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Why don’t we use social spiders to farm spider silk??? I can hypothesize reasons (their web material is the wrong kind, it’s too messy, they don’t do well in captivity) but I haven’t been able to find an actual answer and I’ve been wondering this for YEARS. Hypotheses are great, but…guys…this would be a great video. You can talk about the uses of spider silk and explore weird spider facts and talk to spider experts. PLEASE.
I remember having seen an old US movie that had some species of tarantulas skyrocket in population density in some rural region, killing some farm animals and humans in the process and eventually having the surviving main characters trapped inside the basement of a house, with the entire surrounding landscape being covered in webs and nests of those tarantulas. That ending image of the movie was quite terrifying, even if I thought "yeah completely unrealistic, already just on the basis of spiders not being social animals but solitary or even cannibalistic"... oh well, so much about that...
Tarantula keepers are aware that spiders can have very different personalities. I have a super shy one and a very skittish one. The shy one always hides while the skittish one flies back into her web the moment her enclosure moves
Yeah, see enough spiders, and you can certainly tell they have varying personalities. Though I suppose some types do tend toward some personalities more then others, it seems. But I've ran into things like hyper aggressive black widows, who would quite literally run OUT of their web to present their fangs at you, despite being only inches away from your shoe that could easily crush them (note: I did not kill said spider either). To widows that were docile enough they would quite comfortably just sit around in your hand/on your arm for hours without fuss. Wolf spiders of just about every demeanor as well. I think my favorite, though, are the inquisitive and curious jumpers. It's so hard NOT to imagine them going "ooo, what is that? What is this? What's that thing?" (yes, with GlaDOS' curious core's voice) as they wander about, looking at and exploring things.
As a boy, my favorites were jumpers, golden orb weavers, and wolf spiders. Only jumpers look back at you. My only bite came from accidentally pinching a P. audax in a crease of my palm when I was eight or nine. I didn't encounter the name "bold" jumping spider until the past year or so. It makes sense, since audacity is boldness.
@@mebreevee When living on wooded land in SC I developed the habit of wearing an elastic banded headlamp when outside at night, so that I could see while keeping my hands free. I saw numerous spider eyes reflecting back at me. This phenomenon wasn't apparent with a hand-held flashlight, because that reflected light is returned to the vicinity of its source. I often followed those reflections to see what kind of spiders produced them. It also helped me to avoid stepping on them.
We can actually use these social spiders to harvest their spider webs. One of the reasons harvesting spider webs are so hard is because they are normally solitary but these social spiders are game changers. Spider webs are stronger and better than caterpillar silk after all.
Exactly what I was thinking. Cannibalism is a huge problem with farming spider silk, but if we use more social spiders, we might be able better farm them
It is awesome to look at social spiders work together, I was so enthralled by watching a colony hunt one night that I completely forgot I was filming and what could have been the best film I ever made turned out to be a shaky mess, good thing I had captured some images of them spinning their webs earlier in the day, so it wasn’t a complete loss. Lol
@@fandroid6491 you do know that the most poisonous spider in the world has killed 1 person in the past 40 years right? And It’d be a once in a lifetime encounter to find spider that can so much as too make you feel a bit queasy and scare it so much it’d bite you (especially with your irrationally bad arachnophobia)
I fear spiders personally. But I get more interested in spider whenever I understand their great role in our environment. Absolutely this was an informative episode. Thank you Scishow team for these daily science videos.
@@oh_knee7173 lol at the last part. Generally life insurance for someone who has an extremely rare disease isn't as easy to get a policy for. And, if due to that, they require their own doctor to assess their liability, life insurance is probably not great.
Honestly, if these spider species evolved a new reproductive strategy that allowed for bringing in novel genetic material (like how ants do), they likely would become wildly successful. Eusociality, communalism, and cooperative behavior are overwhelmingly successful evolutionary strategies.
@@RequiemPoete Sorry, I didn't mean to imply they were. I was more saying that cooperative strategies (including eusociality) are ridiculously effective, as ants and humans show very well. By removing the genetic bottleneck in the spiders' reproductive strategy, they would likely come to dominate their niche rather than have such a high colony failure rate.
It isn't cooperative. The rest of the specie are simply slaves to the single queen who is only one who has right to breed. If you wish to live your life as fulltime slave then go ahead with your communist utopia.
