Been watching quite a few of these videos and I gotta say I'm really liking it. Great camera angles and recoveries. Look forward to new videos. I thought about the same thing a few years back when I had my old 84 ford. Thanks for posting. Cheers
You should try a crossover steering setup, the stock push pull tends to be pretty hard on the frame. I put in a steering box brace to help out and it actually improved the feel of the steering with the truck sitting still.
They sell a reinforcement piece that you install on the outside of the frame and sandwich the frame between it and the box to prevent that from happening. It is made of 1/4 inch thick steel and will force your frame back into alignment when you tighten the bolts down but it would be a good idea to pull on the frame a little bit to help get the steel to its original shape. I was going to mention this upgrade when you were building the truck but thought that you just didn't bother addressing it because everyone knows to do that when they run big tires on the older GM"s. Oh well.
You really whacked the frame "outta whack"! If it were my truck, and I had a frame "outback"... I'd swap everything to the bare frame, unless it's the old frame from the broken wrecker. I look forward to watching the next few videos, to see how you fix it! Great video Eric!
This is educational. I hope you make videos on all the upgrades you list at the beginning. I don't know how you will straighten this out. A makeshift frame rack and heat? If you use heat, be careful about hardening the frame. It needs to retain some flexibility even there, I believe.
cut some 3/8 thick plate and weld on inside of frame on bottom and on the top and add a plate to inside of frame or some wide channel metal and put a piece of tubing across at very front of frame with plates added inside of frame also. that is what we did to strengthen frame.
Common problem on most trucks. You need to gusset the steering box if you don't want it to eventually fall off. If you straighten it now without reinforcement, you will get cracks later.
I would've never guessed that, but I also thought the frames were boxed up there. I don't know what braces they make for chevys, but I know for my CJ I put on one of those braces that anchors the pitman arm output on the steering box to the opposite frame rail. That combined with the stock cross bracing triangulates the box somewhat. Probably not helpful info, tho. The incident just has me reminiscing, that's all, lol.
straighten her up and build a good stiffener and then do atleast crossover if not full high steer. the cross over take a lot of stress off the steering box bolts and frame
get er damn close to stock, box the frame behindthe steering box. they also sell reinforcing plates as the drame cracking there is common. you can fine tune your steering by clocking the pitman arm on the output shaft if need be.
Have you ever seen anyone try a longer drag link to fix similar problems? I haven't done that on a GM frame, but my guess is that it might be okay for off-road use.
Time for another frame,.. it will never be the same. Im suprised you didnt beef up the steering box area from the start,.. on all square bodies, thats a standard thing to do. For those interested in nothing but squarebody builds/info, join my fb group Heartbeat of America (73-87).
HI Eric; I noticed the tire slung foot platform used in the video. What brand model, etc is that piece of equipment? Looks like something I need for my '97 F350 4x4, to be actually able to work under the hood. Thanks and keep up the great adventures! Skip
The one I have was a Hummer H1 accessory, but I have seen them for sale in tool catalogs. I think Harbor fright, or Northern tools has them, Jus be sure to get the large one for big tires.
cut off the section of frame you need that's laying out in the yard. use that section of frame as a pattern and overlay it to reinforce the frame is bent.
How hard did you bump the frozen bank? Isn't it more common for the frame to crack where you bent the frame. Sounds like you have a plan to fix it, have to wait till the next video.
If it was cracked it would be easy enough to weld it back up being bent now he's got to try get it close to factory specs. Have to see how he does it maybe using the heat and beat method.
I have seen this before those years of chevy trucks had such a chewing gum frame they made them weaker to get a better crash test rating! Anytime someone wants to use a chevy truck for 4x4 ing adding bigger tires it is always best to temper the frame to make it stronger or add 1/4 inch plate to add strength I have seen trucks with 44 inch tires and usually the gear box bolt holes break out of the frame.
I see the problem now - Its the BOWTIE on the hood :-P Pretty common old chevy weak frame. I seem to remember you building this truck because of a BROKEN FRAME. Next one, box the entire frame. The stocker is like a wet noodle otherwise.
