Hellenic Air Force F-4E Phantom Engine Start Up and Take Off in Andravida Airbase. The Phantom belonged to 339 Squadron which was suspended at 31 of October 2017.
Back in the 70’s I would spend time at my uncle’s house in Ft Smith, AR. They lived near Ft Chaffee and I can vividly remember the crazy loud roar of the F4 screaming into the air under full afterburner! It was amazing! Still get chills just thinking about it.
To anyone wondering what that small cart is that fires up: that's a start cart, since these jets weren't equipped with auxiliary power units (APUs), they required an external power source to do checks and start the plane.
There's a compressed-air turbine that starts the engine. The compressor unit was known as a "wolf." In an emergency, there was provision for a "cartridge start," using a pyrotechnic charge about the size of a 5-pound coffee can; but in four years and nearly 1,000 hours flight time, I never used one.
In RCAF all external starters are called "Huffers". Usually it's a turbine APU cart. Occasionally it's a young airman fresh out of training we like to prank by asking them to blow really hard into an APU feed hose into the jet until they turn blue and keel over. Always fun to watch the new airmen keel over from flutily starting a jet with their overworked lungs.
When I worked for Integrated Airline Services as a ramp agent at KIAH, we used them to start up some of our clients aircraft (such as BAX Global's DC-8-61). Was always cool in cranking it up and seeing sparks of flame shooting out of the exhaust toward the top.
I was in kefalonia (a greek island) and 2 of these flew right over us in a formation. Never seem them before IRL so was really nice to see them. Beautiful aircraft
When I was young in the 80’s, we were swimming at the seas of Mani and I remember very well the Greek pilots flying these f4s... at least 10 seconds before our eyes could see them, we heard this unbelievable noise coming. It was like an earthquake of 12 richter... very frightening!
Such a beautiful jet aircraft. I grew up with the teen series of fighters so the F-4 didn't really grow on me until much later. All things considered, think I have more of an appreciation for this fighter than all others.
I don't know why the U.S. military thought it had to retire all of it's Phantoms. They would've worked great for most all of the missions required of it to the present day, i.e. Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's actually debated how capable of a modern platform the F4 could be with the US simply because of it's fantastic carrying capacity, lower cost/less complicated to maintain, and has been proven to be highly adaptable with modern technologies. Other countries still update their phantoms to this day. The fact is with the newer strategies centered around autonomous weapons systems and platforms and needing capable launch vehicles - a modernized F4 phantom would be a great piloted missile or drone boat with great speed that could have its weapons guided by an F35 or other modern fighter. Ultimately for the US it's probably a matter more weighed in from politics and the MIC.
I grew up in Birmingham Alabama in the 80s and 90s we had a very active squadron of the long nose recon phantoms at our air nation guard. When 4 of them would fly very low over our house it would rattle the windows. I still miss them. They were called up and served very distinctly in the gulf war snd we were all very proud. The wing was retired in the mud 90s and replaced by Kc135s, lame.
Καλές Πτήσεις να έχετε!!! Μεγάλωσα στην Διασπορά της 117 Π.Μ. Υπηρετούσε ο Πατέρας μου στην ΜΣΒ, από το 1981 έως το 1990!!! Ακόμη θυμάμαι τα γεγονότα του 1987... Αθάνατα εργαλεία!!! Μαζί με τα Corsairs A7!!! Ο Θεός και η Παναγία να προστατεύει πάντοτε τα Παλληκάρια μας!!! Τους Ικαρους μας!!!🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 "Οι Ουρανοί είναι δικοί μας"!!!
Γιατι στο πρωτο αεροπλανο 16:24 η θυριδα του πολυβολου ειναι κλειστη; ωραιο ωιντεο για καταλαβουμε ποσο σημαντικη και υπευθυνη δουλεια ειναι αυτη των μηχανικων.
Ah the F-4 Phantom II, proof that with enough brute force engine power even a brick will fly. I didn't think that there would be any still flying in military service today.
