One is connected to the other... MM for T8 tanks is horrible because for every regular T8 tank played there are about 1-2 premium T8 tanks played. Or is other words: The MM has to handle about 200%-300% the amount of T8 tanks it should handle... There simply are *too many* T8 tanks in the queue für the MM to work properly... this is not even a problem with the template MM - even though this does amplify the problem even more. The underlying cause however is this massive amount of T8 tanks because credit grinding is sadly neccessary for most players and all focused in one single battle tier... As the template MM does focus on 3-5-7 and 5-10 over mono-tiered battles it has to put all those T8 tanks somewhere... and behold, there is a lot of space in T9 and T10 battles, but only 3 or 5 slots per battle where a T8 tank would be toptier... There simply *are not* enough T6 and T7 tanks for T8 to be toptier as much as they should be in order to be "balanced", while the T8-only battles are not prefered by the MM... Back when the Frontline-Mode was a thing MM for T8 tanks was actually quite nice even in regular matches because a lot of T8 tanks did no longer play regular matches but frontline instead, "reliefing" the MM from that unproportional amont of T8 tanks... and only Serb knows why they deleted that mode. It was realy nice and did even help fixing the MM a little bit...
If it was a HT or a med. Sure, then I would get that. But it's a tier 8 TD... something a majority of the RU tank players have asked for, as it's the first one.
oh well...50TP has a 130mm and 560 dmg but the polish tanks have that "thing" to have more alpha than others with the same caliber...actually you could say the same about the russians
@@ciderhat2760 am comparing a tier (10) heavy with a tier (8) TD both will same caliber gun two tier difference and the tier 8 has 30 more damage then a tier 10
fives 1878 powercreep is a huge problem in WoT, not only the russian vehicles, the SuperConq was and is a Hulldown beast with extreme Dpm (i don‘t even mention this fuckbox called Type 5), at the same time Tanks like the T110E5, Maus, E100 etc. were nerfed or in case of the E100 didn‘t get the Buff they need to stay competetive in the current Meta
WG: "Whaaaaat???????? A German Tank is the most popular Tank in the game???? That's not aloud!!!! Let's make a russian version of this tank in much, much, much better!!!!!" And the players are still running away.
It's not much better at all. Got better camo and more alpha damage but everything else pretty much is worse. From what I can see the scorpion g is the better tank of the two
@@JaquesTheSHARK camo is key if your playing a TD with no amour so that is huge. The only real advantage the Skorpion has is accuracy. Andthat doesnt matter because you can just load prem and aim at the center of the enemy
@@performa9523 accuracy, full turret rotation, rate of fire. Although with items an crew you can the Russian accuracy better, you cqn with the skorpion aswell
I dont rly think that it is better than the scorpion G. The not fully turnable turret and the bad accuracy kinda worsens the dpm of this tank in comparison to the Scorpion G. Yeah it has more alpha and better camo, but that doesn't matter so much if u can't hit the enemys.
I'm so tired of WG introducing bs soviet tanks that are better than their same tier counterparts....and this just proves that it isn't just with regular free-to-play tanks, they're willing to do it with premiums as well
@@RezzLeiden Camorating? Alpha Damage? Dispersion on the Move? This Tank is clearly the answer of the Scorpion beeing the most used Tier 8 Premium TD in the Game, so they created a Soviedt Version of it thats slightly better...
@@RezzLeiden It's about as fast as the Scorpion and has similar pen-values. What the REAL problem is: this piece of crap tank has better camo value. So If it's Scorpion vs. SU-130PM, the SU will see the Scorpion WAY earlier and will win the engagement 9 times out of 10. This SU has about 50% better camo-value than the already hated E-25 but compared to the E-25 it does not have a little pea-shooter it's got a monster gun. RIP WoT.
@Despot if you're being serious then you're completely wrong. There's a reason Tiger and Panther tanks were feared by Russian and American troops. They couldn't kill them unless they sent around 6-10 tanks. That's not even counting a Tiger or Panther platoon.
Oh look, another Russian tank, that's just a copy of a tank from another nation, just ... better. Don't get me wrong, it seems balanced in most concerns, but its camo and 0.3 dispersion together with the Stalin guidance system makes it an obvious better Skorpion.
Huuray!!! Finally a Soviet premium ... we needed this sooo badly! I hope they`ll bring out a few more for Xmas! .... also, I hope they`ll buff the alpha on this gun to 750...
In order to get this tank by commitment, they are asking a player, averaging 500 exp per game and with each game lasting an average of 8 minutes, to play 6.75 hours of WOT each day, and a total of 28% of the ten days playing the game, just to unlock the tier 8 premium. How is that a realistic goal for anyone who leaves their house each day?
WGs new logic. You play the mission, get maybe 50% discount and buy a fucking expensive bundle premium or lets say overprices premium, so no one can complain cuz you get discounts. I cant remember exactly but procetto was 60$/€? So i got 70% and still didnt want this shit, i will never buy something from WOT-wg anymore xD. In WOWs you can still get premium ships for free like the Tier 8 DD cossack (RN Event), was kinda easy. But not this shitty thing....after the nice T34-85m&T25 Pilot Missions, they decided to make this fucking move with the new Stage1-10 Marathon...its fucking anoying. This time you will need idk 230k exp in 10 days! Yeah have fun when you re a normal person with an average-good wn8. I count the elite missions, and maybe I can finish 2-4 of them but that are the low ones, after stage 7...you will need realy much exp and its BASE exp. No marathon for me again^^
Exactly, too much time investment there. Might as well go cut someone's lawns or paint somebody's house during the weekend n use the cash to buy it instead :X
Exactly. Another reason I gave up on WoT a long time ago. In order to get any of the special shiny toys, you basically had to put your life on hold for a week or more.
