I have the Fast-R v1 and felt as though I was much more stable than any iteration of Alphaflys or Vaporflys I have run in. The wider forefoot area coupled with the heel end of the shoe seemed to force me into more of a proper foot strike once I neared the end of a recent half marathon race and was tired. My form (according to Garmin's running dynamics) didn't fall apart like it has in prior races at miles 12 and 13.
As an owner of all versions of the Alphafly, they really nailed the airpod placement and midsole change for slower runners in V3. I struggled to get the most out of V1. V2 was much better, but the shoe was completely overbuilt and bulky for the sake of being bulky. The V3 is like they made the shoe specifically for me, and I can't wait for my spring marathon to see how much they help me over the V1 in May '23 (3:30), the V2 in Oct '23 (3:23), hoping for sub 3:15 in May '24 with the V3....but might be a bit more than I can chew. LOL
3:15 is by no means a slower runner (that’s faster than like 97% of all finishers), but congrats and good luck! I found AF3 to be fast and certainly better than V2, but it wasn’t my favorite either. The pods for me felt harder to engage and as such the forefoot just felt kind of firm most of the time. Maybe just a foot strike thing for me.
Reminds me of the daily trainer comparisons from a couple of years ago, basically every conclusion was the Endorphin Speed was better. It might seem boring but if you truly believe it to be the best then I appreciate that consistent message, otherwise that opinion would lack integrity.
J'ai débuté dans le carbone avec les saucony endorphin pro 2. J'ai tenté avec Puma deviate nitro elite, même si le maintien de la cheville laissait à désirer, je les aime beaucoup. Principalement par leur confort, le mesh est très souple/aéré et SURTOUT une semelle super adhérente. Pour des chaussures carbone c'est assez rare. Donc, ravie des Puma. J'ai acheté les Puma fast R nitro 1. Sensationnelles, il n'y a rien de négatif. Elles m'incitent à fournir plus d'effort, plus de qualité de pose/déroulé du pied. Elles me le rendent bien : chrono interessant en bout de ligne. Bon, sans compter l'absence de courbature le lendemain, mais ça c'est le miracle des chaussures carbone. Je compte bien m'acheter la version 2, même si le prix est élevé. Je sais que je pourrais courir par tout temps et surtout par forte chaleur, elles doivent bien ventiler. Pour la durabilité je ne saurais me prononcer. Par contre les Endorphin, même si la semelle est usée, j'ai toujours l'effet rebond. C'est un modèle très très durable. Mais je les trouve moins confortables que les Puma et plus exigeantes. Si je veux chipoter, je dirais que les Endorphin me font aller un poil plus vite que les Fast. Mais vraiment, la marque Puma mérite d'être découverte. Dommage que pour l'instant ils ne se lancent pas sur le "tout terrain", ce n'est pas grave, leurs modèles route sont excellents et pour moi qui ait les pieds larges elles me conviennent bien, je prends une taille au dessus et le maintien est toujours là sans avoir la sensation d'un pied immensément long
But he had overall concerns about the build quality and durability of the shoe, which doesn't have too much to do with shoe preference. I don't think you can just gloss over such a massive price hike compared to other carbon plated shoes, especially when you can clearly see the midsole on your version has degraded substantially.@@TheRunTesters
I'm not glossing over anything. The price is high obviously, but it's not like other carbon shoes are cheap. If you want to spend £230-250 instead of £285 then that make sense. I also think it makes sense to opt for what I consider the better shoe for more once already spending that much. I have run 110km or so in the Alphafly 3 and haven't noticed any problems with build quality, the performance of the midsole hasn't degraded at all, let alone 'substantially'. You can't clearly see that from the video, because it isn't true. If I had concerns about durability, I would have covered them, as I did with the Vaporfly 3.
Alpha 3 perfectly combine the best idea with worst reliability, after multiple fail of nike's super shoes (alpha 2 air unit popped at 50km, vaporfly 2 came unglued at 20k, alpha 3 heel zoomx cracked at 40k), sad and fury😡😡😡! I'll let the brand holds up build quality take my money like puma, asics, saucony...! Great video🙌🙌🙌 and F nike 3000
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I have the Puma Fast R V1. Amazing shoe especially for uphill runs. Very comfortable and STABLE.. The shark fin is a must ❤
Great content as always, would love to know when the Alphafly 3 are being released again in the UK
Thanks! I saw March 7 in the UK for the volt yellow colour, hopefully a full release then
I have the Fast-R v1 and felt as though I was much more stable than any iteration of Alphaflys or Vaporflys I have run in. The wider forefoot area coupled with the heel end of the shoe seemed to force me into more of a proper foot strike once I neared the end of a recent half marathon race and was tired. My form (according to Garmin's running dynamics) didn't fall apart like it has in prior races at miles 12 and 13.
