HARVEST TIME WALKABOUT - CRAZY ABUNDANCE!!! Fall 2021
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2021
- SO MUCH APPLE ABUNDANCE we are GIVING 160 pound of apples FREE to members of the farm. Time for a harvest time WALKABOUT: Hazelnuts, Irrigation, My New Favorite Apple, Apple Abundance, Seeded orchard update, unusual Weather, Food Forest, Summer Pruning of Honey Locust, Chop and Drop, Chickens in the Permaculture Orchard, Chicken Effect Results, Grape Collection.
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I was pleasantly surprised to see the American chestnuts there. I have quite a few pure American chestnut nuts (and a few Chinese) that are coming out of cold stratification now that I’ll be planting next week. Also, the black/honey locust trees have a nice form and are gorgeous. They let a good amount of dappled light through their canopy.
I haven’t seen an apple orchard since I was a kid, 50 years ago.
Also, my grandfather liked to create new kinds of apples by attaching branches of one kind to a different tree. He had an apple tree on the farm that had the best apples I ever tasted. They were yellow/ green. So sweet we used to pick them and use a popsicle stick to pretend they were candy suckers. Nova Scotia.
If you can grow paw paw in your zone they work great as a underplanting to walnut, since like handle shade well and don’t seem to be bothered by juglone.
Most plants native to the northeastern forests are immune to/tolerant of juglone. Pawpaw ofc included
My grandpa used to create mounds of a layer of hay or straw, a layer of apples, a layer of straw again, a layer of very thin dirt of top and repeat. The apples were in between the straw layers. The apples kept fresh for a long time. And he would uncover from the side and get them as needed. The winters were not as harsh though as in Canada. If the apples keep well, you can wrap in newspaper and pack them on cardboard boxes. Keep in dark cool place. That’s it! Cheers Stefan!
Hey Stefan! Im from Barrie On and we had a gypsy moth infestation. Now im watching everyone taping their trees and spraying. We have apples growing in our yard. We didnt do the spraying the taping the whatevering. Instead we put out bird feeders and let the birds come to our yard. Next thing u know the infestation became less and less each day. Yes we lost some leaves here and there but boy did we have a great harvest! We got 5, 5 gallon buckets of apples. (We only have 2 trees) just thought id share my experience with u because i believe we are on the same page about gardening
Ecosystem services matter. Well done, next nest boxes and letting wasps nest in your yard.
So true I walk in the future every day and every day it give me pleasure and enjoy in the present,25 years ago I bought 80 acres and planted 3,500 evergreen ,700 red pine ,100 tamarack ,white cedar and berries trees for the birds,now some this tree’s are 25 feet I could see wild life in between the row that was my plan ,now today I walk in nature and see my dream come true ,incroyable comment sa fait du bien et je peux partager avec mes enfants et petit enfant ,simplicity is key connect with nature
Keep it up, fantastic.
Sir Stefan
You are a very good teacher
That saying I'm here in Missouri telling you of my first planting of pear trees
I've learned a lot from your videos
The pear I received is a red Bartlett called Sensation
Root stock Betulaefolia
Tolerates dry conditions
Winter hardy
Is fire blight resistant and pear decline
Late August ripening very sweet
Wish me luck on this
I'm looking out 3 years to taste my rewards
Love how you share with your members
Have a great autumn up state of me
Linda
Wonderful you started. Exciting now you will get the itch to have more. Then you you will wonder what to do with all the food. A great problem to have.
The orchard is looking beautiful in the September light.
I just love these walkthrough videos. Reminds me of walking through the orchard with my parents when I was younger. That's good to know about spacing for trees. I will be sure to space mine out 20 feet to give enough room.
Golden russet is one of our favorites. Good producer and disease resistance
Thanks for bringing us along on the walkabout Stefan, always inspiring
Keren bannget....
Grape vines can be too much to handle sometimes. They used to grow grapes near me and now they're climbing every tree here and killing the forest here because its blocking all sun light. Gotta be careful with grapes as im sure he knows.