Lol that’s exactly what it is. They are going to regret that decision. We all know Wargaming doesn’t like free stuff. Do when it turns out all of us put our precious time in, they will make another premium tank, even better. It’s literally an endless cycle for where the game is headed
Hey QB i hope u read this. Actually Skorpion G is better at shooting on the move than SU-130PM cuz 29 x 1,25 = 36 VS 34 x 1,21 = 41, that is how u calculate accuracy applied to the tank's movement
One thing I do like about tanks like the Skorpion G and now the SU-130PM is that there are a lot more opportunities to use HE as a normal tank. Adds some variety in how you use shells. Now if they would just fix premium ammo to be higher pen but lower alpha than standard like it is in Blitz, I think the ammo types would be in a solid place.
They should've just sold the KV-4 KTTS or ISU-130 (both of which have been sitting around in the game files forever now) instead of making a Soviet Skorpion.
Could be, but with a limited 155 degree turret traverse. I suspect it will be worse in some aspects vs the Skorp as it will lose the camo net often to turn the gun. And die just as fast when spotted. And even faster when flanked.
Russia did have some good tanks back in the day(crew comfort is lacking). but everyone forgets that russia made some remarkable machines of war and when implemented into a game you then dont need to worry about crew comfort and parts breaking from poor maintenance
@@RezzLeiden for a TD that's kinda all you need. It's penetration is pretty good too. All people would need to do is throw a camo net, binoculars and enhanced gunlay drive to cut the reload down to be broken and jack the camo rating and view range up through the damn roof. Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous and not needed in WoT.
@@violet_skrs yes Russia did. But so did Germany. The Tiger, Panther, JPANTHER, Jagdtiger and even two mice (Maus') and that's not including the massive rail gun they used.
Hi quickybaby you are the best I’ve watched you for 2 years now thank you for uploading and making me so exited to get home from school and jump on wot
Just noticed the helicopter at 11:00, not 100% sure if it is a Mi-24 but that would be surprising as it was introduced in 1972 and therefore not quite historical in the WoT era...
Thanks Quickybaby! You mention to stay tuned for more info regarding this Marathon event, but any clue on when WG is sharing this info? You are my source for information lol, other than what gets posted on the WorldOfTanks website. Awesome vid. Keep them coming!
Every community has whiners. League, OW, dota. No one gives shit of your whining. Let me guess, you are 300 wn8 bot player who snipes in is3 and blames team for losing.
@@kristjanbirnbaum2283 I am a superunicum and I stopped playing this shit game over half a year ago ... best decision I ever made, fuck WG, these whores of WG only want your money, we can go fuck ourselves according to them.
Hey QB how u doing, i havent watched ur vids in a long time. But im getting back into wot and im starting to watch ur vids again. Love the vids and keep up the good work
QB plays ONE game in the Su-130PM and gets a mastery badge, setting the bar so high that no one else can get one. :P Oh Quickybaby, don't ever change . . .
Most likely they are going to introduce a turreted Soviet TD line next year, with this premium being a crew trainer for it. It'll presumably include stuff like the SU-100P (Object 105), SU-152P (Object 116), and SU-152 Taran (Object 120), which unlike SU-130PM were actually real tanks.
I have been playing the old borsig for a while , I love the 128 cm , so I bought the scorpion , and I wish i didn't . The su 130 is every thing the scorpion isn't . My preferred game style is to give close big gun support to the teams mediums , using my cammo to spot for my team using improved optics . I find the dispersion blooms less when rotating the turret . so it's a lot kinder when switching targets , and it snap shots like a boss :)
Why 0? BECAUSE ITS RUSSIAN. The most overpowered thing about the tank is that you don’t need the 2 key. Lol that’s why it’s going to be a better premium tank
"Everything that hits this tank will overmatch it" I am going to remember that every time side on FV4005 or Grille eats my AP shot in the tracks with no damage.
Its actually worse. I'd rather be in a Skorpion G than this. Firstly the Skorpion G is more accurate, has a 360 turret and while its camo rating isn't great its enough for you to sit in a bush and do what you need to do as a paper armor TD. This thing....yeah....it has a better alpha gun, has better camo and marginally better mobility but really?....The Skorpion G is a better TD overall.
Frank Benner you have a EXTREMELY AWFUL e25 crew if you only have 25% while stationary lol my current set up on my e25 has 70% camo this SU can’t even come close to that.
The Dorchaidhe AMX 49 anyone? How about the panzer 2J? Even if the 2J is a joke tier 3 it’s still another premium of a different nation. Chrysler was also pretty bad but no one talked about that because of its bad gun and garbage LFP.
Was this released already?? I’ve already came across one on the asia server and the event doesn’t even start till atleast 12 more hours. I don’t know if the guy is a community contributor or not, or was the tank rented to him from by WG HK, or the tank has already been sold back then.
Must have hurt the Russian community very much for a non-Russian tank being the most well liked. Of COURSE this piece of crap tank will be popular for all the "I'll kill you and you don't even see me" snipers in the game. They will all buy it. It's fast and got about 50% BETTER camo-rating than the well-hated E-25. Wargaming keeps stacking up reasons NOT to play their friggin game. Like we need MORE invisible campers... This thing will be bad enought in tier X and IX games. But think about those poor bastards in tier VIII, VII and VI. They'll never see what's killing them. Guess we'll need massive arty-buffs to counter all the camping. Like multiple projectiles hitting several bushes at once, since you don't have visible targets at all any more (because everybody dies before getting close to those stupid things)
And the power creeps on... Having twice the camo of the Scorp completely negates any downsides they might have built in as you can get closer, or fire more shells with impunity from afar.
