That's not entirely true though. You also must give credit to an opponent who does everything correctly to pull you off your game. So while in essence it may be your fault, you're in there with someone of similar skill and training. It's a chess match of sorts and IN trying to pull someone off their game so you can rip shots, they are studying you just the same, looking for tells they will remember in order to find openings. And it's Like Mike Tyson said… Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. And some people just have the brute power that no amount of proper footwork and body discipline and positioning can overcome. If you study Manny Pacquiao closely, more often than not he's throwing punches from the incorrect natural stance, rather than a boxing stance as this gentleman demonstrated here. HOWEVER, he knocks people out, there must be something most people miss and mistake it for him being this supremely disciplined, well-schooled boxer, and that's just not right. Manny s one such person who possesses brute strength and can deliver KO power even from the wrong stance. Had Oscar Delahoya not been on the coke and trained properly, his traditional boxing discipline would have outclassed Pacquiao easily and he would have won. The Oscar who destroyed Chavez, schooled Trinidad, and fought Moseley would have creamed Pacquiao on his best day. And keeping in mind that Oscar is a left handed fighter fighting from the conventional stance, once he set people up and threw the left Hook, it was usually good night. His right hind is excellent, but his left hand is crisp and packs brutal power. THAT'S how devastatingly important proper footwork and mechanics are in boxing and it makes all the difference. And that's why I can't watch MMA fights without cringing. Poor or non-existent footwork and mechanics, and for the most part no defense. They just throw shots and hope to be the first to land on the other guy's chin. Look at most MMA KO's and the guy who gets caught is too busy throwing back instead of trying to block or time a counter. just sad really.
this is what a true teacher is supposed to be like, a man with deep understanding of the subject, and a very clear and practical explanation of it. superb video.
I know in MMA its not completely squared up. But the things this boxing guy is teaching, is not how you stand up in MMA. This is why, Conor, didnt bring in boxers to train him vs mayweather. They would try change his style up too much, and he would be at a bigger disadvantage vs floyd. MMA stance is fundamentally different. I can see however, how a top MMA athlete, can utilise what he is teaching. But it would not serve as the best fundamentals for seminar material, to new athletes.
Lyk there’s many fighters who have a narrow stance in MMA but with that you have to understand distance and how to avoid getting kicked and defending kicks if you know that than the boxing stance can be effective and well also know how to defend takedowns
No he doesnt😂 this is basics shouldnt need a youtube video to explain this, also looks like a mma gym and the person helping him has a mma stance or kickboxing stance whatever so you cant blame them
I love how all these bum "mma fighters" are critiquing him so much. He already went in by saying "I'm not trying to change your fighting style" in a sense. Just trying to teach you balance. That your hardest opponent is yourself. Big ups to this guy.
I'm training to be an mma fighter. I train in kickboxing, boxing, muay tai, freestyle wrestling, jiu jitsu, greco Roman wrestling and I dabble in judo and samba mildy. Quite simply, they're not going to be good mma fighters. You need to know EVERYTHING, he isn't trying to change their overall style he's just working on their boxing. Take GSP for example, he undoubtedly was a wrestle based fighter, but he still utilised boxing, karate and stand up techniques. To really grow as a fighter, you must always listen. I for the first 3-5 months would insist I could only grapple, then I saw how I need to box for mma and now I can box. Now almost a year in and I'm strong everywhere. Don't get me wrong I'm not ready to fight yet (I've done an interclub jiu jitsu thing 2-2) but that wasn't a fight by any means, and tbh I don't want to fight in a Jiu Jitsu only style comp. Listen and you will learn.
@@eddietasker9110 it really depends, I'm 9-2 as a fighter and I can tell you this, there is wayyy too much to learn to try and learn everything. The consensus in MMA is that when you begin, wrestling is the most important thing to learn. BJJ taught and trained in the right way can incorporate alot of wrestling, but being a wrestler since kindergaten gave me a huge advantage over my opponents. The next thing I would tell you is that it's important to learn SOME form of stand up. If you try to learn everything about Muy Thai and everything about Boxing, it will be impossible for you to implement them all because the stances are different, the fighting philosophy is different and the general striking tactics are different between the two. What I'm basically saying is even if you could Master them all, some of what you learn will eventually be useless. Now, if you're talking about taking the most effective techniques from each, that's a different story, but if you're trying to learn too much of each one you will be lost in the fight game. It's almost better to master one discipline while trying to become average at another. Your focus has to be on developing a level of skill your opponent doesn't have in a certain area, and this is hard to obtain if you're dividing your time between all of those disciplines. Some of techniques compliment each other nicely in MMA, other techniques, like some ppl have pointed out, will leave you wide open to an attack that isn't legal in that discipline. Being a wrestler I had to learn certain things I was taught was wrong fo MMA, even though most of what I know works, so be wary of what you're being taught because it doesn't always translate to efficient cage fighting techniques!!
@@eddietasker9110 I use to box wrestling judo n Tai chi as child n adult hood. I do all styles to learn yourself then learn others is a proper ethics of sports n street combat. I started out myself n others at the same time but normally people should start with self
Your drills helped a lot during my sparring today. My partners even asked me if I boxed before n I said nah lol so thank you for your teachings, and patience 🙏🏿🙏🏿
"concentrate on your own game" This is very true. I don't box yet but I do play chess, there was a time when I was playing at my worst and what I realized is that I was too worried about what my opponent was doing that I couldn't focus on what I was doing. Once I started focusing on only my moves I improved by so much.
Best thing I learned from my coach was when to take the "boxers stance". If you're only boxing, dont deviate from this stance. If there are more elements in play, boxers stance is not as mobile and it opens you up to not only leg kicks, but a number of take downs as well. So, in turn, know when to be mobile but know when to stand and throw. You can circle with that stance but you can't check a kick or stuff a takedown as easily
the definition he uses at first describes Lomachenko perfectly. If you have footwork and angles then you do not have to worry how hard the other guy punches.