I believe Iran is still flying lots of them..as well as many other older gen jets..from F-5's, to F-4's..And fun fact, they're also the only nation that still has the venerable & much beloved, US-made, F-14A Tomcats still serviceable & flying (largely thanks to them getting modern Russian help & support to update their weapons & systems).. anywhere in the world, much less still doing so in active military service. Cheers.
I know this is not an emergency scramble but dam it takes long to get moving...........imagine if they were "on ready 5" and doing an intercept - the enemy would have been back at base drinking a beer !
Ah, The F-4 Phantom. Living proof that with enough thrust even a brick can fly. Great airplane though. Aero quick quiz: why so much anhedral in the stabilators?
People always say that about the Phantom, but the Phantom is no different than any other similar plane in that respect; it has a high wing loading and powerful engines.
First engine starts at 6:22 Rolling at 14:55 1st Phantom takes off at 18:19 2nd Phantom takes off at 18:49 Thanks for posting but it really should be much shorter.
Mi dispiace che non siano operativi, ma finalizzati a dimostrazioni per far godere i spettatori. In Vietnam erano la punta di diamante nel contrastare i Mig sovietici
It's even more fun when I understand the process but have no clue how this Phantom got started. This is a video that describes starting a jet. it is not a video that makes any sense.
Πόσο καταπληκτικο αεροπλάνο που αν το 1974 οι φίλοι μας οι Αμερικανοί μας άφηναν να πάνε Κύπρο στην εισβολή θα τους είχαμε εξαΰλωσει τους Μογγολους και η ιστορία θα ήταν διαφορετικη σε πολλά πράγματα δυστυχώς αν μας αφήνανε θα μιλούσαμε αλλιώς το F35 της εποχής του ήταν
Που βόσκανε ο υπόλογος και ο βοηθός του στην αρχή; Να βγάζει ο χειριστής μόνος του ασφάλειες και καπάκια!!! Ε ρε και να τύχαινε καμία τέτοια φάση σε μας ακόμα θα υπηρετούσαμε... χαχαχαχα
1) Δεν υπάρχει περίπτωση να υπάρχει αεροσκάφος έτοιμο για πτήση και οι υπολογοι να τα ξύνουν!! Μηπως τους είχαν χωσει και κάπου αλλού;; σπάνιο βλέπεις για την Π.Α αυτο... Και 2) ο ιπτάμενος αν ζοριζοταν να βγάλει μερικά RBF κατά την επιθεώρηση του αεροσκάφους και το καπάκι προστασίας του κινητήρα από τους αεραγωγούς, ας μην το έκανε! Ήταν πολύ άσχημη η συμπεριφορά του να τα πετάει κάτω με τέτοιον τρόπο, λες και οι υπολογοι είναι τα δουλακια του που θα πρέπει να τα μάζεψουν μετά από εκεί που τα σκόρπισε. Ευτυχώς που οι περισσότεροι ιπτάμενοι δεν μας έχουν συνηθίσει με τέτοιες συμπεριφορές.
@@Stelaras79 Το 1983 στην 337 αυτά που γράφεις δεν τα σκεφτόσουνα καν. Την μόνη ασφάλεια που έβγαζαν οι πιλότοι ήταν στο αλεξίπτωτο ουράς.Οι ασφάλειες των όπλων βγαίναν τελευταίες στο δάπεδο μπροστά από τον διάδρομο απογείωσης . Η 338 και 339 δεν έκαναν αναχαιτίσεις τότε και τα αεροπλάνα τους είχαν βαφή παραλλαγής εδάφους επιπλέον οι κινητήρες τους αφήναν μαύρο καπνό πίσω τους (καρβουνιάρηδες τους λέγανε).
@@kxptr υπήρχαν και κινητήρες J79 non smoke έκδοση , οπου δεν εβγαζαν το ντουμανι το οποιο γινοταν διακριτό απο 25 μιλια αποσταση. J79 φορουσαν επισης και τα f-104 αστρομαχητες.