Yay another russian paper tank that didn't exist in blueprints, just wg love for russian bias Edit : Historians down below told me that the hull existed but the gun is unhistorical. WG's 130mm Magic Wand.
the su-100p/pm or object 105, this was a scout tank, not a td, ofcourse you guys get a upgraded gun but the tank itself is even in War Thunder you guys just late to the party.
Technically they just took the SU-100PM which existed and is at display in Kubinka and gave it a new, although unhistorical gun. Therefore your comment is wrong. If you were to say that this tank is a fake based on a real you would be correct. Also, how a paper tank woudnt exist in blueprints? Blueprints ARE the paper. Even if you said "fantasy tank" you would still be wrong. Therefore, your comment is ludicrously invalid and shows your lack of tank history comprehension.
Grille LXIX this existed (not quite in this form). Most tanks in the Russian tech tree were manufactured or had prototypes made of it with plenty more to add into the game. The scale at which the USSR invested into tank production and research was extremely high so they put out an extremely high number of blueprints and prototypes
@@epiccamper Then why not add the "historical gun" attached to the Su 130pm instead of a 130mm wand? Becoz wg makes german tech tree weaker than russian techtree in ALMOST ALL ASPECTS.
This community.. For once they actually make a useful addition to the game, a crew trainer for a popular tech tree. They don't make it game breaking, it's pretty much balanced against the Skorpion, yet all I see is complaints
if the su130pm was against the scorpion it would be fair. the problem is it isn't. read what people put in the comments its not complaints its the likelihood of overbalancing teams and they cannot get this right already.
he will get it then say look I am free to play player so you can see its all good and shiny hahhaah. Reasons. Free to play is no prem tanks no prem time nothing and test the ammount of fun/and abillity to play the highest tier tank compared to others cuz you grinded the shit out of it. And the answer it is not worth it at all.
@@mhmm29 Introducing you to free to play player. a guy that doesnt spend the money on game and has a life. So there is huge posibillity he wont be able to grind the tank out. I know for myself I was a free to play player playing around 10 games a day. 10 games and it was my main game to play so yea. But a free to play player without a life and that sits infront of PC playing wot all day yea he can grind it out. Or he lives by streaming the game. But yea free to play player is a guy that doesnt spend money on game that is true
@@rtwiceorb770 I was about to say... I'm a f2p player and I have collected a slew of premium tanks for free over the years ranging from tier 2 to tier 7. The only issue I really run into is the hesitation inherent with deciding when to use premium ammo as I can't afford to just be slinging gold all day.
We really did not have soviet premium tanks already =P You said one of the critical things to that td, which I did not see one of earlier reviews, which I did watch: it has a limited turret rotation. Its very big downside to that, ofc people gonna get these lot free from mission now. But not real contest against Scorpion G, even with that OP camo against it. S G wins. Nice review, accurate and you did this with normally achievable crew too. Thnx :)
Hey QB u mentioned Type 59. This reminds me of the modified version QN-506 which showed up at CIAAE 2018. (China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition)
I have the scorpion G and I love it. I don't spam the gold rounds you don't need it. It helps that I play the tank more like a medium then a real sniper tank. I'm always up close and personal in my scorpion G
Tank destroyers are basically a new arty. With the crazy good camo they get that allow them to shoot without getting spotted making agressive plays in your heavies or mediums becomes suicidal. Game cries for a rework of spotting mechanic.
Depends if you count the VK 72 as a prem or not, if you do then it has been the highest alpha premium, but if you think about it the KV-2R is a prem with 700 alpha, so no it doesnt have the highest alpha on a prem
I know i may get some flack for this, but I think this was sorta kinda needed, I mean, there is no t8 soviet tank destroyer. However, I would like to see mm fixes of course, but really if they are going to do more premiums, I think the we need a t8 Czechoslovakian medium premium tank before getting every type of t8 premium tank for soviet lines. We could also use a American t8 td as well, and s couple of other lines that have been neglected like British t8 prem tds. Just my 2 cents, thanks QB for a honest review of the tank!
Hi Will, i have a question. At the moment i have the Skorpion G for a while and it s worth it every penny. Does it worth to buy Su 130 pm? At the marathon i have reduce it to 50 % and i dont know what to do.
Looks fun. My first top tier tank was the Obj 704 (back when TD's only went to tier 9), so it's nice to see a tier 8 premium Soviet TD. However, I'm not all that excited to see it in a mission marathon. I'm not looking forward to seeing so many of them on the field.
So? How long would it take me to get this thing? (I completly suck at the game) I really want the scorpion but I guess this is amazing aswell. Please give me tips
The reason that the Skorpion G only has a 50% win ratio is because there's almost always 1 on both teams, so it averages to 50%. It's a hair over the 49% true-er average (from draws) because occasionally one team has two when the other only has one. Facts sourced straight from my rear end.
Rocked through 3 levels in one quick session which is good rather than doing it day by day. But that premium ammo is ringing alarm bells, going to be some serious gold slingers ince this hits the games
Alright QB you have a mission should you choose to accept. There is a tank called the PanterA (duh) there is also a band by the same name (also duh). So much like the Primo Victoria itd be fitting to have the crew be the members of the band (or at least allow the name change). Especially in the sense that 2 of the members (who were brothers) have passed away. You may remember in Dec of 2004 a guitarist was shot and killed in a club in Columbus Ohio. It was pretty big news nationally but dont know about international. Well that guitarist is Dimebag Darrell Abbott (Guitarist of PanterA and Damageplan). His brother Vinnie Paul Abbott (Drummer PanterA, Damageplan ands Hellyeah!) just passed away this summer from an enlarged heart. Clearly I dont expect much but if you could just run the idea by the WG staff who knows maybe we can memorialize the fallen Brothers in this game (i suspect at least a few people would start playing just to get a tank with the members of PanterA as crew members) Just a thought. Keep kickin ass
Isn’t Box-tank the hardest hitting premium? Especially with its premium rounds. Also, what are your thoughts on those premium rounds? Higher damage with lower penetration
Su-130PM ... " PM " Stands for " Please Money " xD
That was good :) 😂 🤣
Pay money would of been better 😂
It is “PAY ME”
It's a marathon vehicle..