🔴 I love when people break down the science and the mental aspect of things! This is EXACTLY what type of video I was searching for! I'm only 2 minutes in so far, and I had to pause the video to make this comment! #Respect
The problem is that all this makes perfect sense, but as much as you practice this in your head as well as physically, as Mike Tyson famously and correctly said… everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. So while this is in theory excellent advice, good look doing this when in a fight, this instructor included.
I have adopted this stance and it has paid off dividends with my long arms. I usually never have to throw anything other than the jab. I'm still able to send the kicks that I need to when I need to. Thanks for this. This has improved my kickboxing game so much
Adopted what stance exactly.....sorry...I couldn't understand what exactly is this true boxers stance.....what is the stance...or is it positioning... Can you please explain a bit?
@@anupamkanojia5485 look at his feet, his stance is more bladed than the 'squared up' stance most folks associate with boxing when starting off. Compare the instructor's feet and hip to the student he is demonstrating with.
You can tell he's passionate about his craft and making you understand how simple things can be if you just open your mind a little bit. Well done sir.....
MMA fighters who don't want to "mess up their style" have no right to call themselves mixed martial artists. The whole idea of mma is to take a variety of different styles and merge them, picking out what works for you and removing what doesn't, then replacing it with something better. If they come to his classes and say "you're gonna try turn me into a boxer" they're right, and they're idiots! Because they SHOULD become a boxer while training with him, learn to think like a boxer, move like a boxer, fight like a boxer. Only after they have a solid grasp of what it is to be a boxer can then they start to merge it into their mixed martial arts. If all they worry about is "my style" then they don't deserve to learn in the first place
If it helps, I have been applying a lot of his principles in MMA sparring sessions and they have helped me tremendously, I even feel comfortable shooting for a takedown out of this stance. I am not (yet ;)) a pro fighter, but this is just my 2 satoshis.
To hell with that; ONLY I need a trainer like him - then, the rest of you can fall victim to my fists of fury once I'm finished learning from him, LOL!
fuku payme - yeah we do but don't teach your enemy at all ! Notice Japanese masters only teach everything you know not everything they know ...think about that !!
Wonderful instruction. This goes for construction work, school teachers, math, science, chemistry, whatever. It's one thing to know how to do something, it's another thing to be able to clearly instruct it. Many people can't clearly teach what they know. This guy is a clean and clear instructor. That's an uncommon and valuable talent.
Grand Master would ALWAYS say "fight your fight, not mine!" Interesting interpretation of a bladed stance. His explanation of balance is the pillar on which ALL martial arts stand. It's the meaning of stance. Grand Master always said, "What technique you throw is determined by your stance, stance is everything." Great info, the similarities are stunning. Thank you for sharing. Ooss
Because most are meatheads that don't realize that boxing is a martial art and system. It's an art of fucking your opponent up. Or the ugliness. It's subjective, but intelligent fighting is art.
This is why Cuba dominate... footwork comes first and punches are attached to the flow. Even with momentum in movement... there is a pre-defined set of forces through the coordination of the muscles that will control it. I was watching how Marvin preloaded the back foot, swivelled the hip and spoke on balance... foundations to improve footwork and movement. Amazing!
Emmanuel Toledo just focus on staying on your toes man. The balls of your front feet for movement. People have alot of trouble because they stay on their heels which makes it harder to maneuver properly and to punch while moving.
I'm quite new into boxing, the only reason I got in to it is since I had an epiphany and acknowledged the game for what it is, which is exactly what Marvin so eloquently described here. so much thanks for this encouragement, I'm relieved to see I was not delusional :)
This is some good stuff, I want him to be my coach. I signed up into what I thought was a true boxing gym, but it turns out to be a gym where a lot of moms and really anyone comes to break a sweat. It starts with some jogging in place, left, now right, now left, now right, and jazz hands!...I'm kidding about the jazz hands, but you get the idea. They have heavy bags, speed bags, upper cut bags, even a ring; that no one uses so I'm confused on how it came to this. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with people wanting to get themselves a good workout with boxing. But I actually wanted to become a fighter, or the very least learn how to defend myself. But TH-cam coaches are my best options at the moment. Thanks for the knowledge good sir!
Hector Cortez Look up retired golden gloves or retired pro/semi-pro boxers in your area. 9 times out of 10 they become boxing coaches after they end their fighting career.
Maybe talk to them if you are truly interested maybe someone knows something but didn’t get the clientele they hoped but have adapted to the ppl that showed up.
Right on! Now this video is from 2012, and since that time we have seen the rise of excellent technical boxers with solid fundamentals: Vasil Lomachenko, Naoya Inoue, Genaddy Golovkin, and Artur Beterbiev. These boxers have the stance, the footwork, the angles - everything that makes boxing the beautiful art that it is meant to be.
I'm 70 years old and benefitted from some top-notch professional trainers in my life. Marvin is an excellent trainer and I'm impressed. Great communicator and demonstrator great job Mr. Cook.
Incredible… coach was talking about Wilder V Fury 10 years ago! Perfectly describing Wilder and his power over technique style. Got found out didn’t he!
Thanks Marvin. I learned something that probably contributed to me being a mediocre fighter because I didn’t know it back in the day. (I’m 63 by the way!)
