ma jmurx jirfes xi kallu! Jekk jirċievi rigal f'għeluq sninu, probabli jħallih magħluq jistenna l-eżitu ta' riċerka dwaru... u kif jiftħu jgħidli li għoġbu bi spallejh il-fuq jgħidu "da xiż-żobb hu?!" Bniedem li jgħix bil-professjoni ta' avukat 'l ħin kollu u jitlef kull sens ta' opinjoni u ġudizzju personali, iġibli ħasra kbira. Ehhh kien żmien ieħor meta fuq Smash Radio, Musumeci kien iwasslilna l-klassifika mużikali mill-Ingilterra!
the continous dis-associativity, escapism (u le m'ghandix x'naqsam...u le mhux hekk, ha nghidlek jien...) and the-second-party irrelativism - as long as i indirectly impose my relativism to your argument - when faced against clear cut common sensical conclusions is a damning and destructive attitude and tactic.
Dan ihobb Jistenna qisu !
Kienet interessanti għas-sempliċi raġuni li dar ma' kull mistoqsija xi sitt mitt darba u ma wasalna mkien. Huwa impossibli li tislet affermazzjoni mingħand nies bħal Musumeci għal raġunijiet ovvji ħafna. Kellu l-opportunità li jneħħi l-libsa ta' avukat fuq dil-podcast imma għażel li jibqa' biha u agħar minn hekk, trattakom ta' Nazzjonalisti - hawnhekk inħraqt jien. Ġie fuq il-podcast daqslikieku kien fuq in-Net meta fil-verità fuq dil-podcast tiddiskutu b'moħħ miftuħ ideat u riflessjonijiet lil hinn mill-mentalità tribali. Jekk verament ra l-episodji tal-istaġun li għadda, għala ddeċieda li jitkellem daqsliekieku għandu quddiemu rappreżentant tal-PN? Għal darb' oħra, għal raġunijiet ovvji ħafna.
L-istess ħsibijiet tiegħi.
Saw this coming… his aim wasn’t to discuss but to counter examine every single question/statement/argument Jon made. Big waste of time.
Dan kien l-unika podcast minn tieghek li ma rajtux kollu ghax wara ftit minuti ndunajt li mhu se niehdu xejn minnu.
Robert Musumeci jippreferi ma jkunx hemm politikant li ma jiehux b’idejn bniedem korrott u traditur ta’ Malta. F’kliem iehor jippreferi ma jkunx hawn politikanti bi principju. Dizgrazzja ta’ bniedem.
Morals don't change, Mors do!!!!
Musumeci is right. Il-Poplu Sovran! imma xorta il-Legislatur m'ghandux ikollu poter assolut fejn hadd ma jista jinfdu u jimxi Sovran fuq kollox u kulhadd! Dak il-gwaj prezenti!
Ghogobni haffna Dr. Musumeci meta ddefenda d-demokrazijja b'dak il-mod. Demokrazijja fuq kollox.
These guys legit believe that using bombastic vocabulary makes them smarter.
prosit john mallia .....ghanzi ma nafx kif gie dan .......flok mar jistahba.....
Ghaziz Jon, filwaqt li nghidlek prosit; quddiemek ma kellekx lil Robert Musumeci imma kellek rapprezentant tal-gvern, li bhala perit/avukat l-agenda tieghu kienet li jiddefendi lilu nnifsu u lil istess gvern li jhaddmu. Kienet vera evidenti li ghal mistoqsijiet li inti pprezentajt, inhoss li ma kienx hemm risposti oggettivi bizzejjed, u l argumenti min-naha tieghu gew artikolati minn lenti legali biss. Vera bniedem tal-gazz li irnexxielek tissaportih ghax lili kien iqabbizieli zgur.
"Ħa nistenna l-eżitu" ta' din l-intervista qabel ma' ngħaddi opinjoni dwar din l-intervista!! Fl-ewwel 20 minuta diġà faqqajt xi 10 facepalms!! Mulej!
Eżatt bħalek.
Uzgur li jista jiehu zball meta jivvota gens. U kif Robert ghax jien ivvutajt lil partit Laburista ghax ridt bidla. Nahlef fuq hajti li never again. Qazzistu l-Alla.
7:59, prosit Jon Mallia, drop mic, hallejtlu bla kliem
I had to take 5 breaks while listening to this podcast, and I am only an hour in xD how frustrating
Jitnejjek bin nies fwiccom. Qas tiflah tarah jaq. Qisu robot ituh il habel u jajd li jajdulu mux ax vera jemen fih. Alinqas ahjar temmen ek milli temmen li jemmen li qed jajdlek jon. Inkun qed nistenijom il podcast ima da iqalalek listonku. Sorry.😕
inhossni listess ezatt
Tat tqallih veru! Jakk
How did you not discuss the elephant in the room when it comes to Robert Musumeci and his ever controversial planning applications?
Was on the agenda ... ran out of time and stamina. My apologies! Was indeed an important point.