Premium Monster
CoolStoryBob, WG can pull off 3 tier 8 premium tank marathons in a year, but cant fix tier 8 mm for those who grind standard tier 8s...
One is connected to the other...
MM for T8 tanks is horrible because for every regular T8 tank played there are about 1-2 premium T8 tanks played. Or is other words: The MM has to handle about 200%-300% the amount of T8 tanks it should handle... There simply are *too many* T8 tanks in the queue für the MM to work properly... this is not even a problem with the template MM - even though this does amplify the problem even more. The underlying cause however is this massive amount of T8 tanks because credit grinding is sadly neccessary for most players and all focused in one single battle tier...
As the template MM does focus on 3-5-7 and 5-10 over mono-tiered battles it has to put all those T8 tanks somewhere... and behold, there is a lot of space in T9 and T10 battles, but only 3 or 5 slots per battle where a T8 tank would be toptier... There simply *are not* enough T6 and T7 tanks for T8 to be toptier as much as they should be in order to be "balanced", while the T8-only battles are not prefered by the MM...
Back when the Frontline-Mode was a thing MM for T8 tanks was actually quite nice even in regular matches because a lot of T8 tanks did no longer play regular matches but frontline instead, "reliefing" the MM from that unproportional amont of T8 tanks... and only Serb knows why they deleted that mode. It was realy nice and did even help fixing the MM a little bit...
@@Xelianow Are you German? I am just wondering because you wrote "für" instead of "for" 😂
Those damn reflexes while typing... -__- Yea...
We are getting 98% +1/-1 mm in asia server right now, it is freaking amazing. Simple fix
@@GlaciaDay same asian server is finally fixed, I rarely see t10 tanks in t8 tanks now
Oh look, another premium soviet tank, that's what we all wanted and asked for for ages, thanks wargaming!
It's actually the first tier 8 premium TD, so I'm believe it or not quite happy with it.
If it was a HT or a med. Sure, then I would get that. But it's a tier 8 TD... something a majority of the RU tank players have asked for, as it's the first one.
_Hahahahahaha. Yes, what we've always needed and wanted._
@Ethan Ansell pretty much all tier 8 tds have >300mm of prem pen tho
Yup wargaming is farming like crazy this game...
I can’t wait for the new free to play series to continue!!
No one can wait :)
Me too.
me too I'm so glad he start that free to play series tho
I hope he doesn't abandon it like his #tankbetter series.
i wonder if he will earn the SU-130 PM on both accounts.
The camo rating is game changing. It is easily the hardest part to deal with in a scorpion g
*Skorpion G
Amadis Demitrius skorpion g is better anyway
tier 8 prem with 130mm gun as 520 alpha
tier 10 is7 has 130mm...
490 alpha
WG at apex
Well, obviously WG just has to buff all the Soviet 130mm guns to 520 alpha and the problem will be solved.
carface 03 this comment is idiotic you cannot compare a heavily armored tier 10 vs a paper tier 8 TANK DESTROYER it’s literally in the fkin name
oh well...50TP has a 130mm and 560 dmg but the polish tanks have that "thing" to have more alpha than others with the same caliber...actually you could say the same about the russians
carface 03 you are comparing a td with a heavy
@@ciderhat2760 am comparing a tier (10) heavy
with a tier (8) TD
both will same caliber gun
two tier difference
and the tier 8 has 30 more damage then a tier 10
The American tech tree could use some love right about now.
The German tech tree could
all except soviet
Nököhammas hell yeah
every new tank is stronger than the olds that is a HUGE problem
fives 1878 powercreep is a huge problem in WoT, not only the russian vehicles, the SuperConq was and is a Hulldown beast with extreme Dpm (i don‘t even mention this fuckbox called Type 5), at the same time Tanks like the T110E5, Maus, E100 etc. were nerfed or in case of the E100 didn‘t get the Buff they need to stay competetive in the current Meta
WG: "Whaaaaat???????? A German Tank is the most popular Tank in the game???? That's not aloud!!!! Let's make a russian version of this tank in much, much, much better!!!!!"
And the players are still running away.
It's not much better at all. Got better camo and more alpha damage but everything else pretty much is worse. From what I can see the scorpion g is the better tank of the two
@@JaquesTheSHARK camo is key if your playing a TD with no amour so that is huge. The only real advantage the Skorpion has is accuracy. Andthat doesnt matter because you can just load prem and aim at the center of the enemy
@@JaquesTheSHARK Easier to hide, faster moving, harder hitting... what exactly makes the Skorpion better than this Soviet pipe dream?
@@performa9523 accuracy, full turret rotation, rate of fire. Although with items an crew you can the Russian accuracy better, you cqn with the skorpion aswell
I dont rly think that it is better than the scorpion G. The not fully turnable turret and the bad accuracy kinda worsens the dpm of this tank in comparison to the Scorpion G. Yeah it has more alpha and better camo, but that doesn't matter so much if u can't hit the enemys.