Zacery Hammond lol, the big 3 are Ford, Chevy and Dodge. Toyota is new in the full size truck game in the US. Yeah...I grew up in Cleveland. probably more salt there than much of Canada.
Been watching quite a few of these videos and I gotta say I'm really liking it. Great camera angles and recoveries. Look forward to new videos. I thought about the same thing a few years back when I had my old 84 ford. Thanks for posting. Cheers
The tire step stair,man i love it .Never seen this.I will have to build one.Thanks for the idea.
obscur156 Google "tire step" Walmart , TSC and many other places sell them. They run $25~$30
Thanks budy
You should try a crossover steering setup, the stock push pull tends to be pretty hard on the frame. I put in a steering box brace to help out and it actually improved the feel of the steering with the truck sitting still.
Splimis no wonder u had to ur dumbass turns the wheele with ur truck sitting still :/ fuck
You've never had to turn your steering wheel with the truck idling at a stop to get out of weird/tight spots?
Yes, crossover steering is the way to go on these old Chevys.
They sell a reinforcement piece that you install on the outside of the frame and sandwich the frame between it and the box to prevent that from happening. It is made of 1/4 inch thick steel and will force your frame back into alignment when you tighten the bolts down but it would be a good idea to pull on the frame a little bit to help get the steel to its original shape. I was going to mention this upgrade when you were building the truck but thought that you just didn't bother addressing it because everyone knows to do that when they run big tires on the older GM"s. Oh well.
that step is prolly the smartest thing ive seen in a while
dat truck doh. This truck is impressive. The sierras are a wonderful base for a wrecker.
You really whacked the frame "outta whack"! If it were my truck, and I had a frame "outback"... I'd swap everything to the bare frame, unless it's the old frame from the broken wrecker. I look forward to watching the next few videos, to see how you fix it! Great video Eric!
Kickinpony.66. but you gotta remember he reinforced the frame so it wouldn't bend/brake at the cab bed area again
Yup. He should have boxed the entire frame..... See where shortcuts get ya???!!!???
good time to box the frame in front while it's apart.
This is educational. I hope you make videos on all the upgrades you list at the beginning. I don't know how you will straighten this out. A makeshift frame rack and heat? If you use heat, be careful about hardening the frame. It needs to retain some flexibility even there, I believe.
Thanks for the post keep up the good work
Good video! That tire stand was nice I gotta get me one of those.
glad you have an idea how to fix
Love the show !!!!!!!!!
they make a a reinforcement for those frames that can be bolted or fishplated on. they are known for being weak where the steering box mounts.
Jnl Jnl exactly near the frame horns is a known weak spot
i love your videos keep up the amazing work
cut some 3/8 thick plate and weld on inside of frame on bottom and on the top and add a plate to inside of frame or some wide channel metal and put a piece of tubing across at very front of frame with plates added inside of frame also. that is what we did to strengthen frame.
05:25 - I really like that tire-attachment platform for working on trucks. Did you guys build or buy that?
Thank you!
great video keep them coming
Common problem on most trucks. You need to gusset the steering box if you don't want it to eventually fall off. If you straighten it now without reinforcement, you will get cracks later.
Very common problem with Chevys. Not a common problem with Ford
I would've never guessed that, but I also thought the frames were boxed up there.
I don't know what braces they make for chevys, but I know for my CJ I put on one of those braces that anchors the pitman arm output on the steering box to the opposite frame rail. That combined with the stock cross bracing triangulates the box somewhat. Probably not helpful info, tho. The incident just has me reminiscing, that's all, lol.
straighten her up and build a good stiffener and then do atleast crossover if not full high steer. the cross over take a lot of stress off the steering box bolts and frame
get er damn close to stock, box the frame behindthe steering box. they also sell reinforcing plates as the drame cracking there is common. you can fine tune your steering by clocking the pitman arm on the output shaft if need be.
that's some good DAMAGE nice job.
i got a straight section from the wreckers and fish-plated it on, can't guess how ur gonna bend it back.
some cool tool and lots of heat, maybe.