Thanks for preaching the correct way. It's not easy to find coaches like this man today, not many true boxing gyms are out there. The world is full of kick boxing, muay thai and mma schools, they get people in by the masses, most of them end just hitting the bag or just each other with no benefit. Boxing is the base,the footwork, balance, agility, body movement that boxing teaches you cannot be found in any other martial art.
what the hell are you talking about ward agreed to fight kovalev before he even moved up dummy ggg was scared of ward ward has the balls to move up n take on the baddest guy in the division ward and his trainer preach learning footwork before learning hands student of the game
Really can't thank you enough for these videos. I recently joined a boxing gym with 0 knowledge on the sport and from day 1 it seemed more like a boxing workout than actual training. For example first day of class I was already hitting the heavy bag and doing 1-2 combos on the mitts!!! I had no idea how to punch, no idea how to stand, these fuckers didn't even help me with the hand wrap. Two of my friends joined a week prior to me and were sparring already but the difference is they can punch hard and wrestled D1 in college so I guess the 'trainers' feel they are athletic enough to compete. I started looking for help elsewhere and this channel has by far been the most helpful as Marvin's ability to teach mechanics+area of focus+theory allows the student to see the big picture which changed my mindset of boxing from "throw a punch and hope it connects" to chess. THANK YOU
Mike Tyson had a very square stance. The sideways stance is vulnerable to leg kicks. There is a reason why Muay Thai fighters stand square. The square stance is also compatible with wrestling/grappling. IMO, Mike Tyson's peek a boo style is the most compatible style of boxing in MMA. The ducking and weaving is compatible with going for the takedown. Just don't bob sideways too much...
+Dizni That's why I think Boxing Is better than Muay thai. I feel like if you were to use Muay thai In the streets, there's a more chance of you taking more damage to your body than if you were to use boxing. Muay thai rely too much on the size of gloves. They don't slip, duck, Bob to side, shoulder roll, create angles ect. I feel like Muay thai just lacks the fundamentals on fighting. Without proper fundamentals, no matter how much Weapons you have, you won't survive long In the octagon or the streets.
Marvin is a GURU !!! Great applicator of his words so much we learn or not learn is. dependant upon the teachers speech to visual talent and hes got it all
For the people saying that this stance is bad for low kicks (or kicks in general), yeah it is true, but you can try to combine muay thai/kick boxing stance with the "true" boxing stance. Tj Dillashaw, Dominick Cruz are both great exemples.
Amazing explanation. Excellent teacher right here. Thank you for reinforcing this. Just looked at your profile, and its a damn shame you are not uploading anymore.
two words: george foreman. of course punching power matters. if it didnt he never wouldve been champ once let alone twice. having said that, if he was a better boxer and had proper footwork and defence he probably never wouldve been beat
Sanjeev patel Mcgregor is a terrible boxer haha and now there’s people in MMA who actually train Boxing and are way better boxers than him even Khabib being a wrestler outboxed him
@@joaquinflores3547 Wow khabib knocked him down with a wild overhand while Conor was expecting the single leg so he try to sprawl and got hit and intently recovered. Any other moments where you think khabib "outboxed".
Kirk Landau I practice boxing my friend Connor does not box better than a boxer plus Khabib did outclassed him because he was more patient and landed cleaner shoots actually the both of them are not good boxers but Khabib was the better striker in that fight
We need more trainers like this who understands and never leaves out the true fundamentals of boxing who goes deep into the core and breaks it down to help fighters grow and become better.
who the fuck just walks into a gym, goes up to one of the coaches and basically says im not going to listen to anything u say? thats just beyond disrespectful.
RENE HERNANDEZ thats wat the guy in the video said. he says that mma fighters and wrestlers come into his gym and tell him that they're not going to listen to wat he tells them because they have they're own thing going.
+Patrick Quinn The coach in this video is Marvin Cook, and that place where teaches is not his gym. That gym belongs to the Eric Paulson. He not part of the MMA classes, he's independent. He only does private Boxing lessons for now.
Boxing is almost like dancing. It’s much more than just punching. That’s part of the reason as to why it’s such a beautiful sport. This man knows what he’s talking about. Great video!
I agree with cardiomanify...... If you stand like that all the time you're going to eat a hell of a lot of leg kicks. You can't be so absolute, every stance has pros and cons which means in some situations it will not work.... You have to adapt to the situation. There's no such thing as one stands for everything.
I went to my free class yesterday i have no experience with boxing or fighting for that matter and this is exactly what I learned there thanks for the instruction
Brilliant. I have spent a lot of time on thinking about how movement "opens people up" or "get(ting) angles". One of the most fundamentally difficult things to wrap your head around and work in practice. Thank you for this.
Man, this dude totally has me pegged. I hit someone with a left hook one day in the ring and knocked them out cold... I basically ruined my boxing technique after that. I totally fell in love with my power, after 5 stoppages in amateur boxing and Im only 5'4 125lbs. Then one day I was asked to spar a girl, reluctantly I did so... and HOE LYYY shit, she beat the CRRRAP out of me so bad! It felt like I was "sparring" at least 2 of her. I couldn't hit her for nothing. If I even thought about hitting her my head would suddenly get snapped back out of no where and *Bamn* she was gone. Great lesson learned. I'm glad it happened. She wasn't faster than me, she just had WAAY better foot work, and a much better idea of what actual boxing was, hit and don't get hit. Where as I had eventually development this retarded willingness to eat 3 of your shots just so I could land 1 of mine. Listen to this man people!
Been practicing this stance for the past 2 years,still the hardest style period. It's beautiful when I spar and have my opponent in the line of fire because I can see their back foot. Thanks Shujin Marvin!
This is great until a Jose Aldo type comes by and kicks that front leg. Don't get me wrong I really like what he said as far as philosophy goes. Mma stance has to consider kicks.
you are very prone to leg kicks in this stance and its not a very good stance to check kicks, but for mobility its actually one of the best in my opinion. Also you can just teep the person if they come in with a leg kick with no boxing setup or just backstep. Its rather easy, just watch saenchai and other muaythai/k1 fighters backstepping. Get use to backstepping until it becomes second nature.
I see the same problem, I'm focusing on boxing right now and the stance is very different from Muay Thai that I used to practice, so I'm trying to find my perfect balanced stance between the two.