I'm so tired of WG introducing bs soviet tanks that are better than their same tier counterparts....and this just proves that it isn't just with regular free-to-play tanks, they're willing to do it with premiums as well
How exactly is this better than the Skorpion G?
@@RezzLeiden I think he's referring to non premium td's. But this is not the same kind of tank : no armor, big gun arc.
@@RezzLeiden Camorating? Alpha Damage? Dispersion on the Move?
This Tank is clearly the answer of the Scorpion beeing the most used Tier 8 Premium TD in the Game, so they created a Soviedt Version of it thats slightly better...
@@RezzLeiden It's about as fast as the Scorpion and has similar pen-values. What the REAL problem is: this piece of crap tank has better camo value. So If it's Scorpion vs. SU-130PM, the SU will see the Scorpion WAY earlier and will win the engagement 9 times out of 10. This SU has about 50% better camo-value than the already hated E-25 but compared to the E-25 it does not have a little pea-shooter it's got a monster gun. RIP WoT.
@Despot if you're being serious then you're completely wrong. There's a reason Tiger and Panther tanks were feared by Russian and American troops. They couldn't kill them unless they sent around 6-10 tanks. That's not even counting a Tiger or Panther platoon.
And Czechoslovakian tree STILL doesn´t have a regular tier 8 premium tank... yeah, continuie by this way WG...
Well they can not make up the tank
If skill4ltu is right, it should be next year. :)
@@amelb6533 No never, they totally can't make up tanks at all. 59 Patton and the Chinese Tds totally existed IRL.
Chun Kee How they use real tanks, prototypes and things that didn’t Get further than the drawing table
Russia didnt have a regular tier 8 premium TD, since the start of WoT but okay
Gonna play some kv2 when these things start appearing
Just make sure you have a scout spotting him for you.. if not you're the one who's dead. ;)
Skorviet G
Oh look, another Russian tank, that's just a copy of a tank from another nation, just ... better.
Don't get me wrong, it seems balanced in most concerns, but its camo and 0.3 dispersion together with the Stalin guidance system makes it an obvious better Skorpion.
.35. Also the Alpha damage and camo are the only things this tank has the 1 up against the Skorpion G.
And a turret that can't do a full circle is a big downside.
@@Morbacounet less accurate, has HEAT as gold ammo.....
I dont think its better then Skorpion. Fully rotatable turret and better accuracy combined with DPM is sonething i ll chose anytime
HEAT is weak against spaced armor tough, APCR is not
Huuray!!! Finally a Soviet premium ... we needed this sooo badly! I hope they`ll bring out a few more for Xmas! .... also, I hope they`ll buff the alpha on this gun to 750...
Pls buff. We need impenetrable turret to make it truly soviet
I love the SU 130PM. The turret actually makes it more fun
In order to get this tank by commitment, they are asking a player, averaging 500 exp per game and with each game lasting an average of 8 minutes, to play 6.75 hours of WOT each day, and a total of 28% of the ten days playing the game, just to unlock the tier 8 premium. How is that a realistic goal for anyone who leaves their house each day?
WGs new logic. You play the mission, get maybe 50% discount and buy a fucking expensive bundle premium or lets say overprices premium, so no one can complain cuz you get discounts. I cant remember exactly but procetto was 60$/€? So i got 70% and still didnt want this shit, i will never buy something from WOT-wg anymore xD. In WOWs you can still get premium ships for free like the Tier 8 DD cossack (RN Event), was kinda easy. But not this shitty thing....after the nice T34-85m&T25 Pilot Missions, they decided to make this fucking move with the new Stage1-10 Marathon...its fucking anoying. This time you will need idk 230k exp in 10 days! Yeah have fun when you re a normal person with an average-good wn8. I count the elite missions, and maybe I can finish 2-4 of them but that are the low ones, after stage 7...you will need realy much exp and its BASE exp. No marathon for me again^^
But like... Discounts
Exactly, too much time investment there. Might as well go cut someone's lawns or paint somebody's house during the weekend n use the cash to buy it instead :X
@@wellstang +1
Exactly. Another reason I gave up on WoT a long time ago. In order to get any of the special shiny toys, you basically had to put your life on hold for a week or more.
Nice tank but waaaht a russian tank without armor ?? How is this balanced??
Mmmagic! Snort!
It's a fake Russian. Manufactured in China😅
ISU 152 dont have armot too but can punch harder:)
@mark houghton yeeh absorbs heat from jgpze100 xD
You don't need armor if no one sees you... So you will camp hard in this thing.
Guess we'll need better arty to counter all the camping...
Lol that’s exactly what it is. They are going to regret that decision. We all know Wargaming doesn’t like free stuff. Do when it turns out all of us put our precious time in, they will make another premium tank, even better. It’s literally an endless cycle for where the game is headed
Oh look! Quickybaby being a good boy and using the zebra crossing at 10:29
great.. more premium tanks. exactly what this game needs
Hey QB i hope u read this. Actually Skorpion G is better at shooting on the move than SU-130PM cuz 29 x 1,25 = 36 VS 34 x 1,21 = 41, that is how u calculate accuracy applied to the tank's movement
I DON'T CARE
I WANT T-50-2 REVIEW
This, no idea how to play that thing xd
Play it like any other tier 6 light tank. But at the moment the MM is completely flooded, so it wouldn't work anyway :o
i played 3 rounds with its actually pretty weak its nothing special anymore its just another tier 6 russian light tank
@@venuslippe9132 I'd say it's the second best tier 6 light tank. Right after the Type 64 XD But its mobile and has pretty good DPM
and pen for tier
the main reason i dont really like it bc i dont really play light tanks so for people that like light tanks its probs a good tank
One thing I do like about tanks like the Skorpion G and now the SU-130PM is that there are a lot more opportunities to use HE as a normal tank. Adds some variety in how you use shells.