@@Stelaras79 Σωστά, τότε μόνο η 337 (ΜΑΠΚ η ΜΠΚ) και τα RF είχαν non smoke κινητήρες. Στο βίντεο πάντως είναι πολύ χαλαροί. Το έκανα αυτό σχεδόν ένα χρόνο, όταν το αεροπλάνο πετούσε, ο προϊστάμενος σε έβαζε να κόβεις τα χόρτα γύρω από το δάπεδο και στα αναχώματα.
Never get tired of seeing the Phantom. My favorite cold war jet
Even though Canada never operated Phantoms I really love this old Vietnam era classic. Glad these old warhorses are cared for in Greek hands.
I worked on them at Seymour Johnson AFB in NC from 81 to 87 and we called those start carts -60s! Loved ole double ugly!!!
Back in the 70’s I would spend time at my uncle’s house in Ft Smith, AR. They lived near Ft Chaffee and I can vividly remember the crazy loud roar of the F4 screaming into the air under full afterburner! It was amazing! Still get chills just thinking about it.
To anyone wondering what that small cart is that fires up: that's a start cart, since these jets weren't equipped with auxiliary power units (APUs), they required an external power source to do checks and start the plane.
There's a compressed-air turbine that starts the engine. The compressor unit was known as a "wolf." In an emergency, there was provision for a "cartridge start," using a pyrotechnic charge about the size of a 5-pound coffee can; but in four years and nearly 1,000 hours flight time, I never used one.
Otherwise known as a -60 ( dash 60 ) .
In RCAF all external starters are called "Huffers". Usually it's a turbine APU cart. Occasionally it's a young airman fresh out of training we like to prank by asking them to blow really hard into an APU feed hose into the jet until they turn blue and keel over. Always fun to watch the new airmen keel over from flutily starting a jet with their overworked lungs.
called them -60s apu and air start, little jet engine in it
When I worked for Integrated Airline Services as a ramp agent at KIAH, we used them to start up some of our clients aircraft (such as BAX Global's DC-8-61). Was always cool in cranking it up and seeing sparks of flame shooting out of the exhaust toward the top.
I was in kefalonia (a greek island) and 2 of these flew right over us in a formation. Never seem them before IRL so was really nice to see them. Beautiful aircraft
When I was young in the 80’s, we were swimming at the seas of Mani and I remember very well the Greek pilots flying these f4s... at least 10 seconds before our eyes could see them, we heard this unbelievable noise coming. It was like an earthquake of 12 richter... very frightening!
I used to crew the F4's back in the 80's with the USAF
Bill Wood The VC called them silent death because they were on you before you heard them! One of the most beautiful jets ever produced.
I'm going to buy one someday about 4 million plus the more J 79 s I'm just an engine repair airman Vietnam veteran I love the F 4 s
me to...elmendorph...sent my girl(68-402 ) to greece....shes still flying
Early 1980s at torrejon afb. Madrid Spain. Great times.
@@crew206 My lovely went to DM and was scrapped :( Rip 66-7553 .
Legend has it that commander Kostas is still starting those two J79’s to this day...
Best American made fighter. Loud, mean, and can kick ass!!!!
cause "they got style"
Such a beautiful jet aircraft. I grew up with the teen series of fighters so the F-4 didn't really grow on me until much later. All things considered, think I have more of an appreciation for this fighter than all others.
I was a jet engine mechanic on F4's in Germany and South Korea in the 80's.
J79-17 was the best engine, 4 stages of afterburner for the F4E, the F4 with a gun.
Beautiful planes. Nice video. Thank you for posting.
Thank you. More Phantoms video at playlist.
How much I miss flying in the Israeli Phantom
What a powerful jet
The F-4E Phantom is a beautiful aircraft, I want it to remain operational for many more decades and never need replacing unnecessarily.