Lot of peeps saying oh it's all basics, if u haven't got basics u haven't got a thing. Good video. Peeps have to remember we were all novices at least once. Good teaching. Ta.
Don't give him the credit when he hits you. See it as YOUR fault and don't give him that chance again. Gold.
wtf bro
That's not entirely true though. You also must give credit to an opponent who does everything correctly to pull you off your game. So while in essence it may be your fault, you're in there with someone of similar skill and training. It's a chess match of sorts and IN trying to pull someone off their game so you can rip shots, they are studying you just the same, looking for tells they will remember in order to find openings.
And it's Like Mike Tyson said… Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. And some people just have the brute power that no amount of proper footwork and body discipline and positioning can overcome.
If you study Manny Pacquiao closely, more often than not he's throwing punches from the incorrect natural stance, rather than a boxing stance as this gentleman demonstrated here. HOWEVER, he knocks people out, there must be something most people miss and mistake it for him being this supremely disciplined, well-schooled boxer, and that's just not right. Manny s one such person who possesses brute strength and can deliver KO power even from the wrong stance. Had Oscar Delahoya not been on the coke and trained properly, his traditional boxing discipline would have outclassed Pacquiao easily and he would have won. The Oscar who destroyed Chavez, schooled Trinidad, and fought Moseley would have creamed Pacquiao on his best day. And keeping in mind that Oscar is a left handed fighter fighting from the conventional stance, once he set people up and threw the left Hook, it was usually good night. His right hind is excellent, but his left hand is crisp and packs brutal power.
THAT'S how devastatingly important proper footwork and mechanics are in boxing and it makes all the difference.
And that's why I can't watch MMA fights without cringing. Poor or non-existent footwork and mechanics, and for the most part no defense. They just throw shots and hope to be the first to land on the other guy's chin. Look at most MMA KO's and the guy who gets caught is too busy throwing back instead of trying to block or time a counter.
just sad really.
@@theINQBS ok.
@@theINQBS you're soooo knowledgeable
And dont give him the Credit when he Knocks you out!!!😉 (See it as YOUR Fault Hahahaha😂😂😂😂
this is what a true teacher is supposed to be like, a man with deep understanding of the subject, and a very clear and practical explanation of it. superb video.
I agree 100%! I learned so much from this video.
And somebody you know nobody wanna try
You can see his passion too. A teacher without passion is a charlatan
Liquidcadmus he is a competent teacher but he should use more questions when teaching his students
@@ShapurTheLegend
I disagree. A teacher without passion is simply less effective at teaching.. not necessarily a charlatan
that turning at the hips instead of the shoulders part was absolute gold!!!!!!!!!!!!
MUSCLE SHARK MARK its hard doe
Yeah I was screaming at myself for doing it wrong for so many years.
That’s what we learn first in any boxing school ...
Immediately liked the video when he explained that part
And basics
Intelligent man who really understands the sport
Yep... except he is teaching at an MMA gym... There is a reason they stand squared up. Them leg kicks hurt.
I know in MMA its not completely squared up. But the things this boxing guy is teaching, is not how you stand up in MMA.
This is why, Conor, didnt bring in boxers to train him vs mayweather. They would try change his style up too much, and he would be at a bigger disadvantage vs floyd.
MMA stance is fundamentally different.
I can see however, how a top MMA athlete, can utilise what he is teaching. But it would not serve as the best fundamentals for seminar material, to new athletes.
Not confusing anything. And you dont teach beginners how to fight like anderson Silva. And the kids in that video are novices.
Intelligent man who really understands how to sell himself*
Lyk there’s many fighters who have a narrow stance in MMA but with that you have to understand distance and how to avoid getting kicked and defending kicks if you know that than the boxing stance can be effective and well also know how to defend takedowns
I am simple man. I just jab, jab, dodge, uppercut, tiger kick, and sonic boom. And I win championship easily
Thanks for tellin us ;)
In my dreams I can blow fire. Reeeeeal fire. It's huff huff huff. Smoke. Fire. Then I wake up and grab a coffee
Where's the kick in the balls
What, no Spirit Bomb? Pffft, amateur...
😂 that easy huh?
This guy knows what he is talking!
Black boxers make me 💤💤💤💤💤💤
KGBz theyre so good, makes it boring to watch...
@@Test7017 Yet Black boxers reign supreme
No he doesnt😂 this is basics shouldnt need a youtube video to explain this, also looks like a mma gym and the person helping him has a mma stance or kickboxing stance whatever so you cant blame them
@@iibooradley1166Good one 😂 ✌.
I boxed for 11 years and never had any coach explain things so simple and understandable. Very good advice, Great job! Subscribed!
I'm a new comer trying to learn. Do you have any tips?
Newbport I wouldn’t take this video (technique wise) to heart if you’re really trying to box
I love how all these bum "mma fighters" are critiquing him so much. He already went in by saying "I'm not trying to change your fighting style" in a sense. Just trying to teach you balance. That your hardest opponent is yourself. Big ups to this guy.
If you are teaching someone to fight with their leg turned in you are trying to change their fighting style
I'm training to be an mma fighter. I train in kickboxing, boxing, muay tai, freestyle wrestling, jiu jitsu, greco Roman wrestling and I dabble in judo and samba mildy.
Quite simply, they're not going to be good mma fighters. You need to know EVERYTHING, he isn't trying to change their overall style he's just working on their boxing. Take GSP for example, he undoubtedly was a wrestle based fighter, but he still utilised boxing, karate and stand up techniques. To really grow as a fighter, you must always listen. I for the first 3-5 months would insist I could only grapple, then I saw how I need to box for mma and now I can box. Now almost a year in and I'm strong everywhere. Don't get me wrong I'm not ready to fight yet (I've done an interclub jiu jitsu thing 2-2) but that wasn't a fight by any means, and tbh I don't want to fight in a Jiu Jitsu only style comp.
Listen and you will learn.