There is only really one species of tarantula that could be considered "social"; most eat each other on contact and some can be forced to live in groups in captivity, but only in enclosures small enough that no individual spider can establish a territory, but there's only one that actually prefers to be in the same space as others of its species Moncentropus balfouri, the Soccotran Island Blue Baboon Tarantula, eat more, grow faster, and generally are less likely to die when kept in colonies, as opposed to one per enclosure like with most tarantulas. They are also the only tarantula that exhibits "social" behavior, and they will tap each other with their front legs in a kind of "I'm another of the same species not food" kinda way. They have been seen even into adulthood sharing prey items and taking food from each other, usually without any squabble. They will maintain a huge web nest with multiple entrances, and actually seem to prefer openings that have another balfouri in it. (If you have arachnophobia then a mass web with blue legs in every opening is your nightmare, don't look up pictures/videos of a balfouri communal) In the future, I want to keep a huge communal (70-100 individuals) as a showpiece, and to document these almost social behaviors for the wider research community, because I don't think a communal that large has ever been attempted before
The final enclosure is planned to be right behind me when I open the front door, what better burglar/salesman deterrent than a tank with 100 tarantulas? Only 40% will be visible at any given time, on average, but that still means at least 30 of them are visible at all times. I don't know about you, but the idea of breaking into a house that contains that many tarantulas in a big glass enclosure would probably make *me* think twice, and I actually like tarantulas
I looked up their communal webs and it reminds me of a yarnwork art installation I visited that let people crawl around on surfaces and through portholes like that! It was super fun. I'm so jealous of their houses lol
This made me remember a Discovery Channel special about the future of Earth's life in which the last mammal on the planet was a mouse-like creature domesticated by a massive colony of social and intelligent spiders
the questions I always had were 1- how do they know which spiders are a part of the colony and which spiders are food 2- how do they police the colony to prevent free riders and or cannibals 3- how they decide who gets to breed and who dos not
Re: inbreeding problems: Perhaps the preponderance of insects of social insects from the hymenoptera is their sex scheme (haploid males clean up recessive defects in a hurry). For full development of social spiders, they may need a similar harsh mechanism to clean up the gene pool.
"Because yes spiders and other animals can have different personalities" I believe that, I mean Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, and Michael Myers all have different personalities too!
Seriously, which mad scientist looked at a massive pile of spiders weaving webs that cover entire trees and decides to study it? That’s like asking for nightmares.
I heard about before, but the labor division that was highlighted that time was between tending the nursery & hunting (that is, watching for & securing any prey which gets into the web).
Looking forward to huddling in my living cube, being a good citizen, while hordes of spider robots patrol the hallways maintaining peace and keeping us safe
I wonder why they're not diversifying at all. Maybe they just haven't had any evolution of the traits and behaviors that allow social populations to split, like how young wolves will lope off in pairs to start new packs. if social spiders are so rare and so random in their emergence, it might be that this crucial step is missed.
If I had to take a guess, I’d wager it has to do with the fact that most spiders are aggressive and territorial towards other spiders. Social spiders clearly make an exception towards their family members, but if a male spider has to risk his life approaching a female from another group, but is mostly safe approaching his cousin, why would he take the risk?
@@FireFog44 I guess the trick to overcoming this would be a little human intervention, like dropping in males that aren't related to the group during mating season and seeing what happens. Hypothetically, the social females may be more receptive to outsider spiders than normal females, and I doubt the outsider males would want to pass up on an easy lay. Or even if the outsiders get eaten, you still get new genetic material mixed with the social group
So the video of bees they show when explaining why roboticist want to emulate them happens to show several bees colliding in comical ways if you look closely. Clearly, there are limits even in nature to how coordinated they can be!
I think bees suffer no damage when they bounce off each other, so its easier to bounce and carry on then but a lot of resources into avoiding collisions.
I was surprised to find out that the various small brown tarantulas that show up on my patio can behave very differently to a gentle request to vacate a populated area. Some meander, some sprint, some turn around and bite at the 'encouragement tool'... it's subtle but noticeable.
Lived in New Guinea for years. They have communities of spiders that take over whole large pieces of the jungle. Webs that cover fences and trees for hundreds of meters, full of cicadas and birds.
I feel like you're dismissing the beauty of this evolutionary context. Even if they continue to die out, the fact that they continue to evolve towards this, is indicative of some inherent possibility of benefit. It can fail over and over and over again, but if it continues to be a station along the route of evolution, then it must hold some potential promise or, less poetically, fill a potential gap. Evolution is the sculptor that works in marble, always taking away. Mutation is the sculptor that works in clay, always adding new.