I don't know why the U.S. military thought it had to retire all of it's Phantoms. They would've worked great for most all of the missions required of it to the present day, i.e. Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's actually debated how capable of a modern platform the F4 could be with the US simply because of it's fantastic carrying capacity, lower cost/less complicated to maintain, and has been proven to be highly adaptable with modern technologies. Other countries still update their phantoms to this day. The fact is with the newer strategies centered around autonomous weapons systems and platforms and needing capable launch vehicles - a modernized F4 phantom would be a great piloted missile or drone boat with great speed that could have its weapons guided by an F35 or other modern fighter. Ultimately for the US it's probably a matter more weighed in from politics and the MIC.
God i love F4 Phantoms in the top 5 of my favorite jet aircraft
I was a Crew Chief on F4-E.... Thanks for the memory
You cut out "Last chance" inspection at the runway start... That was my favorite role!
Those J79’s are something else
I like the V-8 Huffer you fellas used ! We worked on some big block engines for those years ago .
Good Fun ! Easy work too !
Ο Ταξιάρχης να σας σκεπάζει πάντα. Ευγνώμων! 💙🙏
Το περιμέναμε... Ευχαριστούμε. Τέλειο
I grew up in Birmingham Alabama in the 80s and 90s we had a very active squadron of the long nose recon phantoms at our air nation guard. When 4 of them would fly very low over our house it would rattle the windows. I still miss them. They were called up and served very distinctly in the gulf war snd we were all very proud. The wing was retired in the mud 90s and replaced by Kc135s, lame.
J79-17 best engine I ever worked on, 4 stages of afterburner for the F4E, the F4 with a gun.
There was a more powerful, and lighter engine that could've been retrofitted by the 1980s, but the military wanted all new planes instead.
The jets from this Era are the sexiest, sweet lines/ big engines....f4, f14, f111 ...bad ass
@@1madcanuck
Ikr? Hard to believe something so big and heavy can move that fast and with agility too!
God this thing sounds so evil as it’s starting up at 6:19. I love it.
Καλές Πτήσεις να έχετε!!! Μεγάλωσα στην Διασπορά της 117 Π.Μ. Υπηρετούσε ο Πατέρας μου στην ΜΣΒ, από το 1981 έως το 1990!!! Ακόμη θυμάμαι τα γεγονότα του 1987... Αθάνατα εργαλεία!!! Μαζί με τα Corsairs A7!!! Ο Θεός και η Παναγία να προστατεύει πάντοτε τα Παλληκάρια μας!!! Τους Ικαρους μας!!!🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷 "Οι Ουρανοί είναι δικοί μας"!!!
This is my favorite jet because of the look McDonnell did a good job with this badass fighter
Love to see a newer f4, these STILL KICK. BUTT. NOTHING LIKE OLD SCHOOL, PLanes.❤😊
Γιατι στο πρωτο αεροπλανο 16:24 η θυριδα του πολυβολου ειναι κλειστη; ωραιο ωιντεο για καταλαβουμε ποσο σημαντικη και υπευθυνη δουλεια ειναι αυτη των μηχανικων.
I agree totally.
Looks like the ground crew was pissed off having to do yet another see off, how he’s throwing the locks and blanks everywhere!
If that was an alert flight, no way I'm hell it would've taken that long.
Ah the F-4 Phantom II, proof that with enough brute force engine power even a brick will fly. I didn't think that there would be any still flying in military service today.
I believe Iran is still flying lots of them..as well as many other older gen jets..from F-5's, to F-4's..And fun fact, they're also the only nation that still has the venerable & much beloved, US-made, F-14A Tomcats still serviceable & flying (largely thanks to them getting modern Russian help & support to update their weapons & systems).. anywhere in the world, much less still doing so in active military service.
Cheers.
I know this is not an emergency scramble but dam it takes long to get moving...........imagine if they were "on ready 5" and doing an intercept - the enemy would have been back at base drinking a beer !
Ah, The F-4 Phantom. Living proof that with enough thrust even a brick can fly. Great airplane though.
Aero quick quiz: why so much anhedral in the stabilators?