@@eddietasker9110 it really depends, I'm 9-2 as a fighter and I can tell you this, there is wayyy too much to learn to try and learn everything. The consensus in MMA is that when you begin, wrestling is the most important thing to learn. BJJ taught and trained in the right way can incorporate alot of wrestling, but being a wrestler since kindergaten gave me a huge advantage over my opponents. The next thing I would tell you is that it's important to learn SOME form of stand up. If you try to learn everything about Muy Thai and everything about Boxing, it will be impossible for you to implement them all because the stances are different, the fighting philosophy is different and the general striking tactics are different between the two. What I'm basically saying is even if you could Master them all, some of what you learn will eventually be useless. Now, if you're talking about taking the most effective techniques from each, that's a different story, but if you're trying to learn too much of each one you will be lost in the fight game. It's almost better to master one discipline while trying to become average at another. Your focus has to be on developing a level of skill your opponent doesn't have in a certain area, and this is hard to obtain if you're dividing your time between all of those disciplines. Some of techniques compliment each other nicely in MMA, other techniques, like some ppl have pointed out, will leave you wide open to an attack that isn't legal in that discipline. Being a wrestler I had to learn certain things I was taught was wrong fo MMA, even though most of what I know works, so be wary of what you're being taught because it doesn't always translate to efficient cage fighting techniques!!
@@eddietasker9110 I use to box wrestling judo n Tai chi as child n adult hood. I do all styles to learn yourself then learn others is a proper ethics of sports n street combat. I started out myself n others at the same time but normally people should start with self
@@eddietasker9110 this guy can teach too bad there no other black/brown people in his class. In going to open my gym anyway
Your drills helped a lot during my sparring today. My partners even asked me if I boxed before n I said nah lol so thank you for your teachings, and patience 🙏🏿🙏🏿
"concentrate on your own game"
This is very true. I don't box yet but I do play chess, there was a time when I was playing at my worst and what I realized is that I was too worried about what my opponent was doing that I couldn't focus on what I was doing. Once I started focusing on only my moves I improved by so much.
My father who was a professional boxing manager and a good boxer told me to worry about Your gun not the Other man's gun!
Best thing I learned from my coach was when to take the "boxers stance". If you're only boxing, dont deviate from this stance. If there are more elements in play, boxers stance is not as mobile and it opens you up to not only leg kicks, but a number of take downs as well. So, in turn, know when to be mobile but know when to stand and throw. You can circle with that stance but you can't check a kick or stuff a takedown as easily
Mom: What were you doing all of this time?
Me: Pure mathematics
the definition he uses at first describes Lomachenko perfectly.
If you have footwork and angles then you do not have to worry how hard the other guy punches.
This comment did not age well
@@jonathanclark2557 what happened?
@@jonathanclark2557 bc he lost one fight to a bigger stronger opponent and yet still won 5 rounds??
@@dylanmahanets6603 lost against teofimo Lopez with an injured shoulder. Couldn’t set up his offence, and eventually got caught by a deviating punch.
Then he faced a power puncher and all that went out the window
This man understands movement
🔴 I love when people break down the science and the mental aspect of things! This is EXACTLY what type of video I was searching for! I'm only 2 minutes in so far, and I had to pause the video to make this comment! #Respect
The Realest Idealist he’s a savant
He is a great teacher.
The problem is that all this makes perfect sense, but as much as you practice this in your head as well as physically, as Mike Tyson famously and correctly said… everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
So while this is in theory excellent advice, good look doing this when in a fight, this instructor included.
theINQBS true
Back in 1998 this old Italian man thought me these techniques about balance and footwork. Common sense when u think about it
I have adopted this stance and it has paid off dividends with my long arms. I usually never have to throw anything other than the jab. I'm still able to send the kicks that I need to when I need to. Thanks for this. This has improved my kickboxing game so much
Adopted what stance exactly.....sorry...I couldn't understand what exactly is this true boxers stance.....what is the stance...or is it positioning...
Can you please explain a bit?
@@anupamkanojia5485 look at his feet, his stance is more bladed than the 'squared up' stance most folks associate with boxing when starting off. Compare the instructor's feet and hip to the student he is demonstrating with.
You can tell he's passionate about his craft and making you understand how simple things can be if you just open your mind a little bit. Well done sir.....
MMA fighters who don't want to "mess up their style" have no right to call themselves mixed martial artists.
The whole idea of mma is to take a variety of different styles and merge them, picking out what works for you and removing what doesn't, then replacing it with something better.
If they come to his classes and say "you're gonna try turn me into a boxer" they're right, and they're idiots! Because they SHOULD become a boxer while training with him, learn to think like a boxer, move like a boxer, fight like a boxer. Only after they have a solid grasp of what it is to be a boxer can then they start to merge it into their mixed martial arts.
If all they worry about is "my style" then they don't deserve to learn in the first place
This comment needs to be pinned and immensely like spammed. I fully agree.
If it helps, I have been applying a lot of his principles in MMA sparring sessions and they have helped me tremendously, I even feel comfortable shooting for a takedown out of this stance. I am not (yet ;)) a pro fighter, but this is just my 2 satoshis.
Fact
Nah, mma is about to be efective and win over all, if the boxer stance is not your stuff dismise
@@carlosandres1835 I don't think you u derstands my comment or the essence of MMA.
we need more good trainers like him
casper ghost whos we white people?
everyone
fuku payme about 1 in a million people have savant abilities.
To hell with that; ONLY I need a trainer like him - then, the rest of you can fall victim to my fists of fury once I'm finished learning from him, LOL!
fuku payme - yeah we do but don't teach your enemy at all ! Notice Japanese masters only teach everything you know not everything they know ...think about that !!
Wonderful instruction. This goes for construction work, school teachers, math, science, chemistry, whatever.
It's one thing to know how to do something, it's another thing to be able to clearly instruct it. Many people can't clearly teach what they know.