I'm guessing bottle jack and a chain. I think ORD makes a good brace kit for them.
89nissancrawler , DIY braces are pretty simple on those frames. A bit of scrap steel and a few 7018 rods and it's better than new.
Have you ever seen anyone try a longer drag link to fix similar problems? I haven't done that on a GM frame, but my guess is that it might be okay for off-road use.
i like your tire step
Time for another frame,.. it will never be the same. Im suprised you didnt beef up the steering box area from the start,.. on all square bodies, thats a standard thing to do. For those interested in nothing but squarebody builds/info, join my fb group Heartbeat of America (73-87).
eric where is your video of you rebuilding the steering gear box??? im having trouble finding it but i know i watched it years ago
does diy4x make a brace for the steering box? I know it's a problem on the square body's.
Ohh hi there..to you too...
i think you should realy reinforce bolth sides of the frame in the front with half inch steel that will help you
I'd cut it heat it bend it weld it and then box it on both sides.
HI Eric; I noticed the tire slung foot platform used in the video. What brand model, etc is that piece of equipment? Looks like something I need for my '97 F350 4x4, to be actually able to work under the hood. Thanks and keep up the great adventures! Skip
The one I have was a Hummer H1 accessory, but I have seen them for sale in tool catalogs. I think Harbor fright, or Northern tools has them, Jus be sure to get the large one for big tires.
Thanks Eric! You're the man! Great videos and I have learned a lot about snatching vehicles. Keep up the great work.
Skip
you really hit that hard to do all that ? wow
that sir..is from hold it down with a dead aker.. there not strong enough to hold down ... when you fix it..plate it stronger
cut off the section of frame you need that's laying out in the yard. use that section of frame as a pattern and overlay it to reinforce the frame is bent.
Any updates?
Got to get cross over steering
I'd rather a bent but solid frame than having the steering box come off due to rust.
Smittybilt part # CC100 it says its for a 1/2 ton not sure if it would fit a 1 ton.
How hard did you bump the frozen bank? Isn't it more common for the frame to crack where you bent the frame. Sounds like you have a plan to fix it, have to wait till the next video.
Is it better that it bent rather than cracked? Probably.
If it was cracked it would be easy enough to weld it back up being bent now he's got to try get it close to factory specs. Have to see how he does it maybe using the heat and beat method.
What's up
Metal fatigue, my pal...
What does BSF stand for?
Jennslife09 I believe it stands for broke stuck & fucked
Broke, Stuck,Fu(censored)cked.
I have seen this before those years of chevy trucks had such a chewing gum frame they made them weaker to get a better crash test rating! Anytime someone wants to use a chevy truck for 4x4 ing adding bigger tires it is always best to temper the frame to make it stronger or add 1/4 inch plate to add strength I have seen trucks with 44 inch tires and usually the gear box bolt holes break out of the frame.
Call AUTHER TUSSIK here on the U - tube ,,, frame guy guru,, just saying lol
I see the problem now - Its the BOWTIE on the hood :-P Pretty common old chevy weak frame. I seem to remember you building this truck because of a BROKEN FRAME. Next one, box the entire frame. The stocker is like a wet noodle otherwise.
Lol, I think all 3 makes probably have similar problems. I had the same exact issue with my Dodge.
Nicholas Smerk all three did for years and years.
Nicholas Smerk na Toyota got it boxed from factory problem is in Canada dam things rust out before u even have to rebuild the moter
Zacery Hammond lol, the big 3 are Ford, Chevy and Dodge. Toyota is new in the full size truck game in the US. Yeah...I grew up in Cleveland. probably more salt there than much of Canada.
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baba booey
I think you need a bigger truck
isent that the second frame you fucked up? perhaps its time to do like the lowriders do to their frames and wrap on all sides 3/16 and 1/4 plate
you guys really need a Ford. stop dealing with these junk Chevy frames lol
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