My full FreeDos looks completely different for fDimples. There is no Fed. On the left is just an "Installed" At the bottom when I select anything on the right it says, "Package (program name ) not found under..."
Check that your CDROM is still "loaded" after you install. What you've described sounds familiar when the CDROM isn't there. I'd guess you used Virtualbox to install FreeDOS, and Virtualbox probably "disconnected" the FreeDOS CDROM. Just go into the settings for your FreeDOS Virtalbox and "reconnect" the CDROM. You should be fine.
I personally would love to know if it’s possible to get sound support on a Windows Vista era machine. I wiped it clean with FreeDOS, and I bought three different models of Creative Soundblaster PCI cards to no success (the integrated Intel HDA is absolutely unsupported, we know that.) I just want to play my old games on a native OS so badly. I don’t like using Dosbox on another OS.
I just recorded a video about how to get sound to work in FreeDOS. Stay tuned! I'll post it soon. (Videos always go live first for Patreon supporters.)
DOS programs are pretty straightforward. For most programs, you just unzip the program into whatever directory you need (most don't even care what you call the directory; they figure out the path on their own to read any program files). For example, if you want to install VisiCalc, just download the VC program and save it anywhere (like C:\VISICALC or even C:\VC). Some programs have a SETUP or INSTALL program that you need to run first, so check for that. For example, to install Doom, you unzip the installer, then you run the Install program to actually install it. The Install program will let you decide the path to install to.
I'm relatively new to DOS but playing around with the installation I'm getting used to navigating to the flies. Question is, how does one know the path to certain files? For example if I wanted to play "FMINES" how would I know what directory that is in?
You can see in the video at about 2:28 that FDIMPLES shows the files that are installed. Most programs will get installed under C:\FDOS, so add that to the start of the path.
It makes the most sense to run FDIMPLES from the installed FreeDOS on your hard drive. FDIMPLES is the package manager to install (and remove) packages.
How do you tell it to read a different disk? I'm using VirtualBox and fdimples works fine with the live disk image, but if I mount the bonus disk, fdimples doesn't see it and only shows installed packages. This is 1.3rc5 btw.
Yes, there was a bug in RC5 that FDIMPLES doesn't see the Bonus CD. This has been fixed in dev, and will be fixed in FreeDOS 1.3 "final." Here's what Jerome [who's working on RC5] said about it: "With all the recent and last minute changes, I completely forgot to make sure FDIMPLES worked with the BonusCD prior to releasing RC5. Not that it matters. But basically, changes to that CD caused it to drift slightly out of compliance to how FDIMPLES identifies local package sources." You can download an updated FDIMPLES from the link below, or wait until 1.3 "final." Here's the link to the new FDIMPLES: www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/latest/pkg-html/fdimples.html
It seems I installed the minimal way. When I load FDimples, I can only see the pckages that have been installed. What is the best way to do a total full install on this system? Thanks
First, double check that you have the FreeDOS install CD loaded. If you're running FreeDOS in a virtual machine, it may have disconnected the install CD after installing. If you have the install CD loaded, running FDIMPLES should show the packages to install. But on FreeDOS 1.2, if you installed a minimal "Base" FreeDOS system, you can't install other packages using FDIMPLES. This was an oversight that was fixed in the FreeDOS 1.3 release candidates. You can either re-install with "Full" (if you don't mind backing up + restoring your current system) or you can manually unzip the packages that are on the install CD. All the FreeDOS "packages" are really just Zip files, so you can unzip them and run them. All DOS programs are "statically" linked so you don't have to worry about where you install them to run them. Path doesn't matter, as long as you can unzip the package file somewhere.
The idea of a package manager is nice, but the current version of FDIMPLES leaves some things to be desired when it comes to packages that live outside of the FDOS\bin directory. For example, if you install some of the development tools, no paths are updated in FDAUTO.BAT to support them, and no instructions are provided as to what needs to be done. In the case of DJGPP, you need to set up a path and an environment variable to get it to work - the only reason I know that is because I use DJGPP for my own development. Even if FDIMPLES just deposited a text document at the root of the drive after installing packages that says 'do these things to get your packages configured and on the PATH' would be a huge help for getting some of the trickier packages configured.
QUESTION AND SOLUTION: QUESTION:Hi Sir, i'm a GNU Linux user since long time ago, trying freedos this days, when execute FDIMPLES i see at left the word [x]INSTALLED instead of software by category. please teach me how to see software by category. ty SOLUTION: WAS MY FAULT, FORGOT TO PLUG MY USB INSTALLER, YOU MUST HAVE (CONNECTED/MOUNTED) THE (CD-ROM/USB) SOURCE INSTALLER TO BE ABLE TO SEE SOFTWARE BY CATEGORY.
Can you install programs directly using fdimples without using the interface? Like on Debian you can do: apt install pico, can you do something like: fdimples install pico?
FDIMPLES is a friendly text-mode user interface to FDINST, which actually does the installation. So you can't do FDIMPLES INSTALL ___ but you can do FDINST INSTALL ___ and FDINST REMOVE ___.