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In Australia we have huntsman spiders which are social but don't make webs, they live under tree bark and will bring food back to these hiding spaces to share with others, fortunately they haven't learned how to cooperate while hunting... yet.
A disclaimer: 2 of the listed sources are co-authored by J. N. Pruitt who has been unfortunatelly proven to had fabricated data on several of his papers where he was in charge of obtaining the data so take their info with a big grain of salt. It has been a really big deal about 2 years ago in arachonologic circles. If the data in the said 2 articles is genuine tho I agree that they are 2 of the most interesting arachnology papers out there.
I found some social spiders living salt crystal mounds on the Great Salt Lake (low lake level areas) in Utah. Lots of orange translucent spiders in the little crystal cavity.
I wonder if social spiders may be better candidates for collecting spider silk? It seems like they may avoid many of the problems of more typical spider silk (like needing a lot of space because they are antisocial and cannibalistic). Maybe they'll even benefit from human care
I couldn't stop thinking about falling or running into a spider colony and it just gives me the heebie jeebies. I find it both interesting and terrifying at the same time. I do my best to not kill spiders when I find them in my apartment, but if they touch me or fall towards me while picking them up, I always scream. It's so illogical since there isn't any or many poisonous ones in the pnw. Phobias are weird.
Ah yes, Harry Potter's Aragog gang and LotR's Ungolianth offspring in mirkwood! Classic examples of social spiders hunting in packs and covering large areas with their nets. Clearly they- oh, you're not even talking about those...
One year my dad had a huge colony of spiders make a nest in the same tree that year after year gets large caterpillar nests. Found that out by surprise when we took a torch to them... it was pretty gross.
When I taught English in Korea there was a tree in the back yard of the house they gave me I refused to go near. It was basically an apartment building/complex for spiders😅
So they need to figure out a way to exchange genes between the big nests to evolve further? Maybe a personality change of the teen spiders to live alone for a while and wander around would help.
Imagine, one day... a social colony spider may emerge that has a behaviour or trait that allows it to get around those inbreeding issues, and begin to establish a network of colonies that spread across the globe, covering the lands in silk.
St Andrews Cross Spiders (not sure how many species there are, or their details), seem to mostly be solitary, but able to be social if the conditions dictate the need. Its not something you see often, but every now and again, you encounter a tree full of the small to medium sized spiders. Large ones seem to be solitary. Possibly, this only relates to the north of Western Australia, in mango orchards, and sometimes in riverside colonies. Just my personal observation, I am not an expert. I'd be interested if someone who knew more could provide details.
Social spiders is so fascinating! Id love to know if there is some kind of dominance hierarchy. I know in M Balfouri tarantula communals there has been evidence of some form of communication between females, where one taps on the others abdomen rapidly, which causes the other to move out of the way. Non fatal fights can happen, though uncommon, though it is very common for one spider to steal prey out of anothers mouth. Its difficult to know if there is any strict hierarchy since most of the time they are hidden in burrows and tunnels, but Id love to see a study on this
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Why don’t we use social spiders to farm spider silk??? I can hypothesize reasons (their web material is the wrong kind, it’s too messy, they don’t do well in captivity) but I haven’t been able to find an actual answer and I’ve been wondering this for YEARS. Hypotheses are great, but…guys…this would be a great video. You can talk about the uses of spider silk and explore weird spider facts and talk to spider experts. PLEASE.
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This sneak peak of Spiderman: across the spider verse is wild.
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A colony of spiders sounds like the most terrifying thing I can imagine, especially if they were advanced social like bees and ants
"Web" by John Wyndham is probably something you shouldn't read then lol
They also probably shouldn't watch the movie Arachnophobia.
I remember having seen an old US movie that had some species of tarantulas skyrocket in population density in some rural region, killing some farm animals and humans in the process and eventually having the surviving main characters trapped inside the basement of a house, with the entire surrounding landscape being covered in webs and nests of those tarantulas.
That ending image of the movie was quite terrifying, even if I thought "yeah completely unrealistic, already just on the basis of spiders not being social animals but solitary or even cannibalistic"... oh well, so much about that...
@@Heroesflorian Sounds like _Kingdom of the Spiders_
@@vintagevhsarchive ah, indeed that was it!
