Wild seeing my old mdl team in this at 2:21, was so rough finally making it to premier just to watch all the orgs pull out cause of covid, pretty much killed the cs dream. They should really make a small salary for mdl+ players if they want to actually increase the competition even like 2-300 a player / month would have been amazing back then
Flashpoint was envisioned to be the NA counterpart of EPL. Thorin, the creative director, had several new ideas, he created a format where the top ranked team chose their group opponents, intended to create rivalry and drama between the teams, and lots of skits with Freya, Anders, sgares and others. Unfortunately the inaugural tournament began as the pandemic started. The NA "fans" relished in the failure of Flashpoint, solely because of their dislike of Thorin, this discouraged the organisations of Flashpoint, and by that the "fans" had killed the last hope of NA CS
I've seen Lake play in your video about the longest ever match in cs2/go the m80 against fnatic. And as a diehard stew fan(even tho I am not american), I have seen the similarities.. I am looking forward to seeing him in the big league in the future and for sure gonna support him!
Wait are you the Phy that makes Yu-Gi-Oh content? I recognize your voice Edit: 13 seconds into the video, you are that Phy! Excited to see your CS2 content considering how high quality your Yu-Gi-Oh analysis videos were.
Wow great production for your current audience, you will grow quickly if you keep it up! Defintely could benefit from rereading your script a couple more times and focusing on anunciation in spots. Loved hearing what you had to say though. Good vid!
I've always liked JBa, been a fun player to watch for the past year or so. I remember grinding NA DM at the end of GO and for like a month straight, JBa was there almost every day with 200 kills before I joined the server.
The level of play in FPL dropped off a cliff in NA 2-3 years ago. Players like xotic, clasia and even jeorge, who are so incredibly skilled, were basically trolling with negevs successfully enough to ward off serious players. Liquid, coL, NRG... barely even played, but even players like swisher, reck, junior, and so many more... who could have actually helped the lesser FPL players improve, just gave up. That actually gate-kept the shit outta FPL. Would I rather play against salaried players in FPL or a lan-dodger, who might be cheating, but is definitely just going to run it down with a negev? Now with FPL and cash cups being completely dead, it makes it that much harder for up and coming players to support themselves while improving.
Great video man just found you and subscribed as a huge NA cs fan, out of the two of these players who do you think will make it to one of Liquid or Complexity first, I could personally see Lake going to Liquid if Yekindar continues to underperform throughout the rest of the year especially with lake’s ability to make calls
When every NA kid wants to be an influencer or variety streamer, GL finding future cs goats. Coming from an European who misses prime liquid with stew, nitr0, twistz, naf, Elige 😞. American mentality changed.
There’s a lot of Tier2 teams, NA coL Revival Cup , ESL Challenger Atlanta, Pro League, NA RMR and coL M80 what’s lacking is kids that won’t piss the bed when facing international competition on LAN and want to win at a game that’s 5v5 Teamplay Chemistry Cohesion. Remember Kids. Desire Discipline Dedication
People are missing the point. NA cs is dead because no one in the scene cares enough to make it great and farm up the younger players. With impressive players on the come up there’s a greater chance for people to start taking us seriously again. People like Flom, Nothing, Shroud, and more have the potential to turn into the new NA managers who create the next best NA teams. I love the video brother ignore clueless idiots stuck in 2018.
You are delusional to think that ex-pro/streamer would want to be managers while being a streamer make 10x more and less work. NACS isn't dead because no one cares, it's because there isn't any money coming to NA. The pro scene is a business, if there is no events/money pooling into the region players will find other games where they can make money. Valve didn't have any competition prior to valorant and covid made CS more focused in EU.
@@brok3worth512 it’s not delusional it’s the natural development cycle within CS. Pro players eventually become coaches, move on to management. Just like any other job or sport. Nothing has talked to great lengths about the lack of farming talent within NA I suggest the watch. Also, COVID increased player counts all over the world not just EU. CS in NA has just as much capability for success as EU, we lack infrastructure that supports local lans, we don’t talk about it, and not enough pro players want to better the NA community.