With the sea berries, pick fruit before it ferments and you put it in a food processor with honey and it makes a high vitamin c tonic. You should freeze the mixture for when you feel a cold coming on
BEAUTIFULL VIDEO...I LOVED THE APPLES. I LOVE APPLES AND GRAPES.
You are a wealth of knowledge…wow!
Thank you for such a fantastic video.
Thank you.
thank you
Hi Stefan! Just discovered your channel and am devouring all your content. I've seen a lot of bird whisperer content, but was wondering if you also have any content on bats??? Thank you for all that you do!
No bats have become rare in our region. Very exciting to see one nowadays.
Id love to hear more about your grape varieties!???
And how to care for them!
Im planning on espalier somewhere around 30-40 old old heritage varieties of apple trees next year (at least the planting portion) probably against my perimeter fence.
Then in a different area planting 2 hickory, 2 pecan, & 2 chestnut in the northern most row. Then layering lots of peaches & plums, with some nectarines, asian pears, cherry, apricots, & persimmons. I have room for a stand of hazelnuts & pawpaws too off to the side as well.
My problem is to find somewhere that has quality trees, of varieties i want, that i can buy singles of, that aren't $50 a tree! The apples i already have a source for.
I should mention in a different part of my yard i will be growing rows of blackberry, raspberry (red, yellow & black), blueberry, & elderberry. And asparagus & strawberries will have a home under the espalier apple trees!
As well as putting in a market garden of annuals.
I also intend to put up a high tunnel & put figs inside, since im in a border zone i think i will more reliably not winter kill trees & get a regular crop.
& i can grow ginger & turmeric in there a little better as well.
And basketry willow along another fence line so i can learn to weave baskets to harvest everything ;)
I cant wait in 10 years my yard should be overflowing with food & bugs & birds!
Wonderful
How is your orchard growing? Are you in the states? Did you plant grapes?
Love how the hens work
Lol, those are some seriously fat hens.
@@Caperhere all the fruit and bugs you can eat lol
The red hens love this job lol
wonderful apple . I wish to be there one day
I sure wish I could buy a share and come pick. If I ever go to Eastern Canada for a vacation I will plan for a fall trip.
Hey Stefan, an acquaintance of mine, who is a medical doctor has 50 American Chestnut trees. He does a simple doc trick and has had great success against the chinese blight. He gets white outdoor paint house paint. He buys some paint mildewcide, which is an anti fungal anti mold chemical. It's common stuff in a paint store. He puts a couple bottles in the a gallon of paint. He then paints the bottom 6 feet of the Chestnut trunk, with this modified white house paint. He has had no blight whist doing this. Doc John's theory is blight is in the soil, but it does not bother tree roots. But in a heavy sideways rainstorm contaminated soil can bonce up on the new-tender bark and infect the cambia layer. However, after the tree is several years old the blight can't harm the bark. Might give it a try?
Good trick.
Plants figs in your dryer areas
Looks beautiful! Interesting about tree spacing. What's your current thinking about ideal spacing for semi-dwarf trees? Thanks.
Depends on soil, cultivar vigor and rootstock. When in doubt space them out, you won’t regret that but you will having them too tight.
Hey Stefan!! I was watching this with my wife and we had a question about the the plastic ground cover. Does the plastic compact the soil (we seem to have this with our cherry bushes) and does the plastic oxygen-starve the soil. We live in northern Alberta and have clay soil and we've added top soil/black earth. We added ground cover and our foliage on 4 cherry bushed went from lush to lame. Thank you for your humor and hard work!!
I think he uses plastic to help with water retention as well as a weed barrier. I think a permeable weed barrier or wood chips might work better for you. The ground covers might be taking away nutrients from your cherry bushes. Wishing you all the best in your garden!
We are in sand and have many holes in the mulch per tree so no lack of air. In clay you would NEED many holes per tree or shrub to allow good air flow. The only sure answer is to test a couple or three variations (with versus without plastic mulch) to get a good grasp before expanding.
@@evaczarnojanczyk1432 Thank you Eva!!
@@StefanSobkowiak Thank you Stefan!!
CRAZY ABUNDANCE!