@@gnarlin4964 Yes, you can specify several packages to install/uninstall at one time. Works great. I show that in the FDIMPLES video. Skip ahead to about 4:20 in the video to see me uninstall PICO and 4DOS.
@@gnarlin4964 DOS doesn't have the same dependency resolution requirements as Linux (which has shared libraries, etc). A few packages do depend on each other, but in general most DOS packages are standalone and you can install/uninstall a package without worrying about others. The FreeDOS package structure doesn't have dependency resolution built into it.
This is recurring question. Although it's more about VM and apps on a host system than FreeDOS itself but a video could help newcomers to use their own files.
This will depend on the PC emulator or virtual machine. For example, I use QEMU, and there's an option in QEMU to share a folder on the host system as a virtual FAT drive in the guest. So that's how I transfer files to/from my FreeDOS VM. There's probably something similar in whatever VM you use.
a mi no me aparecen esos paquetes para instalar, recién descargue e instalé FreDOS pero lo quiero para programar en C, pero no tengo esos paquetes y no se como agregarlos ayuda
If you don't see the packages (you might see a message like "INSTALLED" instead) then that means you don't have the FreeDOS LiveCD in your computer. If you are using a virtual machine like Virtualbox, note that sometimes these virtual machine systems will sometimes "disconnect" the install media after you've installed it. So you probably need to edit your virtual machine configuration to use the FreeDOS LiveCD ISO file again. That should fix it.
Not surprising, since nano was originally created as a clone of pico (hence the riff on the name .. although PiCo was originally the "Pine Composer" for the Pine email program.)
Amazing project
Glad you like it! ☺
My full FreeDos looks completely different for fDimples. There is no Fed. On the left is just an "Installed" At the bottom when I select anything on the right it says, "Package (program name ) not found under..."
Check that your CDROM is still "loaded" after you install. What you've described sounds familiar when the CDROM isn't there. I'd guess you used Virtualbox to install FreeDOS, and Virtualbox probably "disconnected" the FreeDOS CDROM. Just go into the settings for your FreeDOS Virtalbox and "reconnect" the CDROM. You should be fine.
PICO....
**BOKU NO FLASHBACKS INTENSIFIES**
I personally would love to know if it’s possible to get sound support on a Windows Vista era machine. I wiped it clean with FreeDOS, and I bought three different models of Creative Soundblaster PCI cards to no success (the integrated Intel HDA is absolutely unsupported, we know that.) I just want to play my old games on a native OS so badly. I don’t like using Dosbox on another OS.
I just recorded a video about how to get sound to work in FreeDOS. Stay tuned! I'll post it soon. (Videos always go live first for Patreon supporters.)
Oh cielos, interesante :o
All your answers to installing programs respond with installing packages. How do I install non-packaged programs and program suites?
DOS programs are pretty straightforward. For most programs, you just unzip the program into whatever directory you need (most don't even care what you call the directory; they figure out the path on their own to read any program files). For example, if you want to install VisiCalc, just download the VC program and save it anywhere (like C:\VISICALC or even C:\VC).
Some programs have a SETUP or INSTALL program that you need to run first, so check for that. For example, to install Doom, you unzip the installer, then you run the Install program to actually install it. The Install program will let you decide the path to install to.
I'm relatively new to DOS but playing around with the installation I'm getting used to navigating to the flies. Question is, how does one know the path to certain files? For example if I wanted to play "FMINES" how would I know what directory that is in?
You can see in the video at about 2:28 that FDIMPLES shows the files that are installed. Most programs will get installed under C:\FDOS, so add that to the start of the path.
Is FDIMPLES and the installers on your hard drive or the install media?
It makes the most sense to run FDIMPLES from the installed FreeDOS on your hard drive. FDIMPLES is the package manager to install (and remove) packages.
How do you tell it to read a different disk? I'm using VirtualBox and fdimples works fine with the live disk image, but if I mount the bonus disk, fdimples doesn't see it and only shows installed packages. This is 1.3rc5 btw.
Yes, there was a bug in RC5 that FDIMPLES doesn't see the Bonus CD. This has been fixed in dev, and will be fixed in FreeDOS 1.3 "final."
Here's what Jerome [who's working on RC5] said about it: "With all the recent and last minute changes, I completely forgot to make sure FDIMPLES worked with the BonusCD prior to releasing RC5. Not that it matters. But basically, changes to that CD caused it to drift slightly out of compliance to how FDIMPLES identifies local package sources." You can download an updated FDIMPLES from the link below, or wait until 1.3 "final."
Here's the link to the new FDIMPLES:
www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/latest/pkg-html/fdimples.html
damn i get "custom dir 'links' is not a valid absolute path!" during install
same
same
found a solution yet?
@@oscwavcommentaccount hahaha no i didnt, i gave up XD
It seems I installed the minimal way. When I load FDimples, I can only see the pckages that have been installed. What is the best way to do a total full install on this system? Thanks
First, double check that you have the FreeDOS install CD loaded. If you're running FreeDOS in a virtual machine, it may have disconnected the install CD after installing. If you have the install CD loaded, running FDIMPLES should show the packages to install.