This guy is a clean and clear instructor. That's an uncommon and valuable talent.
Every single word was correct. Understanding theory is crucial.
John You honestly couldn't have said it any better.
True. It all starts with Footwork & hip movement. On defense and Offense
Grand Master would ALWAYS say "fight your fight, not mine!" Interesting interpretation of a bladed stance. His explanation of balance is the pillar on which ALL martial arts stand. It's the meaning of stance. Grand Master always said, "What technique you throw is determined by your stance, stance is everything." Great info, the similarities are stunning. Thank you for sharing. Ooss
my grandmaster said, "I'll have fries with my burger"
Priceless advice! Using my hips has made things flow so much better.
5:02 This is also how we were taught to turn in Karate.
From the hips...
No wonder Machida has sound footwork!
this is true old school era foot work this not tought today in boxing gyms today much respect too this dude
Because most are meatheads that don't realize that boxing is a martial art and system. It's an art of fucking your opponent up. Or the ugliness. It's subjective, but intelligent fighting is art.
This is why Cuba dominate... footwork comes first and punches are attached to the flow. Even with momentum in movement... there is a pre-defined set of forces through the coordination of the muscles that will control it. I was watching how Marvin preloaded the back foot, swivelled the hip and spoke on balance... foundations to improve footwork and movement. Amazing!
Best video of an explanation of foot work that I have ever seen.
Angel Perez I just joined boxing/kicking boxing. And I am having trouble with my foot work. The 1 2
Emmanuel Toledo just focus on staying on your toes man. The balls of your front feet for movement. People have alot of trouble because they stay on their heels which makes it harder to maneuver properly and to punch while moving.
I'm just begining in boxing, and this is gold, true old school boxing 101, like we need !
These youngins don't know anything anymore, can't even put seasoning on the collard greens
Real men eat kale, not collard greens.
@@varanid9 REAL men been eating Kale AND collard greens before YOU even got a whiff of any of it......buddy
@@Ministrym3 oh.. my hero...
ahahaahaha
I used smoked ham hock baby!!!
And pepper vinegar, I know what up!!!
I'm quite new into boxing, the only reason I got in to it is since I had an epiphany and acknowledged the game for what it is, which is exactly what Marvin so eloquently described here. so much thanks for this encouragement, I'm relieved to see I was not delusional :)
Mike Tyson said "Everyone has a plan til they get punched in the face" LOl
Dustin McCain Joe Louis said it first he said everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit
He also said "I broke my back. My back is broken. Its spinal."
But I'm sure we can find a balance in there somewhere. :)
@zi.the.realest17 is that what I said? Mike was great! But i have to agree with Mr. Atlas, "He was great until he met resistance."
everyone has a plan, they just need to get into the ring to see if their plan works
This is some good stuff, I want him to be my coach. I signed up into what I thought was a true boxing gym, but it turns out to be a gym where a lot of moms and really anyone comes to break a sweat. It starts with some jogging in place, left, now right, now left, now right, and jazz hands!...I'm kidding about the jazz hands, but you get the idea. They have heavy bags, speed bags, upper cut bags, even a ring; that no one uses so I'm confused on how it came to this.
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with people wanting to get themselves a good workout with boxing. But I actually wanted to become a fighter, or the very least learn how to defend myself. But TH-cam coaches are my best options at the moment. Thanks for the knowledge good sir!
Hector Cortez Look up retired golden gloves or retired pro/semi-pro boxers in your area. 9 times out of 10 they become boxing coaches after they end their fighting career.
Maybe talk to them if you are truly interested maybe someone knows something but didn’t get the clientele they hoped but have adapted to the ppl that showed up.
This guy is a Scientist. Awesome advice.
Check out the Erik Paulson if you like the cerebral style.
What an outstanding teacher I would pay anything to train with this guy.
Legend has is the guy in the back is wrapping his hands to this very day!
I been watching this guys vids back to back. The way he teaches is so captivating. It's hard to look away.
He back
guy in the back is having a hard time wrapping his hands lmao
Lmao I love when people notice funny things like this haha good one
And the two babes sitting on the bench in the back ?
Looks like Charlie Zelenoff or is it just me?
Yeah...he died...
I've been to 4 different boxing gyms and never heard it explained like this. Good teacher! 👍
I'm learning more from watching this video than I am from my current coach
+ManiacalLaughter21 This is your coach. How dare your ass say that about me, boy??!!
There is no better Coach than Erik Paulson and his staff,.
ManiacalLaughter21 lol
@@christaylor7916 aww hell nawl lmfao 😂 🤣 💀
@ManiacalLaughter21, then get you a new coach.
Right on! Now this video is from 2012, and since that time we have seen the rise of excellent technical boxers with solid fundamentals: Vasil Lomachenko, Naoya Inoue, Genaddy Golovkin, and Artur Beterbiev. These boxers have the stance, the footwork, the angles - everything that makes boxing the beautiful art that it is meant to be.
Foot work is very important! That’s why I’m focusing on that the most! If you don’t have balance you don’t have shit 🤷🏾♂️
Wow, after many years of MMA training, this is still mind-blowing. Respect!!!!
Anyone know who this guy is, or where his gym is located? This is the kind of coach I would like to find.
He's located in my room on my bed😍😍
@@lasvegascream1799 Lmao.
RFinkle2 Fullerton California
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Marvin Cook
I'm 70 years old and benefitted from some top-notch professional trainers in my life. Marvin is an excellent trainer and I'm impressed. Great communicator and demonstrator great job Mr. Cook.
This guy seems like a great boxing coach, id train at his gym
Marvin Cook is a brilliant scholar of boxing
Incredible… coach was talking about Wilder V Fury 10 years ago! Perfectly describing Wilder and his power over technique style. Got found out didn’t he!