Now if they would just fix premium ammo to be higher pen but lower alpha than standard like it is in Blitz, I think the ammo types would be in a solid place.
They should've just sold the KV-4 KTTS or ISU-130 (both of which have been sitting around in the game files forever now) instead of making a Soviet Skorpion.
ISU 130 is only for Devs or tester i think
RedXlV it's really not skorpion g at all. More like t8 grille or rhm
@@port8903 i have 3k games in the isu 130 ;)
"...a bit like what the Type 59 used to be; but enough to be able to *rush in* to position..." I see what you did there ;)
i hate wargaming for always trying to make the best tanks for russia
How is this better than the Skorpion G? You are really only paying attention to its camo rating and its alpha aren't you?
Could be, but with a limited 155 degree turret traverse. I suspect it will be worse in some aspects vs the Skorp as it will lose the camo net often to turn the gun. And die just as fast when spotted. And even faster when flanked.
Russia did have some good tanks back in the day(crew comfort is lacking). but everyone forgets that russia made some remarkable machines of war and when implemented into a game you then dont need to worry about crew comfort and parts breaking from poor maintenance
@@RezzLeiden for a TD that's kinda all you need. It's penetration is pretty good too. All people would need to do is throw a camo net, binoculars and enhanced gunlay drive to cut the reload down to be broken and jack the camo rating and view range up through the damn roof. Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous and not needed in WoT.
@@violet_skrs yes Russia did. But so did Germany. The Tiger, Panther, JPANTHER, Jagdtiger and even two mice (Maus') and that's not including the massive rail gun they used.
Hi quickybaby you are the best I’ve watched you for 2 years now thank you for uploading and making me so exited to get home from school and jump on wot
is quickybaby going to grind this tank on his f2p account
Thats a good idea! :)
thats a good joke 😂
quickbaby is smart, he aint grinding 20 hours per day
Yeah, without premium time. Gonna be a hoot.
Loving the 1440p resolution. More please!
We should just stop playing Wot. Wargaming doesn't care about us
Way ahead of you. Lost interest when frontlines was removed. That game mode was the most fun ive had in world of tanks.
Nope they care about us, look at the upcoming free rewards
@@ry0usama511 no those free rewards are just to keep people enticed to spend money and continue to ignore crap like this tank.
@@ry0usama511 you are a shill, or just very stupid.
@@thedorchaidhe6964 it's a MARATHON tank that you can get for free, ya muppet.
Just noticed the helicopter at 11:00, not 100% sure if it is a Mi-24 but that would be surprising as it was introduced in 1972 and therefore not quite historical in the WoT era...
Dont worry QB, arty will prevent players from camping! LOL
Thanks Quickybaby! You mention to stay tuned for more info regarding this Marathon event, but any clue on when WG is sharing this info? You are my source for information lol, other than what gets posted on the WorldOfTanks website. Awesome vid. Keep them coming!
Info about Winter Challenge is in the garage now: i.imgur.com/iDG4fdJ.jpgw
How's the World of Tanks reboot going?
seeing QB missed like 2 shot just now and then at that time he tried to shot that TD at
12:00
i said " Stalin guides you"
and the shot connected lol
3 months since I uninstalled and boy it feels great........
Good cause no one gives a shit ... now that feels great .....
@@jimmybean6090 hahaha another example of the WoT community......sorry I hurt your feelings son
Every community has whiners. League, OW, dota. No one gives shit of your whining. Let me guess, you are 300 wn8 bot player who snipes in is3 and blames team for losing.
I uninstalled three years ago. Still watch one of these vids now and then to see how far power creep has gone. The game is nearly unrecognizable now.
@@kristjanbirnbaum2283 I am a superunicum and I stopped playing this shit game over half a year ago ... best decision I ever made, fuck WG, these whores of WG only want your money, we can go fuck ourselves according to them.
Hey QB how u doing, i havent watched ur vids in a long time. But im getting back into wot and im starting to watch ur vids again. Love the vids and keep up the good work
"A pot on a pillar" - QB 2018
"You complete utter moron" -QB, 2018 about arty
QB plays ONE game in the Su-130PM and gets a mastery badge, setting the bar so high that no one else can get one. :P Oh Quickybaby, don't ever change . . .
why is this tank a premium why they cant build a new line -.-
because $$$$$
Most likely they are going to introduce a turreted Soviet TD line next year, with this premium being a crew trainer for it. It'll presumably include stuff like the SU-100P (Object 105), SU-152P (Object 116), and SU-152 Taran (Object 120), which unlike SU-130PM were actually real tanks.
RedXlV isn‘t there even a Tier X Russians TD with turret in the Game files?
There are already two sets of soviet tds lol
There is no room, you'd need a second monitor...
I have been playing the old borsig for a while , I love the 128 cm , so I bought the scorpion , and I wish i didn't . The su 130 is every thing the scorpion isn't . My preferred game style is to give close big gun support to the teams mediums , using my cammo to spot for my team using improved optics . I find the dispersion blooms less when rotating the turret . so it's a lot kinder when switching targets , and it snap shots like a boss :)
And how many times will he dab the 2 key...lets all count.
0
I counted 0
@Flynte Well,that backfired.
Why 0? BECAUSE ITS RUSSIAN. The most overpowered thing about the tank is that you don’t need the 2 key. Lol that’s why it’s going to be a better premium tank
No 2 key means more profit
"Everything that hits this tank will overmatch it" I am going to remember that every time side on FV4005 or Grille eats my AP shot in the tracks with no damage.
well what a surprise the Russian Prem tier 8 TD is marginally better than the German tier 8, Russian bias anyone?