But on FreeDOS 1.2, if you installed a minimal "Base" FreeDOS system, you can't install other packages using FDIMPLES. This was an oversight that was fixed in the FreeDOS 1.3 release candidates.
You can either re-install with "Full" (if you don't mind backing up + restoring your current system) or you can manually unzip the packages that are on the install CD. All the FreeDOS "packages" are really just Zip files, so you can unzip them and run them. All DOS programs are "statically" linked so you don't have to worry about where you install them to run them. Path doesn't matter, as long as you can unzip the package file somewhere.
The idea of a package manager is nice, but the current version of FDIMPLES leaves some things to be desired when it comes to packages that live outside of the FDOS\bin directory. For example, if you install some of the development tools, no paths are updated in FDAUTO.BAT to support them, and no instructions are provided as to what needs to be done. In the case of DJGPP, you need to set up a path and an environment variable to get it to work - the only reason I know that is because I use DJGPP for my own development. Even if FDIMPLES just deposited a text document at the root of the drive after installing packages that says 'do these things to get your packages configured and on the PATH' would be a huge help for getting some of the trickier packages configured.
very late, but there is the docs folder, where all the documents for that package live
QUESTION AND SOLUTION:
QUESTION:Hi Sir, i'm a GNU Linux user since long time ago, trying freedos this
days, when execute FDIMPLES i see at left the word [x]INSTALLED instead of software by category. please teach me how to see software by category. ty
SOLUTION: WAS MY FAULT, FORGOT TO PLUG MY USB INSTALLER, YOU MUST HAVE
(CONNECTED/MOUNTED) THE (CD-ROM/USB) SOURCE INSTALLER TO BE ABLE TO SEE SOFTWARE BY CATEGORY.
Glad you fixed it! Gotta love the easy solutions. :-)
For some reason I just can't type command from any directory
Can you install programs directly using fdimples without using the interface? Like on Debian you can do: apt install pico, can you do something like: fdimples install pico?
FDIMPLES is a friendly text-mode user interface to FDINST, which actually does the installation. So you can't do FDIMPLES INSTALL ___ but you can do FDINST INSTALL ___ and FDINST REMOVE ___.
@@freedosproject Neato. Can I specify many packages one after the other? Does FDINST do dependency resolution?
@@gnarlin4964 Yes, you can specify several packages to install/uninstall at one time. Works great. I show that in the FDIMPLES video. Skip ahead to about 4:20 in the video to see me uninstall PICO and 4DOS.
@@gnarlin4964 DOS doesn't have the same dependency resolution requirements as Linux (which has shared libraries, etc). A few packages do depend on each other, but in general most DOS packages are standalone and you can install/uninstall a package without worrying about others.
The FreeDOS package structure doesn't have dependency resolution built into it.
How come no DOS Navigator
We have a DOS Navigator program in FreeDOS, called DN2. I did a video about it when I started the channel: th-cam.com/video/N6Vyr52eiw4/w-d-xo.html
was FDIMPLES created with DFlat?
No, FDIMPLES was not. It implements its own screen display (written in Pascal, BTW).
Is there an ssh client available for FreeDOS?
There is SSHDOS/SSH2DOS, which you can find in FDIMPLES under Networking.
@@freedosproject they unfortunatelly not support modern encryptions protocol
How to add a program I downloaded on the web, transfer it on a FreeDOS VM , and installing it. This is something I would like to know.
This is recurring question. Although it's more about VM and apps on a host system than FreeDOS itself but a video could help newcomers to use their own files.
This will depend on the PC emulator or virtual machine. For example, I use QEMU, and there's an option in QEMU to share a folder on the host system as a virtual FAT drive in the guest. So that's how I transfer files to/from my FreeDOS VM. There's probably something similar in whatever VM you use.
a mi no me aparecen esos paquetes para instalar, recién descargue e instalé FreDOS pero lo quiero para programar en C, pero no tengo esos paquetes y no se como agregarlos ayuda
como el DJGPP que utiliza en sus videos para programar, como los adquiero? y como hago mi entorno de desarrollo?
If you don't see the packages (you might see a message like "INSTALLED" instead) then that means you don't have the FreeDOS LiveCD in your computer. If you are using a virtual machine like Virtualbox, note that sometimes these virtual machine systems will sometimes "disconnect" the install media after you've installed it. So you probably need to edit your virtual machine configuration to use the FreeDOS LiveCD ISO file again. That should fix it.
You can install these from the install media. DJGPP is on the BonusCD. OpenWatcom is on the LiveCD and on the BonusCD (you can use either).
Pico editor is looking like linux nano
Not surprising, since nano was originally created as a clone of pico (hence the riff on the name .. although PiCo was originally the "Pine Composer" for the Pine email program.)
dont know why but my fdimples is a lil different from yours... imgur.com/NSG04Wd
no matter what i'll learn fdos!
but, plz, help me.
Looks like you don't have your FreeDOS install CD inserted. That, or you've only installed the Base version of FreeDOS.
@@freedosproject you're absolutely right! I placed the CD virtually and was able to view the rest of the applications. thank you!