Tarantula keepers are aware that spiders can have very different personalities. I have a super shy one and a very skittish one. The shy one always hides while the skittish one flies back into her web the moment her enclosure moves
Yeah, see enough spiders, and you can certainly tell they have varying personalities. Though I suppose some types do tend toward some personalities more then others, it seems. But I've ran into things like hyper aggressive black widows, who would quite literally run OUT of their web to present their fangs at you, despite being only inches away from your shoe that could easily crush them (note: I did not kill said spider either). To widows that were docile enough they would quite comfortably just sit around in your hand/on your arm for hours without fuss. Wolf spiders of just about every demeanor as well. I think my favorite, though, are the inquisitive and curious jumpers. It's so hard NOT to imagine them going "ooo, what is that? What is this? What's that thing?" (yes, with GlaDOS' curious core's voice) as they wander about, looking at and exploring things.
As a boy, my favorites were jumpers, golden orb weavers, and wolf spiders. Only jumpers look back at you. My only bite came from accidentally pinching a P. audax in a crease of my palm when I was eight or nine. I didn't encounter the name "bold" jumping spider until the past year or so. It makes sense, since audacity is boldness.
Cool story, bro
I love jumping spiders! I doubt they would pack hunt though, as they have a tendency towards cannibalism, and have to be moved apart after a phase.
@@jeffthompson9622 I love bold jumpers. In the fall I like to take them in and raise adults further. Its so fascinating!
@@mebreevee When living on wooded land in SC I developed the habit of wearing an elastic banded headlamp when outside at night, so that I could see while keeping my hands free. I saw numerous spider eyes reflecting back at me. This phenomenon wasn't apparent with a hand-held flashlight, because that reflected light is returned to the vicinity of its source. I often followed those reflections to see what kind of spiders produced them. It also helped me to avoid stepping on them.
We can actually use these social spiders to harvest their spider webs. One of the reasons harvesting spider webs are so hard is because they are normally solitary but these social spiders are game changers. Spider webs are stronger and better than caterpillar silk after all.
Exactly what I was thinking. Cannibalism is a huge problem with farming spider silk, but if we use more social spiders, we might be able better farm them
@@CrownofMischief Or just figure out which genes allow it, so they could implant them in orb weavers which produce the strongest silk.
"What We Can Learn From 10,000 Pack-Hunting Spiders
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Fear.
The answer is Fear.
It is awesome to look at social spiders work together, I was so enthralled by watching a colony hunt one night that I completely forgot I was filming and what could have been the best film I ever made turned out to be a shaky mess, good thing I had captured some images of them spinning their webs earlier in the day, so it wasn’t a complete loss. Lol
It’s all nice till their at your living space!?!😒🥃
@@patd9850 I don’t mind spiders, what makes me really afraid are snakes. I always admired people that have pet snakes.
@@patd9850 I don't mind that but after I find out that the spiders are poisonous via Google search, I'm going to torch the whole house down.
@@fandroid6491 you do know that the most poisonous spider in the world has killed 1 person in the past 40 years right? And It’d be a once in a lifetime encounter to find spider that can so much as too make you feel a bit queasy and scare it so much it’d bite you (especially with your irrationally bad arachnophobia)
I fear spiders personally. But I get more interested in spider whenever I understand their great role in our environment. Absolutely this was an informative episode. Thank you Scishow team for these daily science videos.
As someone with a rare disease, you both dread and expect, "oh that's weird" regularly. It got me into a textbook once.
3 questions
what diseases?
What text book?
And would you be interested in purchasing a life insurance package?
@@oh_knee7173 lol at the last part. Generally life insurance for someone who has an extremely rare disease isn't as easy to get a policy for. And, if due to that, they require their own doctor to assess their liability, life insurance is probably not great.
Honestly, if these spider species evolved a new reproductive strategy that allowed for bringing in novel genetic material (like how ants do), they likely would become wildly successful. Eusociality, communalism, and cooperative behavior are overwhelmingly successful evolutionary strategies.
They aren't eusocial. Each spider can mate and sire off spring. They're more like a pack of Buffalo vs bees.
@@RequiemPoete Sorry, I didn't mean to imply they were. I was more saying that cooperative strategies (including eusociality) are ridiculously effective, as ants and humans show very well.
By removing the genetic bottleneck in the spiders' reproductive strategy, they would likely come to dominate their niche rather than have such a high colony failure rate.
eusociality is quite rare outside of a few insect groups
It isn't cooperative. The rest of the specie are simply slaves to the single queen who is only one who has right to breed. If you wish to live your life as fulltime slave then go ahead with your communist utopia.