Thanks Marvin. I learned something that probably contributed to me being a mediocre fighter because I didn’t know it back in the day. (I’m 63 by the way!)
Wow
You are great & I Appreciate You
& your knowledge of passing passion
Fantastic instructor, I can sense the love & knowledge, keep it up.
Thanks for preaching the correct way. It's not easy to find coaches like this man today, not many true boxing gyms are out there. The world is full of kick boxing, muay thai and mma schools, they get people in by the masses, most of them end just hitting the bag or just each other with no benefit. Boxing is the base,the footwork, balance, agility, body movement that boxing teaches you cannot be found in any other martial art.
Fine speech. That's why Floyd Mayweather is undefeated !
+Roy Mustang yup and thats why andre ward cant be beat either
+James Toney until he meets Kovalev
naw wards gonna out smart kovalev, kovalev has too much respect for ward i can see it already
James Toney ward scared of Kovalev
what the hell are you talking about ward agreed to fight kovalev before he even moved up dummy ggg was scared of ward ward has the balls to move up n take on the baddest guy in the division ward and his trainer preach learning footwork before learning hands student of the game
Dang, this dude explains stuff in a more motivating and easier way than I've ever heard. Subscribed.
This just became one of the best videos ive ever seen. Great teaching my brotha, I subscribed
This is gold. Learnt more in these 8minutes than a week of boxing classes.
Sounds like Floyd Mayweather to me...... but simple fans will never admit he was a boxing genius.
A running genius
@@guillermococofrito9196 😂
Excellent instruction! I particularly had a lightbulb moment with his "turn at the hips" explanation. Thank you .
Respect to the Asian guy in the Bruce Lee, T Shirt.
Why
@@snekktikhays1780 cos he's Asian
Really can't thank you enough for these videos. I recently joined a boxing gym with 0 knowledge on the sport and from day 1 it seemed more like a boxing workout than actual training. For example first day of class I was already hitting the heavy bag and doing 1-2 combos on the mitts!!! I had no idea how to punch, no idea how to stand, these fuckers didn't even help me with the hand wrap. Two of my friends joined a week prior to me and were sparring already but the difference is they can punch hard and wrestled D1 in college so I guess the 'trainers' feel they are athletic enough to compete. I started looking for help elsewhere and this channel has by far been the most helpful as Marvin's ability to teach mechanics+area of focus+theory allows the student to see the big picture which changed my mindset of boxing from "throw a punch and hope it connects" to chess. THANK YOU
7:23 beautiful piece of knowledge right there
I think anyone can appreciate the way this trainer talks when he teaches, gotta love coaches that got game, makes u wanna listen closer
You sound like you might actually be a good teacher.
Keep that up please!
And ...
Thank you for your knowledge.
This guy knows boxing and loves it. Great teacher !
Mike Tyson had a very square stance.
The sideways stance is vulnerable to leg kicks. There is a reason why Muay Thai fighters stand square.
The square stance is also compatible with wrestling/grappling.
IMO, Mike Tyson's peek a boo style is the most compatible style of boxing in MMA. The ducking and weaving is compatible with going for the takedown. Just don't bob sideways too much...
You dont want to be too square have variation.
tai fighters usually take a lot of punishment as well
They take a lot of punishemnt beacuse they don't move a lot but they can deal with with kicks,knees and elbows better than this idiot who teaches
+Dizni That's why I think Boxing Is better than Muay thai. I feel like if you were to use Muay thai In the streets, there's a more chance of you taking more damage to your body than if you were to use boxing. Muay thai rely too much on the size of gloves. They don't slip, duck, Bob to side, shoulder roll, create angles ect. I feel like Muay thai just lacks the fundamentals on fighting. Without proper fundamentals, no matter how much Weapons you have, you won't survive long In the octagon or the streets.
Boxing is no way better than muay thai overall. I feel like knife would beat both boxing and muay thai in the streets.
A master at work- and a superb teacher to boot!
This guy knows what its all about for sure, I feel that punching from a balanced position and staying balanced is key to winning fights
That is hands down the best beginners level boxing instructions I've ever witnessed!
He's got to be a fan of Usyk and Lomachenko 💪
Will P Russians rule! America has turned into commie weakling SJW land.
@@duckydarkstar38 looks like someone is scared shitless
@@Deathdrummer195 scared of what ? A generation of cucks 😂😂🤣
Ducky Darkstar lonachenko is one of the best to ever do it, I couldn’t care less about who’s fought who, Loma is on another level,
Marvin is a GURU !!! Great applicator of his words so much we learn or not learn is. dependant upon the teachers speech to visual talent and hes got it all
For the people saying that this stance is bad for low kicks (or kicks in general), yeah it is true, but you can try to combine muay thai/kick boxing stance with the "true" boxing stance. Tj Dillashaw, Dominick Cruz are both great exemples.
bas rutten stands square as well
Look where he stands ,. He's not eating any leg kicks ,. He's measured his distance,. As soon as you load up he is coming straight down the pipe, ko
Amazing explanation. Excellent teacher right here. Thank you for reinforcing this.
Just looked at your profile, and its a damn shame you are not uploading anymore.
two words: george foreman. of course punching power matters. if it didnt he never wouldve been champ once let alone twice. having said that, if he was a better boxer and had proper footwork and defence he probably never wouldve been beat
Ethan Ciantar Muhammad Ali beat him? With footwork, and he had good fundamentals anyway he was a good boxer regardless of his gift
Foreman had great footwork but an unorthadox style though
Power alone didn't make Foreman champ. It helps, sure, but he had an actual method and style to bring it out.
George Foreman was a great boxer , if all he had was punching power then he would've been an average contender
Both Foreman and Ali had superb balance. Thats part of why Big George hit so hard
Some of the best tutoring I have seen with a simple understanding of what seems very complex at times thank you for this video brother
Boxing is the most important martial art, it's the bread and butter of mma. Look how successful mcgregor has been just because of boxing ability.