Its actually worse.
I'd rather be in a Skorpion G than this. Firstly the Skorpion G is more accurate, has a 360 turret and while its camo rating isn't great its enough for you to sit in a bush and do what you need to do as a paper armor TD. This thing....yeah....it has a better alpha gun, has better camo and marginally better mobility but really?....The Skorpion G is a better TD overall.
@@RezzLeiden it has worse power/weight, just better traverse speed.
No one will be able to spot the fucking thing. The E-25 has 25% camo while stationary, this thing has almost 40%. So MARGINALLY better my ass.
Frank Benner you have a EXTREMELY AWFUL e25 crew if you only have 25% while stationary lol my current set up on my e25 has 70% camo this SU can’t even come close to that.
The Dorchaidhe AMX 49 anyone? How about the panzer 2J? Even if the 2J is a joke tier 3 it’s still another premium of a different nation. Chrysler was also pretty bad but no one talked about that because of its bad gun and garbage LFP.
I kind like that now is so many OP tanks in game. That makes playing more challenging when you know, that ads are against you.
Wargaming:We want -money- a good player experience!
so true!!!!! 😂😂😂
Was this released already?? I’ve already came across one on the asia server and the event doesn’t even start till atleast 12 more hours. I don’t know if the guy is a community contributor or not, or was the tank rented to him from by WG HK, or the tank has already been sold back then.
Must have hurt the Russian community very much for a non-Russian tank being the most well liked. Of COURSE this piece of crap tank will be popular for all the "I'll kill you and you don't even see me" snipers in the game. They will all buy it. It's fast and got about 50% BETTER camo-rating than the well-hated E-25. Wargaming keeps stacking up reasons NOT to play their friggin game. Like we need MORE invisible campers...
This thing will be bad enought in tier X and IX games. But think about those poor bastards in tier VIII, VII and VI. They'll never see what's killing them.
Guess we'll need massive arty-buffs to counter all the camping. Like multiple projectiles hitting several bushes at once, since you don't have visible targets at all any more (because everybody dies before getting close to those stupid things)
arty buffs.. you must not have played tanks in a while if that's your suggestion lol. And wg already has a solution for camping: wheeled vehicles
Old: "always a skorpion"
New :"Always an SU130PM"
*good heavens.... Just look at the time*
*1:30 pm*
Lol good one
And the power creeps on... Having twice the camo of the Scorp completely negates any downsides they might have built in as you can get closer, or fire more shells with impunity from afar.
Yay another russian paper tank that didn't exist in blueprints, just wg love for russian bias
Edit : Historians down below told me that the hull existed but the gun is unhistorical. WG's 130mm Magic Wand.
It's Russian company who love Russian and they never buff German Tech tree ..
the su-100p/pm or object 105, this was a scout tank, not a td, ofcourse you guys get a upgraded gun but the tank itself is even in War Thunder you guys just late to the party.
Technically they just took the SU-100PM which existed and is at display in Kubinka and gave it a new, although unhistorical gun. Therefore your comment is wrong. If you were to say that this tank is a fake based on a real you would be correct. Also, how a paper tank woudnt exist in blueprints? Blueprints ARE the paper. Even if you said "fantasy tank" you would still be wrong. Therefore, your comment is ludicrously invalid and shows your lack of tank history comprehension.
Grille LXIX this existed (not quite in this form). Most tanks in the Russian tech tree were manufactured or had prototypes made of it with plenty more to add into the game. The scale at which the USSR invested into tank production and research was extremely high so they put out an extremely high number of blueprints and prototypes
@@epiccamper Then why not add the "historical gun" attached to the Su 130pm instead of a 130mm wand? Becoz wg makes german tech tree weaker than russian techtree in ALMOST ALL ASPECTS.
This Tank is in Kubinka left of the Obj 416. And can be seen in the Hatch Video
Classic wg
Good review and clear! Thank you sir o/
This community.. For once they actually make a useful addition to the game, a crew trainer for a popular tech tree. They don't make it game breaking, it's pretty much balanced against the Skorpion, yet all I see is complaints
Severijn van Lambalgen everyone hates the scorpion we don’t need another
if the su130pm was against the scorpion it would be fair. the problem is it isn't. read what people put in the comments its not complaints its the likelihood of overbalancing teams and they cannot get this right already.
QB are you gonna try to get it on your free to play account,i.e. grinding them missions ,is it worth the grind or not?
he will get it then say look I am free to play player so you can see its all good and shiny hahhaah. Reasons. Free to play is no prem tanks no prem time nothing and test the ammount of fun/and abillity to play the highest tier tank compared to others cuz you grinded the shit out of it. And the answer it is not worth it at all.
@@rtwiceorb770 no dude ftp is simply not spending any money on the game
@@mhmm29 Introducing you to free to play player. a guy that doesnt spend the money on game and has a life. So there is huge posibillity he wont be able to grind the tank out. I know for myself I was a free to play player playing around 10 games a day. 10 games and it was my main game to play so yea. But a free to play player without a life and that sits infront of PC playing wot all day yea he can grind it out. Or he lives by streaming the game. But yea free to play player is a guy that doesnt spend money on game that is true
@@rtwiceorb770 I was about to say... I'm a f2p player and I have collected a slew of premium tanks for free over the years ranging from tier 2 to tier 7. The only issue I really run into is the hesitation inherent with deciding when to use premium ammo as I can't afford to just be slinging gold all day.
Love the content quicky ;)
After over 500 battles I've never, even once, seen evidence that the Skorp G has 0.30 dispersion lol
I was litteraly january 9th 2015 didnt get the t50-2
That scorpion in a1 is the the reason i rage as often as I do. A waste of space.