Jekk trid turina kemm hu tajjeb il ecabs missek qabadtlu wiehed dak il hin u battu lura. Programm sfurzatt, qas kien kapaci jwiegeb mistoqsija bazika. Bniedem edukkat u inteligenti imma l-idejalizmu u il-lejalta tieghu tilimitah milli jkun onest.
1:09 u ma niflahx iktar. Tired. Beating around the bush. L-argument qieghed jiggebbed izzejjed.
Meta se jibda dan il podcast???
Jon. Lil dan Robert li ghamel tant hsara irreparabli, ghaliex ma saqsejtuhx fuq il-permess fuq artijiet li hargu bil-firma tieghu?
Xi hsara amel ?
Xamiltu jon kif belaw ilsienu🤣🤣 itemtem gi has hazin gej u iehor sejjer proset bro🤜🤛
Jon: "Ghalfejn Robert biddel il-kummissarju?"
Musumeci: "Ghax 'adopera' id-diskrezzjoni."
Jon: Imma "id-diskrezzjoni informata minn xi haga..."
Musumeci:
Exhausting and no mention of his PA applications in ODZ areas.
Nies kompetenti fil-Korp, MFSA u MP difficli meta thares lejn il-pagi li lesti jofru. U din tipqa problema fundamentali. Jien dejjem jipqali id-dubbji tieghi meta persuna li ghadu jibda il-karriera jilhaq ministru, meta fil-bidu tal-Karrieri tkun ghadek qed tibni lilek innifsek
Bobby 'idur mal-lewza' Muzzy. Nice architecture you've build around the stereotypical view of lawyers. People who can't see through that frail veneer must be blind or brain-dead.
Only at 10 mins and already feeling nauseous. What an absolute tool.
Il-komuniżmu mhux tajjeb on paper? Il-kapitaliżmu la hu tajjeb on paper u lanqas fil-prattika - u qed inbatu l-konsegwenzi tiegħu kuljum. Ma ndaħħkux.
Kenneth Bone ghogobtni ta vera!! Staqsejt domanda li ilha tbgheren f mohhi zmien twil: Allura ghaliex nillimitaw ruhna ghaz 2 sessi biss? Ghalfejn mhux kull orjentament sesswali, religjon etc? Nahseb li b dawn l ideat se nifthu l Pandora's Box!
Konna minn tal-ewwel li dik il-kaxxa ftaħniha, u biex tgħaxxaq poġġejnieha fl-għola istituzzjoni tal-pajjiz. U ser inkunu minn ta' l-ewwel li nħallsu għaliha. Peak woke incoming.
Geluz (jealous)??? jew ghajjur,nghir?
Podcast tajjeb ħafna, pero , xejn personali lejħ ghax qas biss nafu , imma din li qed jaqbeż il-Bone dejjem minn wara qed ttini ftit f'sormi to be honest 😂 jew iġbduh mal-mejda u jithol f podcast kollhu jew jissaporti u joqghod naqra kwiet 😛
Skużani bro , just biex nkun naqra onest ❤️
Jogħġobni l-fatt li Bone jaqbeż. Xi ħaġa mhux tas-soltu, u jagħti valur lill- konverżazzjoni. Għandu jibqa' jiddeffes!!
Question for Jon: how frustrating was this discussion - on a scale of 1 to 10…..with 10 being ‘impenetrable and patronising’.
11 I suppose
Tyranny of the Majority - Jean Jacques Rousseau.
Kemm qal he subscribes too?
Ghalkemm din il-poddata nhasset pedanti hafna w hawn jien naqbel mal qbijja tal poplin li ssegwu din il poddata, rridu nkunu ftit konxji dwar il fatt li musumeci gab ruhu ta avukat, li ovjament huwa l-ambitu naturali tieghu. Din l-iskrizzjoni li jien stess ghazilt li nharbex, mhu qeda bla ebda mod zkuzanti ghal l-ghagier insensat ta' musumeci, tant kemm hu ekk li jien stess kelli hafna drabi hsieb biex nieqaf narah. Il"modus operandi" ta musumeci versu ruh sacojali tal poddata kien pjuttost jinhass perverz jew ahjar "modulat", dan minhabba l-fatt li zamm f'bahar li territoljament mhu ta hadd. Meta persuna jigi affrontat b'mistoqijiet li logikament huma cari u netti hafna drabi huwa xoghol l-istess avukat biex l-istess risposta twaqqa mod inufficjali direzzjoni natruali tal mistoqsija. Hija hasra li musumeci uza terminologijja biex mod esplicitu skapula jew ahjar xejjen il possibbilita ta fejn seta' jimrah l-opinjoni riflessa mil valuri li jhaddan hu. Hi hasra l-fatt li b'mod tekkinku ma fhemx il problema rigwardanti l-istazzjonjiniet perverzi tal one u net. fi'kliem zijed komuni musumeci hela hin tal poddata qalla!!! fuck it hux ma hemm xejn x'taghmel hux hlief li tinduna kemm dak LSA ghadnu izjed potenzjal biex ikun politiku ferm izjed konxju tal polzz socjali versu natura perversa li twassal ghall inkwinazzjoni kontinwa ta' l-avukati.