So they don't get any of the turbulence from the main wing at certain angles of attack
It’s not just thrust. Also the wing area to take into account.
@@topsecret1837 Here's a nickle, kid. Go get yourself a sense of humor...
People always say that about the Phantom, but the Phantom is no different than any other similar plane in that respect; it has a high wing loading and powerful engines.
@@topsecret1837 phantom has a good lift to weight ratio. At one time the phantom was the fastest jet fighter in the world.
First engine starts at 6:22
Rolling at 14:55
1st Phantom takes off at 18:19
2nd Phantom takes off at 18:49
Thanks for posting but it really should be much shorter.
The first engine start must be on the other aircraft because the bleed air hose isn’t hooked up to the one we are looking at.
@@TobinLam You're correct. The one in the video engine started up around 11:30
Mi dispiace che non siano operativi, ma finalizzati a dimostrazioni per far godere i spettatori. In Vietnam erano la punta di diamante nel contrastare i Mig sovietici
And I love the sound of the j79 engines
Man I love that plane
Anyone remember cart starts?
Why are they training? Against the Spartans?
Still the best looking, jet fighter, ever built.
6:25 engine start. 18:19 take off. Everything else...complete boredom.
get a frikken wind screen for that mic
What a rush to hear em again..crew chief SSGT retired...loved my job...
Ikaros??🦅
Ωραίο βίντεο!
My bad...not an air start cart but a dc start cart ? I liked -86's with the dc power pack for older aircraft. F-86 is dc electric start fun fact.
DCS F4e by heatblur...look it up.
Phantom Pharewell......
Gotta love the little MA-1A. That pig is almost as bad as the entire B-1 bomber program.
Anyone sees the little fire spike caused by the right engine at 18:44? :)
What countries still fly the f4
In Europe only Greece. South Korea still have them and Turkey most probably.
Only 20 minutes to takeoff?…come on guys
Phantom gang
Phantom gang
MAN. AND MACHINE😊❤
not so much how we did it
Burned a whole tank just to start it 😂
still had a pin left in....
There is another check just before takeoff and removed there!
Ωραίο!
It means wonderful
Very cool but did anybody notice that a tag was still left on? ooops!!!
It's removed at leak check.
Looks like an f-16 nose on that f-4 phantom
I think you mean F-15
Careerraindrop if you look at those little humps right before the nose looks just like the ones on an f-16. Might not be a f-16 nose.
@@michaelbrooks9227 also keep in mind these were made in 1960 and F-16s were introduced in 1978
Careerraindrop I’ve seen older jets with upgrades
@@michaelbrooks9227 huh?
is this an aviation museum?
No, now are flying with 338 SQN.
It's even more fun when I understand the process but have no clue how this Phantom got started. This is a video that describes starting a jet. it is not a video that makes any sense.
Well at least Iran is still flying them 🤨
Πόσο καταπληκτικο αεροπλάνο που αν το 1974 οι φίλοι μας οι Αμερικανοί μας άφηναν να πάνε Κύπρο στην εισβολή θα τους είχαμε εξαΰλωσει τους Μογγολους και η ιστορία θα ήταν διαφορετικη σε πολλά πράγματα δυστυχώς αν μας αφήνανε θα μιλούσαμε αλλιώς το F35 της εποχής του ήταν
Είχαν πάει Κύπρο, δυστυχώς όμως 2 είχαν πέσει. Ήταν κάτι το νέο για εμάς και δυστυχώς δεν ήξεραν να το πιλοτάρουν τόσο καλά
@@nightraven_81 κανένα δεν πήγε στο δρόμο πειραν διαταγή να ρίξουν τα όπλα στη θάλασσα και να γυρίσουν πίσω
@@Γιάννης7890 Γιατι πειραν διαταγη να γυρίσουν πίσω?