Well now there's a better version of the Scorpion G. It'll ruin the game for you if it hasn't already.
Oh Qb you had missed that premium kv2 , that Stalin hammer was the hard hitter lol
Hy! Do you have information about Jagdtiger H ? :/ Will it ever release in the premium shop?
I'm pretty sure before this tank was out the SU-100Y with its premium AP rounds was the hardest hitting premium in the game
We really did not have soviet premium tanks already =P You said one of the critical things to that td, which I did not see one of earlier reviews, which I did watch: it has a limited turret rotation. Its very big downside to that, ofc people gonna get these lot free from mission now. But not real contest against Scorpion G, even with that OP camo against it. S G wins. Nice review, accurate and you did this with normally achievable crew too. Thnx :)
I picked this up over the weekend with the winter bundle that they had out I like it .
Thanks for another great video @QuickyBaby. Keep it cheeky! ;)
Can you update your thoughts on the su 130 pm b todays standards or if you think still the same 👍
think it'll ever return to the shop?
Only 1 question! When this coming out?
Su-100Y has higher alpha premium shells right? Or is that incorrect?
What's up with the damage increasing for same caliber guns??
The campyness will end with a tier 10 wheeled vehicle going 105 km/h and spotting all the back campers...will be fantastic on Ensk.. XD
Yes, everyone loves Higher alpha! We love losing half of our HP with one shot!
Hey QB u mentioned Type 59. This reminds me of the modified version QN-506 which showed up at CIAAE 2018. (China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition)
Well after plenty of battles................it is one of the best TDs I have play with, either at front or in the back. Strongly recommended.
This look like the su-100p but a fake tank that more than likely never existed but a nice addition. Great video
that was in a tier 8 game, lets see what it does in tier 10 games for 85% of the time with the current MM
HEY QUACKYBABY just wanna say ily ya vids ur da best
QB, isn't the KV-2(R) the premium tank with the highest alpha?
I have the scorpion G and I love it. I don't spam the gold rounds you don't need it. It helps that I play the tank more like a medium then a real sniper tank. I'm always up close and personal in my scorpion G
Tank destroyers are basically a new arty. With the crazy good camo they get that allow them to shoot without getting spotted making agressive plays in your heavies or mediums becomes suicidal. Game cries for a rework of spotting mechanic.
It's 2 in the morning and I just got a QB notification. Gotta watch it.
Depends if you count the VK 72 as a prem or not, if you do then it has been the highest alpha premium, but if you think about it the KV-2R is a prem with 700 alpha, so no it doesnt have the highest alpha on a prem
I like that kind of event. The missions for the tier ten's look also more doable than last time. I'm pleased... and I want that tank :D
I know i may get some flack for this, but I think this was sorta kinda needed, I mean, there is no t8 soviet tank destroyer. However, I would like to see mm fixes of course, but really if they are going to do more premiums, I think the we need a t8 Czechoslovakian medium premium tank before getting every type of t8 premium tank for soviet lines. We could also use a American t8 td as well, and s couple of other lines that have been neglected like British t8 prem tds. Just my 2 cents, thanks QB for a honest review of the tank!
Hi Will, i have a question. At the moment i have the Skorpion G for a while and it s worth it every penny. Does it worth to buy Su 130 pm? At the marathon i have reduce it to 50 % and i dont know what to do.
What about the T-103? When is that coming out
Is WG ever going to do anything for the other tech trees?
Looks fun. My first top tier tank was the Obj 704 (back when TD's only went to tier 9), so it's nice to see a tier 8 premium Soviet TD. However, I'm not all that excited to see it in a mission marathon. I'm not looking forward to seeing so many of them on the field.
So? How long would it take me to get this thing? (I completly suck at the game)
I really want the scorpion but I guess this is amazing aswell. Please give me tips
The reason that the Skorpion G only has a 50% win ratio is because there's almost always 1 on both teams, so it averages to 50%. It's a hair over the 49% true-er average (from draws) because occasionally one team has two when the other only has one.
Facts sourced straight from my rear end.
reflecting the things 'behind' it , chuckled a bit.
2 minutes? It's my first time being early! Great video!
Rocked through 3 levels in one quick session which is good rather than doing it day by day. But that premium ammo is ringing alarm bells, going to be some serious gold slingers ince this hits the games
Been having nothing but a blast in this one I got from a Loot crate. Total beast mode but easily killed if you get careless.
No way a soviet premium tank? Wow that's new.
Actually it is new, because thin one we can penetrate.
Alright QB you have a mission should you choose to accept. There is a tank called the PanterA (duh) there is also a band by the same name (also duh). So much like the Primo Victoria itd be fitting to have the crew be the members of the band (or at least allow the name change). Especially in the sense that 2 of the members (who were brothers) have passed away. You may remember in Dec of 2004 a guitarist was shot and killed in a club in Columbus Ohio. It was pretty big news nationally but dont know about international. Well that guitarist is Dimebag Darrell Abbott (Guitarist of PanterA and Damageplan). His brother Vinnie Paul Abbott (Drummer PanterA, Damageplan ands Hellyeah!) just passed away this summer from an enlarged heart. Clearly I dont expect much but if you could just run the idea by the WG staff who knows maybe we can memorialize the fallen Brothers in this game (i suspect at least a few people would start playing just to get a tank with the members of PanterA as crew members) Just a thought. Keep kickin ass
Isn’t Box-tank the hardest hitting premium? Especially with its premium rounds.
Also, what are your thoughts on those premium rounds? Higher damage with lower penetration
440 is not bigger than 520.
Insane, isn't it?