Sanjeev patel Mcgregor is a terrible boxer haha and now there’s people in MMA who actually train Boxing and are way better boxers than him even Khabib being a wrestler outboxed him
@@joaquinflores3547 😂 oh please.
ThisFoo Memes that’s why he retired even Khabib beat him at stand up
@@joaquinflores3547 Wow khabib knocked him down with a wild overhand while Conor was expecting the single leg so he try to sprawl and got hit and intently recovered. Any other moments where you think khabib "outboxed".
Kirk Landau I practice boxing my friend Connor does not box better than a boxer plus Khabib did outclassed him because he was more patient and landed cleaner shoots actually the both of them are not good boxers but Khabib was the better striker in that fight
I love when people show how you do it wrong and good, cuz i have that same problem when turning not going into boxing stance.
03:00 about boxing stance
This was probably the first time I really felt that this wasn't necessary.. The build up to the actual demonstration was worth it..
Nice
We need more trainers like this who understands and never leaves out the true fundamentals of boxing who goes deep into the core and breaks it down to help fighters grow and become better.
The most un-ownable dude in my gym has perfect balance at all times. I work with him whenever I can but I hate him.
It makes more sense when I see him actually demonstrate it, looks so natural to him
who the fuck just walks into a gym, goes up to one of the coaches and basically says im not going to listen to anything u say? thats just beyond disrespectful.
where did that happen
RENE HERNANDEZ thats wat the guy in the video said. he says that mma fighters and wrestlers come into his gym and tell him that they're not going to listen to wat he tells them because they have they're own thing going.
+Patrick Quinn The coach in this video is Marvin Cook, and that place where teaches is not his gym. That gym belongs to the Eric Paulson. He not part of the MMA classes, he's independent. He only does private Boxing lessons for now.
They are right. His stance fucks your game up
Boxing is almost like dancing. It’s much more than just punching. That’s part of the reason as to why it’s such a beautiful sport. This man knows what he’s talking about. Great video!
I agree with cardiomanify...... If you stand like that all the time you're going to eat a hell of a lot of leg kicks. You can't be so absolute, every stance has pros and cons which means in some situations it will not work.... You have to adapt to the situation. There's no such thing as one stands for everything.
I think the clue here is "true boxer's stance". He is talking about pure boxing, for competition in boxing.
Hes teaching boxing dipshit
Wow🙄🙄
Thank you, Sir! I 100% agree and believe what you said and teaching. You are a great teacher! shalom.
to be the best boxer is dont eat ice crema learn to dance and be ncie to your parents,
Gerry Buckets fought Canelo on neutral grounds I presume?
I went to my free class yesterday i have no experience with boxing or fighting for that matter and this is exactly what I learned there thanks for the instruction
Can you open a gym in the Carolinas 😣😔😧🙏🏾
This guy is a genius and explains things so simply but effectively
That's how come paquiao moves the way he dose he reminds me of Bruce lee
Brilliant. I have spent a lot of time on thinking about how movement "opens people up" or "get(ting) angles". One of the most fundamentally difficult things to wrap your head around and work in practice. Thank you for this.
Man, this dude totally has me pegged. I hit someone with a left hook one day in the ring and knocked them out cold... I basically ruined my boxing technique after that. I totally fell in love with my power, after 5 stoppages in amateur boxing and Im only 5'4 125lbs. Then one day I was asked to spar a girl, reluctantly I did so... and HOE LYYY shit, she beat the CRRRAP out of me so bad! It felt like I was "sparring" at least 2 of her. I couldn't hit her for nothing. If I even thought about hitting her my head would suddenly get snapped back out of no where and *Bamn* she was gone. Great lesson learned. I'm glad it happened. She wasn't faster than me, she just had WAAY better foot work, and a much better idea of what actual boxing was, hit and don't get hit. Where as I had eventually development this retarded willingness to eat 3 of your shots just so I could land 1 of mine.
Listen to this man people!
Justin Lelbach nice hearing this, a true fighter learns from his mistakes
that turning from the hips instead of turning from your shoulders part did wonders for me. Something that never occurred to me.
Who else agree with the guy lyk if you agree
Six years ago and this vid still speaks truth, kudos
Hahahaha these mma dudes think they can criticize boxing and all they mostly know is wrestling/bjj hahahhaha
Been practicing this stance for the past 2 years,still the hardest style period.
It's beautiful when I spar and have my opponent in the line of fire because I can see their back foot.
Thanks Shujin Marvin!
who's watching this in 2019
Very good,thanks for showing us your fighting intellect.Every gym needs a teacher like this dude.
This is great until a Jose Aldo type comes by and kicks that front leg. Don't get me wrong I really like what he said as far as philosophy goes. Mma stance has to consider kicks.
Lucas Hills But this is boxing
Henrique Braga dos Santos I'm pretty sure he's talking to an mma team. If not then my comment is irrelevant and I misunderstood.
you are very prone to leg kicks in this stance and its not a very good stance to check kicks, but for mobility its actually one of the best in my opinion.
Also you can just teep the person if they come in with a leg kick with no boxing setup or just backstep. Its rather easy, just watch saenchai and other muaythai/k1 fighters backstepping. Get use to backstepping until it becomes second nature.
oJose oh I see what you're saying. Thanks !
I see the same problem, I'm focusing on boxing right now and the stance is very different from Muay Thai that I used to practice, so I'm trying to find my perfect balanced stance between the two.
Lot of peeps saying oh it's all basics, if u haven't got basics u haven't got a thing. Good video. Peeps have to remember we were all novices at least once. Good teaching. Ta.
he's got good strategy advice. but the actual stance he taught was wrong lol, your feet should not be on the same line (rear foot behind front foot)
In what second he did that?
anonomos Why not? If you got the balance, you can do it. I use TBS, and I have no problem with it.