I don't know about actual flight but if the hairs on spider legs were longer they might stump up enough surface area to turn falling into gliding.
I like how some spiders are more social than some people
There is only really one species of tarantula that could be considered "social"; most eat each other on contact and some can be forced to live in groups in captivity, but only in enclosures small enough that no individual spider can establish a territory, but there's only one that actually prefers to be in the same space as others of its species
Moncentropus balfouri, the Soccotran Island Blue Baboon Tarantula, eat more, grow faster, and generally are less likely to die when kept in colonies, as opposed to one per enclosure like with most tarantulas. They are also the only tarantula that exhibits "social" behavior, and they will tap each other with their front legs in a kind of "I'm another of the same species not food" kinda way. They have been seen even into adulthood sharing prey items and taking food from each other, usually without any squabble. They will maintain a huge web nest with multiple entrances, and actually seem to prefer openings that have another balfouri in it.
(If you have arachnophobia then a mass web with blue legs in every opening is your nightmare, don't look up pictures/videos of a balfouri communal)
In the future, I want to keep a huge communal (70-100 individuals) as a showpiece, and to document these almost social behaviors for the wider research community, because I don't think a communal that large has ever been attempted before
If you ever do get that communal going, please document it on TH-cam. :)
@@MartinFinnerup That's the plan, I might even set up a stream camera so people can catch behaviors that I wasn't there to document
I’m going to schedule in my calendar to search TH-cam for your videos every couple years. :) This is incredible!
The final enclosure is planned to be right behind me when I open the front door, what better burglar/salesman deterrent than a tank with 100 tarantulas? Only 40% will be visible at any given time, on average, but that still means at least 30 of them are visible at all times. I don't know about you, but the idea of breaking into a house that contains that many tarantulas in a big glass enclosure would probably make *me* think twice, and I actually like tarantulas
I looked up their communal webs and it reminds me of a yarnwork art installation I visited that let people crawl around on surfaces and through portholes like that! It was super fun. I'm so jealous of their houses lol
Pack-hunting roaming spiders would be an interesting development. They could be like the wolves or the lions of the bug world.
I believe they wouldn't last that long. Biodiversity be damned I'm burning them with a ww2 flamethrower.
No, just no!
It would be sooo cool. I now know what to wish for.
@@toast6375 I know who to wish for to not have a wish.
Army ants
"Sometimes it's the weird ones that teach us the most." A quote for the ages !:-)
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This made me remember a Discovery Channel special about the future of Earth's life in which the last mammal on the planet was a mouse-like creature domesticated by a massive colony of social and intelligent spiders
what was it called?
@@enzldavaractl8345 the future is wild.
the questions I always had were
1- how do they know which spiders are a part of the colony and which spiders are food
2- how do they police the colony to prevent free riders and or cannibals
3- how they decide who gets to breed and who dos not
Re: inbreeding problems: Perhaps the preponderance of insects of social insects from the hymenoptera is their sex scheme (haploid males clean up recessive defects in a hurry). For full development of social spiders, they may need a similar harsh mechanism to clean up the gene pool.
@@drstone3418 Alabama moment?
"Because yes spiders and other animals can have different personalities"
I believe that, I mean Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, and Michael Myers all have different personalities too!
Chubbyemu: Sock spider
Scishow: Might I not interest you in 10,000 spiders?
i came from that video as well, what a timing haha
Seriously, which mad scientist looked at a massive pile of spiders weaving webs that cover entire trees and decides to study it? That’s like asking for nightmares.
I dream of giant spiders! I LOVE them!
I heard about before, but the labor division that was highlighted that time was between tending the nursery & hunting (that is, watching for & securing any prey which gets into the web).
Looking forward to huddling in my living cube, being a good citizen, while hordes of spider robots patrol the hallways maintaining peace and keeping us safe
I wonder why they're not diversifying at all. Maybe they just haven't had any evolution of the traits and behaviors that allow social populations to split, like how young wolves will lope off in pairs to start new packs. if social spiders are so rare and so random in their emergence, it might be that this crucial step is missed.
Ballooning doesn't take you far in a major web complex. Their natural method of diversification is useless.
If I had to take a guess, I’d wager it has to do with the fact that most spiders are aggressive and territorial towards other spiders. Social spiders clearly make an exception towards their family members, but if a male spider has to risk his life approaching a female from another group, but is mostly safe approaching his cousin, why would he take the risk?
