Feynman’s Integration Technique is Overpowered…

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  • In this video I use maths / the internets most favourite integration technique known as Feynman’s technique or differentiation under the integral sign to evaluate a difficult integral of sins / x from zero to infinity.
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  • @MegaSARITE
    @MegaSARITE 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    We could use the Laplace transform after introducing Feynman's technic I'(a)= - L(sin(bt))=-b/(a^2 +b^2) , with b=1, we can easily reach the solution faster.

  • @AbouTaim-Lille
    @AbouTaim-Lille 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sin x = 1/1! x - 1/3! x³ + 1/5! x⁵ - ....
    So sin x /x = 1/1! - 1/3! x² + 1/5! x⁴ - ....
    And the I tergal is just :
    ∫ Sin x/x . dx = 1/1! x - 1/3! x³/3 + 1/5! x⁵/5 - .... + (-1)^n 1/n!. x^n /n +...
    You can also integrate many functions including the naughty function f(x)= e^x² which is otherwise does not have an explicit formula of integral. Off course with a condition of being an analytic function.

  • @skilz8098
    @skilz8098 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Integral of sin(x) / x dx from 0 to infinity is a classic.
    Here's an algebraic approach. It does extend into the patterns of series, binomial theorem - identities, as well as the complex plane:
    This may not be a complete proof or solution, but it illustrates the point.
    I find this to be another decent approach towards evaluating or trying to solve it.
    Setup and a few basic common principles: Not all of them may be directly used but are good and useful to keep in mind.
    Slope-Intercept form of a line y = mx + b.
    Slope formula: m = (y2-y1)/(x2-x1) = deltaY/deltaX = sin(t)/cos(t) = tan(t) where t is the angle theta between the line y = mx+b and the +x-axis.
    Initial Conditions: m = 1, b = 0.
    Constraints: b will always be 0.
    Simplification: y = 1*x + 0 y = x.
    Substitutions: y = mx == y = sin(t)/cos(t) * x == x * tan(t).
    We can write this as sin(t) / t. The thing to recognize here is that the integration here is in relation to the angle, as opposed to the x - dx form.
    We know that 90 degrees or PI/2 radians is a Right Angle. We know that, multiplying by the imaginary unit i vector has the same exact effect of rotating by 90 degrees and by multiplying any value by i^(4*N) where N is an +Integer is the same as multiplying by 1 since it rotates it by 360 degrees or 2PI radians.
    Taking the graph of this function and looking for the area under the curve can be broken down into intervals based on the properties and relationships between PI/2 and i within the context of the summation of their series that converges to PI/2 or 90 Degrees.
    The Series: n=0 |--> +infinity of: (2n)!! / (2n+1)!! * (1/2)^n = PI/2
    The double factorial (!!) is define by 0!! = 1!! and n!! = n(n-2)!!
    Then: f(t) = Series: n=0 |--> +infinity of: (-1)^n / (2n+1) * t^n
    Note that f(1) = PI/4. We can take the Euler Transform of the series:
    1/(1-t) * f( t / (1-t) = OuterSum: n=0 |--> +infinity { InnerSum: k=0 |-->n ( n : choose k) ( -1)^k / (2k + 1) } * t^n
    Then:
    Sum: k = 0 |--> n (n: choose k) (-1)^k/(2k+1) = (2n)!! / (2n + 1)!!
    Proving the above just refer to proving a binomial sum identity.
    We can see that:
    The Integral from 0 to infinity of Sin(x)/x dx is equal to:
    The Series: n=0 |--> +infinity {(2n)!!/(2n+1)!!}*(1/2)^n = PI/2.
    Forgive me if there's any typos in the math... "Y.T." isn't very friendly with their parsing of comments.
    Here's a link for the above Series: math.stackexchange.com/a/14116/405427

    • @Jagoalexander
      @Jagoalexander  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely brilliant

  • @jmcsquared18
    @jmcsquared18 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I wanted to stress test Feynman's method, so I used sin(ax) instead of introducing exp(-ax). What happens is, you get the integral of cos(ax) over [0,∞) which is undefined. But if you regularize it by introducing the regulator exp(-tx), then solve that equation, you find the regularized integral is atan(a/t) which goes to 𝜋/2 for all a>0.
    That regularization is basically the exact thing you did right from the beginning, just with an extra step. So, it seems introducing exp(-ax) is the "canonically correct" way to use Feynman's method here.
    Still feels kinda interesting to me two different choices for where to put the Feynman parameter end up giving similar results, if you grant the use of regularizing divergent terms as a tool.

    • @oa7598
      @oa7598 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      is the function you used exp(-ax) just e^(-ax)? i've seen it used before but couldn't find what it was but when i did this same method i used e^(-ax) and got the same thing

    • @Tom-qz8xw
      @Tom-qz8xw 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes exp(x) is e^x

  • @robert-skibelo
    @robert-skibelo 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Interesting. My first time here. I look forward to more.

  • @abhijit5290
    @abhijit5290 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wonderfully explained. Loved It!