The monoculture remains... no understory fruit bushes as competition and no veg... given the wider spacing, must be good space for garden scale variety but in the aisles style, a different balance to be had.
And sandy spaces - - with bee holes?
So what would be the best spacing for apples? Interesting watching you. My wife's mother was raised on a farm in Roxham. They raised pigs until her uncle retired a few years ago. Then he sold the farm without offering it to anyone in the family. Sorry to say, the apple orchard did well for years before we got married forty years ago. Love your videos. Wish we could make a trip up there to pick apples (we are South Carolina). Beautiful
Spacing depends on rootstock chosen, soil, and cultivar grafted. When you combine these add extra space.
Stefan, have you found a good resource for finding harvest dates of fruits and berry cultivars? I'm in the planning phase and it's tough to find good information.
Nurseries, collectors, government collections, other growers in your region are all good sources for ripening dates.
do you know about the old system of having high and low fruit trees in early stages of the orchard and then when the trees mature the lower ones (on dwarfing rootstock so they get old quicker) get cut away to give more space to the big ones? (also the seaberries are pretty much the ideal plants for your sandy soil)
Seaberry are great. Everything old becomes new again. Good system.
Sweet 🫐
Do the chickens fly over the fence by perching on the branches? Great video!
Yes they do, there are rebels in every flock.
I've seen plastic bags and plastic bottle containers hanging on the trees, what are they for and what's inside? thanks
Trapping for coddling moth (containers) and apple maggot flies bags. See the videos about them.
Does anyone know if there are any fruit trees that can handle being planted by a walnut? My neighbor has 2 Walnut trees right next to our border.
See my video: These trees kill trees, about walnut.
I love your videos have you ever thought about pawpaw trees?
Yes am on my 4th try to grow them, finally got some to stay alive, this time from seed.
@@StefanSobkowiak they need microrizal they have primitive roots theyre fairly corse roots. you can always graft a couple branches with known cultivars
I'm currently looking for 80 acres and looking to start a permaculture orchard and small farm mycrogreens and mushrooms
The real question is if we get a membership can we take scion of fruit trees?
It's funny how a butternut which would be in the same family as a black walnut has wild grape and apple seedings which have fruited but when I mistakenly but a health grape vine I bought its as if it froze
Pietro i can add a bud stick to the membership you have one or two weeks at most left to graft this year. Did I sell you the grape that died?
I would be curious to learn more about your member system. Is it like a CSA?
It’s like COSTCO, join pay your membership and then pick and buy what you need.
So what is the coppice cycle for the hazel?
Never tried it yet
What are the quart oil containers hanging in the trees being used for?
Codling moth traps, see the video from this spring.
@@StefanSobkowiak thanks
Have those trees had the fruit thinned?
No
what do you put in your fruit fly bottles.?
Water and molasses
@@StefanSobkowiak Thanks . I will put some up on the weekend
Are you concerned about the cedars providing cedar apple rust disease pressure on your orchard?
No it’s a different species. Juniperus is the host of cedar apple rust. That’s one of the problems with common names.
@@StefanSobkowiak That is so good to know, thank you!
Stefan, I have been loving your channel and have been putting a lot of effort into research for orchards and permaculture. I am currently in the process of purchasing a plot of land and over the next 5-10 years want to plant a permaculture - type orchard / food forest on a 5-10 acre portion of the land.
One question (I have thousands) that I am running into right now is where do you purchase your starting trees from? I am finding local suppliers that will sell 1-2ft trees for $35 each but I have heard mention of people purchasing new trees for $10 each in several TH-cam videos? Is this possible? I live in Manitoba and the local nursaries are charging 80-120 for a 6’ apple tree, obviously I wouldn’t be purchasing an entire orchard of well established trees, I would want to start from baby trees for obvious cost reasons, the plan would be to plant and irrigate for 5 ish years and then after year 5-6 start getting small crops, in 10 years hopefully have a well established orchard and property.
Any thoughts / insight are appreciated!
In my experience, a small tree will get bigger than a big tree in only a couple years. Just buy smaller trees and save money.