@@FireFog44 I guess the trick to overcoming this would be a little human intervention, like dropping in males that aren't related to the group during mating season and seeing what happens. Hypothetically, the social females may be more receptive to outsider spiders than normal females, and I doubt the outsider males would want to pass up on an easy lay. Or even if the outsiders get eaten, you still get new genetic material mixed with the social group
So the video of bees they show when explaining why roboticist want to emulate them happens to show several bees colliding in comical ways if you look closely. Clearly, there are limits even in nature to how coordinated they can be!
I think bees suffer no damage when they bounce off each other, so its easier to bounce and carry on then but a lot of resources into avoiding collisions.
I have a little colony in my garden... Probably like 10 adults, all very small stay in one plant. They are very interesting to watch.
Looking at these terrifying webs makes me wonder if there are any cases of spider colonies trapping a large mammal in one of these and devouring it...
Am I the only one who found the group of grey coloured spiders kinda cute?
Yes
No, They are pretty adorable.
They are definitely cute.
Indeed, adorable little things.
Velvet spiders in general are adorable!
I was surprised to find out that the various small brown tarantulas that show up on my patio can behave very differently to a gentle request to vacate a populated area. Some meander, some sprint, some turn around and bite at the 'encouragement tool'... it's subtle but noticeable.
A good spider is one that stays in its web
Lived in New Guinea for years. They have communities of spiders that take over whole large pieces of the jungle. Webs that cover fences and trees for hundreds of meters, full of cicadas and birds.
...what I learned is that flamethrowers are your friends.
Sometimes I have nightmares of being trapped in these huge webs full of spiders 😬
😱🙀👻
@@infinitejest441 a dream come true! Spiders are my FRIENDS!
The Children of Time has already started? Cool cool cool
I love spiders so much :D they're so cute and cool and graceful!
I feel like you're dismissing the beauty of this evolutionary context. Even if they continue to die out, the fact that they continue to evolve towards this, is indicative of some inherent possibility of benefit. It can fail over and over and over again, but if it continues to be a station along the route of evolution, then it must hold some potential promise or, less poetically, fill a potential gap. Evolution is the sculptor that works in marble, always taking away. Mutation is the sculptor that works in clay, always adding new.
You would not believe your eyes
If 10 thousand spiderlings
Decided to live in a colony
What can we learn? Abject terror.
I love how this doesn't have a single ad
Yay! Maybe we can finally have spider silk! Part of the problem on why we can’t cultivate is because they eat each other.
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In Australia we have huntsman spiders which are social but don't make webs, they live under tree bark and will bring food back to these hiding spaces to share with others, fortunately they haven't learned how to cooperate while hunting... yet.
4:08 "if i go down, you go down with me"
Well, I can certainly say that "10,000 pack hunting spiders" is a sentence out of my worst nightmare
For people that like spiders living in groups and defying expectations, a good science fiction read is Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky :)
You know what I learned from this video? Diversity is really useful
Up until now, I thought spiders were kinda cute. Thanks for making them terrifying again. :(
🕷 🕸
They are both
The biggest advantage of spiders living in a colony like this is that you only need 1 fire.
If you found this fascinating, listen to Adrian Tchaikovsky’s excellent book “Children of Time.”
really enjoyed the video, thanks for presenting
A disclaimer: 2 of the listed sources are co-authored by J. N. Pruitt who has been unfortunatelly proven to had fabricated data on several of his papers where he was in charge of obtaining the data so take their info with a big grain of salt. It has been a really big deal about 2 years ago in arachonologic circles.
If the data in the said 2 articles is genuine tho I agree that they are 2 of the most interesting arachnology papers out there.
If in the future I'm trapped under a collapsed building and the only way to find me is to send in the rescue pack of spiders... just leave me there.
I found some social spiders living salt crystal mounds on the Great Salt Lake (low lake level areas) in Utah. Lots of orange translucent spiders in the little crystal cavity.
Well I've certainly learned fear if I haven't already
When I lived in North Carolina I had seen songbirds in tree spider webs like that
I just want to say spiders are cool.
We get to see a bee speeding head on to another bee while flying out of the colony at 4:09. The victim bee must have a concussion.
Always interesting, thank you.
I wonder if social spiders may be better candidates for collecting spider silk? It seems like they may avoid many of the problems of more typical spider silk (like needing a lot of space because they are antisocial and cannibalistic). Maybe they'll even benefit from human care
Lets just genetically engineer spiders for space. Hive space spiders, whos with me? What could go wrong?