@@jeffeyjeffey8 he runs mythic league and is one of the biggest voices in NA cs. Just because he hasn’t won anything doesn’t mean he doesn’t have impact on the scene. Read a room
Theres a funny thing about Lake, when m80 faced Imperial and mibr at Pro League, the BR commentator, mch from the "Gaules Tribo" was instantly sold for Lake skills, mecanically he recognized he could be a potential star for m80 lineup and calling him the "Chad" guy who mocks the nerd guys from the other team. lol but im looking forward to those guys you mentioned, COL and Liquid are doing good, but they still inconsistent and most matchups and pls m80, bring back the old logo!
CS scene in general looks too bland compared to valorant's tier 1 scene . while valorant has great orgs and players from all regions CS just has a few powerhouses all in EU and Russia . This does'nt make for a great viewing experience . NA CS is just LIQUID RN and ASIAN CS is MONGOLZ , compare that to valorant where every region has a few great teams .
Yeah sadly with the way Valve runs/doesnt run things smaller regions will just never get noticed unless a huge Mongolz miracle happens. A few talented Korean players actually came from CS, Stax,RB,xeta, but these players never really had a chance to qualify to international tournaments. Thats the better thing about Valorant, the regions are really supported even tho they may be smaller then others like EU . Hopefully this changes with the Chinese Shanghai major. Tho valorant has the added benefit of huge new age orgs in GM and Kcorp, stable legacy korean orgs in GenG,T1,DRX and a booming Japanese region.
Saying Liquid is the only team from NA having motion is crazy too, when Complexity has been better for quite some time. Not to mention M80 (also a top 30 team) who was clearing the past iteration of Liquid with ease. EliGE, Twistzz, Naf, and maybe even Malbsmd are all likely top 20 players. The problem is CS is too Eurocentric. They need to set up a system to let the tier 2 teams from smaller regions develop. Ex. CN: Tyloo, Lynn Vision, Rare Atom, Cat Evil. | SA: Fluxo, KRÜ, inSanity, W7M, Red Canids. | AS: Chinggis Warriors, JijieHao, Atox, Alter Ego, True Rippers. | NA: Wild Card, NRG, Nouns, Elevate, Party Astronauts, BOSS, LAG
@@jah9125 but RN apart from liquid I don't think any NA team is capable of lifting a tournament. M80 are great but not title contenders. Also earlier brazilian CS was booming with luminosity winning major but RN even Brazil is bad . And yeah RN apart from EU and Russia no other region has a title contender .
@@bigdave9188 True but after a while it does get a tiny bit boring, Oh i wonder who of the established top 5 is going to win this tournament? Its either between Faze,G2,Mouz,Navi,Spirit.
I think your videos are good but a little too sarcastic and “snotty” sometimes. I think a bit more of a professional attitude would be nice. My gf and I watch a ton of cs content and i think it just feels a lil cringy. Kliksphilip has a great template for seriousness with occasional silliness. I also think you should use a wider lense. You feel extremely close to the camera, especially in the nip video.
Im saving the NA cs scene just wait
im counting on you samberry1299🔥
I'll remember this (watch out for the next decade)
in valorant maybe
Not going to lie, if your channel gets bigger, you can use this as a platform to bring young NA players to bigger orgs.
Wild seeing my old mdl team in this at 2:21, was so rough finally making it to premier just to watch all the orgs pull out cause of covid, pretty much killed the cs dream. They should really make a small salary for mdl+ players if they want to actually increase the competition even like 2-300 a player / month would have been amazing back then
NA CS isn't dead but it'll never be what it was.
it was a Cinderella run na was still shit
@@gtg8828NA was pretty competitive with EU for most of 2018 and 2019. Liquid was #1 for like 4 months
@@aa4a-a4happens to be the 4 months where astralis barely played… but I guess it’s true
@@lemowel7489 exactly
@lemowel7489 astralis was present at EPL and Cologne, they just went out before playing liquid. They also lost ESL1 NY to EG the same year
Flashpoint was envisioned to be the NA counterpart of EPL. Thorin, the creative director, had several new ideas, he created a format where the top ranked team chose their group opponents, intended to create rivalry and drama between the teams, and lots of skits with Freya, Anders, sgares and others.