As an owner of all versions of the Alphafly, they really nailed the airpod placement and midsole change for slower runners in V3. I struggled to get the most out of V1. V2 was much better, but the shoe was completely overbuilt and bulky for the sake of being bulky. The V3 is like they made the shoe specifically for me, and I can't wait for my spring marathon to see how much they help me over the V1 in May '23 (3:30), the V2 in Oct '23 (3:23), hoping for sub 3:15 in May '24 with the V3....but might be a bit more than I can chew. LOL
3:15 is by no means a slower runner (that’s faster than like 97% of all finishers), but congrats and good luck!
I found AF3 to be fast and certainly better than V2, but it wasn’t my favorite either. The pods for me felt harder to engage and as such the forefoot just felt kind of firm most of the time. Maybe just a foot strike thing for me.
So basically Alphafly 3 > everything else. Got it
Reminds me of the daily trainer comparisons from a couple of years ago, basically every conclusion was the Endorphin Speed was better. It might seem boring but if you truly believe it to be the best then I appreciate that consistent message, otherwise that opinion would lack integrity.
I mean it is. I have two pairs of the Alphafly 1 and it trumps anything i ve ever run in(20+ models by now)
Nike race shoes still the Best ! They talk about Durablity, Price Tag, but itsnt important for Race shoes actually …
@SergiuSalcau00 did you actually test them? I went to a lab, and the AF1 felt fast but the Adidas tested more efficient.
So is the price haha
Great content. My pumas coming tomorrow
I think Adidas has something to say in all of this with the evo1 and hopefully the pro4
A mix of bias and how a shoe feels has people forgetting that the Nike aren't always the fastest in the lab for individual athletes.
J'ai débuté dans le carbone avec les saucony endorphin pro 2. J'ai tenté avec Puma deviate nitro elite, même si le maintien de la cheville laissait à désirer, je les aime beaucoup. Principalement par leur confort, le mesh est très souple/aéré et SURTOUT une semelle super adhérente. Pour des chaussures carbone c'est assez rare. Donc, ravie des Puma. J'ai acheté les Puma fast R nitro 1. Sensationnelles, il n'y a rien de négatif. Elles m'incitent à fournir plus d'effort, plus de qualité de pose/déroulé du pied. Elles me le rendent bien : chrono interessant en bout de ligne. Bon, sans compter l'absence de courbature le lendemain, mais ça c'est le miracle des chaussures carbone. Je compte bien m'acheter la version 2, même si le prix est élevé. Je sais que je pourrais courir par tout temps et surtout par forte chaleur, elles doivent bien ventiler. Pour la durabilité je ne saurais me prononcer. Par contre les Endorphin, même si la semelle est usée, j'ai toujours l'effet rebond. C'est un modèle très très durable. Mais je les trouve moins confortables que les Puma et plus exigeantes. Si je veux chipoter, je dirais que les Endorphin me font aller un poil plus vite que les Fast. Mais vraiment, la marque Puma mérite d'être découverte. Dommage que pour l'instant ils ne se lancent pas sur le "tout terrain", ce n'est pas grave, leurs modèles route sont excellents et pour moi qui ait les pieds larges elles me conviennent bien, je prends une taille au dessus et le maintien est toujours là sans avoir la sensation d'un pied immensément long
Which is more stable for heel striker?
Do you still get the energy return in the Puma at slow pace at the end of the long run..
Are these shoes for marathon or just for 5k to 10k ???
TRT-
Price & durability given performance... Nike are fading?
Eddbud strongly disagrees with you about the Alphafly
And he loves the Fast R2
I imagine he won't be the only one, shoes don't feel the same for everyone
Eddbud wears a size 12...very different foot.(I'm a size 11...:0) )
But he had overall concerns about the build quality and durability of the shoe, which doesn't have too much to do with shoe preference. I don't think you can just gloss over such a massive price hike compared to other carbon plated shoes, especially when you can clearly see the midsole on your version has degraded substantially.@@TheRunTesters
I'm not glossing over anything. The price is high obviously, but it's not like other carbon shoes are cheap. If you want to spend £230-250 instead of £285 then that make sense. I also think it makes sense to opt for what I consider the better shoe for more once already spending that much. I have run 110km or so in the Alphafly 3 and haven't noticed any problems with build quality, the performance of the midsole hasn't degraded at all, let alone 'substantially'. You can't clearly see that from the video, because it isn't true. If I had concerns about durability, I would have covered them, as I did with the Vaporfly 3.
I think for the first time ever the puma shoe looks more like a Nike shoe. And the Nike shoe looks more like a puma shoe 👟🤣
Alpha 3 perfectly combine the best idea with worst reliability, after multiple fail of nike's super shoes (alpha 2 air unit popped at 50km, vaporfly 2 came unglued at 20k, alpha 3 heel zoomx cracked at 40k), sad and fury😡😡😡! I'll let the brand holds up build quality take my money like puma, asics, saucony...! Great video🙌🙌🙌 and F nike 3000