My spidy-sense was tingling .. Also, notifications ..
What we cam learn is that 9,999 more spiders is much more scarier than just one.
10,000 pack-hunting spiders. Sounds like Lord Of The Rings.
"What We Can Learn From 10,000 Pack-Hunting Spiders"? That it's their planet now, we're leaving!
Oh saw title, and said AWESOME!!!
I couldn't stop thinking about falling or running into a spider colony and it just gives me the heebie jeebies. I find it both interesting and terrifying at the same time. I do my best to not kill spiders when I find them in my apartment, but if they touch me or fall towards me while picking them up, I always scream. It's so illogical since there isn't any or many poisonous ones in the pnw. Phobias are weird.
The headline brought me here and I’m freaking out
Ah yes, Harry Potter's Aragog gang and LotR's Ungolianth offspring in mirkwood!
Classic examples of social spiders hunting in packs and covering large areas with their nets. Clearly they- oh, you're not even talking about those...
I thought knocking down a bee hive was terrifying, but a spider hive?!😱
Those stegodyphus are adorable! I really want a velvet spider like that someday.
We can learn the power of running away truly fast.
My spidy sense is tingling
Fear- we can learn fear.
Can you talk about the effects if citys had only parking lots use thirsty cement and native shade trees please.
Oh god that sounds like hell. Only parking lots 💀
Imagine falling in one of those bushing where 10K+ spider live.
I would sooner want to be burned alive tbh
One year my dad had a huge colony of spiders make a nest in the same tree that year after year gets large caterpillar nests. Found that out by surprise when we took a torch to them... it was pretty gross.
As an a massive arachniphobe i love videos like this.
"It turn out living in big ball of spiders..."
*screaming internally*
When I taught English in Korea there was a tree in the back yard of the house they gave me I refused to go near. It was basically an apartment building/complex for spiders😅
3:13 that guy in that paper? He’s been faking data for about a decade and recently resigned.
Spiders don't have personalities, they have "spideralities". 🕷
So they need to figure out a way to exchange genes between the big nests to evolve further?
Maybe a personality change of the teen spiders to live alone for a while and wander around would help.
I learned that you should always carry a flame thrower with you at all times.
it means they're working together to overthrow us as the top predator by scaring us with their creepy legs........ :S
I can't imagine many insects have good eyesight, because if a tree that looks like THAT and still gets bugs flying into it...
5:15 halo effect on the speaker:)
PACKS!? THEY'RE HUNTING IN PACKS NOW!?
Imagine, one day... a social colony spider may emerge that has a behaviour or trait that allows it to get around those inbreeding issues, and begin to establish a network of colonies that spread across the globe, covering the lands in silk.
St Andrews Cross Spiders (not sure how many species there are, or their details), seem to mostly be solitary, but able to be social if the conditions dictate the need. Its not something you see often, but every now and again, you encounter a tree full of the small to medium sized spiders. Large ones seem to be solitary. Possibly, this only relates to the north of Western Australia, in mango orchards, and sometimes in riverside colonies. Just my personal observation, I am not an expert. I'd be interested if someone who knew more could provide details.
These photos make me want to invest in a flame thrower.
4:10 that bee in the top left just crashed into a bee, and caused that one to tumble into another bee.
So glad the wifi signal doesn't reach the spiders in my basement so that they don't get any ideas from this video.
Lets hope the swarm is not like this:
Swarm... Devouring Swarm... WE ARE HUNGRY!!!
Terror, we can learn terror from pack hunting spiders.
Getting some real Children of Time vibes from those spiders. :Vc
"A dozen boogie robots! Boogieee!!!!!"
Social spiders is so fascinating! Id love to know if there is some kind of dominance hierarchy. I know in M Balfouri tarantula communals there has been evidence of some form of communication between females, where one taps on the others abdomen rapidly, which causes the other to move out of the way. Non fatal fights can happen, though uncommon, though it is very common for one spider to steal prey out of anothers mouth. Its difficult to know if there is any strict hierarchy since most of the time they are hidden in burrows and tunnels, but Id love to see a study on this
What We Can Learn ?
10,000 ways to say NOPE
I know what I learned, I learned that homeowners insurance does not cover arson lol
They are pretty cute.
I'll get the exorcist....
@@samsonsoturian6013 I love spiders.