Unfortunately the inaugural tournament began as the pandemic started. The NA "fans" relished in the failure of Flashpoint, solely because of their dislike of Thorin, this discouraged the organisations of Flashpoint, and by that the "fans" had killed the last hope of NA CS
CS fans and constantly self sabotaging. Name a better duo
2:15 was the biggest backstab by ESL
Great video. As someone coming back into the scene from long ago it's nice to know who to look for
I've seen Lake play in your video about the longest ever match in cs2/go the m80 against fnatic. And as a diehard stew fan(even tho I am not american), I have seen the similarities.. I am looking forward to seeing him in the big league in the future and for sure gonna support him!
Wait are you the Phy that makes Yu-Gi-Oh content? I recognize your voice
Edit: 13 seconds into the video, you are that Phy! Excited to see your CS2 content considering how high quality your Yu-Gi-Oh analysis videos were.
Wow great production for your current audience, you will grow quickly if you keep it up! Defintely could benefit from rereading your script a couple more times and focusing on anunciation in spots. Loved hearing what you had to say though. Good vid!
I've always liked JBa, been a fun player to watch for the past year or so. I remember grinding NA DM at the end of GO and for like a month straight, JBa was there almost every day with 200 kills before I joined the server.
Your content is fucking fire man. NA CS will rise again
The level of play in FPL dropped off a cliff in NA 2-3 years ago. Players like xotic, clasia and even jeorge, who are so incredibly skilled, were basically trolling with negevs successfully enough to ward off serious players. Liquid, coL, NRG... barely even played, but even players like swisher, reck, junior, and so many more... who could have actually helped the lesser FPL players improve, just gave up.
That actually gate-kept the shit outta FPL. Would I rather play against salaried players in FPL or a lan-dodger, who might be cheating, but is definitely just going to run it down with a negev? Now with FPL and cash cups being completely dead, it makes it that much harder for up and coming players to support themselves while improving.
Song at 2:30 is head first - home
that grizz guy is just different!
he was fried in the interview lmao
fun story telling video man
Great video man just found you and subscribed as a huge NA cs fan, out of the two of these players who do you think will make it to one of Liquid or Complexity first, I could personally see Lake going to Liquid if Yekindar continues to underperform throughout the rest of the year especially with lake’s ability to make calls
Absolutely. I think JBa has some maturing to do as a person, but he's a silent killer. Lake underneath a Tier 1 banner has so much to give!
When every NA kid wants to be an influencer or variety streamer, GL finding future cs goats. Coming from an European who misses prime liquid with stew, nitr0, twistz, naf, Elige 😞. American mentality changed.
nice video brotha
There’s a lot of Tier2 teams, NA coL Revival Cup , ESL Challenger Atlanta, Pro League, NA RMR and coL M80 what’s lacking is kids that won’t piss the bed when facing international competition on LAN and want to win at a game that’s 5v5 Teamplay Chemistry Cohesion.
Remember Kids. Desire Discipline Dedication
gimme 8 months to get out of silver elite and i'll carry the NA cs scene trust
Slump is going to be very good
Lake will save NA CS
Mongolz will make Asian CS alive for the first time since 1.6
mouz again
You cannot make a pro video without mouz in it.
So who's jersey should I buy before the next major? Also great vid!
what's the song at 10:38
I believe hes confirmed the name is Jay-Bee-Ayy not Jay-Buh
Also damn, poor pwnalone lol
mark my words: ogwizard
I'm hopeful with fresh talent coming in, as well as ironically old taletn coming back with Steel rejoining NACS in the next calender year ironically
STEEL CAN ALMOST RUN FOR PRESIDENT AHHH HELL NAHH HE AINT COMING BACK
@@PhyFPS I'd vote for him
People are missing the point. NA cs is dead because no one in the scene cares enough to make it great and farm up the younger players. With impressive players on the come up there’s a greater chance for people to start taking us seriously again. People like Flom, Nothing, Shroud, and more have the potential to turn into the new NA managers who create the next best NA teams. I love the video brother ignore clueless idiots stuck in 2018.
You are delusional to think that ex-pro/streamer would want to be managers while being a streamer make 10x more and less work. NACS isn't dead because no one cares, it's because there isn't any money coming to NA. The pro scene is a business, if there is no events/money pooling into the region players will find other games where they can make money. Valve didn't have any competition prior to valorant and covid made CS more focused in EU.