  • @shaiyanraquibchowdhury7466
    @shaiyanraquibchowdhury7466 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Loved the explanation

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    @SampleroftheMultiverse 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

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  • @DarkBidhan
    @DarkBidhan 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wow. That’s a great video.

  • @Him543
    @Him543 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you bro loved it

  • @randvar2952
    @randvar2952 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I think this is a two-part trick method. First trick part comes from the need to “temperate” the integrand, which is swinging wildly. (Btw, we need to state, right off the bat, that a is positive.) This way we get a function, the temperated integrand, whose integral on [0,infinity) is finite. The second trick part is to use differentiation (under integral) wrt the parameter of the “temperator”.

  • @ebold9175
    @ebold9175 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I was upset about the dx until you fixed it! I found this derivation in high school, and loved it, and only now as an undergrad can I appreciate this technique's similarity to the Laplace or Fourier transform.

  • @lastchance8142
    @lastchance8142 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    You know a guy is genius when he invents a new way to integrate!

    • @jadynhasstupid2275
      @jadynhasstupid2275 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What’s funny is Feynman had an average IQ the guy just developed extraordinary thinking techniques. So it’s possible for you and I as well!

    • @98danielray
      @98danielray 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      he popularized it, clearly not invented. would not be surprised if even Euler used it

  • @shreebhattacharjee3502
    @shreebhattacharjee3502 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the bow

  • @spencergee6948
    @spencergee6948 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was always taught , in the absence of x or ln, that e would be chosen as u in integration by parts. But it gives the same result.

  • @whilewecan
    @whilewecan 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wonderful.

  • @jongraham7362
    @jongraham7362 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very cool.

  • @protopkicker99
    @protopkicker99 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Solved easily with Laplace transform

  • @yvesdelombaerde5909
    @yvesdelombaerde5909 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the « in the a world »

  • @oldjoec3710
    @oldjoec3710 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    a=0 has a problem. At 6:50, you show 1/a as a factor in the formula. So, if you repeat all the steps with "a" having a fixed value of zero, the whole thing breaks down at that formula..

    • @Jagoalexander
      @Jagoalexander  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      A can be any number you choose, however when we go ahead and say a=0 is our integral, it’s more the limit as a-> 0. You’re right it could not be a=0 it should be a limit, sorry if I didn’t make that clear.

  • @rusty-neko
    @rusty-neko 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what app is this?? the one u are writing on??

    • @Jagoalexander
      @Jagoalexander  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Goodnotes on IOS on my ipad

  • @giorgibliadze1151
    @giorgibliadze1151 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thaks a lot, however , I lost you at 17:39, integral of 0 is not 0, is it? Its some contstant.

    • @abhijit5290
      @abhijit5290 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Actually not. There he tried to find the values when 'a' approaches infinity. Then the Left side of the equation would result into zero while the right side would be -π/2 + c. That just gives us the equation c -π/2 = 0 or c = π/2. Zero is just equal to zero and he has actually integrated zero as zero.

    • @giorgibliadze1151
      @giorgibliadze1151 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, All I know is that int of 0 is constant as diff of constant is zero.

    • @abhijit5290
      @abhijit5290 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@giorgibliadze1151 Yes, you’re right that the integral of 0 is a constant. When dealing with definite integrals, like the one in the video, we evaluate the integral over a specific range. This process gives a specific value, so we don’t need to add a constant. It’s similar to differentiation: when you differentiate a function at a specific point, you get a single value, not a function

  • @user-ec8wc4cq6l
    @user-ec8wc4cq6l 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love obi wan teaching me calculus!

  • @galveston8929
    @galveston8929 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Feynman Technique" is TH-cam's favorite moniker for "The method of integration by-parts". Just open up any elementary calculus book written before Feynman was born.

    • @Cow.cool.
      @Cow.cool. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      incorrect, this is a different technique involving the introduction of a completely new variable

    • @galveston8929
      @galveston8929 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Cow.cool. again this "trick" was known way before Feyman. Only physics enthusiasts with insufficient math background would refer to it as "Feynman technique", Feynman himself never claimed over such a thing. Some Feyman's pupils may have referred to it as Feyman's teqnique because they did not see this method prior to taking Feynman's lecture. He's a great scientist and had great contributions to the field of QFT, but this is not his "technique".

  • @shivx3295
    @shivx3295 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You took so much time in just applying by parts your way of doing is such a waste of time

    • @Jagoalexander
      @Jagoalexander  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Who asked

    • @robert-skibelo
      @robert-skibelo 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Vulgar abuse contributes nothing to the discussion. If you can't make a useful contribution please refrain from antisocial comments.

    • @shreebbbbbbbb
      @shreebbbbbbbb 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      well how do you do it then genius

    • @skilz8098
      @skilz8098 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You might consider it to be a waste of time, but the presenter of this video didn't...
      Kudos: respect and appreciation to the Content Creator!

    • @latiku8551
      @latiku8551 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@robert-skibeloit’s his video…….if you don’t like it, scroll away you fossil 🦖