@@andreas2291 γτ υπυρχε ένα αμερικανικό και ένα αγγλικό αεροπλανοφόρο
@@andreas2291 και αν πηγαιναν θα τα αναχαιτηζαν
Just goes to show ya a brick will fly if you put enough engine on it. 😁
Που βόσκανε ο υπόλογος και ο βοηθός του στην αρχή; Να βγάζει ο χειριστής μόνος του ασφάλειες και καπάκια!!! Ε ρε και να τύχαινε καμία τέτοια φάση σε μας ακόμα θα υπηρετούσαμε... χαχαχαχα
και πιος να τα βγάλει;;;ο φαντάρος που έχει θητεία 8 μήνες και δεν ξέρει την τύφλα του;;πιος πιλότος θα τον εμπιστευτεί
;;;
1) Δεν υπάρχει περίπτωση να υπάρχει αεροσκάφος έτοιμο για πτήση και οι υπολογοι να τα ξύνουν!! Μηπως τους είχαν χωσει και κάπου αλλού;; σπάνιο βλέπεις για την Π.Α αυτο... Και
2) ο ιπτάμενος αν ζοριζοταν να βγάλει μερικά RBF κατά την επιθεώρηση του αεροσκάφους και το καπάκι προστασίας του κινητήρα από τους αεραγωγούς, ας μην το έκανε! Ήταν πολύ άσχημη η συμπεριφορά του να τα πετάει κάτω με τέτοιον τρόπο, λες και οι υπολογοι είναι τα δουλακια του που θα πρέπει να τα μάζεψουν μετά από εκεί που τα σκόρπισε. Ευτυχώς που οι περισσότεροι ιπτάμενοι δεν μας έχουν συνηθίσει με τέτοιες συμπεριφορές.
@@Stelaras79 Το 1983 στην 337 αυτά που γράφεις δεν τα σκεφτόσουνα καν. Την μόνη ασφάλεια που έβγαζαν οι πιλότοι ήταν στο αλεξίπτωτο ουράς.Οι ασφάλειες των όπλων βγαίναν τελευταίες στο δάπεδο μπροστά από τον διάδρομο απογείωσης . Η 338 και 339 δεν έκαναν αναχαιτίσεις τότε και τα αεροπλάνα τους είχαν βαφή παραλλαγής εδάφους επιπλέον οι κινητήρες τους αφήναν μαύρο καπνό πίσω τους (καρβουνιάρηδες τους λέγανε).
@@kxptr υπήρχαν και κινητήρες J79 non smoke έκδοση , οπου δεν εβγαζαν το ντουμανι το οποιο γινοταν διακριτό απο 25 μιλια αποσταση. J79 φορουσαν επισης και τα f-104 αστρομαχητες.
@@Stelaras79 Σωστά, τότε μόνο η 337 (ΜΑΠΚ η ΜΠΚ) και τα RF είχαν non smoke κινητήρες. Στο βίντεο πάντως είναι πολύ χαλαροί. Το έκανα αυτό σχεδόν ένα χρόνο, όταν το αεροπλάνο πετούσε, ο προϊστάμενος σε έβαζε να κόβεις τα χόρτα γύρω από το δάπεδο και στα αναχώματα.
Decommissioned, maybe?
Not soon!!
Love to see A F4 GO AGAINST A. CHINAS J22. THIS WOULD SCARE THEM TO{}©Θฯฯฯ@@❤🥇😍🥇
Skip to 18:15 when they finally skip the useless BS and finally take off....
Could've made this video about 18 minutes shorter...
You may skip the 18 min and go to the take off.
@@gvlacom I already did due to the helpful advice from another viewer. Cheers
@@Spacegoat92 you are clearly not worthy...
XA XA,,,,,ERXAITE XREOKOPIA,,,,,
George Kafantaris τα έχεις πιει τα κρασά σου ε?
Why does the Greek Air Force operate them still?? They’re so old ..
Why not? Old but upgraded back in 2000.
😂I serviced f4s from Vietnam to Germany rf4c. Mostly then f4 stateside Mt home afb no other sound like a f4😊😊