@@brok3worth512 it’s not delusional it’s the natural development cycle within CS. Pro players eventually become coaches, move on to management. Just like any other job or sport. Nothing has talked to great lengths about the lack of farming talent within NA I suggest the watch. Also, COVID increased player counts all over the world not just EU. CS in NA has just as much capability for success as EU, we lack infrastructure that supports local lans, we don’t talk about it, and not enough pro players want to better the NA community.
flom? flom has literally done nothing in cs lol
@@jeffeyjeffey8 he runs mythic league and is one of the biggest voices in NA cs. Just because he hasn’t won anything doesn’t mean he doesn’t have impact on the scene. Read a room
@@nassolious one of the biggest egos for sure, that doesn't mean he can recognize talent and manage others
I almost feel bad now for laughing at wildcard for getting omegaluld by legacy pretty recently
I feel bad for na CS, it never got as big as SA and EU
Why did u put a valorant map in the thumbnail 😭😭
Swapping that thang out
Junior has been given opportunities.. right?😊
oBo could've been him 😢
rvng nation bait i thought he was about to say nightblade 😭😭😭😭😭😭
MY B I COULDN'T FIND A PIC AND HLTV UPDATED IT UGHHHHH
Theres a funny thing about Lake, when m80 faced Imperial and mibr at Pro League, the BR commentator, mch from the "Gaules Tribo" was instantly sold for Lake skills, mecanically he recognized he could be a potential star for m80 lineup and calling him the "Chad" guy who mocks the nerd guys from the other team. lol
but im looking forward to those guys you mentioned, COL and Liquid are doing good, but they still inconsistent and most matchups
and pls m80, bring back the old logo!
commenting for algorithm
#savingNAcs
dont forget slump #1 na awp prodigy
jBuh
Good vid but a bit delusional calling it greatly exxagerated because it is dead compared to what it was
Well the whole point is that these players could serve as the next generation of superstars from the region, but fair enough I suppose
CS scene in general looks too bland compared to valorant's tier 1 scene . while valorant has great orgs and players from all regions CS just has a few powerhouses all in EU and Russia . This does'nt make for a great viewing experience . NA CS is just LIQUID RN and ASIAN CS is MONGOLZ , compare that to valorant where every region has a few great teams .
Yeah sadly with the way Valve runs/doesnt run things smaller regions will just never get noticed unless a huge Mongolz miracle happens. A few talented Korean players actually came from CS, Stax,RB,xeta, but these players never really had a chance to qualify to international tournaments. Thats the better thing about Valorant, the regions are really supported even tho they may be smaller then others like EU . Hopefully this changes with the Chinese Shanghai major. Tho valorant has the added benefit of huge new age orgs in GM and Kcorp, stable legacy korean orgs in GenG,T1,DRX and a booming Japanese region.
Saying Liquid is the only team from NA having motion is crazy too, when Complexity has been better for quite some time. Not to mention M80 (also a top 30 team) who was clearing the past iteration of Liquid with ease. EliGE, Twistzz, Naf, and maybe even Malbsmd are all likely top 20 players. The problem is CS is too Eurocentric. They need to set up a system to let the tier 2 teams from smaller regions develop. Ex. CN: Tyloo, Lynn Vision, Rare Atom, Cat Evil. | SA: Fluxo, KRÜ, inSanity, W7M, Red Canids. | AS: Chinggis Warriors, JijieHao, Atox, Alter Ego, True Rippers. | NA: Wild Card, NRG, Nouns, Elevate, Party Astronauts, BOSS, LAG
@@jah9125 but RN apart from liquid I don't think any NA team is capable of lifting a tournament. M80 are great but not title contenders. Also earlier brazilian CS was booming with luminosity winning major but RN even Brazil is bad . And yeah RN apart from EU and Russia no other region has a title contender .
Can't complain as a european
@@bigdave9188 True but after a while it does get a tiny bit boring, Oh i wonder who of the established top 5 is going to win this tournament? Its either between Faze,G2,Mouz,Navi,Spirit.
LOL “prodigies” with .9 ratings in csgo. Calm down. These players were always irrelevant in cs.
I think your videos are good but a little too sarcastic and “snotty” sometimes. I think a bit more of a professional attitude would be nice. My gf and I watch a ton of cs content and i think it just feels a lil cringy. Kliksphilip has a great template for seriousness with occasional silliness. I also think you should use a wider lense. You feel extremely close to the camera, especially in the nip video.
Cs players always talking about valorant LMAO rent free