Domtu 20 minuta tiddibattu jekk il gens Germania kienx ghamel zball li ghazel li jghazel li Hitler fil gvern.....kollox jiddependi jekk Hitler kienx iddikjara bill quddiem li kien se jwettaq l- Holocaust kella tkun ir risposta...
ECJ: Musumeci has no logical tenure in this regard. He cannot conclude a posteriori that the change was not needed. As the saying goes, with hindisght we are all geniuses. We had an absolute mechanism; pressure by Opposition was made; Venice commission agreed; here the timeline splits - a)the Gov is 'thinking' about it; decides to cave in to the Comm's recommendations before hearing the ruling of the ECJ; b)Repubblika opens a case with the ECJ; the ECJ rules that the previous mechanism did not fundamentally break any rights of rule. One cannot say that it was not needed just because he now knows the answer. I'd rather say that it was a Political move ie Gov and friends somehow knew that listening or not will not make a difference and so allowed to make the change, to make future leverage.
kemm hu demokratiku jaħasra, f'pajjiż ta' poplu imbeċilli u li jibla' kollox, x'ma jkunx demokratiku
S'issa (għax s'hawn għadni smajt) din kienet l-agħar "konverżazzjoni" li kellkom. U ngħid "konverżazzjoni" għax ma kienet konverżazzjoni xejn. Jirrispondi bħala politikant, jgħid ħafna diskors imma ma jgħid xejn - qisna qegħdin dibattitu politiku fuq Xarabank, u dan mhux tort tat-tim tal- podcast. Qas xejn. Il- mistieden ma neżagħx il-kappell ta' politiku u allura ma ġiex bħala persuna miftuħa għal taħdita. Robert, jiddispjaċini, imma ma kontx nafek, qas xejn, għax propju għalhekk qed nisma dal-podcasts biex forsi nibda nitgħallem, però minn dan li rajt hawn m'ghogobtni xejn. Inti t-tip ta' politiku li m'ghandniex bżonn - wieħed li jirrispondi bil-kliem, mingħajr ma jgħid xejn. Jibqa' jiddubita minn dak li hu ċar. Jibqa jgħid, "Ejja nistennew" u s-susa tibqa tiekol. U persuna bħalek għamlet iktar deni lill-PL b'dil-"konverżazzjoni".
Kemm inhobbu lil Dr Musumeci! Ma jiddejjaq xejn jaghti l-opinjoni tieghu, jghidu x'jghidu n-nies!
His monologues are impenetrable. He can’t string a sentence together without going down a legalistic rabbit hole. Should have stuck to DJ’ing.
Kieku jaghti opinjoni...........
@@johannzahra3317 Well many intelligent people are frequently misunderstood if not outright hated or perceived incorrectly.
I love the fact that he is both a lawyer and an architect.
Of course you’re entitled to your opinion - għalhekk il-baqra tinbieħ kollha!
Shame they didn’t discuss his fishy ODZ application track record. Him being a lawyer-architect-government consultant-DJ and all that…..
its funny how musumeci wants the people to choose but last election we were forced to accept 20 - 25 people without the consent of the people loooool
Meta kont rajt it-trailer ta dan il-podcast ma Musumeci ghidt: Uwejja No Way (ghax qatt ma kont nobsor li dan isehh) u kont looking forward.
Imma sorry ghajjet nismaghha din il-podcast vera boring. Ma tiehu xejn minn ghandu hlief li idur u jdur ma l'istess risposti bl'istess twegibiet. Ciao!! ...Next
L-istorja ta' kif in-Nazizmu mexa 'l quddiem il-Germanja hija hekk - meta l-poplu kien qed jivvota ghal Hitler, Hitler wieghed li l-Germanja se johrogha mill-faqar li kellhom ta' wara l-ewwel gwerra dinjija. Allura il-poplu Germaniz ivvota tajjeb ghaliex harighom mill-faqar li kellhom. Avolja il-propoganda ta' Hitler kienet illi dan il-faqar li kellhom kien imhabba il-banek Lhud li kienu jintaxxaw hafna lill-poplu u kellhom awtorita' totali fuq il-finanzi tal-Germanja. Allura il-poplu Germaniz bdew jarawhon koroh lill-Lhud peress li ma kienux qed jghinu l-pajjiz taghhom biex il-Germanja tqum fuq saqajha.
Ghad li l-Germanizi kienu jaraw il-Lhud jigu arrestati wara xi hruq fis-singagogi jew jaghlqulhom il-banek taghhom, il-propoganda kienet li dawn kienu jaharqu s-sinagogi il-Lhud stess biex ipoggu dell ikrah lill-gvern Nazizta.
Kemm hu weird t tali!
Pseudo intellectual.
Wtf? Utter bollocks...
xi żlieq u rettilaġni ta' bniedem