Yes you can buy for $10 or less sometimes when buying 1,000 or 10,000. Otherwise it is at retail prices. As Perry mentioned smaller is usually better as they suffer less transplant shock. Well proven by Dr. Carl Whitcomb that within 5 years the smaller tree surpasses the larger planted tree. Plus they should be less expensive.
I dream of having my own apple orchard. Those look so 😋. What do you feed them?
Love is all they get and a couple of sprays of whey
@@StefanSobkowiak whey? How often and how? What does the whey do?
@@sappir26 he has a video on it!
Yes check out the whey video from last spring.
Applesauce
I'll search through more of your videos & see if I can find what your recommending.
I'm still having major problems with my 5 types of grapes. Looks like black rot. The Berry clusters shrivel up & turn black. Seems to be a maggot inside each individual grape?
I've tried every orchard spray out there,,, once a week! I even found & used a very old bottle of pure NICOTENE. (Black Flag).
Nothing seems to help. ??
My 10 chestnut trees,,,,, If I don't religiously spray the old catkins 2 maybe 3 times BEFORE they start dropping, & like after each rain,,, with fruit tree orchard spray, , I will have millions of Chestnut weevils in every nut,,, sometimes 2-3 maggots in each nut.?
I have to rake up EVERY NUT asap after falling, & fertilize with 10-10-10 each spring,,, with a lawn grub killer added in, just to get a basket full of edible, viable nuts.
Then there's
My English soft shell walnuts! My neighbor & I have 6 large mature trees, (& I managed to start 4, 3-4 year old trees now.) 2 of the oldest trees use to produced 30 gallons of huge nuts per YEAR,,,, now, none of the trees produce ANY NUTS! WHY??????
What's going on? What can we try?
I had to cut down every one of my plum trees! 2 Italian, 2 yellow, & 3 purple. NO MORE PLUM BRANDY!! :
Sounds like time for an intervention. I would start with a stop of synthetic chemicals. You’re dealing with living plants and soils but your soil must be pretty dead with all the sprays you’ve used. Switch to compost and basalt rock dust for your soil, 2x per year, spring and fall. Repeat for a couple of years and then only in the fall should be fine. Your soil needs to transition, right now its lazy and not working for you. You should see the problems gradually disappear one by one, some in the first spring others gradually. I’ve been through it all. Life wants to win and help you as long as you stop killing it with poisons.
I would also check your drainage. A lot of diseases appear because your ground water level is above 4’. If you can dig and no water to 4’ its a good site for fruit.
OK. THANKS for the replies!
I checked out the 'basalt rock dust' and read many helpful reviews, BUT, $120 for a 50# bag!? (wallyworld) OMG,, the nut & fruit Orchards, grape arbors, gardens,,,, I would need a TON!?
What would be your suggested application rate, per fruit tree?
Do you have a video, on this subject?@@StefanSobkowiak
Are your trees dwarf trees? Could you use the same process with standard size trees
We have dwarf, semi and young standard trees. Yes applicable for all just adjust spacing.
@@StefanSobkowiak thank you. I truly enjoy your videos they're very helpful
hi i live in toronto can i come and buy some i belive your farm is in qubec. thanks to let us know.
I would suggest you find a supply more local, look up organic orchards in your region.
Can't find whey. How would you use milk? 3 parts water 1 part milk? Or just 100% milk?
You can dilute but it must be raw milk, not pasteurized. It’s the bacteria that do the work.
@@StefanSobkowiak thank you i can't find raw in the states. I might just add some yogurt or keifer to it. Not sure what to think
@@travissmith-wz5nc I've heard there are some US States where selling raw milk is against the law, but giving it away isn't. Perhaps you could look into that?
Can i have a permafarm anywhere?
Yes, wherever plants can grow.
He put that whole thing in his mouth!
if you ever wanted to plant something around the walnuts, pawpaws dont care at all
Same vidéo in french?
Peux--être l'an prochain.
Stefan, je n'ai pas compris l'utilité de la bâche plastique sous les fruitiers (my english is not very well), est ce pour limiter les adventices lors de la croissance des arbres ? Est ce que ça a un intérêt par rapport aux poules qui grattent ? Merci
That's a nice problem to have.